<< <i>Still waiting to get these sets from the mint... Ordered on 6/14/2010. Does anyone know the time frame (days) for these to show up in the mail box ??? >>
I ordered mine on 6/15....received them today 6/19............
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
<< <i>Still waiting to get these sets from the mint... Ordered on 6/14/2010. Does anyone know the time frame (days) for these to show up in the mail box ??? >>
I ordered mine on 6/15....received them today 6/19............ >>
meanwhile, the sets I ordered on the 14th have not shipped yet.
OK - why do you suppose the Mint didn't just continue selling these sets until they were gone? With all the packaging in place and the selling venue in place, what is there to lose? (except $$) Are they required to stop selling one year before selling the next?
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
OK - why do you suppose the Mint didn't just continue selling these sets until they were gone? With all the packaging in place and the selling venue in place, what is there to lose? (except $$) Are they required to stop selling one year before selling the next? >>
Why do you think they aren't all gone? They said they would sell none AFTER 6/15 but they stopped "early" on 6/15........makes me believe they ran out of supply. Am I missing something that said they still had some left?
<< <i>Still waiting to get these sets from the mint... Ordered on 6/14/2010. Does anyone know the time frame (days) for these to show up in the mail box ??? >>
Previously stated:
I ordered mine on the 15th and they were shipped on the 16th
"Order Date: 06/15/2010 at 04:07 PM
Order Status: Your order request has been shipped. "
OK - why do you suppose the Mint didn't just continue selling these sets until they were gone? With all the packaging in place and the selling venue in place, what is there to lose? (except $$) Are they required to stop selling one year before selling the next? >>
Why do you think they aren't all gone? They said they would sell none AFTER 6/15 but they stopped "early" on 6/15........makes me believe they ran out of supply. Am I missing something that said they still had some left? >>
The "Last Chance" date of 6/15 for the 2009 sets with Lincoln cents was arbitrary, set well in advance. There is no way that multiple mint sets (proof, unc) would "sellout" all at the same time, much less promptly at (about) 5pm. Many mint products may only be sold with one issue or year at a time and are dropped as the subsequent issue rolls out. I suspect this is the case here with the 2009 Lincoln cents.
Whatever the reason, it's good for the collectors, but wasteful for the Mint. [one could say by keeping the mintage low this way that it overall stimulates more collector interest, and keeps us coming back...]
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
2009 mint sets still on the cheap on ebay, same with the 8 2006 Lincoln cent "cut out sets". These may be slow to rise in price at first in the aftermarket.
<< <i>2009 mint sets still on the cheap on ebay, same with the 8 2006 Lincoln cent "cut out sets". These may be slow to rise in price at first in the aftermarket. >>
I think they will be slow to rise, but, they will rise when people find out there is only one place to get them if they want them.
<< <i>It will really help the aftermarket prices of these 2009 mint set cents after the major TPGS's recognize them.....which they will at some point. >>
I spoke with NGC's variety expert at the Balto. show. He said that the pennies from the Unc. set will be slabbed: "Special Mint Set Bronze" in recognition of their unique composition - sweeeeeeeeet. I should have asked PCGS as well as they were right there, but didn't feel like waiting in line again.
(Sorry if this is covered later, answered prior to reading the rest of the thread.)
<< <i>Still waiting to get these sets from the mint... Ordered on 6/14/2010. Does anyone know the time frame (days) for these to show up in the mail box ??? >>
I received some Fri, some today and am expecting more, hopefully tomorrow. All were ordered the last day of sale of the day prior.
My extra 3 sets arrived today. I had 2 sets on hand which were ordered earlier in the year but ordered 3 more after reading the threads on this forum about the low mintage copper cents. Once again, reading the PCGS forum has effected my collecting habits for the better. HM
pr70collector.....The PCGS label on coin you have linked reads "SP69RD" underneath that it reads "Satin Finish". Are all satin finish mint set coins labeled SP69 or are they labeled MS69?
The 1997-P Jefferson is a SP SMS. The 1998 SMS Kennedy is MS SMS. None of the previous year's Lincoln Satin Finish coins are SP. Only the 2009 are labled SP and they are not in the PCGS price guide.
Im sorry, what I stated before is incorrect. There are other dates with designations of " SP " on Lincoln Satin Finish Cents. There are SP slabs from 2005. What makes a coin a Specimen Strike ? ? ?
What I thought was a simple question I asked in this thread ended up being a confusing mess.
So, SP=Specimen .....SF= Satin Finish All denominations of the satin finish mint set coins are labeled specimen because of the satin finish. Also on the PCGS label is written out "Satin Finish". PCGS does not denote on the label that the 2009 mint set Lincoln cents are copper instead of zinc. I got it...I think.
What is a Specimen Slab ??. I have been looking over eBay and have found "SP" or "MS" on the same type of coin. The 1998 Matte Kennedy has 2 designations "SP" and "MS".
Maybe I should have started a new thread on Specimen Slabs. I would like to know what makes one a SP or a MS...Thank you....
<< <i>What is a Specimen Slab ??. I have been looking over eBay and have found "SP" or "MS" on the same type of coin. The 1998 Matte Kennedy has 2 designations "SP" and "MS".
Maybe I should have started a new thread on Specimen Slabs. I would like to know what makes one a SP or a MS...Thank you.... >>
perhaps some of it is how one writes up the order ????
The 2009 P&D Lincoln cents mint set sealed strips cut out from the mint sets seem to be drying up fast on ebay. Plenty of complete sets, but the cut out Lincoln cent sets are drying up fast.
2009-D 1¢ SF FY WDDR-003 Satin Finish - 2009-D 1¢ SF FY WDDR-014 Satin Finish. I found three of them (6,7,8) (Brian Maguire) and have a couple mint sets saved that have the doubled dies in the OGP.
If you scroll down to the bottom of that link you will see the photos of these.
Numis News Mint Stat's update today revealed -- NOTHING NEW.
All the 2009 set stats are the same from last week (see below). HUH????
These typically are updated by the Mint on Sunday, so someone is asleep at the wheel. Stand by...perhaps the competition will do better soon....
<< <i>Not-so-Final Figures
EDITED: The collector coin sales figures below have an "as of date" of June 13, 2010, although it posted today 6/17. Therefore, they will likely change a bit more during the last day spike.
----Item---------------------------------------------Last Wk ==Today ==Chg ==% Chg 2009 United States Mint Uncirculated Set---------771,204 ==774,844 +3,640 +0.47% 2009 United States Mint Proof Set---------------1,475,264 ==1,477,967 +2,703 +0.18% 2009 U.S. Mint Silver Proof Set--------------------690,822 ==694,406 +3,584 +0.52%
2009 Professional Life Rolls---------------------- 291,534 ==294,083 +2,549 +0.87% 2009 Presidency Rolls-----------------------------259,941 ==264,700 +4,759 +1.83
We'll see where they land in the final few more days.
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
SP means satin finish, nothing more. So I wouldn't get my hopes up that there is anything extra special about these, other than the fact that they are 95% copper and have the satin finish (only found in Mint sets). Winners in my book, but the SP on the label simply notes they are satin finish.
<< <i>SP means satin finish, nothing more. So I wouldn't get my hopes up that there is anything extra special about these, other than the fact that they are 95% copper and have the satin finish (only found in Mint sets). Winners in my book, but the SP on the label simply notes they are satin finish. >>
I think that metallic composition is a much more fundamental characteristic of a coin than its finish.
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<< <i>The bronze coins came in the P09 sets? >>
U09
<< <i>Still waiting to get these sets from the mint... Ordered on 6/14/2010. Does anyone know the time frame (days) for these to show up in the mail box ??? >>
I ordered mine on 6/15....received them today 6/19............
<< <i>
<< <i>Still waiting to get these sets from the mint... Ordered on 6/14/2010. Does anyone know the time frame (days) for these to show up in the mail box ??? >>
I ordered mine on 6/15....received them today 6/19............ >>
meanwhile, the sets I ordered on the 14th have not shipped yet.
OK - why do you suppose the Mint didn't just continue selling these sets until they were gone? With all the packaging in place and the selling venue in place, what is there to lose? (except $$) Are they required to stop selling one year before selling the next?
<< <i>My order on 6/15 has not shipped either --
OK - why do you suppose the Mint didn't just continue selling these sets until they were gone? With all the packaging in place and the selling venue in place, what is there to lose? (except $$) Are they required to stop selling one year before selling the next? >>
Why do you think they aren't all gone?
They said they would sell none AFTER 6/15 but they stopped "early" on 6/15........makes me believe they ran out of supply. Am I missing something that said they still had some left?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>Still waiting to get these sets from the mint... Ordered on 6/14/2010. Does anyone know the time frame (days) for these to show up in the mail box ??? >>
Previously stated:
I ordered mine on the 15th and they were shipped on the 16th
"Order Date: 06/15/2010 at 04:07 PM
Order Status: Your order request has been shipped. "
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<< <i>My order on 6/15 has not shipped either --
OK - why do you suppose the Mint didn't just continue selling these sets until they were gone? With all the packaging in place and the selling venue in place, what is there to lose? (except $$) Are they required to stop selling one year before selling the next? >>
Why do you think they aren't all gone?
They said they would sell none AFTER 6/15 but they stopped "early" on 6/15........makes me believe they ran out of supply. Am I missing something that said they still had some left? >>
The "Last Chance" date of 6/15 for the 2009 sets with Lincoln cents was arbitrary, set well in advance. There is no way that multiple mint sets (proof, unc) would "sellout" all at the same time, much less promptly at (about) 5pm. Many mint products may only be sold with one issue or year at a time and are dropped as the subsequent issue rolls out. I suspect this is the case here with the 2009 Lincoln cents.
Whatever the reason, it's good for the collectors, but wasteful for the Mint. [one could say by keeping the mintage low this way that it overall stimulates more collector interest, and keeps us coming back...]
<< <i>2009 mint sets still on the cheap on ebay, same with the 8 2006 Lincoln cent "cut out sets". These may be slow to rise in price at first in the aftermarket. >>
I think they will be slow to rise, but, they will rise when people find out there is only one place to get them if they want them.
Box of 20
<< <i>It will really help the aftermarket prices of these 2009 mint set cents after the major TPGS's recognize them.....which they will at some point. >>
I spoke with NGC's variety expert at the Balto. show. He said that the pennies from the Unc. set will be slabbed: "Special Mint Set Bronze" in recognition of their unique composition - sweeeeeeeeet. I should have asked PCGS as well as they were right there, but didn't feel like waiting in line again.
(Sorry if this is covered later, answered prior to reading the rest of the thread.)
<< <i>Still waiting to get these sets from the mint... Ordered on 6/14/2010. Does anyone know the time frame (days) for these to show up in the mail box ??? >>
I received some Fri, some today and am expecting more, hopefully tomorrow. All were ordered the last day of sale of the day prior.
2009 Lincoln Satin
Box of 20
<< <i>Does anyone know the time frame (days) for these to show up in the mail box ??? >>
It generally takes 7 days from date of mailing to delivery on the west coast.
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
<< <i>PCGS Is labeling these as Satin Finish >>
pr70collector.....The PCGS label on coin you have linked reads "SP69RD" underneath that it reads "Satin Finish". Are all satin finish mint set coins labeled SP69 or are they labeled MS69?
<< <i>the unc. set coins should be all SP** coins unless they made a "mechanical error." >>
Ok I looked it up on the PCGS website:
SF=Satin Finish
SP= Specimen
So "SP" has nothing to do with the satin finish, it means Specimen.
2009 SP69FB on a dime? I didn't know they had specimens for the dime..
Mislabled?
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<< <i>the unc. set coins should be all SP** coins unless they made a "mechanical error." >>
Ok I looked it up on the PCGS website:
SF=Satin Finish
SP= Specimen
So "SP" has nothing to do with the satin finish, it means Specimen. >>
it does in that the satin finish coins are not the same as MS nor PR.... so they get the SP.
and as far as the mint's web site says, all the coins in the set are Satin Finish... so I'm saying they'll all get the SP** tag. (thus the dime above)
That's a waste of label space.imvho
<< <i>SP and Satin Finish mean the same thing????
That's a waste of label space.imvho >>
I don't know if they'd go so far as to say they mean the same thing.... but the labelling is a result of the fact the coin is ~"satin finish"~
here is another specimen coin
<< <i>None of the previous year's Lincoln Satin Finish coins are SP. Only the 2009 are labled SP and they are not in the PCGS price guide. >>
<< <i>None of the previous year's Lincoln Satin Finish coins are SP. Only the 2009 are labled SP and they are not in the PCGS price guide. >>
ok, now I'm
So, SP=Specimen
.....SF= Satin Finish
All denominations of the satin finish mint set coins are labeled specimen because of the satin finish. Also on the PCGS label is written out "Satin Finish".
PCGS does not denote on the label that the 2009 mint set Lincoln cents are copper instead of zinc. I got it...I think.
I don't know how they are labeled by PCGS at this point but I have a bunch of them just in case they are valuable.
<< <i>I don't know how they are labeled by PCGS at this point but I have a bunch of them just in case they are valuable. >>
Sounds like a plan
1. They have the same design but a different metallic composition, compared to the regular circulation strikes.
2. They have a mintage of around 800,000 for each coin.
3. They have the lowest mintage for their type.
4. They were released only in collector sets.
5. They have common obverses and multiple themed reverses.
6. They are part of very popular series (State Quarters, Lincoln Cents).
7. They have multiple sources of demand (proof/mint set collectors, type collectors, series collectors).
One big difference: 1999 silver proof State Quarters fetch $30 to $40 each, 2009 bronze Mint Set Lincolns fetch about $2 each.
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<< <i>The 2009 uncirculated bronze cents have a lot in common with the 1999 silver proof state quarters:
1. They have the same design but a different metallic composition, compared to the regular circulation strikes.
2. They have a mintage of around 800,000 for each coin.
3. They have the lowest mintage for their type.
4. They were released only in collector sets.
5. They have common obverses and multiple themed reverses.
6. They are part of very popular series (State Quarters, Lincoln Cents).
7. They have multiple sources of demand (proof/mint set collectors, type collectors, series collectors).
One big difference: 1999 silver proof State Quarters fetch $30 to $40 each, 2009 bronze Mint Set Lincolns fetch about $2 each. >>
This is true right now but if you remember the silver 1999 quarters did not sell for $30 each in 1999 either.
Maybe I should have started a new thread on Specimen Slabs. I would like to know what makes one a SP or a MS...Thank you....
<< <i>What is a Specimen Slab ??. I have been looking over eBay and have found "SP" or "MS" on the same type of coin. The 1998 Matte Kennedy has 2 designations "SP" and "MS".
Maybe I should have started a new thread on Specimen Slabs. I would like to know what makes one a SP or a MS...Thank you....
perhaps some of it is how one writes up the order ????
There were not that many of them to begin with. The price will start to go up on these.
My 3 sets arrived today along with the 7 sets of cents that I bought on e bay. I am going to keep my 3 sets unopened also for the present time.
<< <i>there are also a number of doubled dies with the copper cents found in the mint sets. http://doubleddie.com/60701.html >>
linked
Which double dies were in the mint sets?
<< <i>Which double dies were in the mint sets? >>
2009-D 1¢ SF FY WDDR-003 Satin Finish - 2009-D 1¢ SF FY WDDR-014 Satin Finish. I found three of them (6,7,8) (Brian Maguire) and have a couple mint sets saved that have the doubled dies in the OGP.
If you scroll down to the bottom of that link you will see the photos of these.
Thank you. I will look for them. I do have a couple of the PR69's 001's graded by ANACS which are neat.
All the 2009 set stats are the same from last week (see below). HUH????
These typically are updated by the Mint on Sunday, so someone is asleep at the wheel. Stand by...perhaps the competition will do better soon....
<< <i>Not-so-Final Figures
EDITED: The collector coin sales figures below have an "as of date" of June 13, 2010, although it posted today 6/17. Therefore, they will likely change a bit more during the last day spike.
----Item---------------------------------------------Last Wk ==Today ==Chg ==% Chg
2009 United States Mint Uncirculated Set---------771,204 ==774,844 +3,640 +0.47%
2009 United States Mint Proof Set---------------1,475,264 ==1,477,967 +2,703 +0.18%
2009 U.S. Mint Silver Proof Set--------------------690,822 ==694,406 +3,584 +0.52%
2009 Professional Life Rolls---------------------- 291,534 ==294,083 +2,549 +0.87%
2009 Presidency Rolls-----------------------------259,941 ==264,700 +4,759 +1.83
We'll see where they land in the final few more days.
Source: CoinNews.net >>
<< <i>SP means satin finish, nothing more. So I wouldn't get my hopes up that there is anything extra special about these, other than the fact that they are 95% copper and have the satin finish (only found in Mint sets). Winners in my book, but the SP on the label simply notes they are satin finish. >>
I think that metallic composition is a much more fundamental characteristic of a coin than its finish.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
