i went to buy some from the mint yesterday but they were "sold out". i bought 3 sets on ebay for $30 each shipped, so issue cost. told my brother to buy a couple sets and forget about them.
<< <i>i went to buy some from the mint yesterday but they were "sold out". i bought 3 sets on ebay for $30 each shipped, so issue cost. told my brother to buy a couple sets and forget about them. >>
Sometimes eBay transactions puzzle me. $30 shipped had to be a loser after fees and shipping costs. I guess they made it up by selling in volume. Nice save on your part though.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
<< <i>i went to buy some from the mint yesterday but they were "sold out". i bought 3 sets on ebay for $30 each shipped, so issue cost. told my brother to buy a couple sets and forget about them. >>
There is a dutch ebay auction( no connection to me or anyone I know) right now for 50 2009 mint sets at $33 per set. The shipping is $4.50 pre set though.
<< <i>There is a dutch ebay auction( no connection to me or anyone I know) right now for 50 2009 mint sets at $33 per set. The shipping is $4.50 pre set though. >>
I believe the 2009 District of Columbia & U.S. Territories Quarters Silver Proof Set will be a future winner too. These quarters are pretty low in clad, let alone in silver. Not to mention the price in comparison for 6 silver quarters is 3 bucks cheaper than the 5 coin 2010 set (approx $19.80 in silver vs. $16.50). The Mints premiums are getting more and more ridiculous.
<< <i>I picked up a few more today due to this thread. Not much downside with the face value involved but I'd bet the last minute feeding frenzy pushed sales up considerably. >>
I'll be surprised if the final sales number is over 800,000. The set was a bargain at $28, but storage and transportation issues may have limited the number of people willing to "load the boat" before the cutoff date.
EDITED: The collector coin sales figures below have an "as of date" of June 13, 2010, although it posted today 6/17. Therefore, they will likely change a bit more during the last day spike.
----Item---------------------------------------------Last Wk ==Today ==Chg ==% Chg 2009 United States Mint Uncirculated Set---------771,204 ==774,844 +3,640 +0.47% 2009 United States Mint Proof Set---------------1,475,264 ==1,477,967 +2,703 +0.18% 2009 U.S. Mint Silver Proof Set--------------------690,822 ==694,406 +3,584 +0.52%
2009 Professional Life Rolls---------------------- 291,534 ==294,083 +2,549 +0.87% 2009 Presidency Rolls-----------------------------259,941 ==264,700 +4,759 +1.83
We'll see where they land in the final few more days.
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I think that most people are still in the dark with regards to these mintset pennies. This is the only way to get these coins in the 95% copper composition from Philly and Denver. They can be differentiated from their ZINC counterparts not only by the Satin Finish, but also by their weight as these will be slightly heavier than the normal business strike (need a scale to measure the difference). With each of these having a mintage under 1 million they should be winners just like the 1996-W dime and there are 8 keys in this set (4 Denver and 4 Philly).
I just looked up the populations on the solid copper (bronze) coins and it looks like PCGS is not recognizing them yet with a coin number. Is this in the works because I think this distinction is more significant than "first day of issue" and that is recognized by PCGS.
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<< <i>I think that most people are still in the dark with regards to these mintset pennies. This is the only way to get these coins in the 95% copper composition from Philly and Denver. They can be differentiated from their ZINC counterparts not only by the Satin Finish, but also by their weight as these will be slightly heavier than the normal business strike (need a scale to measure the difference). With each of these having a mintage under 1 million they should be winners just like the 1996-W dime and there are 8 keys in this set (4 Denver and 4 Philly). >>
I thought the 95% copper Lincolns were only proof "S" coins. They're satin finish too?
<< <i>I thought the 95% copper Lincolns were only proof "S" coins. They're satin finish too? >>
Yes, all the satin finish Lincolns in the Mint Set are 95% copper, and the Mint Set is the only source for 2009 Philly and Denver bronze cents. I picked up a few more of the cents from the set on eBay - they're still reasonably priced in my opinion.
<< <i>It will really help the aftermarket prices of these 2009 mint set cents after the major TPGS's recognize them.....which they will at some point. >>
The TPG's already recognize them as "Satin Finish", so the question is whether they will also recognize them as a distinct (bronze) composition. They already have separate categories for the 1982 bronze and zinc cents, so they should treat the 2009 issues the same IMO.
<< <i>It will really help the aftermarket prices of these 2009 mint set cents after the major TPGS's recognize them.....which they will at some point. >>
The TPG's already recognize them as "Satin Finish", so the question is whether they will also recognize them as a distinct (bronze) composition. They already have separate categories for the 1982 bronze and zinc cents, so they should treat the 2009 issues the same IMO. >>
Wouldn't you say these are a unique coin being both bronze and satin finish? The other satin finish cents (2005-2008) are zinc and no other bronze cents are satin finish-making this a one of a kind coin type??? Am I correct that PCGS has not issued a coin number or did I just miss it?
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
someone on ebay cut the strips of pennies out of the sets and is selling them for $11 for all 8 pennies, still sealed in the mint packaging. i picked up 4 sets of these pennies. all i cared about was the pennies and these were a good price IMO. these will sit next to my 3 full mint sets.
<< <i>Do these have to be submitted to PCGS in the original mint packaging to get them slabbed as Satins? How else would they be able to distinguish them? >>
<< <i>It will really help the aftermarket prices of these 2009 mint set cents after the major TPGS's recognize them.....which they will at some point. >>
I don't think the TPG are going to be what drives demand. I believe it will be when all the album makers put two places for each in the albums, one for copper and one for zinc. That may cause some grass roots demand over time. In 5 years if everyone with a penny album needs them, watch out.
The point is NOT that they are satins, the point is they are the ONLY place you can get 95 percent copper, needed for all sets and also the four different coins will end up as type coins as well.
Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
<< <i>The point is NOT that they are satins, the point is they are the ONLY place you can get 95 percent copper, needed for all sets and also the four different coins will end up as type coins as well. >>
Again, since the satin finish and proof coins are the ONLY source of the 95% copper alloy coins, it stands to reason that every Satin Finish and Proof coin for 2009 is of this alloy. Absolutely no point in expressing the alloy content on the label since there are no other alloys available for the satin finish or proof coins. Coins with different alloys such as the 1982 Lincolns had different alloys for the same year necessitating specific identification of different "type" of coin.
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Absolutely no point in expressing the alloy content on the label since there are no other alloys available for the satin finish or proof coins. Coins with different alloys such as the 1982 Lincolns had different alloys for the same year necessitating specific identification of different "type" of coin. >>
That may be how the TPG see it but I hope not because it glosses over the unique feature of this coin which distinguishes it from other satin finish cents. I would think that the most unique feature of a coin should be the primary label modifier. Also, it seem that a dramatic change in the composition necessitates a new type coin. Suppose the Mint went to aluminum cents in a satin finish. You would not want to lump them together with the satin zinc cents.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
I'm sure there are still plenty 2009 pennies sitting in the Treasuries warehouse. And I estimate there are many more pennies than people who want them.
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I'm sure there are still plenty 2009 pennies sitting in the Treasuries warehouse. And I estimate there are many more pennies than people who want them.
Maybe........but they are the plated zinc cr%p...not 95% copper..
<< <i>I'm sure there are still plenty 2009 pennies sitting in the Treasuries warehouse. And I estimate there are many more pennies than people who want them.
Maybe........but they are the plated zinc cr%p...not 95% copper.. >>
absolutely... some collectors still don't get it or know the difference....
"Lincoln one-cent coins, in the unc. sets contain an alloy consisting of 95% copper, 3% zinc and 2% tin that matches the alloy used in the original 1909 version."
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
<< <i>I'm sure there are still plenty 2009 pennies sitting in the Treasuries warehouse. And I estimate there are many more pennies than people who want them.
Maybe........but they are the plated zinc cr%p...not 95% copper.. >>
absolutely... some collectors still don't get it or know the difference....
"Lincoln one-cent coins, in the unc. sets contain an alloy consisting of 95% copper, 3% zinc and 2% tin that matches the alloy used in the original 1909 version." >>
Redbook and Danscos (and the such).....those and collectors will start understanding. But, as mentioned before, there have to be holes for them and a little more acknowledgement.
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I picked up 3 sets from the mint yesterday.
<< <i>i went to buy some from the mint yesterday but they were "sold out". i bought 3 sets on ebay for $30 each shipped, so issue cost. told my brother to buy a couple sets and forget about them. >>
Sometimes eBay transactions puzzle me. $30 shipped had to be a loser after fees and shipping costs. I guess they made it up by selling in volume.
<< <i>I am "In stock and reserved" for 75 2009 mint sets. >>
I wonder if the buyers on this board pushed sales over 1 million.
<< <i>i went to buy some from the mint yesterday but they were "sold out". i bought 3 sets on ebay for $30 each shipped, so issue cost. told my brother to buy a couple sets and forget about them. >>
There is a dutch ebay auction( no connection to me or anyone I know) right now for 50 2009 mint sets at $33 per set. The shipping is $4.50 pre set though.
<< <i>There is a dutch ebay auction( no connection to me or anyone I know) right now for 50 2009 mint sets at $33 per set. The shipping is $4.50 pre set though. >>
Those didn't last long!!!!!!!
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>The LP1 set was a big winner indeed, and is going for 10x the issue price on ebay. Is anyone else buying any 2009 Mint sets? >>
That is completely, pardon the expression, retarded.
To spend $90 for $1 worth of pennies, that can only be distinguished from circulated coins by the fancy wrapping paper and a dated box. BIG DEAL
<< <i>I am "In stock and reserved" for 75 2009 mint sets. >>
....and I thought that my 25 was a lot...
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<< <i>The LP1 set was a big winner indeed, and is going for 10x the issue price on ebay. Is anyone else buying any 2009 Mint sets? >>
That is completely, pardon the expression, retarded.
To spend $90 for $1 worth of pennies, that can only be distinguished from circulated coins by the fancy wrapping paper and a dated box. BIG DEAL >>
I totally agree that it just makes no sense, but it's what the market will bear. Something is worth what you can get for it.
<< <i>I picked up a few more today due to this thread.
Not much downside with the face value involved but I'd bet the last minute feeding frenzy pushed sales up considerably. >>
I'll be surprised if the final sales number is over 800,000. The set was a bargain at $28, but storage and transportation issues may have limited the number of people willing to "load the boat" before the cutoff date.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
EDITED: The collector coin sales figures below have an "as of date" of June 13, 2010, although it posted today 6/17. Therefore, they will likely change a bit more during the last day spike.
----Item---------------------------------------------Last Wk ==Today ==Chg ==% Chg
2009 United States Mint Uncirculated Set---------771,204 ==774,844 +3,640 +0.47%
2009 United States Mint Proof Set---------------1,475,264 ==1,477,967 +2,703 +0.18%
2009 U.S. Mint Silver Proof Set--------------------690,822 ==694,406 +3,584 +0.52%
2009 Professional Life Rolls---------------------- 291,534 ==294,083 +2,549 +0.87%
2009 Presidency Rolls-----------------------------259,941 ==264,700 +4,759 +1.83
We'll see where they land in the final few more days.
Source: CoinNews.net
<< <i>I think that most people are still in the dark with regards to these mintset pennies. This is the only way to get these coins in the 95% copper composition from Philly and Denver. They can be differentiated from their ZINC counterparts not only by the Satin Finish, but also by their weight as these will be slightly heavier than the normal business strike (need a scale to measure the difference). With each of these having a mintage under 1 million they should be winners just like the 1996-W dime and there are 8 keys in this set (4 Denver and 4 Philly). >>
I thought the 95% copper Lincolns were only proof "S" coins. They're satin finish too?
<< <i>I thought the 95% copper Lincolns were only proof "S" coins. They're satin finish too?
Yes, all the satin finish Lincolns in the Mint Set are 95% copper, and the Mint Set is the only source for 2009 Philly and Denver bronze cents. I picked up a few more of the cents from the set on eBay - they're still reasonably priced in my opinion.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
<< <i>It will really help the aftermarket prices of these 2009 mint set cents after the major TPGS's recognize them.....which they will at some point. >>
The TPG's already recognize them as "Satin Finish", so the question is whether they will also recognize them as a distinct (bronze) composition. They already have separate categories for the 1982 bronze and zinc cents, so they should treat the 2009 issues the same IMO.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
<< <i>
<< <i>It will really help the aftermarket prices of these 2009 mint set cents after the major TPGS's recognize them.....which they will at some point. >>
The TPG's already recognize them as "Satin Finish", so the question is whether they will also recognize them as a distinct (bronze) composition. They already have separate categories for the 1982 bronze and zinc cents, so they should treat the 2009 issues the same IMO. >>
Wouldn't you say these are a unique coin being both bronze and satin finish? The other satin finish cents (2005-2008) are zinc and no other bronze cents are satin finish-making this a one of a kind coin type??? Am I correct that PCGS has not issued a coin number or did I just miss it?
They should be included in every penny album that contains more than 2 slots for 1982 or 1960.
These are listed in the pops ATS as SMS Bronze.......
Box of 20
<< <i>Do these have to be submitted to PCGS in the original mint packaging to get them slabbed as Satins? How else would they be able to distinguish them? >>
The finish and the weight.
<< <i>It will really help the aftermarket prices of these 2009 mint set cents after the major TPGS's recognize them.....which they will at some point. >>
I don't think the TPG are going to be what drives demand. I believe it will be when all the album makers put two places for each in the albums, one for copper and one for zinc.
That may cause some grass roots demand over time. In 5 years if everyone with a penny album needs them, watch out.
I don't really see this happening folks.
The name is LEE!
The price is up to $11.95 but seller still has 17 available. I think I will get some too.
<< <i>The point is NOT that they are satins, the point is they are the ONLY place you can get 95 percent copper, needed for all sets and also the four different coins will end up as type coins as well. >>
Again, since the satin finish and proof coins are the ONLY source of the 95% copper alloy coins, it stands to reason that every Satin Finish and Proof coin for 2009 is of this alloy. Absolutely no point in expressing the alloy content on the label since there are no other alloys available for the satin finish or proof coins. Coins with different alloys such as the 1982 Lincolns had different alloys for the same year necessitating specific identification of different "type" of coin.
The name is LEE!
That may be how the TPG see it but I hope not because it glosses over the unique feature of this coin which distinguishes it from other satin finish cents. I would think that the most unique feature of a coin should be the primary label modifier. Also, it seem that a dramatic change in the composition necessitates a new type coin. Suppose the Mint went to aluminum cents in a satin finish. You would not want to lump them together with the satin zinc cents.
<< <i>Well, as long as the total stays below 866,000 the 1931-S will fall from 1st to 9th place for the last century of lincoln pennies. >>
Excellent forward thinking, knowing the history of numismatics. I believe you're onto something.
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<< <i>These are all gone now. The $11.95 8 coin cent uncirculated strips that were available that is. >>
Several sellers are offering these.
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
<< <i>
<< <i>These are all gone now. The $11.95 8 coin cent uncirculated strips that were available that is. >>
Several sellers are offering these. >>
More money though.
1. VDB on reverse, wheat (1909)
2. No VDB (1909-1917)
3. VDB on Lincoln's shoulder (bronze) (1918-1958)
4. Zinc coated steel (1943)
5. "Shell case" (1944-1946)
6. Lincoln Memorial reverse, bronze (1959-1962)
7. Lincoln Memorial reverse, "tinless" (1962-1982)
8. Lincoln Memorial reverse, zinc (1982-2008)
9-12. Lincoln 200th Anniversary, zinc (4 reverses, 2009)
13-16. Lincoln 200th Anniversary, bronze (4 reverses, 2009)
17. Shield reverse, zinc (2010 onward)
All 17 are available uncirculated, and 11 in proof.
As types, the lowest mintages by far are 13-16, Lincoln 200th Anniversary bronze.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
Maybe........but they are the plated zinc cr%p...not 95% copper..
<< <i>I'm sure there are still plenty 2009 pennies sitting in the Treasuries warehouse. And I estimate there are many more pennies than people who want them.
Maybe........but they are the plated zinc cr%p...not 95% copper..
absolutely... some collectors still don't get it or know the difference....
"Lincoln one-cent coins, in the unc. sets contain an alloy consisting of 95% copper, 3% zinc and 2% tin that matches the alloy used in the original 1909 version."
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MS70 Coins.........Zero Many don't even get a MS69
If you are lucky enough to get a MS70 coin(s) theres no telling what it/they will be worth.
wonder what a set of all 4 coins in MS70 will be worth a few years down the road?
<< <i>
<< <i>I'm sure there are still plenty 2009 pennies sitting in the Treasuries warehouse. And I estimate there are many more pennies than people who want them.
Maybe........but they are the plated zinc cr%p...not 95% copper..
absolutely... some collectors still don't get it or know the difference....
"Lincoln one-cent coins, in the unc. sets contain an alloy consisting of 95% copper, 3% zinc and 2% tin that matches the alloy used in the original 1909 version." >>
Redbook and Danscos (and the such).....those and collectors will start understanding. But, as mentioned before, there have to be holes for them and a little more acknowledgement.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment