<< <i>I am not reading this whole thread to find out, but who ELSE ordered in the first hour or 2 on Jan. 22 and STILL hasn't received their UHR? The more I see these, the angrier I'm getting. WTH happened to MY order? >>
I wonder how many UHRs were lost or stolen or people claimed they didn't get them, when they actually did..
I bet you the number is higher than other forms of lost shipments.
I'll say this even if I didn't get mind and had to filed a claim, the government is still the people you must fight to get a replacement or a refund and it won't be easy..
I just can't believe there was no sig.. required till this day on a $1,200 "GOLD" coin..
I just learned the second UHR I arranged to order 2/24 was finally "sent to the warehouse, and should ship in 7-10 days..."
Going to wait until it comes in and send that, and my other, FS-eligible UHR in to PCGS... I'm not too concerned about declining selling values - have noticed these, too - as I never had the intention to sell either coin. I think, as some do, these will be prized possessions down the road, and their profit value is almost irrelevant, at least until such time as I NEED to sell... but I don't think that time will ever come.
Until... ?
Guess everything's for sale, at the right price. Or the right time. Or the right reason. For now, I plan to enjoy owning them for a time, as we all will - caretakers that we are, eh?
UBERCOINER
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
I received my NGC MS69 PL UHR today, see images below. Both obverse and reverse have nicely reflective prooflike fields. Though, the devices do not have the strong cameo contrast of an American Gold Eagle proof.
I have not seen very many of these graded PL by NGC, except for one other which was an MS70 Prooflike that sold on eBay for $4,982!
<< <i>I received my NGC MS69 PL UHR today, see images below. Both obverse and reverse have nicely reflective prooflike fields. Though, the devices do not have the strong cameo contrast of an American Gold Eagle proof.
I have not seen very many of these graded PL by NGC, except for one other which was an MS70 Prooflike that sold on eBay for $4,982!
As great as I think these UHRs are, I'm still in a state of shock when I think about the extremely high prices that people are paying for FS MS70 slabbed coins. Here's a question for the sellers who have made and still are making a killing on these: Would YOU pay over $2000 for any UHR, and if so, what's your reasoning?
<< <i>I received my NGC MS69 PL UHR today, see images below. Both obverse and reverse have nicely reflective prooflike fields. Though, the devices do not have the strong cameo contrast of an American Gold Eagle proof.
I have not seen very many of these graded PL by NGC, except for one other which was an MS70 Prooflike that sold on eBay for $4,982!
<< <i>As great as I think these UHRs are, I'm still in a state of shock when I think about the extremely high prices that people are paying for FS MS70 slabbed coins. Here's a question for the sellers who have made and still are making a killing on these: Would YOU pay over $2000 for any UHR, and if so, what's your reasoning? >>
NO!!
FS is a label that for all practical purpose means nothing.
PL means even less.
They are just marketing gimmicks.
With that said, I took my $1,000+ profit and put it in the bank.
<< <i>As great as I think these UHRs are, I'm still in a state of shock when I think about the extremely high prices that people are paying for FS MS70 slabbed coins. Here's a question for the sellers who have made and still are making a killing on these: Would YOU pay over $2000 for any UHR, and if so, what's your reasoning? >>
NO!!
FS is a label that for all practical purpose means nothing.
PL means even less.
They are just marketing gimmicks.
With that said, I took my $1,000+ profit and put it in the bank. >>
What he said.... $2,000 profit (one coin-sold early). Please let there be a platinum UHR.
<< <i>As great as I think these UHRs are, I'm still in a state of shock when I think about the extremely high prices that people are paying for FS MS70 slabbed coins. Here's a question for the sellers who have made and still are making a killing on these: Would YOU pay over $2000 for any UHR, and if so, what's your reasoning? >>
NO!!
FS is a label that for all practical purpose means nothing.
PL means even less.
They are just marketing gimmicks.
With that said, I took my $1,000+ profit and put it in the bank. >>
No, why pay Double melt value when you can buy them from the little man that can't afford the coin in the first place. He then needs a quick sale to pay off his credit card or get his rent money for sticking his neck out in the first place..
I have sold 4 PCGS 70 1st strikes so far for a average of $2,500.. Owing 2 others for my personal collection. Simply getting them free after selling the other 4 and putting a couple grand in your pocket, for later buys..
There is no better hobby in the world to make this kind of quick money. I never mess with Nickel, dime coins like many collectors do, and funny thing they have so much expertise in the hobby.
Investing in Old St.Guads, or Modern Bullion Gold is the key to financial Freedom..
I am surprised they are holding there value. My guess is they will come down once the one coin limit is lifted at the Mint. I mean it's only April and these will be for sale until December....
Pops at PCGS are
1290 70's 572 69's
55,513 sold by the Mint.
If everyone got their coin graded there would be 41,250 MS70's.
<< <i>I am surprised they are holding there value. My guess is they will come down once the one coin limit is lifted at the Mint. I mean it's only April and these will be for sale until December....
Pops at PCGS are
1290 70's 572 69's
55,513 sold by the Mint.
If everyone got their coin graded there would be 41,250 MS70's.
Ok listen good, no doubt to me the PL ones are worth more, your PCGS is fine if it doesn't have the die polish lines and has that same mirror. The designation itself is not impotant but these PL coins are better looking and could be rare
<< <i>Ok listen good, no doubt to me the PL ones are worth more, your PCGS is fine if it doesn't have the die polish lines and has that same mirror. The designation itself is not impotant but these PL coins are better looking and could be rare >>
The PL's will be a rarity.. There are not a lot of them out there.. So, I am listening to ya Bob...
My 2nd UHR should arrive today, and this one, I can open up and have a look-see... been waiting for this one, so I can send in both this, and the FS-eligible coin I got 3 weeks ago.
It would pleae me to no end if the FS graded a 70, of course, yet even if both were to enjoy this coronation, I still plan to keep them both.
Having said that, I'm sure I might have been tempted, with the same results, to sell one for a quick and high profit, and try to come close to owning a "free" UHR, but I had never planned in advance to do this. With prices now hovering lower on the bay, hanging on to these a while may prove to have been the more prudent act.
Makes me wonder, too, if the Mint removes the purchase limit, where prices for the grades could come down further, at least in the short term. So far as I know, the Mint hasn't announced the final mintage goal, and as someone already mentioned, there are 8 more months in the year in which they can be ordered. Lots of room there for the boiling hot initial frenzy to cool down. If this is the case, the flippers will breathe a sigh of relief - all the way to the bank! The rest of us will simply enjoy owning it.
UBERCOINER
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
IMO that coin should've gone for at least $3500, if the 70PL went for $5,000. As the difference between (non PL) FS 69 & 70 is 30%. And I've only heard of 2 PL's. Makes it worth sending it to NGC for this designation.
<< <i>With prices now hovering lower on the bay, hanging on to these a while may prove to have been the more prudent act. >>
When they lift the limit, I may turn around and buy another just to keep in the box. After all, it will be free. I don't see any reason to slab it.
Will they increase in value, who really know. Just like all the other coins in the past, it could go either way. Once the buyers of the gimmick coins are gone, it will all boil down to the final mintage number. One thing it has going for it is the economy. Some people can't buy them right now but may want one in the future when things get better. But, if the limit is lifted, there may be a bunch on the market.
To date roughly 23% of 70 FS, have sold or are for sale on ebay. Graded= 1290 (PCGS) + 586 (NGC) = 1876. Currently for sale on ebay=58. Completed ebay sales bet. 3-22 to date= 191; I have no figs so I used the same numbers (191) for the 14 days from 3-8 to 3-22, total 440. Even though not all sales were 'completed', this is more than offset by private auctions sales, or private sales as mentioned by a prior poster. If we extrapolate out with this just representing one month since the first UHR sold, would it be reasonable to say half of all FS 70's will change hands in the first 2-3 months of release?
Well, I just picked up my non-FS UHR... WOW! What a beyooteefull coin!!
After a cursory inspection, I've determined I need to inspect it again. I don't see any rim dings or marks, though I can see barely perceptible polish lines. Could be the capsule needs to be cleaned, but I don't think that's a big help. Still, the coin looks pristine.
I plan to take this one, and the FS eligible UHR to a not-too-local coin shop which informs me they've sent in a lot of these coins for grading. I'm sure their trained eye can offer a clearer perspective - not to put too fine a point on it...
Now that I have it, I hate to send it off to camp, but in the end, it may come home a better coin, and I'm sure that even though it won't be able to mix with the OTHER coins, it won't really have an interest in making new friends ANYWAY!!!
UBERCOINER
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
<< <i>If you aren't going to sell it, why slab it? Enjoy it the way it is. You can always get it slabbed later. >>
That argument is good but I see 2 things that should be thought of in making the decision....
1) Prices tend to go up for many things, not down, and grading is likely one of the ones that doesn't go back down. 2) If he does decide to sell it, at some point, he may need to flip it quick and if it is already slabbed, there is no delay. If it isn't, he has to wait for it to go there, get graded, and come back, then sell it.
Don't get me wrong. I don't believe in slabbing everything and in many cases, I agree with the "if you aren't going to sell it, why slab it?" but on something like this, it is probably better of slabbed if it can get a 70. Even if it is just going to be kept for awhile.
<< <i>If you aren't going to sell it, why slab it? Enjoy it the way it is. You can always get it slabbed later. >>
That argument is good but I see 2 things that should be thought of in making the decision....
1) Prices tend to go up for many things, not down, and grading is likely one of the ones that doesn't go back down. 2) If he does decide to sell it, at some point, he may need to flip it quick and if it is already slabbed, there is no delay. If it isn't, he has to wait for it to go there, get graded, and come back, then sell it.
Don't get me wrong. I don't believe in slabbing everything and in many cases, I agree with the "if you aren't going to sell it, why slab it?" but on something like this, it is probably better of slabbed if it can get a 70. Even if it is just going to be kept for awhile. >>
In a few previous posts, I'd said that I wasn't planning on slabbing the second coin, since it wasn't FS eligible. Suddenly, I got it in my hands, and I'd forgotten all about those posts... hmmmm
Fact is, I do enjoy having one in its original [presentation] state, especially when displayed in such a beautiful case. True, I could slab it later, and don't see myself in a position needing to off the coin in a hurry. Even so if a slabbed coin is likely to increase in value, it follows that an original coin should grow as well. My intent, then as now, was to hold and enjoy both coins.
Obviously, my mercenary gene hasn't kicked in here... I could make a tidy profit and maybe pick up another three or four coins. Considering the pops, I'd have an excellent shot at scoring a 70, and could easily wind up with a "free" coin or two.
Hmmm...
I'll have to get back to ya on this one... I may have been mistaken.
(Don't you just l-o-v-e circular arguments?)
UBERCOINER
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
<< <i>If you aren't going to sell it, why slab it? Enjoy it the way it is. You can always get it slabbed later. >>
That argument is good but I see 2 things that should be thought of in making the decision....
1) Prices tend to go up for many things, not down, and grading is likely one of the ones that doesn't go back down. 2) If he does decide to sell it, at some point, he may need to flip it quick and if it is already slabbed, there is no delay. If it isn't, he has to wait for it to go there, get graded, and come back, then sell it.
Don't get me wrong. I don't believe in slabbing everything and in many cases, I agree with the "if you aren't going to sell it, why slab it?" but on something like this, it is probably better of slabbed if it can get a 70. Even if it is just going to be kept for awhile. >>
Hello everyone. I am a new member, and obviously this is my first post. It is unbelievable how knowledgeable you all are on your expertise. I truly enjoy reading all of the posts everday.
I have a couple of questions. I aplogize if the answers are in this thread. I ordered my UHR on 04/02, and received it today. I figured I had some time to raise funds based on the anticiapted shipping of 06/24, but I guess they found me one a little quicker. I am still waiting on 2008 Silver Proof sets ordered in mid-February. Go figure.
My questions are this: When the mint receives a return for a UHR now, do they send it back out when a new order arrives? Also, my UHR is loose inside the plastic capsule. This is different from all of the other encapsulated coins I received. Isn't there the possibility of rim damage when they get flipped?
So who has been watching the UHR PL on EBAY as they keep poping up. Right now there is a non early release from the people across the street. As the flippers keep beating each other into lower prices making a tradeout and submission is starting to look good. I don't think what I have left would cross into PL. Anyone else thinking about a cross into PL land? PCGS does not give PL to gold (per PCGS when I asked). Wish they did. But that's ok. I'm happy with my FS PCGS UHR I have left on hand.
Well, well, well, guess what I received today form the Department of Treasury?
I sent a letter to Brunhart, US Mint Deputy Director, complaining about the way the mint was handling the UHR shipping or lack of and not using FIFO. I have a detailed explaination on how the process is suppossed to work but they didn't hit on the problem of shipping LIFO. So it's a lot of blah blah blah.
I feel the need to verify the coin was actually sent in, requesting the FS designation. At the time I left the dealer above, I noticed he simply wrote "FS" on the box (presumably for his own reference), and since I've never had a coin graded, recall there is a form PCGS requires which, among other information, asks if an FS designation is desired.
Would you call the dealer to confirm this, or would it be better to call PCGS?
UBERCOINER
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
<< <i>Jeez, I thought this thread died months ago. It's like Night of the Living Dead - the zombies just keep coming atcha!
BTW - I can't imagine why anyone would want to order 10 of these now. The total mintage is above 70K... >>
Many predicted that if the mintage could be kept below 100,000 then these would remain both a collectable and an investment. Will be interesting to see.
<< <i>Jeez, I thought this thread died months ago. It's like Night of the Living Dead - the zombies just keep coming atcha!
BTW - I can't imagine why anyone would want to order 10 of these now. The total mintage is above 70K... >>
Many predicted that if the mintage could be kept below 100,000 then these would remain both a collectable and an investment. Will be interesting to see. >>
Were lots wanting more than one for something other than flipping? I know some did for gifts, heirlooms, etc. But how big is that market, and has it been satisfied yet?
If the limit is now increased to 10 it would seem that there should be little incentive for dealers to stock their inventory with high priced coins that anyone can order for themselves. Now as the minting year comes to an end one could see that changing.
Just over 10 hours to go before the clock strikes 12 again and the UHR's become special to many with an appetite for beauty and more than one.............
Well, I ordered my Late-Strike 2009 UHR from the MINT website and it was much quicker and smoother than the first-struck one!!!!!! Hah! A bit more expensive too.
<< <i>Well, I ordered my Late-Strike 2009 UHR from the MINT website and it was much quicker and smoother than the first-struck one!!!!!! Hah! A bit more expensive too.
Comments
<< <i>I am not reading this whole thread to find out, but who ELSE ordered in the first hour or 2 on Jan. 22 and STILL hasn't received their UHR? The more I see these, the angrier I'm getting. WTH happened to MY order? >>
fax the mint director's office.
I bet you the number is higher than other forms of lost shipments.
I'll say this even if I didn't get mind and had to filed a claim, the government is still the people you must fight to get a replacement or a refund and it won't be easy..
I just can't believe there was no sig.. required till this day on a $1,200 "GOLD" coin..
Going to wait until it comes in and send that, and my other, FS-eligible UHR in to PCGS... I'm not too concerned about declining selling values - have noticed these, too - as I never had the intention to sell either coin. I think, as some do, these will be prized possessions down the road, and their profit value is almost irrelevant, at least until such time as I NEED to sell... but I don't think that time will ever come.
Until... ?
Guess everything's for sale, at the right price. Or the right time. Or the right reason. For now, I plan to enjoy owning them for a time, as we all will - caretakers that we are, eh?
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent
Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
<< <i>Thanks Jesse, Goldbully, and a few others with the warm re-welcome.. Yea, I'm back.. Time will tell..
Been reading for the last two weeks, things haven't lost a beat..
Just had to step back and think things over about a few loose lug nuts that troll here and attack everything I write..
With warm emails and pms from a lot of you guys, I decided a few pedophiles shouldn't push good people away.. So, we will see. Yaha.. >>
I for one am glad you came back.
Fred, Las Vegas, NV
<< <i>My book came today and required a signature. My coin was left on the porch last month with no signature required
Looks like this thread has now turned to the delivery of the book. lol
I have not seen very many of these graded PL by NGC, except for one other which was an MS70 Prooflike that sold on eBay for $4,982!
<< <i>I received my NGC MS69 PL UHR today, see images below. Both obverse and reverse have nicely reflective prooflike fields. Though, the devices do not have the strong cameo contrast of an American Gold Eagle proof.
I have not seen very many of these graded PL by NGC, except for one other which was an MS70 Prooflike that sold on eBay for $4,982!
>>
ahhhh.... you had me wondering.
it was ER, too. but it just sold on Apr 02!
"Because I can"
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Here's a question for the sellers who have made and still are making a killing on these:
Would YOU pay over $2000 for any UHR, and if so, what's your reasoning?
<< <i>I received my NGC MS69 PL UHR today, see images below. Both obverse and reverse have nicely reflective prooflike fields. Though, the devices do not have the strong cameo contrast of an American Gold Eagle proof.
I have not seen very many of these graded PL by NGC, except for one other which was an MS70 Prooflike that sold on eBay for $4,982!
NGC 69 PL sold for $1950 last week.
<< <i>As great as I think these UHRs are, I'm still in a state of shock when I think about the extremely high prices that people are paying for FS MS70 slabbed coins.
Here's a question for the sellers who have made and still are making a killing on these:
Would YOU pay over $2000 for any UHR, and if so, what's your reasoning? >>
NO!!
FS is a label that for all practical purpose means nothing.
PL means even less.
They are just marketing gimmicks.
With that said, I took my $1,000+ profit and put it in the bank.
<< <i>
<< <i>As great as I think these UHRs are, I'm still in a state of shock when I think about the extremely high prices that people are paying for FS MS70 slabbed coins.
Here's a question for the sellers who have made and still are making a killing on these:
Would YOU pay over $2000 for any UHR, and if so, what's your reasoning? >>
NO!!
FS is a label that for all practical purpose means nothing.
PL means even less.
They are just marketing gimmicks.
With that said, I took my $1,000+ profit and put it in the bank. >>
What he said.... $2,000 profit (one coin-sold early). Please let there be a platinum UHR.
<< <i>
<< <i>As great as I think these UHRs are, I'm still in a state of shock when I think about the extremely high prices that people are paying for FS MS70 slabbed coins.
Here's a question for the sellers who have made and still are making a killing on these:
Would YOU pay over $2000 for any UHR, and if so, what's your reasoning? >>
NO!!
FS is a label that for all practical purpose means nothing.
PL means even less.
They are just marketing gimmicks.
With that said, I took my $1,000+ profit and put it in the bank. >>
No, why pay Double melt value when you can buy them from the little man that can't afford the coin in the first place. He then needs a quick sale to pay off his credit card or get his rent money for sticking his neck out in the first place..
I have sold 4 PCGS 70 1st strikes so far for a average of $2,500.. Owing 2 others for my personal collection. Simply getting them free after selling the other 4 and putting a couple grand in your pocket, for later buys..
There is no better hobby in the world to make this kind of quick money. I never mess with Nickel, dime coins like many collectors do, and funny thing they have so much expertise in the hobby.
Investing in Old St.Guads, or Modern Bullion Gold is the key to financial Freedom..
<< <i>NGC 69 PL sold for $1950 last week. >>
Yep, That is the coin.
I am surprised they are holding there value. My guess is they will come down once the one coin limit is lifted at the Mint. I mean it's only April and these will be for sale until December....
Pops at PCGS are
1290 70's
572 69's
55,513 sold by the Mint.
If everyone got their coin graded there would be 41,250 MS70's.
Anyone have the NGC numbers?
<< <i>I am surprised they are holding there value. My guess is they will come down once the one coin limit is lifted at the Mint. I mean it's only April and these will be for sale until December....
Pops at PCGS are
1290 70's
572 69's
55,513 sold by the Mint.
If everyone got their coin graded there would be 41,250 MS70's.
Anyone have the NGC numbers? >>
As of 4/6 NGC
Early Release 403 MS69 586 MS70
Regular 166 MS69 256 MS70
Fred, Las Vegas, NV
<< <i>Ok listen good, no doubt to me the PL ones are worth more, your PCGS is fine if it doesn't have the die polish lines and has that same mirror. The designation itself is not impotant but these PL coins are better looking and could be rare >>
The PL's will be a rarity.. There are not a lot of them out there.. So, I am listening to ya Bob...
It would pleae me to no end if the FS graded a 70, of course, yet even if both were to enjoy this coronation, I still plan to keep them both.
Having said that, I'm sure I might have been tempted, with the same results, to sell one for a quick and high profit, and try to come close to owning a "free" UHR, but I had never planned in advance to do this. With prices now hovering lower on the bay, hanging on to these a while may prove to have been the more prudent act.
Makes me wonder, too, if the Mint removes the purchase limit, where prices for the grades could come down further, at least in the short term. So far as I know, the Mint hasn't announced the final mintage goal, and as someone already mentioned, there are 8 more months in the year in which they can be ordered. Lots of room there for the boiling hot initial frenzy to cool down. If this is the case, the flippers will breathe a sigh of relief - all the way to the bank! The rest of us will simply enjoy owning it.
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent
Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
<< <i>
<< <i>NGC 69 PL sold for $1950 last week. >>
Yep, That is the coin. >>
IMO that coin should've gone for at least $3500, if the 70PL went for $5,000. As the difference between (non PL) FS 69 & 70 is 30%. And I've only heard of 2 PL's. Makes it worth sending it to NGC for this designation.
<< <i>With prices now hovering lower on the bay, hanging on to these a while may prove to have been the more prudent act. >>
When they lift the limit, I may turn around and buy another just to keep in the box. After all, it will be free. I don't see any reason to slab it.
Will they increase in value, who really know. Just like all the other coins in the past, it could go either way. Once the buyers of the gimmick coins are gone, it will all boil down to the final mintage number. One thing it has going for it is the economy. Some people can't buy them right now but may want one in the future when things get better. But, if the limit is lifted, there may be a bunch on the market.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260388573987
After a cursory inspection, I've determined I need to inspect it again. I don't see any rim dings or marks, though I can see barely perceptible polish lines. Could be the capsule needs to be cleaned, but I don't think that's a big help. Still, the coin looks pristine.
I plan to take this one, and the FS eligible UHR to a not-too-local coin shop which informs me they've sent in a lot of these coins for grading. I'm sure their trained eye can offer a clearer perspective - not to put too fine a point on it...
Now that I have it, I hate to send it off to camp, but in the end, it may come home a better coin, and I'm sure that even though it won't be able to mix with the OTHER coins, it won't really have an interest in making new friends ANYWAY!!!
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent
Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
<< <i>If you aren't going to sell it, why slab it? Enjoy it the way it is. You can always get it slabbed later. >>
That argument is good but I see 2 things that should be thought of in making the decision....
1) Prices tend to go up for many things, not down, and grading is likely one of the ones that doesn't go back down.
2) If he does decide to sell it, at some point, he may need to flip it quick and if it is already slabbed, there is no delay. If it isn't, he has to wait for it to go there, get graded, and come back, then sell it.
Don't get me wrong. I don't believe in slabbing everything and in many cases, I agree with the "if you aren't going to sell it, why slab it?" but on something like this, it is probably better of slabbed if it can get a 70. Even if it is just going to be kept for awhile.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>
<< <i>If you aren't going to sell it, why slab it? Enjoy it the way it is. You can always get it slabbed later. >>
That argument is good but I see 2 things that should be thought of in making the decision....
1) Prices tend to go up for many things, not down, and grading is likely one of the ones that doesn't go back down.
2) If he does decide to sell it, at some point, he may need to flip it quick and if it is already slabbed, there is no delay. If it isn't, he has to wait for it to go there, get graded, and come back, then sell it.
Don't get me wrong. I don't believe in slabbing everything and in many cases, I agree with the "if you aren't going to sell it, why slab it?" but on something like this, it is probably better of slabbed if it can get a 70. Even if it is just going to be kept for awhile. >>
In a few previous posts, I'd said that I wasn't planning on slabbing the second coin, since it wasn't FS eligible. Suddenly, I got it in my hands, and I'd forgotten all about those posts... hmmmm
Fact is, I do enjoy having one in its original [presentation] state, especially when displayed in such a beautiful case. True, I could slab it later, and don't see myself in a position needing to off the coin in a hurry. Even so if a slabbed coin is likely to increase in value, it follows that an original coin should grow as well. My intent, then as now, was to hold and enjoy both coins.
Obviously, my mercenary gene hasn't kicked in here...
Hmmm...
I'll have to get back to ya on this one... I may have been mistaken.
(Don't you just l-o-v-e circular arguments?)
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent
Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
<< <i>
<< <i>If you aren't going to sell it, why slab it? Enjoy it the way it is. You can always get it slabbed later. >>
That argument is good but I see 2 things that should be thought of in making the decision....
1) Prices tend to go up for many things, not down, and grading is likely one of the ones that doesn't go back down.
2) If he does decide to sell it, at some point, he may need to flip it quick and if it is already slabbed, there is no delay. If it isn't, he has to wait for it to go there, get graded, and come back, then sell it.
Don't get me wrong. I don't believe in slabbing everything and in many cases, I agree with the "if you aren't going to sell it, why slab it?" but on something like this, it is probably better of slabbed if it can get a 70. Even if it is just going to be kept for awhile. >>
+1
I have a couple of questions. I aplogize if the answers are in this thread. I ordered my UHR on 04/02, and received it today. I figured I had some time to raise funds based on the anticiapted shipping of 06/24, but I guess they found me one a little quicker. I am still waiting on 2008 Silver Proof sets ordered in mid-February. Go figure.
My questions are this: When the mint receives a return for a UHR now, do they send it back out when a new order arrives? Also, my UHR is loose inside the plastic capsule. This is different from all of the other encapsulated coins I received. Isn't there the possibility of rim damage when they get flipped?
Thanks everyone.
Jimmy
I would guess that yes, and yes would be your answers, but I don't work at PBGS and didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn express last night.
So who has been watching the UHR PL on EBAY as they keep poping up.
Right now there is a non early release from the people across the
street. As the flippers keep beating each other into lower prices making
a tradeout and submission is starting to look good. I don't think what
I have left would cross into PL. Anyone else thinking about a cross into
PL land? PCGS does not give PL to gold (per PCGS when I asked). Wish
they did. But that's ok. I'm happy with my FS PCGS UHR I have left on hand.
Never a dull moment on the UHRs.
I sent a letter to Brunhart, US Mint Deputy Director, complaining about the way the mint was handling the UHR shipping or lack of and not using FIFO. I have a detailed explaination on how the process is suppossed to work but they didn't hit on the problem of shipping LIFO. So it's a lot of blah blah blah.
Grading Dilemma Linky
I feel the need to verify the coin was actually sent in, requesting the FS designation. At the time I left the dealer above, I noticed he simply wrote "FS" on the box (presumably for his own reference), and since I've never had a coin graded, recall there is a form PCGS requires which, among other information, asks if an FS designation is desired.
Would you call the dealer to confirm this, or would it be better to call PCGS?
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent
Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
BTW - I can't imagine why anyone would want to order 10 of these now. The total mintage is above 70K...
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
Be sure to set up the MINT speed dial for your 9 or 10 UHR's !!
Miles
The raw ones have been selling for a premium on ebay, so this is significant.
<< <i>Jeez, I thought this thread died months ago. It's like Night of the Living Dead - the zombies just keep coming atcha!
BTW - I can't imagine why anyone would want to order 10 of these now. The total mintage is above 70K... >>
Many predicted that if the mintage could be kept below 100,000 then these would remain both a collectable and an investment. Will be interesting to see.
<< <i>The raw ones have been selling for a premium on ebay, so this is significant. >>
I so guess in that area.
I think it will mean an end to UHR sales with a premium on eBay, barring perhaps the FS/ER 70's.
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<< <i>Jeez, I thought this thread died months ago. It's like Night of the Living Dead - the zombies just keep coming atcha!
BTW - I can't imagine why anyone would want to order 10 of these now. The total mintage is above 70K... >>
Many predicted that if the mintage could be kept below 100,000 then these would remain both a collectable and an investment. Will be interesting to see. >>
Were lots wanting more than one for something other than flipping? I know some did for gifts, heirlooms, etc. But how big is that market, and has it been satisfied yet?
Miles
A bit more expensive too.
Miles
<< <i>Well, I ordered my Late-Strike 2009 UHR from the MINT website and it was much quicker and smoother than the first-struck one!!!!!! Hah!
A bit more expensive too.
Miles >>
How much more?
Now there are at $1,289.00 .
(Isn't there a $50 price increase possible this week?)