Well my UHR did not make the 1st strike deadline even though I ordered 12 minutes after release.
But my bosses who could care less about coins got his ordered 2 hours after release, and got it to PCGS This monday and already graded a MS70 wooohooo for him.
O well the faster I can sell it the better! Now I hope my sister has the same luck!
<< <i>Well my UHR did not make the 1st strike deadline even though I ordered 12 minutes after release.
But my bosses who could care less about coins got his ordered 2 hours after release, and got it to PCGS This monday and already graded a MS70 wooohooo for him.
O well the faster I can sell it the better! Now I hope my sister has the same luck! >>
Just curious, but why would your boss who could care less about coins order one and then send it in for grading?
<< <i>Well my UHR did not make the 1st strike deadline even though I ordered 12 minutes after release.
But my bosses who could care less about coins got his ordered 2 hours after release, and got it to PCGS This monday and already graded a MS70 wooohooo for him.
O well the faster I can sell it the better! Now I hope my sister has the same luck! >>
Just curious, but why would your boss who could care less about coins order one and then send it in for grading? >>
Because he saw how excited I was to order one, he asked why. I explained what I was gonna do with my profit. he said Can I do it too? I said sure. He is in it for the profit. Me too, but my profit will go to help my Super Slider type set.
now that i received my uhr with back spot.did i read some where that if you ordered your coin 1/22-2/6 you have 30 days instead of 7days?how does this work return it for a replacement or will i have to buy it again @ higher price? thank you
Well I was pleasantly surprised to find out that my fist PCGS submission ever (A UHRDE) graded as MS70. I opened the box before sending it in and thought it had a chance. So here is my question. I have a second UHRDE in a sealed box with a date that qualifies it for FS designation. What would you do?
Send it in and take a chance on the grade or sell it on Ebay as a FS eligible UHRDE and take the for sure Smaller but decent premium over cost or... keep it because selling the first one pays for the second regardless of grade.
While it must be nice to own the first FS graded by PCGS, I wonder what the guy who paid 10K for it on Ebay must be thinking?
I have an FS eligible coin, and plan to have it graded soon, but never was interested in flipping it. At least, not until my retirement, and have a few years before that happens
Soon will have a 2nd UHR, and since that, of course, won't be FS, I'll be attempting to put to practice my own very limited skills to determine if I ought to send that to PCGS as well (this, no doubt, worth a 2nd, and a 3rd opinion :goodluck
Of course, I bow to those more knowledgeable, and experienced, but cannot help but believe in 10 years +, it will have been worth the effort. After all, we don't buy them to USE them, do we? We buy them to pass 'em on...
UBERCOINER
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
Finally got my other 2 yesterday afternoon (courtesy of 2 other friends). The 4 ladies are now all together. They were all ordered the first day (2 - order # 3083xxxx shipped 3/3 and 2 - order # 3084xxxx shipped 3/12). Hope anybody with first day orders get theirs soon.
<< <i>looks like resale of pcgs fs ms70's will soon be a few hundred bucks over issue.......
those prices are dropping on the secondary mkt....... >>
I have one still in the sealed box and shipped from the Mint on the 11th. Confirmed by PCGS that it qualifies for FS designation if shipped in a sealed condition.
My thoughts - looks like more rather than less of the coins are being graded as MS70. This will make the coin less valuable, since there will be so many around. Is it worth sending in the coin for grade and FS category....when it probably won't add much to the coins value?
<< <i>Well I was pleasantly surprised to find out that my fist PCGS submission ever (A UHRDE) graded as MS70. I opened the box before sending it in and thought it had a chance. So here is my question. I have a second UHRDE in a sealed box with a date that qualifies it for FS designation. What would you do?
Send it in and take a chance on the grade or sell it on Ebay as a FS eligible UHRDE and take the for sure Smaller but decent premium over cost or... keep it because selling the first one pays for the second regardless of grade.
Jeff >>
The 70's are $2500. The 69's are $1500. Unopened box is $1750, no need for grading. If you need the money then unopened box. If you don't , then send it in to PCGS, as 2 out of 3 are coming back 70. I would do a one day auction, as 70 prices are coming down.
<< <i>looks like resale of pcgs fs ms70's will soon be a few hundred bucks over issue.......
those prices are dropping on the secondary mkt....... >>
Ebay is flooded with them.Prices are all over the place.Gonna be awhile before things settle down to see where prices land.Any premium left will be with the First Strike ones.
<< <i>now that i received my uhr with back spot.did i read some where that if you ordered your coin 1/22-2/6 you have 30 days instead of 7days?how does this work return it for a replacement or will i have to buy it again @ higher price? thank you >>
<< <i>now that i received my uhr with back spot.did i read some where that if you ordered your coin 1/22-2/6 you have 30 days instead of 7days?how does this work return it for a replacement or will i have to buy it again @ higher price? thank you >>
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Question If I received my 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin without the Companion Book, and want to return the product for any reason, what will be the timeframe in which I must return the product so I can receive a refund or exchange?
Answer If you ordered your 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin between January 22, 2009, and February 9, 2009, you are under the 30-day return policy. If you ordered on or after February 10, 2009, you are under the seven-day return policy. The return timeframe for the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold COIN and presentation box will begin on the date you receive it. If you are dissatisfied for any reason with your 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold COIN, you may send it back to the United States Mint within the applicable return period for a full refund or replacement. If you return your COIN for any reason prior to receiving the Companion Book, you will not receive the Companion Book at a later date. If you receive the Companion Book within the applicable return period, you must return both for a full refund.
If your Companion Book is shipped separately, the exchange timeframe for it also will begin on the date received and be under the same return policy - 30 days or seven days - as applicable. We will make no refunds for the Companion Book; we will make exchanges for damages only.
I tried to catch how many of those 72 they sold... at the time, they were 20 minutes into the hour, and had sold 7, or so they said...
HSN controversial procurements seems in this case an understatement. Can only surmise they picked these up in the aftermarket, presumably unopened boxes eligible for FS, but I can't find anything on the ANACS site that speaks to FDOI (First Day of Issue)...
Though I admit to being relatively new to the hobby, I've come to learn that PCGS is "perceived" to be more rigid than NGC is more rigid than ANACS. But I don't fully understand why. My limited exposure admittedly a drawback, is it really just perception, or is there a definitive, technical or historical reason why PCGS seems to command, on average, higher sale prices than NGC?
I have coins graded by all three services, yet, if NGC or ANACS, for example, grades coins using a similarly rigid analysis as PCGS, and their grading is consistent, I have to ask myself, as a collector, why I wouldn't acquire a coin that would grade identically - or nearly so - at a lower cost, even if it isn't graded by PCGS?
Not trying to buy on the cheap, just trying to understand, and develop some perspective.
UBERCOINER
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
Please help this novice...I received my coin which qualifies for first strike, as I have not opened the box, and it has the 03/11/2009 date as required....but...
Someone on another thread questioned whether they would send thier coin in, sight unseen (having not opened the box), as they didn't trust TPG's???
Is this a valid concern? I was going to sign up with PCGS for the gold membership, as i see value there, getting 4 free submissions....
your thoughts on sending in a coin you have not seen yet? is there a risk there?
Also, will PCGS return everything in the box along with the coin?
Sorry for the questions, but I appreciate the help.
thanks Placid...last thing I want to do is sell my coin, just didn't understand that there was a question on the integrity part of the grading Co., ya know?
<< <i>I received my UHR on the 11th. However, there is nothing printed on the box that indicates when it was sent.
How does PCGS determine when the box was mailed. Will they accept the delivery confirmation info from the Post Office web site? >>
The invoice inside the box should say when it was packaged and shipped. >>
Thanks! >>
Ummmm....call PCGS before you go by that. Yes, there is an invoice in there, and it should be 1 day prior to when it got shipped (looked at the one I got/opened), but the PCGS website says they go by the POSTMARKED date on the package (for unopened submissions past the cutoff date).
If they use the inside invoice, that would be cool......
Here is a photo I took this week at the ANA Money Show in Portland at the US Mint's booth there. Pictured is the one and only UHR the Mint brought along with the even rarer UHR Book!
I received a PCGS MS69 grade for my UHR. This was the first time I played the 69 70 FS game and it will probably be the last. I got caught up in all the hype, and now it's time to return to my tried and tested coin collecting pursuits.
has there been any further speculation about the "navels", someone earlier said they may indicate earlier die life strike specimen.... anyone think they may become a legitimate variety? (umbilicus conspicuous)
I am in the process of joining the Gold membership there at PCGS, so that I can send in my UHR and my 1995-W 10th anniversary set to be graded. I put in my username and password from here (like it says to do) and it isn't recognized. So if I put in a different one to join, will it screw this one up?
Also, the anniversary set is in a presentation box. Should I send it into PCGS in THAT, or just send in the coins in their plastic coin holders but put them in a plastic bag or something?
Man, I am REALLY nervous about sending these coins in...talking about several thousand dollars of coins going thru the mail...yech
I will use fedex though...trust them a lot more than UPS.
One more thing...I have no idea what EXACTLY is in the sealed box that the UHR came to me in. How do I know that all the paperwork and goodies that came with it from the mint will be shipped back to me from PCGS?
If you are very nervous, I would use USPS registered mail. I would also be nervous about milk spots on the 1995 W silver eagle after you have it graded. In fact, if it doesn't have milk spots I would consider leaving it as is.
<< <i>Need some advice here....Man, I am REALLY nervous about sending these coins in...talking about several thousand dollars of coins going thru the mail...yech
I will use fedex though...trust them a lot more than UPS. >>
As far as I know, FedEx doesn't insure gold coins.
I send any gold or rare coins to PCGS via the USPS Registered/Insured mail. The package is placed into a locked bag, requiring a signiture from every postal worker from the clerk you hand it over to at the counter to the clerk that deposits it into PCGS's post office box. These packages can be insured up to $25,000, if I recall properly.
As far as I know the insurance claims tend to go much more smoothly than the USPS's regular insurance, and costs less per $100 as the security is supposed to be much greater.
<< <i>has there been any further speculation about the "navels", someone earlier said they may indicate earlier die life strike specimen.... anyone think they may become a legitimate variety? (umbilicus conspicuous) >>
I could see this becoming a variety of note. Not much chatter about it yet. If one of the publications makes note of it then look out. I think that since most people have only seen one or maybe two of these coins side by side, the opportunity to spot varieties has been reduced.
p.s. we may have to pull out our secret weapon John Nanney to get things going.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
I am in the process of joining the Gold membership there at PCGS, so that I can send in my UHR and my 1995-W 10th anniversary set to be graded. I put in my username and password from here (like it says to do) and it isn't recognized. So if I put in a different one to join, will it screw this one up?
Also, the anniversary set is in a presentation box. Should I send it into PCGS in THAT, or just send in the coins in their plastic coin holders but put them in a plastic bag or something?
Man, I am REALLY nervous about sending these coins in...talking about several thousand dollars of coins going thru the mail...yech
I will use fedex though...trust them a lot more than UPS.
One more thing...I have no idea what EXACTLY is in the sealed box that the UHR came to me in. How do I know that all the paperwork and goodies that came with it from the mint will be shipped back to me from PCGS?
Very nervous here...... >>
1) No it won't screw it up. 2) I wouldn't send in the presentation box, don't think that helps with any special designation. 3) I'd be nervous as well if I used UPS or Fedex as they do not insure coins, go usps registered. 4) On your submission form just write ***please return all mint packaging*** and pay the fee, I think it's $2.00 extra but it's been awhile since I have submitted... 4) Oh ya after shipping cross your fingers...
Got mine this morning! Had to sign for it, too. Coin looks great, didn't see any of the reverse rim defects, although it does have a bit of wire rim on the obverse. I don't think there's much risk of the capsule popping open, that thing is tough to open.
I am in the process of joining the Gold membership there at PCGS, so that I can send in my UHR and my 1995-W 10th anniversary set to be graded. I put in my username and password from here (like it says to do) and it isn't recognized. So if I put in a different one to join, will it screw this one up?
Also, the anniversary set is in a presentation box. Should I send it into PCGS in THAT, or just send in the coins in their plastic coin holders but put them in a plastic bag or something?
Man, I am REALLY nervous about sending these coins in...talking about several thousand dollars of coins going thru the mail...yech
I will use fedex though...trust them a lot more than UPS.
One more thing...I have no idea what EXACTLY is in the sealed box that the UHR came to me in. How do I know that all the paperwork and goodies that came with it from the mint will be shipped back to me from PCGS?
Very nervous here...... >>
2) I wouldn't send in the presentation box, don't think that helps with any special designation. 3) I'd be nervous as well if I used UPS or Fedex as they do not insure coins, go usps registered. >>
#2 you have to send in the unopened white box from the mint for the First Strike designation. everyone here knows what is in it. also, I wonder if anyone here has ever had any trouble with lost materials. I haven't.
#3 true. FedEx only provides $500 insurance for collectible coins. they never used to ask what is inside, but now they are doing it pretty regularly. don't chance it and lie to them.
My first submission to PCGS ever was this UHRDE coin and it graded MS70. I opened the package and noticed some of the issues others have raised about the appearance. Mine had light hairline polishing marks on the obverse - not so apparent on the reverse. It graded MS70 so as struck may mean as struck.
I am in the process of joining the Gold membership there at PCGS, so that I can send in my UHR and my 1995-W 10th anniversary set to be graded. I put in my username and password from here (like it says to do) and it isn't recognized. So if I put in a different one to join, will it screw this one up?
Also, the anniversary set is in a presentation box. Should I send it into PCGS in THAT, or just send in the coins in their plastic coin holders but put them in a plastic bag or something?
Man, I am REALLY nervous about sending these coins in...talking about several thousand dollars of coins going thru the mail...yech
I will use fedex though...trust them a lot more than UPS.
One more thing...I have no idea what EXACTLY is in the sealed box that the UHR came to me in. How do I know that all the paperwork and goodies that came with it from the mint will be shipped back to me from PCGS?
Very nervous here...... >>
2) I wouldn't send in the presentation box, don't think that helps with any special designation. 3) I'd be nervous as well if I used UPS or Fedex as they do not insure coins, go usps registered. >>
#2 you have to send in the unopened white box from the mint for the First Strike designation. everyone here knows what is in it. also, I wonder if anyone here has ever had any trouble with lost materials. I haven't.
#3 true. FedEx only provides $500 insurance for collectible coins. they never used to ask what is inside, but now they are doing it pretty regularly. don't chance it and lie to them. >>
Do you have a link to Fedex providing $500 for collectible coins?
This was all I could find: Prohibited Items You are prohibited from tendering the following items for shipment except for antique furniture described in NMFC Items 100240 or 100260, or pictures or paintings described in Items 100240, 100260 or 149420, the following property will not be accepted for shipment nor as premiums accompanying other articles:
1. Money, cash, bank bills, coins, currency, paper money and negotiable instruments equivalent to cash, such as endorsed stocks, bonds, drafts and cash letters.
How long after they charge your account does it take for the coin to show up? I found that my account had been charged this morning for the UHR and the Lincoln rolls!!
<< <i>a rep looked it up while I was at the office. >>
Ok I looked into it some more and here's what I found, I edited the list:
Declared Value & Insurance FedEx has maximum insured values. Shipments (packages or freight) containing all or part of the following items are limited to a maximum declared value of US$500: We cannot insure beyond these limits. If you wish to insure for higher amounts, we can ship your item via UPS and/or USPS via 3rd party insurance like PIC. Please review the list below of FedEx value limitations
Precious metals, including, but not limited to, gold and silver bullion or dust, precipitates, or platinum (except as an integral part of electronic machinery).
Ostrich and emu eggs.
Collector's items such as sports cards, souvenirs and memorabilia. (Collector's coins and stamps may not be shipped. See the Prohibited Items section.)
The maximum declared value for the contents of any FedEx Envelope or FedEx Pak is US $500. Goods with a value (actual or declared) exceeding US$500 should not be shipped in a FedEx Envelope or FedEx Pak. (This limitation does not apply to items shipped utilizing the FedEx Large or Small Clinical Pak.
So I guess if we call it bullion they will insure it, and in a bigger shipping carton the insurance limit would be higher...And they also ship Ostrich and emu eggs in case anyone was wondering....But note collectible coins are prohibited...
<< <i>a rep looked it up while I was at the office. >>
Ok I looked into it some more and here's what I found, I edited the list:
Declared Value & Insurance FedEx has maximum insured values. Shipments (packages or freight) containing all or part of the following items are limited to a maximum declared value of US$500: We cannot insure beyond these limits. If you wish to insure for higher amounts, we can ship your item via UPS and/or USPS via 3rd party insurance like PIC. Please review the list below of FedEx value limitations
Precious metals, including, but not limited to, gold and silver bullion or dust, precipitates, or platinum (except as an integral part of electronic machinery).
Ostrich and emu eggs.
Collector's items such as sports cards, souvenirs and memorabilia. (Collector's coins and stamps may not be shipped. See the Prohibited Items section.)
The maximum declared value for the contents of any FedEx Envelope or FedEx Pak is US $500. Goods with a value (actual or declared) exceeding US$500 should not be shipped in a FedEx Envelope or FedEx Pak. (This limitation does not apply to items shipped utilizing the FedEx Large or Small Clinical Pak.
So I guess if we call it bullion they will insure it, and in a bigger shipping carton the insurance limit would be higher...And they also ship Ostrich and emu eggs in case anyone was wondering....But note collectible coins are prohibited... >>
heh...
copper alloy bullion weighing in the area of grams?
Comments
<< <i>NGC requires that the coins are received by the Early Release deadline.
See the following "ask NGC" question.
Ask NGC
PCGS is only option for Special designation now.
Joe >>
Thanks Joe, That was the info I was looking for
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<< <i>I received my UHR on the 11th. However, there is nothing printed on the box that indicates when it was sent.
How does PCGS determine when the box was mailed. Will they accept the delivery confirmation info from the Post Office web site?
The invoice inside the box should say when it was packaged and shipped. >>
Thanks!
But my bosses who could care less about coins got his ordered 2 hours after release, and got it to PCGS This monday and already graded a MS70 wooohooo for him.
O well the faster I can sell it the better! Now I hope my sister has the same luck!
<< <i>I received my UHR on the 11th. However, there is nothing printed on the box that indicates when it was sent.
How does PCGS determine when the box was mailed. Will they accept the delivery confirmation info from the Post Office web site?
There is a ship date on the label, its there.
At the ANA in Portland all the FS 70's I could find were sold in the first day for $3K. Going strong.
<< <i>Well my UHR did not make the 1st strike deadline even though I ordered 12 minutes after release.
But my bosses who could care less about coins got his ordered 2 hours after release, and got it to PCGS This monday and already graded a MS70 wooohooo for him.
O well the faster I can sell it the better! Now I hope my sister has the same luck! >>
Just curious, but why would your boss who could care less about coins order one and then send it in for grading?
<< <i>
<< <i>Well my UHR did not make the 1st strike deadline even though I ordered 12 minutes after release.
But my bosses who could care less about coins got his ordered 2 hours after release, and got it to PCGS This monday and already graded a MS70 wooohooo for him.
O well the faster I can sell it the better! Now I hope my sister has the same luck! >>
Just curious, but why would your boss who could care less about coins order one and then send it in for grading? >>
Because he saw how excited I was to order one, he asked why. I explained what I was gonna do with my profit. he said Can I do it too? I said sure. He is in it for the profit. Me too, but my profit will go to help my Super Slider type set.
Send it in and take a chance on the grade or sell it on Ebay as a FS eligible UHRDE and take the for sure Smaller but decent premium over cost or... keep it because selling the first one pays for the second regardless of grade.
Jeff
those prices are dropping on the secondary mkt.......
I have an FS eligible coin, and plan to have it graded soon, but never was interested in flipping it. At least, not until my retirement, and have a few years before that happens
Soon will have a 2nd UHR, and since that, of course, won't be FS, I'll be attempting to put to practice my own very limited skills to determine if I ought to send that to PCGS as well (this, no doubt, worth a 2nd, and a 3rd opinion :goodluck
Of course, I bow to those more knowledgeable, and experienced, but cannot help but believe in 10 years +, it will have been worth the effort. After all, we don't buy them to USE them, do we? We buy them to pass 'em on...
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent
Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
<< <i>looks like resale of pcgs fs ms70's will soon be a few hundred bucks over issue.......
those prices are dropping on the secondary mkt....... >>
I have one still in the sealed box and shipped from the Mint on the 11th. Confirmed by PCGS that it qualifies for FS designation if shipped in a sealed condition.
My thoughts - looks like more rather than less of the coins are being graded as MS70. This will make the coin less valuable, since there will be so many around. Is it worth sending in the coin for grade and FS category....when it probably won't add much to the coins value?
<< <i>Well I was pleasantly surprised to find out that my fist PCGS submission ever (A UHRDE) graded as MS70. I opened the box before sending it in and thought it had a chance. So here is my question. I have a second UHRDE in a sealed box with a date that qualifies it for FS designation. What would you do?
Send it in and take a chance on the grade or sell it on Ebay as a FS eligible UHRDE and take the for sure Smaller but decent premium over cost or... keep it because selling the first one pays for the second regardless of grade.
Jeff >>
The 70's are $2500. The 69's are $1500. Unopened box is $1750, no need for grading. If you need the money then unopened box. If you don't , then send it in to PCGS, as 2 out of 3 are coming back 70. I would do a one day auction, as 70 prices are coming down.
<< <i>looks like resale of pcgs fs ms70's will soon be a few hundred bucks over issue.......
those prices are dropping on the secondary mkt....... >>
Ebay is flooded with them.Prices are all over the place.Gonna be awhile before things settle down to see where prices land.Any premium left will be with the First Strike ones.
HSN is on as I write, selling ANACS FDOI's SP70's for $2,995.95...
The man says they have 72 of them... most still at the grading co.
Wonder how they came by them?
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent
Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
<< <i>now that i received my uhr with back spot.
replacement is just a replacement.
date of delivery of my return: mar 6th, no ack. yet. going to have to call them.
next frontier in pbgs improvement: handling returns.
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<< <i>now that i received my uhr with back spot.
Question
If I received my 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin without the Companion Book, and want to return the product for any reason, what will be the timeframe in which I must return the product so I can receive a refund or exchange?
Answer
If you ordered your 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin between January 22, 2009, and February 9, 2009, you are under the 30-day return policy. If you ordered on or after February 10, 2009, you are under the seven-day return policy. The return timeframe for the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold COIN and presentation box will begin on the date you receive it. If you are dissatisfied for any reason with your 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold COIN, you may send it back to the United States Mint within the applicable return period for a full refund or replacement. If you return your COIN for any reason prior to receiving the Companion Book, you will not receive the Companion Book at a later date. If you receive the Companion Book within the applicable return period, you must return both for a full refund.
If your Companion Book is shipped separately, the exchange timeframe for it also will begin on the date received and be under the same return policy - 30 days or seven days - as applicable. We will make no refunds for the Companion Book; we will make exchanges for damages only.
<< <i>Hey Imron!
HSN is on as I write, selling ANACS FDOI's SP70's for $2,995.95...
The man says they have 72 of them... most still at the grading co.
Wonder how they came by them? >>
Thanks for the info. What a rip!
Gettin a good deal on HSN is rare!
HSN's procurement of US Mint products is quite controversial.
And the TPGs grading the HSN products is equally controversial.
I think this is a black eye for the numismatic world. Sad.
I don't know how those tv coin hosts sleep at night. Sick.
HSN controversial procurements seems in this case an understatement. Can only surmise they picked these up in the aftermarket, presumably unopened boxes eligible for FS, but I can't find anything on the ANACS site that speaks to FDOI (First Day of Issue)...
Though I admit to being relatively new to the hobby, I've come to learn that PCGS is "perceived" to be more rigid than NGC is more rigid than ANACS. But I don't fully understand why. My limited exposure admittedly a drawback, is it really just perception, or is there a definitive, technical or historical reason why PCGS seems to command, on average, higher sale prices than NGC?
I have coins graded by all three services, yet, if NGC or ANACS, for example, grades coins using a similarly rigid analysis as PCGS, and their grading is consistent, I have to ask myself, as a collector, why I wouldn't acquire a coin that would grade identically - or nearly so - at a lower cost, even if it isn't graded by PCGS?
Not trying to buy on the cheap, just trying to understand, and develop some perspective.
A Truth That's Told With Bad Intent
Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
Please help this novice...I received my coin which qualifies for first strike, as I have not opened the box, and it has the 03/11/2009 date as required....but...
Someone on another thread questioned whether they would send thier coin in, sight unseen (having not opened the box), as they didn't trust TPG's???
Is this a valid concern? I was going to sign up with PCGS for the gold membership, as i see value there, getting 4 free submissions....
your thoughts on sending in a coin you have not seen yet? is there a risk there?
Also, will PCGS return everything in the box along with the coin?
Sorry for the questions, but I appreciate the help.
In a sealed box obviously you cant check the coin 1st to see if it has a chance at 70 or not.
If you send it in then you get what you get and some are ok with that and some are not happy with anything less than a 70.
If you do get a 69 then you can sell it and buy a 70 or buy another 1st strike eligble box and try again.
To try or not is your choice and I would guess you have a 50/50 chance of getting a 70.
I would trust pcgs to grade the coin you send in.
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<< <i>I received my UHR on the 11th. However, there is nothing printed on the box that indicates when it was sent.
How does PCGS determine when the box was mailed. Will they accept the delivery confirmation info from the Post Office web site?
The invoice inside the box should say when it was packaged and shipped. >>
Thanks!
Ummmm....call PCGS before you go by that. Yes, there is an invoice in there, and it should be 1 day prior to when it got shipped (looked at the one I got/opened), but the PCGS website says they go by the POSTMARKED date on the package (for unopened submissions past the cutoff date).
If they use the inside invoice, that would be cool......
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
This was the first time I played the 69 70 FS game and it will probably be the last.
I got caught up in all the hype, and now it's time to return to my tried and tested coin collecting pursuits.
(l8-)>>
I am in the process of joining the Gold membership there at PCGS, so that I can send in my UHR and my 1995-W 10th anniversary set to be graded. I put in my username and password from here (like it says to do) and it isn't recognized. So if I put in a different one to join, will it screw this one up?
Also, the anniversary set is in a presentation box. Should I send it into PCGS in THAT, or just send in the coins in their plastic coin holders but put them in a plastic bag or something?
Man, I am REALLY nervous about sending these coins in...talking about several thousand dollars of coins going thru the mail...yech
I will use fedex though...trust them a lot more than UPS.
One more thing...I have no idea what EXACTLY is in the sealed box that the UHR came to me in. How do I know that all the paperwork and goodies that came with it from the mint will be shipped back to me from PCGS?
Very nervous here......
<< <i>Need some advice here....Man, I am REALLY nervous about sending these coins in...talking about several thousand dollars of coins going thru the mail...yech
I will use fedex though...trust them a lot more than UPS.
As far as I know, FedEx doesn't insure gold coins.
I send any gold or rare coins to PCGS via the USPS Registered/Insured mail. The package is placed into a locked bag, requiring a signiture from every postal worker from the clerk you hand it over to at the counter to the clerk that deposits it into PCGS's post office box. These packages can be insured up to $25,000, if I recall properly.
As far as I know the insurance claims tend to go much more smoothly than the USPS's regular insurance, and costs less per $100 as the security is supposed to be much greater.
January 22, 2009. 12:22 PM Eastern Time.
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TODAY SHOULD BE THE DAY! Confirmed tracking Saturday for today delivery. Now I am just hoping for a nice one! Pics to come shortly hopefully....
<< <i>has there been any further speculation about the "navels", someone earlier said they may indicate earlier die life strike specimen.... anyone think they may become a legitimate variety? (umbilicus conspicuous) >>
I could see this becoming a variety of note. Not much chatter about it yet. If one of the publications makes note of it then look out. I think that since most people have only seen one or maybe two of these coins side by side, the opportunity to spot varieties has been reduced.
p.s. we may have to pull out our secret weapon John Nanney to get things going.
<< <i>Need some advice here....
I am in the process of joining the Gold membership there at PCGS, so that I can send in my UHR and my 1995-W 10th anniversary set to be graded. I put in my username and password from here (like it says to do) and it isn't recognized. So if I put in a different one to join, will it screw this one up?
Also, the anniversary set is in a presentation box. Should I send it into PCGS in THAT, or just send in the coins in their plastic coin holders but put them in a plastic bag or something?
Man, I am REALLY nervous about sending these coins in...talking about several thousand dollars of coins going thru the mail...yech
I will use fedex though...trust them a lot more than UPS.
One more thing...I have no idea what EXACTLY is in the sealed box that the UHR came to me in. How do I know that all the paperwork and goodies that came with it from the mint will be shipped back to me from PCGS?
Very nervous here...... >>
1) No it won't screw it up.
2) I wouldn't send in the presentation box, don't think that helps with any special designation.
3) I'd be nervous as well if I used UPS or Fedex as they do not insure coins, go usps registered.
4) On your submission form just write ***please return all mint packaging*** and pay the fee, I think it's $2.00 extra but it's been awhile since I have submitted...
4) Oh ya after shipping cross your fingers...
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<< <i>Need some advice here....
I am in the process of joining the Gold membership there at PCGS, so that I can send in my UHR and my 1995-W 10th anniversary set to be graded. I put in my username and password from here (like it says to do) and it isn't recognized. So if I put in a different one to join, will it screw this one up?
Also, the anniversary set is in a presentation box. Should I send it into PCGS in THAT, or just send in the coins in their plastic coin holders but put them in a plastic bag or something?
Man, I am REALLY nervous about sending these coins in...talking about several thousand dollars of coins going thru the mail...yech
I will use fedex though...trust them a lot more than UPS.
One more thing...I have no idea what EXACTLY is in the sealed box that the UHR came to me in. How do I know that all the paperwork and goodies that came with it from the mint will be shipped back to me from PCGS?
Very nervous here...... >>
2) I wouldn't send in the presentation box, don't think that helps with any special designation.
3) I'd be nervous as well if I used UPS or Fedex as they do not insure coins, go usps registered.
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#2 you have to send in the unopened white box from the mint for the First Strike designation. everyone here knows what is in it. also, I wonder if anyone here has ever had any trouble with lost materials. I haven't.
#3 true. FedEx only provides $500 insurance for collectible coins. they never used to ask what is inside, but now they are doing it pretty regularly. don't chance it and lie to them.
Jeff
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<< <i>Need some advice here....
I am in the process of joining the Gold membership there at PCGS, so that I can send in my UHR and my 1995-W 10th anniversary set to be graded. I put in my username and password from here (like it says to do) and it isn't recognized. So if I put in a different one to join, will it screw this one up?
Also, the anniversary set is in a presentation box. Should I send it into PCGS in THAT, or just send in the coins in their plastic coin holders but put them in a plastic bag or something?
Man, I am REALLY nervous about sending these coins in...talking about several thousand dollars of coins going thru the mail...yech
I will use fedex though...trust them a lot more than UPS.
One more thing...I have no idea what EXACTLY is in the sealed box that the UHR came to me in. How do I know that all the paperwork and goodies that came with it from the mint will be shipped back to me from PCGS?
Very nervous here...... >>
2) I wouldn't send in the presentation box, don't think that helps with any special designation.
3) I'd be nervous as well if I used UPS or Fedex as they do not insure coins, go usps registered.
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#2 you have to send in the unopened white box from the mint for the First Strike designation. everyone here knows what is in it. also, I wonder if anyone here has ever had any trouble with lost materials. I haven't.
#3 true. FedEx only provides $500 insurance for collectible coins. they never used to ask what is inside, but now they are doing it pretty regularly. don't chance it and lie to them. >>
Do you have a link to Fedex providing $500 for collectible coins?
This was all I could find:
Prohibited Items
You are prohibited from tendering the following items for shipment except for antique furniture described in NMFC Items 100240 or 100260, or pictures or paintings described in Items 100240, 100260 or 149420, the following property will not be accepted for shipment nor as premiums accompanying other articles:
1. Money, cash, bank bills, coins, currency, paper money and negotiable instruments equivalent to cash, such as endorsed stocks, bonds, drafts and cash letters.
2. Collectible coins and stamps.
???
as it seems right now, it gets there when it gets there. no joke.
<< <i>a rep looked it up while I was at the office. >>
Ok I looked into it some more and here's what I found, I edited the list:
Declared Value & Insurance
FedEx has maximum insured values. Shipments (packages or freight) containing all or part of the following items are limited to a maximum declared value of US$500: We cannot insure beyond these limits. If you wish to insure for higher amounts, we can ship your item via UPS and/or USPS via 3rd party insurance like PIC. Please review the list below of FedEx value limitations
Precious metals, including, but not limited to, gold and silver bullion or dust, precipitates, or platinum (except as an integral part of electronic machinery).
Ostrich and emu eggs.
Collector's items such as sports cards, souvenirs and memorabilia. (Collector's coins and stamps may not be shipped. See the Prohibited Items section.)
The maximum declared value for the contents of any FedEx Envelope or FedEx Pak is US $500. Goods with a value (actual or declared) exceeding US$500 should not be shipped in a FedEx Envelope or FedEx Pak. (This limitation does not apply to items shipped utilizing the FedEx Large or Small Clinical Pak.
So I guess if we call it bullion they will insure it, and in a bigger shipping carton the insurance limit would be higher...And they also ship Ostrich and emu eggs in case anyone was wondering....But note collectible coins are prohibited...
They have my UHR return "cataloged" in their system as of 4 days after receipt.
Bad News!
Received on the same day and signed for by the same person.... my Lincoln Commem's and they are not showing as returned as of 1 week after receipt!
Go PBGS!
At first the rep didn't seem worried by this disparity.
Then I pointed to my earlier order that was "never found."
Rep says to give it another week. (Earlier said it could take 30 days... but others have said 2-3 weeks.)
Next Reforms - return processes.
Jeff
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<< <i>a rep looked it up while I was at the office. >>
Ok I looked into it some more and here's what I found, I edited the list:
Declared Value & Insurance
FedEx has maximum insured values. Shipments (packages or freight) containing all or part of the following items are limited to a maximum declared value of US$500: We cannot insure beyond these limits. If you wish to insure for higher amounts, we can ship your item via UPS and/or USPS via 3rd party insurance like PIC. Please review the list below of FedEx value limitations
Precious metals, including, but not limited to, gold and silver bullion or dust, precipitates, or platinum (except as an integral part of electronic machinery).
Ostrich and emu eggs.
Collector's items such as sports cards, souvenirs and memorabilia. (Collector's coins and stamps may not be shipped. See the Prohibited Items section.)
The maximum declared value for the contents of any FedEx Envelope or FedEx Pak is US $500. Goods with a value (actual or declared) exceeding US$500 should not be shipped in a FedEx Envelope or FedEx Pak. (This limitation does not apply to items shipped utilizing the FedEx Large or Small Clinical Pak.
So I guess if we call it bullion they will insure it, and in a bigger shipping carton the insurance limit would be higher...And they also ship Ostrich and emu eggs in case anyone was wondering....But note collectible coins are prohibited... >>
heh...
copper alloy bullion weighing in the area of grams?