<< <i>trozau, I believe RWB made some cogent and informative points.
I don't believe he has any concern about the 4mm UHR fitting into a PCGS slab.
Regards, GB >>
Until I hear a definitive yea from PCGS that their holder can accommodate the 4mm thickness, it's a toss (until they start grading and attempt slabbing these puppies in 2009). >>
Update: From Cladiator's "How to crack out with PCGS slabs - Video inside" thread, I had requested him to measure the thickness of the cavity where the coin he liberated from a PCGS slab were contained and the following are his findings (also posted in his thread):
"<< If you still have the broken slabs, can you measure the thickness of the cavity where the liberated coin resided just to see if the 4mm thickness 2009 UHR Double Eagle will fit >>
It's exactly 4mm. My digital calipers gave me just a tad bit wider measurement from the middle but I'm sure that was from the plastic flexing. If the coin is 4mm I'd say it won't fit. It would be rubbing up against the plastic window and that doesn't sound like a great idea, especially for something as soft as gold."
You know, I opened up the page with the striking pressure progression and saw captions of 15 MT throgh 55 MT, then thought, "55 megatons? Sounds a little extreme. That would have sent one hell of a shock wave through the press room. I'd like to see the collar die that could contain that... oh... Metric tons. Never mind."
HISTORIC FIRST STRIKE OF NATION’S MOST BEAUTIFUL COIN
United States Mint at West Point Begins Producing 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin
WEST POINT, N.Y. -The United States Mint at West Point invited officials from numismatic organizations and reporters to witness the historic first production strike of the highly anticipated 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin today. The new 24-karat (.9999 pure) gold coin is a modern version of what many call the most beautiful gold piece ever created-Augustus Saint-Gaudens' 1907 Double Eagle. The United States Mint will begin taking orders for the new collectible gold coin early next year.
United States Mint Director Ed Moy struck the first coin, which will be transferred to the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History. He struck a second coin as an addition to the United States Mint's heritage assets.
"This gold ultra high relief coin, evoking Augustus Saint-Gaudens' 1907 Double Eagle with Liberty striding forward, is one of the world's most beautiful coins," Director Moy told the crowd. "The United States Mint is proud to render the vision of President Theodore Roosevelt and Augustus Saint-Gaudens in a way that honors our past and raises the bar for the future. One hundred years from now, I believe the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin will be remembered as the birth of the greatest American century in coin-making history."
In the early 1900s, President Roosevelt called for a "renaissance" in American coinage. He thought the coins of that era were unattractive and wanted them to embody the national identity of the United States and its preeminence on the world stage. Roosevelt chose Augustus Saint-Gaudens to redesign America's coins. Saint-Gaudens was a renowned sculptor and artist who shared the President's vision for expressing America's national identity visually through art. However, despite Saint-Gaudens' masterful design for a $20 gold piece with ultra high relief, it could not be mass produced using the technology of that era.
Now, aided by advancements in technology, the United States Mint can produce, in quantity, the ultra high relief coin envisioned, but never fully realized, by Roosevelt and Saint-Gaudens in 1907. Through 21st century technology, original Saint-Gaudens coin plasters were digitally mapped by the United States Mint. The Saint-Gaudens sculpture - in ultra high relief - has been updated to reflect the year 2009; four stars have been added to represent the current 50 states; and the inscription IN GOD WE TRUST, which was not on the 1907 version, will be on the reverse (tails side) of the coin. Additionally, a small border was added for a more consistent edge. The 2009 coin will be made of 24-karat gold. The new 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin will have the nominal denomination of $20.
The sales price for the coin has not been determined; it will depend, in part, on prevailing world gold prices. It will be available early next year via the United States Mint's Web Site at www.usmint.gov or by phone at 1-800-USA-MINT.
The press release is a wee bit deceitful. The 1907 coin was made of 90% Au / 10% Cu. That's a lot more difficult to strike up than the 24KT gold for the 2009 coin.
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Just curious. What does this little bit on the mint's website mean when referring to this coin? Are they going to change their bullion coinage to these things?
<< <i>The 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin closes one chapter of American coin design and begins a new one. >>
I'm proud to have had some tiny role in the new gold coin and in the Director's interest in a Renaissance of American Coinage. I was unable to attend the First Strike ceremony due to work commitments, but did participate by telephone in the CCAC meeting that followed.
<< <i>If there's a very low mintage I suggest that the mint use this thread (in the order of posts) to dole them out. Of course the bully of gold will have to leave some for the rest of us. >>
The bully of gold, eh?? >>
Watch that Modern Mint stuff bully!!!!! don't let it bite you in the rear
<< <i>If there's a very low mintage I suggest that the mint use this thread (in the order of posts) to dole them out. Of course the bully of gold will have to leave some for the rest of us. >>
The bully of gold, eh?? >>
Watch that Modern Mint stuff bully!!!!! don't let it bite you in the rear >>
<< <i>I'm proud to have had some tiny role in the new gold coin and in the Director's interest in a Renaissance of American Coinage. I was unable to attend the First Strike ceremony due to work commitments, but did participate by telephone in the CCAC meeting that followed.
RWB >>
What's a "tiny" role encompass, RWB?? That's sounds very cool!!!
NY Times Century Later, Gold Coin Reflects Sculptor’s Vision By MATTHEW HEALEY Published: November 24, 2008
WEST POINT, N.Y. — With the push of a button and some 60 tons of pressure, a blank gold disc was converted into an ultra-high-relief coin at the branch of the United States Mint here Monday, and a century-old vision for America’s coinage was finally fully realized. Producing the $20 coins, initially conceived by the American sculptor Augustus Saint-Gaudens in 1907, has been a personal goal of the mint’s director, Edmund C. Moy, since he was appointed in 2006. “Saint-Gaudens was a bit of a poet and wanted to tell a story,” Mr. Moy said at a ceremony Monday at the branch, where the new coin was first struck. “Liberty has visited America and is now marching into the rest of the world, led by enlightenment. America’s best days are ahead.”
In President Theodore Roosevelt’s opinion, those ideals weren’t embodied by existing coins, and he commissioned his friend Saint-Gaudens to come up with fresh designs.
His vision for the coin, known as a double eagle (it was twice the value of the $10 coin known as the eagle), was hailed by Roosevelt and others as a classical masterpiece. A full figure representing Liberty strides toward the viewer, torch raised, hair flowing and robes billowing, one foot on a promontory while the sun rises over the Capitol dome behind her. The reverse shows an eagle in flight over a blazing sun. The coin’s mastery lay chiefly in two trademarks of the sculptor’s style, typical of his medals: the comparatively high relief and the graceful incorporation of lettering in the design.
But one crucial person was not enamored: Charles Barber, chief engraver of the United States Mint at the time and a designer himself of several coins then in circulation — those Roosevelt and much of the public so disliked. According to Alison Frankel’s 2006 book, “Double Eagle,” Barber fought for his turf and did little to smooth the way for Saint-Gaudens’s designs.
Barber’s main critique was that the coin’s exceptionally high relief made production impossibly slow and difficult, and he had a point. In early tests up to 11 strikes per coin were required to bring out all the details. A variation using a smaller but thicker blank had to be abandoned because such a change would need Congressional approval.
Barber then remade the coin in a considerably flatter version that would work for high-volume production. The following year, 1908, Congress insisted that the motto “In God We Trust” be added. Roosevelt, a religious man, considered it inappropriate to put the name of God on money, and had told Saint-Gaudens (who died in August 1907 before production began) to omit it. The motto was inserted, somewhat incongruously, on the coin’s reverse, between the sun and its rays. This version circulated until 1933, when President Franklin D. Roosevelt, as part of his response to the Depression, banned hoarding of gold.
Today, the 1907 ultra-high relief $20 trial pieces are highly prized by collectors, not only for their beauty but also for their rarity. Fewer than two dozen survive, and they command six- and seven-figure prices. A circulated flat-relief version, containing a little less than an ounce of gold, typically sells for $800 to $1,200.
The double eagle is still generally considered the most beautiful American coin ever made. “We haven’t been as thoughtful with all our coin designs in the modern era,” Mr. Moy said after the ceremony, adding that he hoped to introduce modern coins that were beautiful, high-tech and uniquely American.
In the 1980s the mint began producing gold bullion coins that revived the flat-relief design on one side, in one-ounce sizes and smaller, for investors.
The newest coins, slightly more than an inch in diameter, use the smaller, thicker blanks rejected in 1907, are dated MMIX (2009), and contain exactly an ounce of 24-karat gold. The original coins were larger in size and contained 22-karat gold, hard enough to withstand circulation, but Mr. Moy, said modern investors prefer pure gold, which also has the benefit of being soft enough to turn into ultra-high relief coins.
The first $20 coin will be placed in the National Museum of American History of the Smithsonian Institution. The rest, which will be produced for only a year, go on sale to collectors and investors in January, at a price still to be determined, based largely on the current bullion price of gold. (On Monday afternoon it was about $824 an ounce in New York.)
Though the new coin is largely faithful to Saint-Gaudens’s vision, in one respect it won’t resemble the original: the reverse still reads “In God We Trust.”
<< <i>If there's a very low mintage I suggest that the mint use this thread (in the order of posts) to dole them out. Of course the bully of gold will have to leave some for the rest of us. >>
The bully of gold, eh?? >>
Watch that Modern Mint stuff bully!!!!! don't let it bite you in the rear >>
Who said that I was the bully of gold????
LMAO!!! >>
Alright!!!! bonus check coming in January.. I am all in on the Mint Gold
<< <i>The press release is a wee bit deceitful. The 1907 coin was made of 90% Au / 10% Cu. That's a lot more difficult to strike up than the 24KT gold for the 2009 coin. >>
Only 10% more difficult.
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I'm definitely interested in putting a roll away for a rainy day. Not for the stupid premiums I've heard they will be looking to get. Just wait for the resales.
Are they making these in business strikes and proofs?
<< <i>I've been wondering what 'type' this coin will be considered. Is it a new type of double eagle or bullion? >>
It is both. One doesn't necessarily preclude the other.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
As I understand it, the coins will be struck multiple times from fresh dies. This is similar to the process used in the early 20th century to make "satin" proof gold and certain Peace dollars. (This is what was once called "Roman finish" largely because Walter Breen didn’t know how the coins were made, so he invented a meaningless name.)
There are not supposed to be any other surface versions.
<< <i>As I understand it, the coins will be struck multiple times from fresh dies. This is similar to the process used in the early 20th century to make "satin" proof gold and certain Peace dollars. (This is what was once called "Roman finish" largely because Walter Breen didn’t know how the coins were made, so he invented a meaningless name.)
There are not supposed to be any other surface versions. >>
<< <i>I am going to hoard these like my grandchildren will fear having them seized. I am going to hoard these at $1200 per ounce. I am going to hoard these like there is no other alternative! Nice pics!!
<< <i>I am going to hoard these like my grandchildren will fear having them seized. I am going to hoard these at $1200 per ounce. I am going to hoard these like there is no other alternative! I am going to hoard these suckers like bullion! I am going to hoard these like Glocks in a New York Night Club VIP room! Nice pics!!
Miles >>
I love Miles!!!! >>
If fear of 'late acqusition' or Alarm Clock failure sets in, just reserve a few at MCM. Can't hurt....... If you can't forage and hoard, what's the point of 50,000 years of evo?? Capiche?
<< <i>I am going to hoard these like my grandchildren will fear having them seized. I am going to hoard these at $1200 per ounce. I am going to hoard these like there is no other alternative! I am going to hoard these suckers like bullion! I am going to hoard these like Glocks in a New York Night Club VIP room! Nice pics!!
Miles >>
I love Miles!!!! >>
If fear of 'late acqusition' or Alarm Clock failure sets in, just reserve a few at MCM. Can't hurt....... If you can't forage and hoard, what's the point of 50,000 years of evo?? Capiche? >>
<< <i>Without reading through the whole thread, is there a release date for the coin. I need to take that day off. >>
Per the Mint's latest PR(11/24/08): "The sales price for the coin has not been determined; it will depend, in part, on prevailing world gold prices. It will be available early next year via the United States Mint's Web Site at www.usmint.gov or by phone at 1-800-USA-MINT."
I doubt that they will ever appreciate much above melt given the unlimited, and likely massive, mintage. That said, I'm buying two of them (one for each child down the road) just because I like them so much. I saw them at the Balto. show and just loved them.
<< <i>Nope, not buying with a unlimited mintage. Like the First Spouse coins they will end up near melt value. >>
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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Sweet brochure - Thanks Goldbully!
Probably add a couple hundred to the price for the packaging...
Especially when gold bounces back to the recent record levels and beeeeyyyooooooonnnnddd!
Ren
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<< <i>trozau, I believe RWB made some cogent and informative points.
I don't believe he has any concern about the 4mm UHR fitting into a PCGS slab.
Regards,
GB >>
Until I hear a definitive yea from PCGS that their holder can accommodate the 4mm thickness, it's a toss (until they start grading and attempt slabbing these puppies in 2009).
Update: From Cladiator's "How to crack out with PCGS slabs - Video inside" thread, I had requested him to measure the thickness of the cavity where the coin he liberated from a PCGS slab were contained and the following are his findings (also posted in his thread):
"<< If you still have the broken slabs, can you measure the thickness of the cavity where the liberated coin resided just to see if the 4mm thickness 2009 UHR Double Eagle will fit >>
It's exactly 4mm. My digital calipers gave me just a tad bit wider measurement from the middle but I'm sure that was from the plastic flexing. If the coin is 4mm I'd say it won't fit. It would be rubbing up against the plastic window and that doesn't sound like a great idea, especially for something as soft as gold."
<< <i>Sweet brochure - Thanks Goldbully! >>
You are welcome FishyOne.....
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<< <i>Wow, a virtual look at the 2009 Display Cases!!!!!!
Very cool!!!!!!
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You know, I opened up the page with the striking pressure progression and saw captions of 15 MT throgh 55 MT, then thought, "55 megatons? Sounds a little extreme. That would have sent one hell of a shock wave through the press room. I'd like to see the collar die that could contain that... oh... Metric tons. Never mind."
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HISTORIC FIRST STRIKE OF NATION’S MOST BEAUTIFUL COIN
United States Mint at West Point Begins Producing 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin
WEST POINT, N.Y. -The United States Mint at West Point invited officials from numismatic organizations and reporters to witness the historic first production strike of the highly anticipated 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin today. The new 24-karat (.9999 pure) gold coin is a modern version of what many call the most beautiful gold piece ever created-Augustus Saint-Gaudens' 1907 Double Eagle. The United States Mint will begin taking orders for the new collectible gold coin early next year.
United States Mint Director Ed Moy struck the first coin, which will be transferred to the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History. He struck a second coin as an addition to the United States Mint's heritage assets.
"This gold ultra high relief coin, evoking Augustus Saint-Gaudens' 1907 Double Eagle with Liberty striding forward, is one of the world's most beautiful coins," Director Moy told the crowd. "The United States Mint is proud to render the vision of President Theodore Roosevelt and Augustus Saint-Gaudens in a way that honors our past and raises the bar for the future. One hundred years from now, I believe the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin will be remembered as the birth of the greatest American century in coin-making history."
In the early 1900s, President Roosevelt called for a "renaissance" in American coinage. He thought the coins of that era were unattractive and wanted them to embody the national identity of the United States and its preeminence on the world stage. Roosevelt chose Augustus Saint-Gaudens to redesign America's coins. Saint-Gaudens was a renowned sculptor and artist who shared the President's vision for expressing America's national identity visually through art. However, despite Saint-Gaudens' masterful design for a $20 gold piece with ultra high relief, it could not be mass produced using the technology of that era.
Now, aided by advancements in technology, the United States Mint can produce, in quantity, the ultra high relief coin envisioned, but never fully realized, by Roosevelt and Saint-Gaudens in 1907. Through
21st century technology, original Saint-Gaudens coin plasters were digitally mapped by the United States Mint. The Saint-Gaudens sculpture - in ultra high relief - has been updated to reflect the year 2009; four stars have been added to represent the current 50 states; and the inscription IN GOD WE TRUST, which was not on the 1907 version, will be on the reverse (tails side) of the coin. Additionally, a small border was added for a more consistent edge. The 2009 coin will be made of 24-karat gold. The new 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin will have the nominal denomination of $20.
The sales price for the coin has not been determined; it will depend, in part, on prevailing world gold prices. It will be available early next year via the United States Mint's Web Site at www.usmint.gov or by phone at 1-800-USA-MINT.
Mint Link
(Just think of city streets clogged with a hundred thousand horses each generating 15 lbs of manure every day...)
<< <i>The 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin closes one chapter of American coin design and begins a new one. >>
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<< <i>If there's a very low mintage I suggest that the mint use this thread (in the order of posts) to dole them out. Of course the bully of gold will have to leave some for the rest of us. >>
The bully of gold, eh??
Watch that Modern Mint stuff bully!!!!! don't let it bite you in the rear
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>If there's a very low mintage I suggest that the mint use this thread (in the order of posts) to dole them out. Of course the bully of gold will have to leave some for the rest of us. >>
The bully of gold, eh??
Watch that Modern Mint stuff bully!!!!! don't let it bite you in the rear >>
Who said that I was the bully of gold????
LMAO!!!
<< <i>I'm proud to have had some tiny role in the new gold coin and in the Director's interest in a Renaissance of American Coinage. I was unable to attend the First Strike ceremony due to work commitments, but did participate by telephone in the CCAC meeting that followed.
RWB >>
What's a "tiny" role encompass, RWB?? That's sounds very cool!!!
Director Moy
NY Times
Century Later, Gold Coin Reflects Sculptor’s Vision
By MATTHEW HEALEY
Published: November 24, 2008
WEST POINT, N.Y. — With the push of a button and some 60 tons of pressure, a blank gold disc was converted into an ultra-high-relief coin at the branch of the United States Mint here Monday, and a century-old vision for America’s coinage was finally fully realized.
Producing the $20 coins, initially conceived by the American sculptor Augustus Saint-Gaudens in 1907, has been a personal goal of the mint’s director, Edmund C. Moy, since he was appointed in 2006. “Saint-Gaudens was a bit of a poet and wanted to tell a story,” Mr. Moy said at a ceremony Monday at the branch, where the new coin was first struck. “Liberty has visited America and is now marching into the rest of the world, led by enlightenment. America’s best days are ahead.”
In President Theodore Roosevelt’s opinion, those ideals weren’t embodied by existing coins, and he commissioned his friend Saint-Gaudens to come up with fresh designs.
His vision for the coin, known as a double eagle (it was twice the value of the $10 coin known as the eagle), was hailed by Roosevelt and others as a classical masterpiece. A full figure representing Liberty strides toward the viewer, torch raised, hair flowing and robes billowing, one foot on a promontory while the sun rises over the Capitol dome behind her. The reverse shows an eagle in flight over a blazing sun. The coin’s mastery lay chiefly in two trademarks of the sculptor’s style, typical of his medals: the comparatively high relief and the graceful incorporation of lettering in the design.
But one crucial person was not enamored: Charles Barber, chief engraver of the United States Mint at the time and a designer himself of several coins then in circulation — those Roosevelt and much of the public so disliked. According to Alison Frankel’s 2006 book, “Double Eagle,” Barber fought for his turf and did little to smooth the way for Saint-Gaudens’s designs.
Barber’s main critique was that the coin’s exceptionally high relief made production impossibly slow and difficult, and he had a point. In early tests up to 11 strikes per coin were required to bring out all the details. A variation using a smaller but thicker blank had to be abandoned because such a change would need Congressional approval.
Barber then remade the coin in a considerably flatter version that would work for high-volume production. The following year, 1908, Congress insisted that the motto “In God We Trust” be added. Roosevelt, a religious man, considered it inappropriate to put the name of God on money, and had told Saint-Gaudens (who died in August 1907 before production began) to omit it. The motto was inserted, somewhat incongruously, on the coin’s reverse, between the sun and its rays. This version circulated until 1933, when President Franklin D. Roosevelt, as part of his response to the Depression, banned hoarding of gold.
Today, the 1907 ultra-high relief $20 trial pieces are highly prized by collectors, not only for their beauty but also for their rarity. Fewer than two dozen survive, and they command six- and seven-figure prices. A circulated flat-relief version, containing a little less than an ounce of gold, typically sells for $800 to $1,200.
The double eagle is still generally considered the most beautiful American coin ever made. “We haven’t been as thoughtful with all our coin designs in the modern era,” Mr. Moy said after the ceremony, adding that he hoped to introduce modern coins that were beautiful, high-tech and uniquely American.
In the 1980s the mint began producing gold bullion coins that revived the flat-relief design on one side, in one-ounce sizes and smaller, for investors.
The newest coins, slightly more than an inch in diameter, use the smaller, thicker blanks rejected in 1907, are dated MMIX (2009), and contain exactly an ounce of 24-karat gold. The original coins were larger in size and contained 22-karat gold, hard enough to withstand circulation, but Mr. Moy, said modern investors prefer pure gold, which also has the benefit of being soft enough to turn into ultra-high relief coins.
The first $20 coin will be placed in the National Museum of American History of the Smithsonian Institution. The rest, which will be produced for only a year, go on sale to collectors and investors in January, at a price still to be determined, based largely on the current bullion price of gold. (On Monday afternoon it was about $824 an ounce in New York.)
Though the new coin is largely faithful to Saint-Gaudens’s vision, in one respect it won’t resemble the original: the reverse still reads “In God We Trust.”
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It seems quite small, maybe the size of a US quarter?
Thanks,
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<< <i>If there's a very low mintage I suggest that the mint use this thread (in the order of posts) to dole them out. Of course the bully of gold will have to leave some for the rest of us. >>
The bully of gold, eh??
Watch that Modern Mint stuff bully!!!!! don't let it bite you in the rear >>
Who said that I was the bully of gold????
LMAO!!! >>
Alright!!!! bonus check coming in January.. I am all in on the Mint Gold
<< <i>The press release is a wee bit deceitful. The 1907 coin was made of 90% Au / 10% Cu. That's a lot more difficult to strike up than the 24KT gold for the 2009 coin. >>
Only 10% more difficult.
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Are they making these in business strikes and proofs?
Coin's for sale/trade.
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<< <i>I've been wondering what 'type' this coin will be considered. Is it a new type of double eagle or bullion? >>
It is both. One doesn't necessarily preclude the other.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
There are not supposed to be any other surface versions.
<< <i>As I understand it, the coins will be struck multiple times from fresh dies. This is similar to the process used in the early 20th century to make "satin" proof gold and certain Peace dollars. (This is what was once called "Roman finish" largely because Walter Breen didn’t know how the coins were made, so he invented a meaningless name.)
There are not supposed to be any other surface versions. >>
Love it, RWB!!!!
Can't wait for my UHR in hand!!!!
<< <i>I am going to hoard these like my grandchildren will fear having them seized.
I am going to hoard these at $1200 per ounce.
I am going to hoard these like there is no other alternative!
Nice pics!!
Miles >>
I love Miles!!!!
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<< <i>The 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin will be available for sale to the public in January 2009. >>
<< <i>
<< <i>I am going to hoard these like my grandchildren will fear having them seized.
I am going to hoard these at $1200 per ounce.
I am going to hoard these like there is no other alternative!
I am going to hoard these suckers like bullion!
I am going to hoard these like Glocks in a New York Night Club VIP room!
Nice pics!!
Miles >>
I love Miles!!!!
If fear of 'late acqusition' or Alarm Clock failure sets in, just reserve a few at MCM. Can't hurt.......
If you can't forage and hoard, what's the point of 50,000 years of evo??
Capiche?
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Now those are some nice pics.
<< <i>That box looks enormous! I wonder if it's to scale with the coins?
Probably add a couple hundred to the price for the packaging... >>
When I first saw the box, I was thinking if they'd sell those in rolls
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It would be very cool if some of those progression and feasibility strikes made it into the hands of private collectors.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>I am going to hoard these like my grandchildren will fear having them seized.
I am going to hoard these at $1200 per ounce.
I am going to hoard these like there is no other alternative!
I am going to hoard these suckers like bullion!
I am going to hoard these like Glocks in a New York Night Club VIP room!
Nice pics!!
Miles >>
I love Miles!!!!
If fear of 'late acqusition' or Alarm Clock failure sets in, just reserve a few at MCM. Can't hurt.......
If you can't forage and hoard, what's the point of 50,000 years of evo??
Capiche? >>
Capiche!!!!!!!
<< <i>Without reading through the whole thread, is there a release date for the coin. I need to take that day off. >>
Per the Mint's latest PR(11/24/08): "The sales price for the coin has not been determined; it will depend, in part, on prevailing world gold prices. It will be available early next year via the United States Mint's Web Site at www.usmint.gov or by phone at 1-800-USA-MINT."
<< <i>Mike is that how big it is on the fellow's gloved hand?
Yup, Joe.
BTW, that's RWB's boss.....Mint Director Moy!!!
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<< <i>Mike is that how big it is on the fellow's gloved hand?
Yup, Joe.
BTW, that's RWB's boss.....Mint Director Moy!!!
Are you buying?
There are so many reasons to purchase this issue.
I hope the premium is reasonable....I want at least 5 pieces.
<< <i>4 weeks and counting.........
Are you buying?
There are so many reasons to purchase this issue.
I hope the premium is reasonable....I want at least 5 pieces. >>
Nope, not buying with a unlimited mintage. Like the First Spouse coins they will end up near melt value.
<< <i>Nope, not buying with a unlimited mintage. Like the First Spouse coins they will end up near melt value. >>
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire