<< <i>There are only 120 listings now 58 are buy it now (half of them) 20 will end by tonight You figure out the numbers >>
The focus should be on prices......less listings do not equal higher prices.... >>
True, but it would seem that if the number of auctions continues to go down prices should begin to creep up again, or at least hold steady IMO. I still think it's a long term play and will be very interested to see what happens in 1 year, 2 yrs, etc.
If everything runs smoothly, I should be able to make over $1700 (after all the cash back, and all of the sales have settled. the only thing that still in question are the two 70's I'm selling. Hopefully, they'll sell soon).
After that...it's a question of how many 70's I want. At least 3. Possibly as many as 5.
here's another NGC MS70 in tonight's (Monday's) TeleTrade auction..
as i type this, it's been bid up to $675.00 with about two hours to go.. (this is NOT one of the ones that got bid up to $1000.00 and didn't sell last night.. they don't do their automatic re-listing the very next auction.. this is the only 08/07 in tonight's auction..
remember, $675.00, if that's as high as it goes, is not the final price.. to that, add their 12% "juice" plus sales tax (if the buyer is in CA or NY. plus shipping, which is based on the final price)..
there are two PCGS 70s in their upcoming 02 July, 2008 auction, and two NGC 70s in their upcoming 09 July, 2008 auction (those latter two COULD be the two that didn't sell last night)..
you don't have to be a TeleTrade member to look at their online catalogs, individual lots, or do searches for realized prices (within the past 60 days).. you DO have to be a registered member (and logged in).. to bid, and to search realized prices back farther than 60 days.. in fact, you can search back over ten years.. every coin they have ever sold is still online and searchable..).. registration is free.. you don't have to put a CC on file, and other than being a long-time customer, (and winner of a free NGC MS65 Saint in a random chance post-auction drawing about 2002 or 2003).. i have no relationship of any kind with TeleTrade or whoever owns them this week)..
Harv
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on.. I don't do these things to other people.. I require the same of them.." - John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
An unopened mint sealed box of 20 2008 rev 07's sold on eBay last night for $2036. They were ordered 3 hours before my order on April 17th and shipped on May 7, the same day my order shipped. (14 out of 15 rev 07). I was tempted to take a shot at it but wasn't excited about having 20 2008/08's in inventory at $103 each. I've been lucky enough on this one. I'd sure like to find out what the outcome turns out to be so if any of you know ebayer dustin2121 check it out.
KP
oops...sorry my optimism got to me.. .the item sold was an unopened box of 2008-W Silver Eagles from the mint that could possibly contain the elusive 2008 rev 2007. A pretty big gamble......
<< <i>An unopened mint sealed box of 20 2008 rev 07's sold on eBay last night for $2036. >>
if it's unopened and Mint-sealed.. then it would be more accurate to say "possibly containing any number from zero to 20 to 2008 Reverse of 2007s".. the seller and the buyer can't possibly know what's in it until / unless it's opened, unless they have x-ray vision.. so it could contain anything from about $520.00 worth of coins to over $10,000 worth.. eh?.. the seller will never know unless the buyer tells him.. and the buyer can tell him the truth or make up any story he wants.. so he gambled over two grand and if he opens it, it'll either be party time, or "find me a horse while i throw this rope over a tree branch"..
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on.. I don't do these things to other people.. I require the same of them.." - John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
<< <i>An unopened mint sealed box of 20 2008 rev 07's sold on eBay last night for $2036. They were ordered 3 hours before my order on April 17th and shipped on May 7, the same day my order shipped. (14 out of 15 rev 07). I was tempted to take a shot at it but wasn't excited about having 20 2008/08's in inventory at $103 each. I've been lucky enough on this one. I'd sure like to find out what the outcome turns out to be so if any of you know ebayer dustin2121 check it out.
KP >>
Wow...it would be interesting to hear of the outcome!
DOH!!! No more Cash Back program...oh well. I'd milked it as much as I could. I just pulled the listing for my 2 70's ER's. The question now is, how much of my remaining stash do I want to sell?
<< <i>DOH!!! No more Cash Back program...oh well. I'd milked it as much as I could. I just pulled the listing for my 2 70's ER's. The question now is, how much of my remaining stash do I want to sell? >>
Tony, you sure sound like a nice guy.
But, does your mind get ahead of itself when you post these errant statements???
God help you!!! And God help us understand Tony!!!
I kinda like Tony.I get a chuckle out of him anymore when i read his posts.For those who don't like Tony.i don't believe there is anyone twisting your arm to read his posts.
There have been around 15,000 total slabbed by all services. So is 47,000 total correct?? I guess it depends on how you view things. I'd say to have 1/3 of a series slabbed within 90 days of its release/discovery is pretty a good % lending support to the 47,000 total reported number. I think there are still a lot of raw coins out there...........I had 57 still raw up until last week. Since then 19 submitted, 20 sold raw, 18 still raw.
I feel the first strikes are what they are going to be. The others should move up a little bit but not much. Anybody that has a 70 in first strike or regular 08 rev 07 should hold on to them to reap some good money down the road.
Just fyi, I spoke to the three B&M dealers yesterday. Coast not buying right now. Chattanooga take raws for 500, 69's for 475 and 70 for 650. Modern coin mart taking raw and 69's for 440, the don't sell 70's so they don't buy them.
if you wanna sell, looks like chattanooga's the best deal now.
btw, 25% cash back is up again. I've been doing some flipping with gold coins now (much safer. I can sell them at a local dealer for a nice little 10-15% profit.) Once I'm done with all this, get 70's ER...averaging at ridiculously low prices.
<< <i>Just fyi, I spoke to the three B&M dealers yesterday. Coast not buying right now. Chattanooga take raws for 500, 69's for 475 and 70 for 650. Modern coin mart taking raw and 69's for 440, the don't sell 70's so they don't buy them.
if you wanna sell, looks like chattanooga's the best deal now.
btw, 25% cash back is up again. I've been doing some flipping with gold coins now (much safer. I can sell them at a local dealer for a nice little 10-15% profit.) Once I'm done with all this, get 70's ER...averaging at ridiculously low prices. >>
Why in the world would someone send them 69's then? Just crack them out and you make $25 a piece.....
<< <i>Jeez, I never really expected to be a coin dealer...oh well, whatever's going to fuel this obsession, I guess I'll try.
I'll write more later...I need to get to work now. >>
You are a long way away from being a "Coin Dealer" Mr. Koo. What you have become, is a "Flipper" which is not a bad thing but it certainly is not a Coin Dealer.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>Just fyi, I spoke to the three B&M dealers yesterday. Coast not buying right now. Chattanooga take raws for 500, 69's for 475 and 70 for 650. Modern coin mart taking raw and 69's for 440, the don't sell 70's so they don't buy them.
if you wanna sell, looks like chattanooga's the best deal now.
btw, 25% cash back is up again. I've been doing some flipping with gold coins now (much safer. I can sell them at a local dealer for a nice little 10-15% profit.) Once I'm done with all this, get 70's ER...averaging at ridiculously low prices. >>
Why in the world would someone send them 69's then? Just crack them out and you make $25 a piece..... >>
Perhaps the $25 covers paying for the box and COA?
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>Just fyi, I spoke to the three B&M dealers yesterday. Coast not buying right now. Chattanooga take raws for 500, 69's for 475 and 70 for 650. Modern coin mart taking raw and 69's for 440, the don't sell 70's so they don't buy them.
if you wanna sell, looks like chattanooga's the best deal now.
btw, 25% cash back is up again. I've been doing some flipping with gold coins now (much safer. I can sell them at a local dealer for a nice little 10-15% profit.) Once I'm done with all this, get 70's ER...averaging at ridiculously low prices. >>
Why in the world would someone send them 69's then? Just crack them out and you make $25 a piece.....
-Paul >>
I actually asked him about that. He said that with raws, he could still get them graded and he might ge a 70 out of it. with 69's, he know he's stuck with 69. It's too late for me to crack them open now since I also told him that I had 6 raws before the conversation even started...
<< <i>Jeez, I never really expected to be a coin dealer...oh well, whatever's going to fuel this obsession, I guess I'll try.
I'll write more later...I need to get to work now. >>
You are a long way away from being a "Coin Dealer" Mr. Koo. What you have become, is a "Flipper" which is not a bad thing but it certainly is not a Coin Dealer. >>
Hm...that could be true...maybe you can call me a "coin trader" instead...taking advantage of MicroSoft...stickin' it to the man...
<< <i>Just fyi, I spoke to the three B&M dealers yesterday. Coast not buying right now. Chattanooga take raws for 500, 69's for 475 and 70 for 650. Modern coin mart taking raw and 69's for 440, the don't sell 70's so they don't buy them.
if you wanna sell, looks like chattanooga's the best deal now.
btw, 25% cash back is up again. I've been doing some flipping with gold coins now (much safer. I can sell them at a local dealer for a nice little 10-15% profit.) Once I'm done with all this, get 70's ER...averaging at ridiculously low prices. >>
You mention a 25% cash back thing. Who is giving that?
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
In the long run, are the 70's actually going to pull ahead of the 69's? It seems like, at least for now, the 69's are actually worth more (I can make more of a profit by selling 69's than 70's). Is this going to change???
Man, my head's spinning...14 transactions in 3 days. 4 ebay accounts, 4 email accounts, 2 ms live cashback accounts. 10 cashbacks expected.
4 coins shipped off to one dealer, payment still expecting. 6 coins still expected, to be shipped off with another one to another dealer. 2 gold coins expected, to be sold to a local dealer. just sold one ms 70 on ebay (I helped the guy with the cash back program). bought another 2 MS 70's to replace coins I sold. I might buy another one or two....
<< <i>114 Listing on Ebay for 2008 reverse 2007. Good morning everyone! >>
wow, down to 114?
This says a couple things IMO. Either, 1) Demand is falling because most who want one have one
OR
2) Supply is drying up because of the limited number out there.
Hard to believe the supply is dry with all the coins we know are out there and graded. Must be the drop in prices that is keeping everyone from selling.
Comments
ren
<< <i>Good luck, Tony! I think we are all starting to like you. >>
hey, don't jump to conclusions.
question...are all of the 188 tony-posts on this one thread?
Ren
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<< <i>Good luck, Tony! I think we are all starting to like you. >>
hey, don't jump to conclusions.
question...are all of the 188 tony-posts on this one thread?
Ren >>
We went through that a few pages ago
<< <i>There are only 120 listings now
58 are buy it now (half of them)
20 will end by tonight
You figure out the numbers >>
The focus should be on prices......less listings do not equal higher prices....
<< <i>
<< <i>There are only 120 listings now
58 are buy it now (half of them)
20 will end by tonight
You figure out the numbers >>
The focus should be on prices......less listings do not equal higher prices....
True, but it would seem that if the number of auctions continues to go down prices should begin to creep up again,
or at least hold steady IMO. I still think it's a long term play and will be very interested to see what happens in 1 year,
2 yrs, etc.
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After that...it's a question of how many 70's I want. At least 3. Possibly as many as 5.
as i type this, it's been bid up to $675.00 with about two hours to go.. (this is NOT one of the ones that got bid up to $1000.00 and didn't sell last night.. they don't do their automatic re-listing the very next auction.. this is the only 08/07 in tonight's auction..
click this bunch of words
remember, $675.00, if that's as high as it goes, is not the final price.. to that, add their 12% "juice" plus sales tax (if the buyer is in CA or NY. plus shipping, which is based on the final price)..
there are two PCGS 70s in their upcoming 02 July, 2008 auction, and two NGC 70s in their upcoming 09 July, 2008 auction (those latter two COULD be the two that didn't sell last night)..
you don't have to be a TeleTrade member to look at their online catalogs, individual lots, or do searches for realized prices (within the past 60 days).. you DO have to be a registered member (and logged in).. to bid, and to search realized prices back farther than 60 days.. in fact, you can search back over ten years.. every coin they have ever sold is still online and searchable..).. registration is free.. you don't have to put a CC on file, and other than being a long-time customer, (and winner of a free NGC MS65 Saint in a random chance post-auction drawing about 2002 or 2003).. i have no relationship of any kind with TeleTrade or whoever owns them this week)..
Harv
- John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
KP
oops...sorry my optimism got to me.. .the item sold was an unopened box of 2008-W Silver Eagles from the mint that could possibly contain the elusive 2008 rev 2007. A pretty big gamble......
<< <i>An unopened mint sealed box of 20 2008 rev 07's sold on eBay last night for $2036. >>
if it's unopened and Mint-sealed.. then it would be more accurate to say "possibly containing any number from zero to 20 to 2008 Reverse of 2007s".. the seller and the buyer can't possibly know what's in it until / unless it's opened, unless they have x-ray vision.. so it could contain anything from about $520.00 worth of coins to over $10,000 worth.. eh?.. the seller will never know unless the buyer tells him.. and the buyer can tell him the truth or make up any story he wants.. so he gambled over two grand and if he opens it, it'll either be party time, or "find me a horse while i throw this rope over a tree branch"..
- John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
<< <i>An unopened mint sealed box of 20 2008 rev 07's sold on eBay last night for $2036. They were ordered 3 hours before my order on April 17th and shipped on May 7, the same day my order shipped. (14 out of 15 rev 07). I was tempted to take a shot at it but wasn't excited about having 20 2008/08's in inventory at $103 each. I've been lucky enough on this one. I'd sure like to find out what the outcome turns out to be so if any of you know ebayer dustin2121 check it out.
KP >>
Wow...it would be interesting to hear of the outcome!
<< <i>DOH!!! No more Cash Back program...oh well. I'd milked it as much as I could. I just pulled the listing for my 2 70's ER's. The question now is, how much of my remaining stash do I want to sell? >>
Tony, you sure sound like a nice guy.
But, does your mind get ahead of itself when you post these errant statements???
God help you!!! And God help us understand Tony!!!
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<< <i>This thread has almost turned into two separate threads....John Nanney's discovery thread and Tony's Stream-of-Consciousness posts >>
Ditto
And it has triggered some pretty good laughs . . . as well as some laborious reading . . .
<< <i>John Nanney's discovery thread and Tony's Stream-of-Consciousness posts >>
118 listings
50 BIN
26 ending today
42 auction
08 rev 08 5-68's 5279-69's 875-70's increase 0f 25
08 rev 07 10-68's 841-69's 56-70's increase of 102
08 rev 07 !st str 1-68 1482-69's 165-70's no change
Not much change guy's, This is looking good for the future of these coins.
<< <i>
<< <i>John Nanney's discovery thread and Tony's Stream-of-Consciousness posts >>
I'll write more later...I need to get to work now.
Is the 47,000 mintage considered pretty accurate?
There have been around 15,000 total slabbed by all services.
So is 47,000 total correct?? I guess it depends on how you view things.
I'd say to have 1/3 of a series slabbed within 90 days of its release/discovery is pretty a good % lending support to the 47,000 total reported number.
I think there are still a lot of raw coins out there...........I had 57 still raw up until last week.
Since then 19 submitted, 20 sold raw, 18 still raw.
if you wanna sell, looks like chattanooga's the best deal now.
btw, 25% cash back is up again. I've been doing some flipping with gold coins now (much safer. I can sell them at a local dealer for a nice little 10-15% profit.) Once I'm done with all this, get 70's ER...averaging at ridiculously low prices.
<< <i>Just fyi, I spoke to the three B&M dealers yesterday. Coast not buying right now. Chattanooga take raws for 500, 69's for 475 and 70 for 650. Modern coin mart taking raw and 69's for 440, the don't sell 70's so they don't buy them.
if you wanna sell, looks like chattanooga's the best deal now.
btw, 25% cash back is up again. I've been doing some flipping with gold coins now (much safer. I can sell them at a local dealer for a nice little 10-15% profit.) Once I'm done with all this, get 70's ER...averaging at ridiculously low prices.
Why in the world would someone send them 69's then? Just crack them out and you make $25 a piece.....
-Paul
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>John Nanney's discovery thread and Tony's Stream-of-Consciousness posts >>
<< <i>Jeez, I never really expected to be a coin dealer...oh well, whatever's going to fuel this obsession, I guess I'll try.
I'll write more later...I need to get to work now.
You are a long way away from being a "Coin Dealer" Mr. Koo. What you have become, is a "Flipper" which is not a bad thing but it certainly is not a Coin Dealer.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>
<< <i>Just fyi, I spoke to the three B&M dealers yesterday. Coast not buying right now. Chattanooga take raws for 500, 69's for 475 and 70 for 650. Modern coin mart taking raw and 69's for 440, the don't sell 70's so they don't buy them.
if you wanna sell, looks like chattanooga's the best deal now.
btw, 25% cash back is up again. I've been doing some flipping with gold coins now (much safer. I can sell them at a local dealer for a nice little 10-15% profit.) Once I'm done with all this, get 70's ER...averaging at ridiculously low prices.
Why in the world would someone send them 69's then? Just crack them out and you make $25 a piece..... >>
Perhaps the $25 covers paying for the box and COA?
The name is LEE!
<< <i>
<< <i>Just fyi, I spoke to the three B&M dealers yesterday. Coast not buying right now. Chattanooga take raws for 500, 69's for 475 and 70 for 650. Modern coin mart taking raw and 69's for 440, the don't sell 70's so they don't buy them.
if you wanna sell, looks like chattanooga's the best deal now.
btw, 25% cash back is up again. I've been doing some flipping with gold coins now (much safer. I can sell them at a local dealer for a nice little 10-15% profit.) Once I'm done with all this, get 70's ER...averaging at ridiculously low prices.
Why in the world would someone send them 69's then? Just crack them out and you make $25 a piece.....
-Paul >>
I actually asked him about that. He said that with raws, he could still get them graded and he might ge a 70 out of it. with 69's, he know he's stuck with 69. It's too late for me to crack them open now since I also told him that I had 6 raws before the conversation even started...
<< <i>
<< <i>Jeez, I never really expected to be a coin dealer...oh well, whatever's going to fuel this obsession, I guess I'll try.
I'll write more later...I need to get to work now.
You are a long way away from being a "Coin Dealer" Mr. Koo. What you have become, is a "Flipper" which is not a bad thing but it certainly is not a Coin Dealer. >>
Hm...that could be true...maybe you can call me a "coin trader" instead...taking advantage of MicroSoft...stickin' it to the man...
A few 2008-W MS69
A few 2008-W Reverse of 2007 MS69
A few 2008-W MS70
2 2008-W Reverse of 2007 MS70
Not too bad. I wish the numbers were reversed on the 2008-W and 2008-W reverse of 2007 MS70 coins though.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Just fyi, I spoke to the three B&M dealers yesterday. Coast not buying right now. Chattanooga take raws for 500, 69's for 475 and 70 for 650. Modern coin mart taking raw and 69's for 440, the don't sell 70's so they don't buy them.
if you wanna sell, looks like chattanooga's the best deal now.
btw, 25% cash back is up again. I've been doing some flipping with gold coins now (much safer. I can sell them at a local dealer for a nice little 10-15% profit.) Once I'm done with all this, get 70's ER...averaging at ridiculously low prices.
You mention a 25% cash back thing. Who is giving that?
<< <i>I got my grades today on my most recent submission.
A few 2008-W MS69
A few 2008-W Reverse of 2007 MS69
A few 2008-W MS70
2 2008-W Reverse of 2007 MS70
Not too bad. I wish the numbers were reversed on the 2008-W and 2008-W reverse of 2007 MS70 coins though. >>
Nice!!, were these PCGS or ATS??
<< <i>You mention a 25% cash back thing. Who is giving that? >>
Try this link:
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=xbox&form=QBRE
but it might change by time you get to it.
Try this link to get more background info. Its being sponsored by MicroSoft:
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/838081/
It only works with buy it now items.
<< <i>
<< <i>I got my grades today on my most recent submission.
A few 2008-W MS69
A few 2008-W Reverse of 2007 MS69
A few 2008-W MS70
2 2008-W Reverse of 2007 MS70
Not too bad. I wish the numbers were reversed on the 2008-W and 2008-W reverse of 2007 MS70 coins though. >>
Nice!!, were these PCGS or ATS?? >>
They are all PCGS non-first strike.
4 coins shipped off to one dealer, payment still expecting.
6 coins still expected, to be shipped off with another one to another dealer.
2 gold coins expected, to be sold to a local dealer.
just sold one ms 70 on ebay (I helped the guy with the cash back program).
bought another 2 MS 70's to replace coins I sold.
I might buy another one or two....
<< <i>TonyWKoo, do you have any inner monolog at all? >>
What is like in his head? It's probably like the Grinch deciding on whether or not to go to the Who-villation.
Ren
<< <i>TonyWKoo, do you have any inner monolog at all? >>
Considering the lack of activity here lately, maybe it's better if less people have "inner monolog"
<< <i>I got my grades today on my most recent submission.
A few 2008-W MS69
A few 2008-W Reverse of 2007 MS69
A few 2008-W MS70
2 2008-W Reverse of 2007 MS70
Not too bad. I wish the numbers were reversed on the 2008-W and 2008-W reverse of 2007 MS70 coins though. >>
Hey, Congrats on the grades, you studied a lot harder than me,,,
POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
<< <i>4545 >>
<< <i>Here is a submission that just got published >>
Jesse- that order number is not coming up for me on the shared orders page. How did they do?
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<< <i>114 Listing on Ebay for 2008 reverse 2007. Good morning everyone!
wow, down to 114?
This says a couple things IMO. Either,
1) Demand is falling because most who want one have one
OR
2) Supply is drying up because of the limited number out there.
Hard to believe the supply is dry with all the coins we know are out there and graded.
Must be the drop in prices that is keeping everyone from selling.
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Try this link
I think that is great compared to this submission
250 coins and not a single 70
WOW