<< <i>No problem. My wife is literally due any day now and we have been running around getting everything squared away with that. We drove 3 hours round trip today to pick up a glider-rocker chair she just had to have. My dad told me to just do what she says and I'll be OK.
A happy mother is a happy home is what he keeps telling me...
THANKS Jesse for the updates -- and yes, get some sleep NOW. We should relish in your stat's since we may not see you much soon!
Your stat's articulate clearly what is to be an obvious supply vs demand show of simple economics. I still believe scarcity is the issue here and not market saturation. It will not surprise me in the least if the FOIA suggests the possibility of a lower mintage than 47k (if it suggests anything at all). The bottoming and upswing in prices at the lowest point in the year (summer) tells the story. Hold on to your hat this fall when the BUY is on!
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
<< <i>Alright!!! Finally back on topic! Hey Jess...thanks for the dump! What's a sepculator? >>
It's someone who can not spell.
As for these great coins, I have three of them that have fingerprints on them. I got them directly from the US Mint, I wonder if they are from the person that was minting them... I wonder if I could take them down to the police station and have the police run them. I would imagine that every US Mint worker has been fingerprinted.... I could try to get a TPG to generate a unique slab for them. They are all in the exact same place too. On the reverse of the coin above the left wing of the eagle.
I've got one too (fingerprint) on one of my wonderful NGC ms69 ER slabs [ug] -- how'd it make it to 69 I ask?
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
<< <i>There are an awful lot of listings ending tomorrow. We could see them down in the 40s by tomorrow night. >>
I count 76 auctions with 34 ending by midnight tomorrow.
That leaves 42 plus any new listings.
Now a FOIA report of 30,000 released would be just the thing to start a new week.
Did anyone gve John Nanney a "You Suck" recently?
Rookie Joe
Edited for usual spelling etc. >>
30,00 way too high... this board led to a lot of publicity to enter the 2008/07 sweeps..that could have led to a vast majority graded and already counted as known
Thanks for everyone's input. Special thanks goes out to Jessewvu for all the time and effort put forth in the makings of these charts and to Lope for his efforts as well. Both of you are to be commended.
To this day I have yet to pull a listing once bidding has begun - but for the first time I found myself having serious second thoughts as to why I even listed it at all, no more- no less.
In the last 5 years that I've been at this, on ebay, I've seen items go from small amounts to good money literally within the last few seconds, many times. Once an item is up I just live with whatever happens and find that in the end things do have a way of balancing themselves out.
Thanks again for your opinions and thoughts as well as your monumental efforts.
wha ...huh!? whats up!??? Darn ...i was dreaming that the FOIA cameback with less thank 40K minted and even less than that got out of the mint. thanks for waking me up Pitboss.
I was trying to make a Cashback purchase and can't seem to get it to work today -- anyone else have a problem?
[on a 08/07, of course...]
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
Seriously, though. I would have used it had I been in the market for a high budget coin (i.e. another 08/07) but I'm not right now. So I haven't even bothered on small items.
No FOIA info yet....check hasn't posted yet either. They were probably surprised to see the check show up in the mail just a few days after they sent that letter to me So now they're feverishly copying records and busting out the Sharpies.
OK, I made it in to Cashback -- nailed a couple of raws on BIN @ 20% rebate. Final price will be $360 each -- not bad!
Sometimes it works simple, other times it takes some patience.
Refs: MCM,Fivecents,Julio,Robman,Endzone,Coiny,Agentjim007,Musky1011,holeinone1972,Tdec1000,Type2,bumanchu, Metalsman,Wondercoin,Pitboss,Tomohawk,carew4me,segoja,thebigeng,jlc_coin,mbogoman,sportsmod,dragon,tychojoe,Schmitz7,claychaser, Bullsitter, robeck, Nickpatton, jwitten, and many OTHERS
Two PCGS 69's not 1st strikes sold on Teletrade tonight for $550 plus juices, and there are a few 1st strikes on ebay for $560 with free shipping of course BIN's. So what's up with this?
<< <i>Two PCGS 69's not 1st strikes sold on Teletrade tonight for $550 plus juices, and there are a few 1st strikes on ebay for $560 with free shipping of course BIN's. So what's up with this? >>
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
Has anyone noticed this doesn't have a price when you enter them into your registry? Better yet, does anyone have an idea how long it takes for a price to show up on a new coin like this in the registry?
I wish I could attend. There sure are a lot of questions to be asked. Hopefully somebody from the forum will be able to attend and ask the right questions.
I finally picked one up (PCGS MS69). It's not that I really wanted one, I just got tired of following this thread without feeling like a member of the club!
Last year i bought 100 2007 w's to flip,they are sitting in my closet still sealed in the boxes,so this year i told myself not to buy them again to flip just to have money tied up in my closet.Well,just for heck of it,i ordered 5 just to have and wouldn't you know it,i get 5 reverse's.If those 2007-w's would have gone up and i sold them,i would have ordered 100 of the 2008's.Hmmmm,would i have gotten all reverses,some one slap me.
I ordered (20) and (25) , (2) and (3) 2008 ASE "w" unc on subscription. they all came in early on release this year but I didn't get even one. The mint also sent my (20) 2007's unc at the same time?? they were backordered forever.
Ships are safe in harbor but thats not what ships were built for.
Remember I mentioned that I ordered a few more from the Mint last week just for fun?
Got them today. All 08/08's. This will be my first ever return to the Mint. And before all the ethics professors come out and yell and me, I was going to keep them, but 2 of the 3 capsules were completely apart with the coins rolling around the shipping box. It's ridiculous how bad the quality is this year. I have no patience for garbage.
<< <i>Remember I mentioned that I ordered a few more from the Mint last week just for fun?
Got them today. All 08/08's. This will be my first ever return to the Mint. And before all the ethics professors come out and yell and me, I was going to keep them, but 2 of the 3 capsules were completely apart with the coins rolling around the shipping box. It's ridiculous how bad the quality is this year. I have no patience for garbage. >>
<< <i>Remember I mentioned that I ordered a few more from the Mint last week just for fun?
Got them today. All 08/08's. This will be my first ever return to the Mint. And before all the ethics professors come out and yell and me, I was going to keep them, but 2 of the 3 capsules were completely apart with the coins rolling around the shipping box. It's ridiculous how bad the quality is this year. I have no patience for garbage. >>
how many times does this make that someone has reported ordering the 2008-Ws (in hopes of getting you know what).. and opening the box to find opened capsules with coins rolling around?.. doesn't this just reinforce the theory that the guys in Memphis were furiously tearing through boxes looking for the error coins and sloppily replacing them?.. maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, but reports similar to yours have been legion in this thread.. in what kind of box did they put the three little blue boxes?.. was it a huge, over-sized box with some half-deflated airbags inside?.. when they ship two -W ASEs, they come in a very thin, white cardboard box with a tear strip, so there's no room for the little blue boxes to fall open and the capsules to pop open at all.. but it seems like when they ship an order of more than two at a time, they use some ridiculously huge box and they're just banging around inside.. those airbags don't do much of anything.. so it's possible it was just simply a very sloppy packaging job, or it's also possible that the box was pre-packed, and put in the "there are three of them in this box" bin.. then ripped into, searched, the coins sloppily replaced, and then put into another box and sent on its merry way to you..
you shouldn't have any guilt about returning them if only for the reason that they arrived the way they did.. but in order to get your return shipping refunded, you have to check off a reason other than "changed my mind" or "arrived too late".. and they won't automatically refund your shipping if you check the "damaged" reason.. you have to call them and ask that your return shipping costs be refunded.. then wait a few weeks and eventually a check will show up in the mail.. otherwise, if you don't check "damaged" and follow it up with a phone call, they're just going to refund you $25.95 x 3 by the same method you paid for the order, (if you used plastic, you get a credit back to the plastic.. if you paid by check, you get a refund by check..) .. and that's it.. and no matter which box you check off as the reason you're returning them, even "damaged".. you don't get the original shipping (to you) charge refunded at all.. only the return (to them) shipping charge, and only if you call and ask for it..
maybe you already know all this stuff, in which case.. "nevermind"..
Harv
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on.. I don't do these things to other people.. I require the same of them.." - John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
Good advice hrlaser. I shipped back some bad 2007s last year and just ate the shipping on them.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't those who got the 100 count sealed boxes get 08/08? I thought the 07/08s were the ones ordered in smaller quantities. I also thought that most of the folks who have subscriptions did not get them either, that they started coming out when they got a bit deeper into the first run.
I'm sure this was answered 3000 or 4000 posts ago, but this is still a great topic and post!
I'd keep playing. I don't think the heavy stuff will be coming down for quite a while!
Comments
<< <i>No problem. My wife is literally due any day now and we have been running around getting everything squared away with that. We drove 3 hours round trip today to pick up a glider-rocker chair she just had to have. My dad told me to just do what she says and I'll be OK.
A happy mother is a happy home is what he keeps telling me...
The smartest thing I have heard on this forum.
Joe
my early American coins & currency: -- http://yankeedoodlecoins.com/
Your stat's articulate clearly what is to be an obvious supply vs demand show of simple economics. I still believe scarcity is the issue here and not market saturation. It will not surprise me in the least if the FOIA suggests the possibility of a lower mintage than 47k (if it suggests anything at all). The bottoming and upswing in prices at the lowest point in the year (summer) tells the story. Hold on to your hat this fall when the BUY is on!
<< <i>Alright!!! Finally back on topic! Hey Jess...thanks for the dump! What's a sepculator?
It's someone who can not spell.
As for these great coins, I have three of them that have fingerprints on them. I got them directly from the US Mint, I wonder if they are from the person that was minting them... I wonder if I could take them down to the police station and have the police run them. I would imagine that every US Mint worker has been fingerprinted.... I could try to get a TPG to generate a unique slab for them. They are all in the exact same place too. On the reverse of the coin above the left wing of the eagle.
<< <i>
<< <i>There are an awful lot of listings ending tomorrow. We could see them down in the 40s by tomorrow night. >>
I count 76 auctions with 34 ending by midnight tomorrow.
That leaves 42 plus any new listings.
Now a FOIA report of 30,000 released would be just the thing to start a new week.
Did anyone gve John Nanney a "You Suck" recently?
Rookie Joe
Edited for usual spelling etc. >>
30,00 way too high... this board led to a lot of publicity to enter the 2008/07 sweeps..that could have led to a vast majority graded and already counted as known
Thanks for everyone's input. Special thanks goes out to Jessewvu for all the time and effort put forth
in the makings of these charts and to Lope for his efforts as well. Both of you are to be commended.
To this day I have yet to pull a listing once bidding has begun - but for the first time I found myself
having serious second thoughts as to why I even listed it at all, no more- no less.
In the last 5 years that I've been at this, on ebay, I've seen items go from small amounts to good money
literally within the last few seconds, many times. Once an item is up I just live with whatever happens and
find that in the end things do have a way of balancing themselves out.
Thanks again for your opinions and thoughts as well as your monumental efforts.
<< <i>
<< <i>I don't have a clue Tony, but I am sure not going to try it. >>
You've got to admit, tt would be kind of a novelty to see. >>
Here's a thread I found with an eagle carried around for 4 1/2 years.
The name is LEE!
56 of them are buy it now.
[on a 08/07, of course...]
<< <i>I never could get it to work for me. >>
It was too many steps for me to follow
Seriously, though. I would have used it had I been in the market for a high budget coin (i.e. another 08/07) but I'm
not right now. So I haven't even bothered on small items.
No FOIA info yet....check hasn't posted yet either.
They were probably surprised to see the check show up in the mail just a few days after they sent that letter to me
So now they're feverishly copying records and busting out the Sharpies.
commoncents123, JrGMan2004, Coll3ctor (2), Dabigkahuna, BAJJERFAN, Boom, GRANDAM, newsman, cohodk, kklambo, seateddime, ajia, mirabela, Weather11am, keepdachange, gsa1fan, cone10
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Sometimes it works simple, other times it takes some patience.
<< <i>Two PCGS 69's not 1st strikes sold on Teletrade tonight for $550 plus juices, and there are a few 1st strikes on ebay for $560 with free shipping of course BIN's. So what's up with this? >>
Insanity????
$136.00 difference.
<< <i>I guess we should bring our FS over to Teletrade then???
Nah, forget teletrade, Ebay is still the best place to sell, I sold this one a few days ago....link
What's all the craze over less than $18.00 worth of silver ?
... we got a bunch of coin geeks here !
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
<< <i>
<< <i>I guess we should bring our FS over to Teletrade then???
Nah, forget teletrade, Ebay is still the best place to sell, I sold this one a few days ago....link
I am glad to see you get that for it. I have 11 just like it and am in a holding pattern until after the first of the year.
link to Mint info about Director questions
I was just wondering?.........am I rich yet??
Stefanie
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
.
Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
.
More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
I forgot to cancel so they shipped 100 to me. I was so close. I told the PO to return to sender so I'll never know if I would have had any or not.
they were backordered forever.
Got them today. All 08/08's. This will be my first ever return to the Mint. And before all the
ethics professors come out and yell and me, I was going to keep them, but 2 of the 3 capsules were
completely apart with the coins rolling around the shipping box. It's ridiculous how bad the quality is
this year. I have no patience for garbage.
commoncents123, JrGMan2004, Coll3ctor (2), Dabigkahuna, BAJJERFAN, Boom, GRANDAM, newsman, cohodk, kklambo, seateddime, ajia, mirabela, Weather11am, keepdachange, gsa1fan, cone10
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<< <i>Remember I mentioned that I ordered a few more from the Mint last week just for fun?
Got them today. All 08/08's. This will be my first ever return to the Mint. And before all the
ethics professors come out and yell and me, I was going to keep them, but 2 of the 3 capsules were
completely apart with the coins rolling around the shipping box. It's ridiculous how bad the quality is
this year. I have no patience for garbage. >>
this will be a sleeper for 2008
<< <i>I picked this year to stop collecting them. Otherwise I was on the auto ship list to get 100 every year.
I forgot to cancel so they shipped 100 to me. I was so close. I told the PO to return to sender so I'll never know if I would have had any or not.
Stefanie
.
CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
.
Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
.
More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
<< <i>Remember I mentioned that I ordered a few more from the Mint last week just for fun?
Got them today. All 08/08's. This will be my first ever return to the Mint. And before all the
ethics professors come out and yell and me, I was going to keep them, but 2 of the 3 capsules were
completely apart with the coins rolling around the shipping box. It's ridiculous how bad the quality is
this year. I have no patience for garbage. >>
how many times does this make that someone has reported ordering the 2008-Ws (in hopes of getting you know what).. and opening the box to find opened capsules with coins rolling around?.. doesn't this just reinforce the theory that the guys in Memphis were furiously tearing through boxes looking for the error coins and sloppily replacing them?.. maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, but reports similar to yours have been legion in this thread.. in what kind of box did they put the three little blue boxes?.. was it a huge, over-sized box with some half-deflated airbags inside?.. when they ship two -W ASEs, they come in a very thin, white cardboard box with a tear strip, so there's no room for the little blue boxes to fall open and the capsules to pop open at all.. but it seems like when they ship an order of more than two at a time, they use some ridiculously huge box and they're just banging around inside.. those airbags don't do much of anything.. so it's possible it was just simply a very sloppy packaging job, or it's also possible that the box was pre-packed, and put in the "there are three of them in this box" bin.. then ripped into, searched, the coins sloppily replaced, and then put into another box and sent on its merry way to you..
you shouldn't have any guilt about returning them if only for the reason that they arrived the way they did.. but in order to get your return shipping refunded, you have to check off a reason other than "changed my mind" or "arrived too late".. and they won't automatically refund your shipping if you check the "damaged" reason.. you have to call them and ask that your return shipping costs be refunded.. then wait a few weeks and eventually a check will show up in the mail.. otherwise, if you don't check "damaged" and follow it up with a phone call, they're just going to refund you $25.95 x 3 by the same method you paid for the order, (if you used plastic, you get a credit back to the plastic.. if you paid by check, you get a refund by check..) .. and that's it.. and no matter which box you check off as the reason you're returning them, even "damaged".. you don't get the original shipping (to you) charge refunded at all.. only the return (to them) shipping charge, and only if you call and ask for it..
maybe you already know all this stuff, in which case.. "nevermind"..
Harv
- John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't those who got the 100 count sealed boxes get 08/08? I thought the 07/08s were the ones ordered in smaller quantities. I also thought that most of the folks who have subscriptions did not get them either, that they started coming out when they got a bit deeper into the first run.
I'm sure this was answered 3000 or 4000 posts ago, but this is still a great topic and post!
I didn't even realize it was.
5300
sorry guys!