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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The time to pick apart your team is AFTER a series loss. NOT AFTER one loss within a series. Be thankful this is a best of seven ..... image

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Manny has had a nice run, but "Manny does not deserve and event like the World Series this year" >>



    Good point. >>





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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    I agree also - it was a tough loss, but only one game. No need to freak out.

    Tito managed the game very poorly last night, however. Sending Beckett out there in the 5th inning when he clearly had nothing was a bad move, and I'm not crazy about keeping Drew on the bench (even against the lefty Kazmir) when Ellsbury is ice cold. And when Timlin came in, I knew the game was lost. He is like the Red Sox human white flag.
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The time to pick apart your team is AFTER a series loss. NOT AFTER one loss within a series. Be thankful this is a best of seven ..... image >>



    Grady Francoma has been mismanaging pitchers for quite some time...Beckett ESPECIALLY (see Angels game #3). RSN picks a team apart during a game, even if winning by seven with two outs in the ninth...
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We NEED to Win tonight!!!!!!!!!!!

    Lets Go Lester and lets score a bunch of Freakin' runs for him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • TheVonTheVon Posts: 2,725


    << <i>RSN picks a team apart during a game, even if winning by seven with two outs in the ninth... >>



    I agree. This tendency is one of the defining charactersitics of being a Red Sox fan, IMO.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>RSN picks a team apart during a game, even if winning by seven with two outs in the ninth... >>



    I agree. This tendency is one of the defining charactersitics of being a Red Sox fan, IMO. >>



    case in point...WTF Varitek? Money on the Rays?
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    and Tek looks at a called 3rd strike for what, the millionth time this year?


  • << <i>Bottom Line Lester is our Ace for this years ALCS. I want him to be in there twice if needed. >>




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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>RSN picks a team apart during a game, even if winning by seven with two outs in the ninth... >>



    I agree. This tendency is one of the defining charactersitics of being a Red Sox fan, IMO. >>



    Is this supposed to be a badge of honor? Nahhhh .... its hangover from past history. Get past it grasshoppers and act like fans who expect victory. image

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  • Bottom9thBottom9th Posts: 2,695 ✭✭
    Well the good news is our team is still playing...softy's team isn't.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK! Rally caps fellas!!! Lets do some damage RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well the good news is our team is still playing...softy's team isn't. >>



    THANK GOODNESS FOR THE NY GIANTS image

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  • I figured It'd be best to delete my comment for the goodness of this thread. It's not a Sox bashing thread, but a thread for Sox fans to come together and talk about their team. My bad if I offended anyone with my comments, because this wasn't the place to make them. Sorry guys
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Little man's syndrome?


    Geez where did I hear that before?


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    Steve
    Good for you.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Im getting sick and tired of everyone complaining about us "waving our success" in everyones faces! Gimme a break! We are ecstatic about breaking a freakin 80 year old curse and finally getting the monkey off our back, Yankee fans for YEARS upon YEARS have been blasting us with their never ending run of World Series wins, playoff appearances ect.. ect.. We have been doing it for what? the past few years? Ofcourse we were sick of it when Yankee fans were doing it! We had EVERY REASON TO HATE IT! We were not champions and we certainly were never "Lovable losers" Yankee fans loved laughing at us, and guess what? We are laughing now and enjoying our "Run of fun" NOT ONE SOX FAN will ever say we have any compassion for the Yankees and dont expect any from them either.

    It is what it is- always has been and always will be. It is in our blood just as much as it is in Yankee fans blood. If ya dont want to hear it then get the hell out of any Red Sox related thread.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Im getting sick and tired of everyone complaining about us "waving our success" in everyones faces! Gimme a break! We are ecstatic about breaking a freakin 80 year old curse and finally getting the monkey off our back, Yankee fans for YEARS upon YEARS have been blasting us with their never ending run of World Series wins, playoff appearances ect.. ect.. We have been doing it for what? the past few years? Ofcourse we were sick of it when Yankee fans were doing it! We had EVERY REASON TO HATE IT! We were not champions and we certainly were never "Lovable losers" Yankee fans loved laughing at us, and guess what? We are laughing now and enjoying our "Run of fun" NOT ONE SOX FAN will ever say we have any compassion for the Yankees and dont expect any from them either.

    It is what it is- always has been and always will be. It is in our blood just as much as it is in Yankee fans blood. If ya dont want to hear it then get the hell out of any Red Sox related thread. >>



    Paul, EVERYONE is NOT complaining about this. ENJOY YOUR PLAYOFFS image

    I was trying to get you guys to fired up a bit more in a fashion wear you EXPECT to win. My bad. If you guys want to rip on every little happening in a game you lose then GO FOR IT. image

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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IDGAF about these little side jabs...

    I sure hope the Sox don't wait until they are down 3-1 to try to repeat last year's success.
  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Rays are a tough club, no doubt about it. They had our number tonight, we simply couldn't get the clutch hits from the big bats to make it a game. Where has Ortiz, Varitek and Drew gone? Simply cannot leave men in scoring position and continue to pop out or ground out. The oppostion obviously had no problem getting homers and hits...gotta be the pitching.

    There will always be those that like to jump into the thread and critique posts where they think they can get a rise out of RSN. Of course their teams are long gone out of the playoffs and they have a hard time dealing with what we write and the fact that the Yankees and Mets really sucked this year. We have at least made it to the Division Playoffs. Personally I am sick of these people that claim to be "sports", when in fact they are nothing but cheap shot artists who like to stir the muck. The Red Sox have won two WS in the past 4 years and still have a shot at number three. Their teams OTOH have accomplished squat. If you sour grapes guys don't like what we write here in the "The Offical 208 RED SOX Championship run thread!!" then I suggest you just shut the hell up and be men and stay the hell out of the thread.

    YOUR teams L-O-S-T, got it?
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭
    Ortiz (ugh), Varitek (just terrible) and Ellsbury (wow, horrendous) are hitting a combined .000 in the series through 3 games. That is the reason we're down 2-1. Tito BETTER have Crisp and Lowrie in the lineup tomorrow. I honestly wish they could stomach moving Ortiz to 6th and moving Bay to 3rd but they won't out of respect (and the match-up problems of an all right handed 2-3-4 it would create). I swear, I would rather have Cash in the game than Varitek at this point. He is done D-O-N-E. Look, I loved the guy for years, but let's face facts.
  • My guess is Wake shuts us down tomorrow because we wasted all of our offense tonight. As a fan of some of the worst franchises in sports history (Rays, Braves, Bucs) I have a hard time ever being 100% confident in my team......right now is one of those times. Yeah, we're up 2-1 but what does that mean with a possible 4 games ahead?.....squat.

    Hopefully this series continues to be as exciting as it has been and the best team wins.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That was worse than the Pats game.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That was worse than the Pats game. >>



    I wonder how bad the Patriots defense would be if Brady didn't get injured. I gotta believe they are related.

    Go Sox!
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    How much are you all paying Big Poopie?

    Sincerely,
    OUCH
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭
    Good points Paul. You should be enjoying it and I hate every moment of your success now GO RAYS!! image
  • Bottom9thBottom9th Posts: 2,695 ✭✭


    << <i>Im getting sick and tired of everyone complaining about us "waving our success" in everyones faces! Gimme a break! We are ecstatic about breaking a freakin 80 year old curse and finally getting the monkey off our back, Yankee fans for YEARS upon YEARS have been blasting us with their never ending run of World Series wins, playoff appearances ect.. ect.. We have been doing it for what? the past few years? Ofcourse we were sick of it when Yankee fans were doing it! We had EVERY REASON TO HATE IT! We were not champions and we certainly were never "Lovable losers" Yankee fans loved laughing at us, and guess what? We are laughing now and enjoying our "Run of fun" NOT ONE SOX FAN will ever say we have any compassion for the Yankees and dont expect any from them either.

    It is what it is- always has been and always will be. It is in our blood just as much as it is in Yankee fans blood. If ya dont want to hear it then get the hell out of any Red Sox related thread. >>



    Well said Perk!!

    And Goot, enjoy your team's success. Nothing wrong with that. They have the upper hand now, but the series is a long way from being over!
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I am sick of these people that claim to be "sports"


    Good, I'm just as sick of people that are L I A R S .


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Goot PM'ed me and I really appreaciate that and wanted to make it public that he is a great kid for doing that.

    Like I told him I didnt want him to delete his post, I kinda got caught in a very bad mood with the Pats/Sox getting smashed, I stand by my comments but Im not directing it at any specific boardmember- Yankee Fan or not I like all you guys and enjoy the banter. Yes I can stand the heat and will remain in the "Kitchen" that is called CU Sportstalk forum

    GO SOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • Bottom9thBottom9th Posts: 2,695 ✭✭


    << <i>I am sick of these people that claim to be "sports"


    Good, I'm just as sick of people that are L I A R S .


    Steve >>



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  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • JackWESQJackWESQ Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I did not intentionally deny I had not offered to help him as stated above >>


    Nice double or triple negative. But if you read the entire post, it makes sense.

    /s/ JackWESQ
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  • << <i>Ortiz (ugh), Varitek (just terrible) and Ellsbury (wow, horrendous) are hitting a combined .000 in the series through 3 games. That is the reason we're down 2-1. Tito BETTER have Crisp and Lowrie in the lineup tomorrow. I honestly wish they could stomach moving Ortiz to 6th and moving Bay to 3rd but they won't out of respect (and the match-up problems of an all right handed 2-3-4 it would create). I swear, I would rather have Cash in the game than Varitek at this point. He is done D-O-N-E. Look, I loved the guy for years, but let's face facts. >>



    Agreed on all points.....except one.

    Yes, put Coco in for Ellsbury.
    Yes, Cash would be better then Varitek right now.

    But I would add that I'd rather have Casey DHing instead of Papi. I think Papi is hurting and will continue to make outs. Nothing
    to punish Papi, but I think a healthy Casey would be better then a hurt Papi.
  • TheVonTheVon Posts: 2,725
    I hate to pile on but . . . okay, I don't really hate it, but I regret that it's come to this: Papi stinks. He doesn't deserve to be in the lineup right now, let alone hit 3rd. He's 4-27 in the postseason (that's .148) and even though he's also walked 7 times, he's still only scored twice and only has 1 RBI.

    I'd like to see Casey come in to play 1B and move Kotsay to DH. I'd like to see Youkilis hit 3rd, Bay hit 4th, and Drew hit 5th or some combination of those three hitters in those slots.

    I'd also like to see Mike Timlin with his butt glued to a bench - preferably a bench in Boston Common. Beckett can keep him company.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    unfortunately, Grady Francoma stuck with Bellhorn in 2004 and it paid off huge...so expect him to stick with "more established talent" like Ortiz, Varitek, Beckett, et al until he loses four or five straight postseason series (or his job)
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭


    << <i>unfortunately, Grady Francoma stuck with Bellhorn in 2004 and it paid off huge...so expect him to stick with "more established talent" like Ortiz, Varitek, Beckett, et al until he loses four or five straight postseason series (or his job) >>



    Hey, I disagree with a lot of what Tito's done this postseason too, but the guy won a championship 11 months ago. Calm down on the firing. If we chatted in December of 2003 and I told you you'd have seen 2 championships by October of 2008, you would have defecated in your pants. That said, everything I mentioned above still stands. This team needs a kick in the butt.
  • Bottom9thBottom9th Posts: 2,695 ✭✭
    We've been in worse spots before and came back. We win today and it's 2-2.
    Elsbury needs to sit. I've got a feeling that Papi will break out soon. Tek, as much as I hate to say this is DONE. image
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Drew in the #1 spot, Ellsbury is out. Crisp in the lineup along with Cash (of course, since Wakefield is pitching). Forecast is 10-15 MPH winds...how will the knuckleball fare in that environment?
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Winpitcher and I did not PM one another YOU PM'd Me!

    I'm sorry I did nopt see this sooner.

    But this is what happened:


    :

    I created a thread when I was selling some boxing magazines. I was distressed that a 0 feedback
    bidder was the high bidder. Without soliciting him Roman numerals guys PM's me and offers to
    shill the auction up so he would be the high bidder. I Pm'd him back and said no thanks, I have a few regular
    bidders that usually snipe so I'm not worried.

    In this thread you threatned to expose a PM I made to you, I sinply said expoae them all especially the very first one YOU
    ever sent to me. You provided the board with NOT the first one you ever sent to me but the 4th or 5th one then had the balls
    to tell everyone that I was embellishing the story. The bottom line is you PM'd me first and offered to shill up an auction.

    I declined.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Actually he called me a F****** LIAR.


    hey the shoe fits.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭


    << <i>Drew in the #1 spot, Ellsbury is out. Crisp in the lineup along with Cash (of course, since Wakefield is pitching). Forecast is 10-15 MPH winds...how will the knuckleball fare in that environment? >>



    I like the lineup tonight. Wakefield has always pitched well against TB, so hopefully that continues. I think we'll know right away if he's got anything tonight.
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  • Hey Winpitcher and MCTopps....

    Listen, and listen good. We really don't feel like hearing your crap on this board. If you want to continue it, then go ahead
    and open your PM's and talk about it.

    You'll both say that we don't have to read it, we can just skip over it. Well, that's not always easy to do. So just be men and
    take it somewhere else, because no one else really cares.

    We really don't care if Winpitcher is right, or if MCTopps is right. We simply don't care. Stop acting like a couple of school children, and
    just drop the whole thing.

    I think I speak on behalf of my of my fellow posters. If anyone disagrees, then feel free to express yourself.

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  • << <i>Drew in the #1 spot, Ellsbury is out. Crisp in the lineup along with Cash (of course, since Wakefield is pitching). Forecast is 10-15 MPH winds...how will the knuckleball fare in that environment? >>



    Great news image

    Now only if Casey was in the DH spot.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hopefully the Rays bats will be cooled off after their power surge the past few games. Im nervous as hell with Wakefield out there to be totally honest- #1 we rarely give him run support and #2 he is either on or REALLY OFF. If he doesnt have movement like a disco light on his pitches we need to get him out of there as soon as it be needed, obviously Im rooting for him but its 50/50 as far as Im concerned wether he gets some strong innings in tonight.

    Im glad the lineup is being shaken up- Ellsbury on the bench could be huge if we need a pinch runner for a late inning run.

    Well worse case scenario we are down 3-1 as we have been before, but Im thinking its not a good idea to play with fire yet again!

    WE NEED TO WIN TONIGHT.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    EF I don't care what you feel or think.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭


    << <i>EF I don't care what you feel or think.

    Steve >>



    Steve, as someone who has absolutely no qualms with you, can I respectfully ask that if you have a strife with a fellow board member that you please move it into another thread or a PM forum? I enjoy reading posts from both of you, but I read this thread as a Red Sox fan to converse with other fans, not to go through personal malarkey like in the Discussion threads. Please don't take offense at this request, I just want to read about the Red Sox when I open this thread.

    Best,
    Mike
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Honestly we cant expect Steve NOT to reply? I mean a PRIVATE pm was made public that basically called him out- he needed to reply as I would too!

    All I ask is Al to remove that post from this thread as it is NOBODY's bussiness except him and Steves.


    Edit- Hopefully we can END the talk of this right here right now! image

    The Sox are on tonight and we need to rally! Lets concentrate on that!
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭
  • From today's USA Today story on Wakefield. Great pitch to watch but brutal viewing when the guy is off and tossing cheese that Teddy Ballgame's frozen head could hit for .400. Hopefully he'll pull it together -

    "Wakefield will stand on the mound Tuesday night, and gaze earnestly at the poor guy the Red Sox have roped into catching him — Kevin Cash, by name — and deliver one of the most temperamental, unruly, volatile creatures ever put on the planet. Baseball's answer to the Dow Jones average.

    Nobody knows what will happen next. This includes the man throwing it.

    "There have been times when I've come out of the bullpen thinking I was going to throw a no-hitter," Wakefield said. "And I've lasted two or three innings.

    "There's no set barometer that I look at to dictate whether I'm going to have a good one or not."

    No, the best indication is if the catcher keeps having to turn and go off in a pursuit of an errant missile headed for the backstop, or if line drives keep banging off the wall in centerfield. Nothing looks more hittable than a fat knuckleball, except for maybe a pinata.

    "My margin of error," Wakefield said, "is very small."
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a joke. My fears came true image

    Well lets hang in there and MAYBE plate a couple runs?


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