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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    What an absolute BONEHEAD move by topps to jack up the odds on retail. Its bad enough that they are selling 3 card packs of
    bowman chrome where two of the cards are worthless, but this really sucks. I guess topps felt that instead of putting out more
    packs, they would offer less packs full of nothing but base cards! This now makes two year in a row where topps has
    made major mistakes. Last year with their chrome checklist, and this year watering down retail so much that it is no longer
    an option.

    I am soooo glad that no one on there pre ordered a bunch of this garbage and would of been stuck with a bunch of base
    cards. Inserting 1 to 2 chrome cards per box only is stupid. Maybe a bunch of hobby dealers whined that they couldn't
    make any money off this stuff..well you know what, heritage isn't about making money, its was SUPPOSED to be about
    fun and building a set with family and friends, but once again topps tries news ways to save money, at the expense of
    collectors who have build this set for 8 years plus

    my friends, this is really freaking sad!

    JS
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    BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
    Box 1:

    Three chromes
    One Refractor
    Ryan Howard Game Used
    Four Flashbacks
    Two Then and Now's
    One NAP


    Scans later.

    I need the SP list again, PLEASE!!

    Shawn

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    It's amazing what being away on a trip for three days means to a Heritage addiction. I think I was about 15 pages behind on this thread to start, and not having any interaction with other Heritage nuts was tough. The good news is that I just came home to my second case of Hobby, so hopefully I'll get some ripping in later...
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    TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭
    Shawn here's your list.

    Short Prints
    #11 Luke Scott, Baltimore Orioles
    #231 Kevin Gregg, Florida Marlins
    #315 Jacque Jones, Detroit Tigers
    #381Casey Blake, Cleveland Indians
    #409 Jon Lester, Boston Red Sox
    #426 Kyle Lohse, Philadelphia Phillies
    #427 Doug Davis, Arizona Diamondbacks
    #428 Ian Snell/Matt Capps/Tom Gorzelanny/Paul Maholm, Pittsburgh Pirates
    #429 Miguel Batista, Seattle Mariners
    #430 Chien-Ming Wang, New York Yankees
    #431 Jeff Salazar, Arionza Diamondbacks
    #432 Yadier Molina, St. Louis Cardinals
    #433 Adam Wainwright, St. Louis Cardinals
    #434 Scott Kazmir, Tampa Bay Rays
    #435 Adam Dunn, Cincinnati Reds
    #436 Ryan Freel, Cincinnati Reds
    #437 Jhonny Peralta, Cleveland Indians
    #438 Kazuo Matsui, Houston Astros
    #441 Emil Brown, Kansas City Royals
    #442 Gary Sheffield, Detroit Tigers
    #443 Jake Peavy, San Diego Padres
    #444 Scott Rolen, Toronto Blue Jays
    #445 Kason Gabbard, Texas Rangers
    #446 Aaron Hill, Toronto Blue Jays
    #447 Felipe Lopez, Washington Nationals
    #448 Dan Uggla, Florida Marlins
    #449 Willy Taveras, Colorado Rockies
    #450 Chipper Jones, Atlanta Braves
    #451 Josh Anderson, Atlanta Braves
    #452 Chris Young/Justin Upton/Eric Byrnes, Arizona Diamondbacks
    #453 Braden Looper, St. Louis Cardinals
    #454 Brandon Inge, Detroit Tigers
    #455 Brian Giles, San Diego Padres
    #456 Corey Patterson, Baltimore Orioles
    #457 Los Angeles Dodgers
    #458 Sean Casey, Detroit Tigers
    #459 Pedro Feliz, San Francisco Giants
    #461 Chone Figgins, Angels
    #462 Kyle Kendrick, Philadelphia Phillies
    #463 Tony Pena, Kansas City Royals
    #464 Marcus Giles, San Diego Padres
    #465 Augie Ojeda, Arizona Diamondbacks
    #466 Micah Owings, Arizona Diamondbacks
    #467 Ryan Theriot, Chicago Cubs
    #468 Shawn Green, New York Mets
    #469 Frank Thomas, Toronto Blue Jays
    #470 Lenny DiNardo, Oakland Athletics
    #471 Jose Bautista, Pittsburgh Pirates
    #472 Manny Corpas, Colorado Rockies
    #473 Kevin Millwood, Texas Rangers
    #474 Kevin Youkilis, Boston Red Sox
    #475 Jose Contreras, Chicago White Sox
    #477 Julio Lugo, Boston Red Sox
    #479 Tony LaRussa, St. Louis Cardinals
    #480 Jim Leyland, Detroit Tigers
    #481 Derrek Lee, Chicaco Cubs
    #482 Justin Morneau, Minnesota Twins
    #483 Orlando Hudson, Arizona Diamondbacks
    #484 Brian Roberts, Baltimore Orioles
    #485 Miguel Cabrera, Florida Marlins
    #486 Mike Lowell, Boston Red Sox
    #487 J.J. Hardy, Milwaukee Brewers
    #488 Carlos Guillen, Detroit Tigers
    #489 Ken Griffey Jr., Cincinnati Reds
    #490 Vladimir Guerrero, Angels
    #491 Alfonso Soriano, Chicago Cubs
    #492 Ichiro, Seattle Mariners
    #493 Matt Holliday, Colorado Rockies
    #494 Magglio Ordonez, Detroit Tigers
    #495 Brian McCann, Atlanta Braves
    #496 Victor Martinez, Cleveland Indians
    #497 Brad Penny, Los Angeles Dodgers
    #498 Josh Beckett, Boston Red Sox
    #499 Cole Hamels, Philadelphia Phillies
    #500 Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers

    Black Back Variations
    #2 Placido Polanco, Detroit Tigers
    #3 Eric Byrnes, Arizona Diamondbacks
    #5 Javier Vazquez, Chicago White Sox
    #7 Joey Gathright, Kansas City Royals
    #8 Philadelphia Phillies
    #9 Andre Ethier, Los Angeles Dodgers
    #12 Curt Schilling, Boston Red Sox
    #13 Billy Wagner, New York Mets
    #14 Gary Matthews, Angels
    #16 Ichiro, Seattle Mariners
    #18 Dontrelle Willis, Detroit Tigers
    #21 Troy Tulowitzki, Colorado Rockies
    #22 Brian Fuentes, Colorado Rockies
    #23 Robinson Cano, New York Yankees
    #24 Felix Hernandez, Seattle Mariners
    #28 Ivan Rodriguez, Detroit Tigers
    #34 Magglio Ordonez/Curtis Granderson, Detroit Tigers
    #35 Adam LaRoche, Pittsburgh Pirates
    #40 Tim Hudson, Atlanta Braves
    #41 Kelvim Escobar, Angels
    #42 Jason Jennings, Houston Astros
    #45 Chris Ray, Baltimore Orioles
    #49 Bill Hall, Milwaukee Brewers
    #52 Omar Vizquel, San Francisco Giants
    #54 Justin Upton, Arizona Diamondbacks
    #57 Brad Lidge, Philadelphia Phillies
    #58 Paul Lo Duca, New York Mets
    #60 Andy Pettitte, New York Yankees
    #61 Brendan Harris, Minnesota Twins
    #62 Chris Young, San Diego Padres
    #65 Jason Giambi, New York Yankees
    #67 Rich Hill, Chicago Cubs
    #69 San Francisco Giants
    #71 Trevor Hoffman, San Diego Padres
    #78 Josh Hamilton, Cincinnati Reds
    #79 Mark Loretta, Houston Astros
    #81 Torii Hunter, Angels
    #82 Carlos Beltran, New York Mets
    #83 Jason Isringhausen, St. Louis Cardinals
    #84 Brad Penny, Los Angeles Dodgers
    #90 Hideki Matsui, New York Yankees
    #91 Matt Garza, Tampa Bay Rays
    #92 Phil Hughes, New York Yankees
    #94 Chicago White Sox
    #98 Jon Garland, Angels
    #102 Moises Alou, New York Mets
    #116 Wladimir Balentien, Seattle Mariners
    #117 Daric Barton, Oakland Athletics
    #122 Ross Detwiler, Washington Nationals
    #126 Dan Giese, San Francisco Giants
    #127 Alberto Gonzalez, New York Yankees
    #129 Luke Hochevar, Kansas City Royals
    #130 Chin-Lung Hu, Los Angeles Dodgers
    #135 Mitch Stetter, Milwaukee Brewers
    #150 Albert Pujols, St. Louis Cardinals
    #155 Johnny Damon, New York Yankees
    #173 Ronny Paulino, Pittsburgh Pirates
    #174 Mike Cameron, San Diego Padres
    #175 Jeff Weaver, Seattle Mariners
    #176 Preston Wilson, St. Louis Cardinals
    #177 Robinson Tejeda, Texas Rangers
    #178 Adam Lind, Toronto Blue Jays
    #179 Austin Kearns, Washington Nationals
    #180 Jorge Posada, New York Yankees
    #185 Brad Hawpe, Colorado Rockies
    #186 Rickie Weeks, Milwaukee Brewers
    #187 Carlos Silva, Minnesota Twins
    #195 Carlos Quentin, Chicago White Sox
    #196 Jose Valverde, Arizona Diamondbacks
    #197 Derrek Lee, Chicago Cubs
    #198 Jerry Owens, Chicago White Sox
    #210 J.J. Putz, Seattle Mariners
    #211 Mike Sweeney, Kansas City Royals
    #224 David Wright, New York Mets
    #225 Pedro Martinez, New York Mets
    #226 Rich Harden, Oakland Athletics
    #227 Shane Victorino, Philadelphia Phillies
    #228 Andrew Miller, Florida Marlins
    #262 Chad Billingsley/Derek Lowe/Brad Penny, Los Angeles Dodgers
    #263 Melky Cabrera, New York Yankees
    #264 Shannon Stewart, Oakland Athletics
    #265 Aaron Rowand, Philadelphia Phillies
    #266 Matt Morris, Pittsburgh Pirates
    #267 Xavier Nady, Pittsburgh Pirates
    #283 Miguel Cabrera, Detroit Tigers
    #284 Luis Gonzalez, Los Angeles Dodgers
    #285 Chad Billingsley, Los Angeles Dodgers
    #286 Tony Gwynn, Milwaukee Brewers
    #291 Matt Chico/Jason Bergmann, Washington Nationals
    #301 Ronnie Belliard, Washington Nationals
    #321 Randy Winn, San Francisco Giants
    #322 Richie Sexson, Seattle Mariners
    #323 Juan Encarnacion, St. Louis Cardinals
    #324 Rick Ankiel, St. Louis Cardinals
    #325 Dan Wheeler, Tampa Bay Rays
    #330 Ty Wigginton, Houston Astros
    #332 Howie Kendrick, Angels
    #333 Kevin Kouzmanoff, San Diego Padres
    #334 Matt Holliday, Colorado Rockies
    #335 Brandon Phillips, Cincinnati Reds
    #336 Ian Kinsler, Texas Rangers
    #337 Lyle Overbay, Toronto Blue Jays
    #338 Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers
    #347 Chuck James, Atlanta Braves
    #350 Jimmy Rollins, Philadelphia Phillies
    #360 Magglio Ordonez, Detroit Tigers
    #370 Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers
    #371 Pedro Martinez, New York Mets
    #372 Ryan Howard, Philadelphia Phillies
    #415 Freddy Sanchez, Pittsburgh Pirates
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    Opened first box today and noticed something about the green back counterpart to the black backs. Normal box, nothing special, inserts or SPs in 21 packs. In the other three packs the seventh card was green back 127, 267 & 338 - all three have black backs. Altogether, there were 5 green back/black cards. More SPs in the box than green back/blacks.
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    << <i>I just purchased a Smoltz variation off ebay for $48 (includes shipping). Time will tell if I overpaid, but there were less of the Smoltz variation on ebay than the Santana in a Mets uniform. What strategy is everyone using on acquiring these variations?

    I trade a lot on the Bench, but this is the best, most informative thread I've seen on 2008 Topps Heritage. Thanks to everyone for this great info. I've learned a lot. - Mark >>



    Mark-

    This is by far the nicest group of collectors on any of the boards. Everyone here shows respect and courtesy towards each other, even when they disagree. This place is the exception to the rule.

    I'm waiting on the Smoltz and Johan variants.....hoping they level off in price.

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    Kevin,
    I think the 'series 2 Heritage chrome' being in Topps Chrome is another blunder. I had honestly thought about doing the chrome set until I read that the 'other 100 cards' were in another Topps product. What's next, the rest of Topps Series 1 in the football or basket ball packs?
    2001-2014 Topps Heritage complete!
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    BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
    :sigh:

    Box two even more my normal pull.

    Three Chromes
    Zero Refractors
    Zero Ink
    Shawn Green game used.

    Neither box I've opened has had a buyback either.

    Three more to go.

    shawn
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    BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
    BTW Geordie,

    Thanks for the list.

    shawn
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    BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
    ???????????????

    The list says #489 Griffey Jr.

    The Griffey Jr. I pulled is #50.

    What am I missing???
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    bjbrall4bjbrall4 Posts: 277 ✭✭


    << <i>Kevin,
    I think the 'series 2 Heritage chrome' being in Topps Chrome is another blunder. I had honestly thought about doing the chrome set until I read that the 'other 100 cards' were in another Topps product. What's next, the rest of Topps Series 1 in the football or basket ball packs? >>



    Brian,
    What are the '03, '05, and '08 Heritage that you need? Let me know.
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    bjbrall4bjbrall4 Posts: 277 ✭✭


    << <i>???????????????

    The list says #489 Griffey Jr.

    The Griffey Jr. I pulled is #50.

    What am I missing??? >>



    Shawn,
    Card #50 is the "regular" player card; card #489 is the All Star card, which is a short print.
    Bob
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    BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>???????????????

    The list says #489 Griffey Jr.

    The Griffey Jr. I pulled is #50.

    What am I missing??? >>



    Shawn,
    Card #50 is the "regular" player card; card #489 is the All Star card, which is a short print.
    Bob >>



    Thank you.
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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    good luck Shawn - you'll get something good
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Shawn

    Pull the Griffey black refractor 30/59!!!!!!


    Kevin
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    CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    I just opened two boxes out of boredom and here are my results:

    The gum tastes better than in years past, but it gets hard and becomes difficult to chew.
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    I just chewed card #331 Travis Hafner and it DID taste better than the gum!

    Kevin
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    BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
    Box 3

    Torii Hunter GU
    Three chromes (Arod)
    One Refractor
    A buyback I haven't opened yet.

    Getting the usual 8 sp's per box, but nothing to write home about (barely enough to write/type here)

    Two boxes left, will bust tomorrow.

    shawn
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭


    << <i>
    Two boxes left, will bust tomorrow.

    shawn >>



    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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    Would someone be so kind in posting the wrapper showing the odds of a retail pack? Thanks!

    Craig in Texas
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    parkerjparkerj Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭
    Any traders yet?

    Available:

    Black Refractor: 61 delgado
    FB Seat Relic: Luis Aparicio
    CC bat relics: andruw jones, posada ,abreu, aramis ramirez
    CC jersey relics: edmonds, pedro, berkman (x2), smoltz, blalock, zimmerman

    Chrome (#/1959)
    94x3 86x2 85 81 70 69 66 63x2 62 55 54 44 26

    Short Prints
    499 498 496 490 489 488x3 486 485 484 481 479
    477 472 471x2 470 469 467 466 465 464 461x2 458
    455 454 453 452 451 450x3 449x2 448 447 445x2 443x2
    441x2 438x2 436 434x2 432x2 431 430 427 426x2 409x2 381
    11

    2008 Heritage Wantlist

    Chrome or Refractor (no preference): 98 93 76 73 67 65 64 59 51 49 42 40 34 31 22 21 20 12 9 8 6
    Short Prints: 494, 463



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    mdkuommdkuom Posts: 969 ✭✭✭
    Does anyone have a Joe Girardi #389 with a facsimile auto on it? Does he not have one because he's a manager?
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    bjbrall4,

    Here's what I need from 2003 and 2005:
    2003:
    27 Rodrigo Lopez (Old Logo)
    200 Vladimir Guerrero (SP)
    239 Jeff Clark (SP)
    386 Kenny Lofton (SP)
    398 Brandon Phillips (SP)
    410 Raul Mondesi (SP)
    411 Adrian Beltre (SP)
    425 Corey Kosikie (SP)

    2005:
    409 Rondell White SP

    If you can help me here, let me know. If you'll turn your private messages on (the setting is in your profile) and we'll work it out without clogging up this thread. image
    2001-2014 Topps Heritage complete!
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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    Here's my complete breakdown of the case I ripped

    I haven't seperated my SP dupes from the rest of my dupes yet but all cards are sorted.


    Autographs – 1 (blue ink)
    Autographed relics (# to 25) – 2 (both redemptions)
    Clubhouse Collection Relics – 9
    Clubhouse Collection Dual Relics – 1
    Stadium Seat Relics - 1
    Variations – 2 (Smoltz & Santana)
    Black Chrome – 0
    Chrome refractor – 10
    Chrome – 35
    ’59 Buybacks - 6
    Ad Panels – 12 (all different)

    All insert sets – complete
    Black Back set – complete
    Master set – 3 SPs needed (447, 485, 488)
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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does anyone have a Joe Girardi #389 with a facsimile auto on it? Does he not have one because he's a manager? >>



    hmmm interesting. All 5 that I pulled are missing the sig too but that brings up another point. That card is a checklist card. I thought all the check list cards were Team cards. Is Girardi taking the place of a Yankees team card? Or is there another card as the Yankees team card? Don't remember seeing one and then, where are all the other manager cards?....


    edit - just checked Topps' site and on their official checklist, it lists card #389 as the Yankees team card not Joe Girardi.

    Did anyone pull a Yankees team card?
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    Could anyone please post odds of a retail pack? I am curious to see if there is a difference between retail and retail blaster.

    Craig in Texas
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    Looks like my package popped back up on the USPS tracking radar, should have a few boxes to rip today. Feels good knowing that my fix is only a few short hours away. image
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    bjbrall4bjbrall4 Posts: 277 ✭✭


    << <i>Could anyone please post odds of a retail pack? I am curious to see if there is a difference between retail and retail blaster.

    Craig in Texas >>



    Craig,

    I couldn't enlarge the wrapper enough to make it legible. I have to leave now as I teach two classes today, but I'll put up the odds, if no one else does, tonight about 9:00 EST.

    Bob
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    CubsFan, where are you at? I know out of 2 cases you must have pulled some ink, let's see some scans.
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    RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>CubsFan, where are you at? I know out of 2 cases you must have pulled some ink, . >>




    NO he is the Anti-Zep remember..lol
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    kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    image

    In mail today! paid 35$ for it. hope its a good deal havent seen to many of these on ebay. looks to be as rare as the minnie momosa jersey. maybe more yogi's in retail?

    no blasters in atlanta yet as of yesterday. will look again today!
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    My box, nothing special:

    Chase Utley Refractor
    3 Chromes
    Mazeroski seat relic
    NAP: 2 (Prince Fielder, Manny)
    3 or 4 Event Flashback cards
    TN: 2

    Not sure of SPs

    Lots of gum.

    Think that may be it...

    Tim
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    tillertiller Posts: 149 ✭✭
    My 3d box, i got,
    8 SPs.
    THC. 3
    NAP. 2
    T&N. 2
    FBF. 2
    FBN.2
    Flashback relic. Ernie Banks.
    1 panel
    1 buyback.
    Box #4
    9 SPs
    Derek Jeter refractor
    No auto or relic.
    I tried posting pictures but failed. guess i dont know how to do it?
    Dave
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    RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    are there Mantle Hr cards this year, anyone need any from 07? going though 06, 07 heritage and 07 A&G anyone need anything Pm please
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    tillertiller Posts: 149 ✭✭


    << <i>are there Mantle Hr cards this year, anyone need any from 07? going though 06, 07 heritage and 07 A&G anyone need anything Pm please >>






    No Mantle HR cards in Heritage this year. Dave.
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    KnopflerKnopfler Posts: 783 ✭✭✭
    Do you guys think I have a problem? I brought two boxes with me to work, went out to my car during my lunch break, and ripped them all while chewing heritage gum. Got a Freddy Sanchez redemption cc auto, a Mazeroski seat, and a couple of modern clubhouses.
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    RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you guys think I have a problem? I brought two boxes with me to work, went out to my car during my lunch break, and ripped them all while chewing heritage gum. . >>



    only if you are offering it to passing children
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    CubsFan41CubsFan41 Posts: 513 ✭✭


    << <i>CubsFan, where are you at? I know out of 2 cases you must have pulled some ink, let's see some scans. >>





    Still have a sealed case. I'm not doing anything with it till I finish sorting base and sp's. You know if I get rid of it there will be a great pull in itimage
    Looking for Cello packs with Bill Buckner on top
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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you guys think I have a problem? I brought two boxes with me to work, went out to my car during my lunch break, and ripped them all while chewing heritage gum. Got a Freddy Sanchez redemption cc auto, a Mazeroski seat, and a couple of modern clubhouses. >>



    LOL that's cool - that makes 3 of us from here that pulled that #/25 Sanchez card
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    4 boxes today, nothing amazing, but I did knock off the Santana off my list and others. I have a huge stack of chromes and GU if anyone
    needs them

    Kevin
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    magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I just chewed card #331 Travis Hafner and it DID taste better than the gum! >>



    LOL
    I hate the gum the last 2 years-sort of a cherry flavor to it and hard. The '06 gum had me hooked (retail).


    ON the Minoso & other CC relics, assuming a 2 million total pack run ......Minoso has about 111 cc relics while each of the others (Berra, Aparicio, Maz, & Gibson) would have 125. Maybe the reason so few Berras (and Gibsons) have showed on eBay in comparison is that there has been so much hype over the difficulty of the Minoso card.
    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
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    Well just back from a retail run, Target did have 3 new boxes of retail but no blasters, after seeing the poor odds in the retail I actually passed on all of them. But when I got home the mailman had brought me 3 boxes, and UPS should be showing up with another one soon. Report shortly.
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    Box 1 First Box with No Relic or Auto
    Ad Panel=1
    Buy Back= 0
    Ink=0
    Relic=0
    sp= 8
    Chrome=4
    Relic=1
    FB=4
    NAP = 2
    TN= 1

    Nick (nam812) just called me and said he found some retail packs at a Walmart in NJ today.
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    Box 2
    Ad Panel= 1
    Buyback= 0
    Ink=0
    Relic= Edmonds
    SP= 7
    Chrome=3
    Refractor=1
    FB=3
    NAP=1
    TN=2
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    RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    nuthin beats the 01 gum, I thought it was a rumor, but it is GOOD!
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    Box 3
    Ad Panel= 1
    Buyback= 0
    Ink= 0
    Relic= Cabrera
    SP= 6
    Chrome= 3
    Refractor= 1
    FB= 4
    Nap= 1
    TN = 1
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    magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭
    I just came from Walmart where they have these in:

    image


    Doran, you're sure right about the odds.

    image
    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    LOL the Dick Perez cards are 1:4

    Hope none of you guys bought any on ebay

    25% as bad as Ginter last year

    and damn... my minosso flashback relic is 1:50,000. I should have said I pulled it from there image
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    Those are exactly what Nick found today, he had real good luck with pulling sp's out of those last year. I've never seen them in my area.
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    kmnortonkmnorton Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    Interesting: Chrome and Refractors are over twice as hard in Retail. Blacks are 1-315 Hobby to 1-450. What's that about? Also, with all the Minoso/Berra talk, look at the odds for Group A and Group B between the two. Retail, Group A 1 - 7,400; Hobby, Group A 1 - 4,100. Retail, Group B 1 - 7,800; Hobby Group B 1 - 18,000??? Screw-up on the Hobby odds of Group B? Just got (relatively) easier to get a Minoso in Retail? Finally, look at the Dual Flashback Relic odds in Retail 1 - 40,000 vs. 1 - 55,000 in Hobby. Double huh?

    Kurt
    IWTDMBII
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