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    1000!!!
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    tillertiller Posts: 149 ✭✭
    Still waiting to hear from LR cards. nothing yet. Anyone hear from him? Dave.
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    Hopefully I'll have 6 boxes showing up today, but I have the flu so the ripping may be a little slow going. I think we will start to see retail later this week, there was a retail listed on ebay earlier today but the guy wanted $600 which is really high. I will miss the blaster cases from Jack, those things were a steal. I think he just didn't order any this year because he got stuck with so much product last year.
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    WOW, I just contacted my guy from topps and he said that the Perez variations (Wright and Santana) are WAL MART
    exclusives. Looks like they aren't that rare afterall!

    No news yet on Smoltz

    Kevin
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    << <i>WOW, I just contacted my guy from topps and he said that the Perez variations (Wright and Santana) are WAL MART
    exclusives. Looks like they aren't that rare afterall!

    No news yet on Smoltz

    Kevin >>



    Whoo hoo!!!!
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    nam812nam812 Posts: 10,555 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>WOW, I just contacted my guy from topps and he said that the Perez variations (Wright and Santana) are WAL MART
    exclusives. Looks like they aren't that rare afterall!

    No news yet on Smoltz

    Kevin >>



    I dont think Santana as a Met is Wal Mart only because it's number is 201 just like the regular issue, whereas the Wright has sort of an insert number to it instead of #224 like the regular Wright issue.
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    I think he meant that Santana will have a Perez drawing like Wright.
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    Well the mailman just showed up, 3 boxes to rip (hopefully the others will be here tomorrow). Highlights to follow.
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    yes I think that is what Clay was trying to tell me. There is a walmart exclusive set which I beleive will all look like the 59
    set but will have numbers 1-10 and whatever prefix there is.

    The Smoltz variation and the Santana Mets variation are in ALL packs. He told me that the Smoltz is VERY rare.

    Kevin
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    Box 1
    Buyback=scrub
    Ad Panel= 1
    Ink= Johnny O'brien blue ink
    Relic= 0
    Chrome=2
    Refractor=1
    FB=3
    TN=2
    NAP=2
    SP=8
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    kmnortonkmnorton Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    He would of done better money wise had he left off the back, those obviously look like some walmart subset. I love the set
    and will add them to my master set. I wonder if they will be box toppers like topps have had in the past, or actual cards inserted
    into packs. Is it a bit disappointing that some sellers are offering these as super rare cards, why it looks like they will be common.

    Thanks for the info
    Kevin
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    psu92psu92 Posts: 283


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    << <i>If these are the only variations, I will be a little disappointed in this year's Heritage. >>



    Disappointed that there are not MORE variations? image Wow. I'd think 110 black backs, 110 semi-SP green backs, in addition tot he 75 SPs and 3 variations would be enough image >>



    What I mean is that in the past there have always been about 20 cards that were variations, like the one year you had the night backgrounds, players in different poses, and last year - team and player names in yellow. Those 20 card variations is what made Heritage special (at least in my opinion).

    The black backs are ok, but I really enjoyed the 20 card variations.
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    Box 2
    Buyback=scrub
    Ad Panel= 1
    Ink= 0
    Relic= I. Rodriguez bat
    Chrome=3
    Refractor=0
    FB=4
    TN=2
    NAP=2
    SP=8
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    PSU92...I know what you mean, the black back variations are a bit boring, but I guess topps went with something that would more
    closely mirror the 59 set.

    Kevin
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    To mirror the 1959 set, the only other option for variations would be the traded or optioned cards, wouldn't it? DId the '59 set have any variations that I might not be thinking of?
    2001-2014 Topps Heritage complete!
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    parkerjparkerj Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Kevin for the info.

    Well, if ebay is any indication - there have been 8 santana mets sold, and 5 available now. There have been 2 smoltz sold and 4 available now (I just hit a buy-it-now for $47). Probably too small a sample size to really know.
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    I hope that there will be more of these floating around after the retail packs hit the streets, at least so the price drops a few bucks. Or I find someone who is interested in trading for a relic or two. ;-)
    2001-2014 Topps Heritage complete!
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    TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭
    The only other 1959 variation was for card #40:

    40a Warren Spahn (Born 1931) -- Milwaukee Braves
    40b Warren Spahn (Born 1931, "3" partially obscured) -- Milwaukee Braves
    40c Warren Spahn (Born 1921) -- Milwaukee Braves

    Card 40 in '08 Heritage is Tim Hudson, also a Brave. We could see a variation available there.

    Geordie

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    Box 3
    Buyback=0
    Ad Panel= 1
    Ink= 0
    Relic= G. Anderson Jersey, Verlander Jersey
    Chrome=3
    Refractor=0
    FB=4
    TN=2
    NAP=1
    SP=7
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    kcballboykcballboy Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭
    Without searching through all 50 pages, can someone direct me towards the checklist of sp's, variations & inserts?

    Thanks.
    Travis
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    << <i>What I mean is that in the past there have always been about 20 cards that were variations, like the one year you had the night backgrounds, players in different poses, and last year - team and player names in yellow. Those 20 card variations is what made Heritage special (at least in my opinion).

    The black backs are ok, but I really enjoyed the 20 card variations. >>



    You and I are on the same page. I would trade the black backs in a second for some kind of variation on the front of the card. It seems like they could have done logo variations again (like the 2003 set) or different colored borders or something. I much prefer the variation to be visible on the front of the card than the back.
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    bjbrall4bjbrall4 Posts: 277 ✭✭
    It might be simpler to go to the Topps website for the short prints and black back. I don't know if there is a formal list of variations.
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    bjbrall4bjbrall4 Posts: 277 ✭✭
    For seven years I thought I was the only crazy person out there collecting Heritage and viewing the release date as a sort of "second Christmas". It's nice to know there are more of you out there. For the last few years I have bought two hobby cases per year, but this year the IRS has decided it knows better than I how to spend my money, so no go.

    I don't know the protocol for introducing topics, so forgive me:

    a) Aren't there four variations? Smoltz, Santana, Wright, and Encarnacion (Edwin on Juan's card).
    b) I bought the four retail boxes that were listed on eBay (take that, IRS) which caused some confusion among members - were they Topps Series I or Heritage? The seller assures me that they are Heritage; we'll see.
    c) I see that many people are trying to complete previous year's sets. I have four monster boxes of mostly commons but also some inserts and sp's from 2001 on. Since the IRS wants my money by April 15, I'd rather sell than trade, but, again, I don't know the protocol. Is it considered rude to say I want to sell, not trade? I have sold on eBay before, as bjbrall4, and have some 2008 Topps currently up for auction.




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    TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Without searching through all 50 pages, can someone direct me towards the checklist of sp's, variations & inserts?

    Thanks. >>

    Link to Topps site - pay no attention to the colored lines - nobody knows what they're for.
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    kcballboykcballboy Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It might be simpler to go to the Topps website for the short prints and black back. I don't know if there is a formal list of variations. >>



    I'd be willing to bet that someone on this site has put one together. If there's one thing that you can tell by "The Official 2008 TOPPS HERITAGE thread" being started back in July, it's that there are some Heritage freaks here. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I'd probably be one too if my wife wouldn't pay so much attention to me. image
    Travis
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    kmnortonkmnorton Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    Sorry if I missed it, but did somebody find or post the Auto groupings and their odds?
    IWTDMBII
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    Bob,

    Welcome to the PSA board. Regarding your questions, there are 2 known variations (Santana and Smoltz). The Wright (Perez drawing) is actually part of a retail subset for Heritage. The Encarnacion is currently an uncorrected "error". However, it may get corrected in retail.
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    DarinDarin Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd be willing to bet that someone on this site has put one together. If there's one thing that you can tell by "The Official 2008 TOPPS HERITAGE thread" being started back in July, it's that there are some Heritage freaks here. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I'd probably be one too if my wife wouldn't pay so much attention to me.

    Travis, can you tell your wife to keep her hands off until you start an official royals 08 thread on sports talk? image
    I'm interested in how you think this year will shape up.

    Stupid list…. Mistlin

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    magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭
    You might try GCX for retail. I bought from them 2 years ago then got on the Lockwood bandwagon. Steve (GCX) usually has some older Heritage in stock too.
    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    through 9 boxes ripped so far, I only need 8 SPs and 1 regular card and the Santana (Mets) to complete the master set

    any chance I can get it done with the last 3 boxes?

    I saw one guy came up 1 SP short after a case. Has anyone completed it with a case?

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    rugbymarinerugbymarine Posts: 418 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>yes I think that is what Clay was trying to tell me. There is a walmart exclusive set which I beleive will all look like the 59
    set but will have numbers 1-10 and whatever prefix there is.

    The Smoltz variation and the Santana Mets variation are in ALL packs. He told me that the Smoltz is VERY rare. >>



    I should count my blessings. In my first 4 boxes, I got one of each. image

    bjbrall,

    Nice to finally meet the man that has outbid me on dozens upon dozens of Heritage auctions on eBay. Your Heritage collection is impressive.

    Ian
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    GootGoot Posts: 3,496
    My box just got here!!!!!
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    magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭
    Hi my name is Dave & I'm a Heritage freak. image



    << <i>I saw one guy came up 1 SP short after a case. Has anyone completed it with a case? >>



    I'm 11 Sp's, 1 blackback, & 4 inserts short after 1 case.
    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My box just got here!!!!! >>



    get rippin!! Good Luck
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    bjbrall4bjbrall4 Posts: 277 ✭✭
    The monster boxes are what's left after sets, chrome sets, and refractor sets. I need to get a life; it would be cheaper.
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    Zep, you are definitely closer than me. After 11 boxes I still need 5 semi-sp, 20sps, 14 black backs, 4 NAP, 3 FB
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    CubsFan41CubsFan41 Posts: 513 ✭✭
    Just got my two cases for LR. Let the rip begin.


    Box 1
    Panel: capps, young, haren
    Buyback: 0
    Ink: 0
    Relic: Zimmerman
    Chrome: 3
    REfr: 1 Ben Sheets
    tn: 1
    nap: 2
    fbn : 2
    fb: 2
    sp's: 8


    Box 2
    Panel: Lofton bb thrills, cust, harang
    BB: 0
    Ink: 0
    Relic: M Cabrera
    Chrome: 3
    REFR: 0
    TN: 1
    Nap: 2
    FBN: 1
    FB: 2
    SP: 7

    Consecutive boxes with no ink: 22 dating back to 2007
    Looking for Cello packs with Bill Buckner on top
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    GootGoot Posts: 3,496
    I'm not going to go into great detail about what I pulled as far as the SPs go because i just finished, and I don't feel like sorting them as of right now. No major pulls, but it was definitely fun to open my first box EVER of heritage! I pulled 2 chromes (Zito and D. Lee) and 1 refractor of Joe Mauer. I did pretty good with the inserts and pulled 3 news flashbacks, 1 flashback of Brooks Robinson, 2 new age performers and one then and now. My only problem is the amount of doubles I pulled. The collation was really bad, especially when it came to the Rays cards. I did very good with the Braves cards though. No ink, but I beat the odds with the game used cards! I pulled a Dmitri Young and a Roy Oswalt and the Oswalt has a pinstripe going right down the middle of it. I haven't opened my Panel or my buyback because I'm going to wait for my dad to get home, since I already feel bad that I didn't open the box with him to begin with.

    I'm willing to trade ALMOST all of it (except for some I want to try to get signed, etc.) . As far as trading goes, my priorities are: 1) Braves and Rays game used, 2) Braves +Rays Chromes/refractors and then obviously base cards.

    I also forgot about the gum in every pack!
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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    nice box Goot - 2 GU and a buyback - good luck when you open it
    Funny you would say that about the colation though. I was 4 or 5 packs into box 3 before I saw my first double.

    Getting ready to hit box 10 in a few minutes
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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    cubsfan you ripping both cases tonight?

    I'd be willing to bet your no ink streak is about to stop. good luck
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    cubsfans..lets see some scans!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    bj.....Did you ever collect the autos sets?

    Kevin
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    mdkuommdkuom Posts: 969 ✭✭✭
    I received my case from LR cards today as well.

    Box 1:
    buyback: Russ Heman
    relic: CC Chavez
    chrome: 5 (the Ethiers are 972 and 973)
    NF: 2
    TN: 2
    FB: 2
    NAP: 0

    image
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    CubsFan41CubsFan41 Posts: 513 ✭✭
    I'm going to see where I'm at after the first one before I crack the 2nd. Hope the streak ends soon. Pulled a red ink ernie banks in 2006, nothing since.

    Box 3
    Panel: W. rod, pena, b. jones
    BB: 0
    Ink: 0
    Relic: Tejada
    Chrome: 3
    REFR: 0
    TN: 1
    Nap: 2
    FBN: 2
    FB: 1
    sp: 10

    Box4
    Panel: Bannister, man ram, r. johnson
    BB: 0
    Ink: 0
    Relic: Edmonds
    Chrome: 3
    REFR: 1 J. Rollins
    FBN: 2
    FB: 2
    TN: 1
    Nap: 2
    sps: 8

    Consecutive boxes with no ink dating back to 2007: 24
    Looking for Cello packs with Bill Buckner on top
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    joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    cubs ....there is no way you can keep that streak alive tonight..sorry, you will pull ink!

    Kevin
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    parkerjparkerj Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭
    Welcome, Bjbrall. Glad to see you here. Follow the link on my sig line for an excel spreadsheet with all the heritage info.
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    CubsFan41CubsFan41 Posts: 513 ✭✭
    Here's a few scans

    image
    Looking for Cello packs with Bill Buckner on top
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    mdkuommdkuom Posts: 969 ✭✭✭
    Box 2: (Goot I think we need to work a trade)

    Black refractor: Kemp
    chrome: 3
    refractor: Smoltz
    relic: Crawford
    TN: 3
    NAP: 1
    FB: 1
    NFB: 2

    image
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    Nice pulls guys.
    Cubs, I don't think that streak will last the night, and hopefully you'll end it in a big way.
    Goot & bjbrall4 welcome to the addiction!
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    GootGoot Posts: 3,496


    << <i>Box 2: (Goot I think we need to work a trade)


    refractor: Smoltz
    relic: Crawford >>



    Oh yeah we do! image
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