Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
<< <i>Yeah, I am pumped. I still have to add them yet. I also realized I never added my Otto or Chris Carter. >>
You really might make it to the top #25 w/ those as well.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
I am going to be .02 short. The jump to 24th is nuts. You need some serious purchase power to jump up .5 rating. I know I won't be collecting this set in five years or so because I refuse to buy a $1000 Brady or Manning when that kind of money could get some serious vintage. Those two cards are really going to put a damper on many collections.
I'm w/ you on Manning and Brady. The price for either in a 9 or better is ridiculous for a modern rookie.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
<< <i>I need the manning and brady. for now....can't c me spending that much on modern also. >>
I hear ya Jay. It's to pony up that kind of money for a modern card. I have the Manning and I had the Brady. I sold it a few years back when it was a $750 or so card, thinking I could buy it back for the same price at some point. Now it's a $1,000 card. Crazy, yes, but it's definitely maintaining its value.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
Sapp is suggesting that Rice be inducted over Strahan. I am a fan of Simeon Rice so I see Sapp's point. He was an amazing pass rusher who was dominant until his skills suddenly eroded. He wasn't the kind of DE who set the point of attack on the outside but he could string plays out so running backs couldn't get the edge and the interior of the defense could make a play. He also had the rare ability to run around a block if it seemed like a tackle had secured the edge. He wasn't a pass rusher who relied on power and speed or power alone but he was quick, athletic, explosive, and had enough strength to terrorize QB's and limit the outside running game. For whatever reason he is ignored for great of a player & pass rusher he was, maybe b/c he wasn't exactly a thumper or a super physical defender.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
Joe Thomas 3 yes 5 No Patrick Willis 5 yes 5 No Reggie Wayne 9 yes Shane Lechler 3 yes 2 No Haloti Ngata 1 yes 3 No Ronde Barber 3 No Andre Johnson 3 No Larry Fitzgerald 3 No Jeff Saturday 3 No Vince Wilfork 3 No Terrell Suggs 3 No John Abraham 3 No Justin Smith 1 yes 3 No
Removal:
Gary Anderson 2 yes 2 No LeRoy Butler 2 yes 2 No Jimmy Smith 2 yes 2 No Jason Elam 2 yes 2 No
Seems like Wayne would be the only one who has enough support to even be considered for the future HOF'er set.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
<< <i>Simeon Rice over Michael Strahan? You're joking right? And how can you guys leave out Larry Fitzgerald? >>
Rice was averaging nearly 12 sacks a season until his sudden decline over his last two seasons. Had his skills not eroded over night he would easily have more sacks than Strahan considering he only needed 20 more to pass him.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
Joe Thomas 3 yes 5 No Patrick Willis 5 yes 5 No Reggie Wayne 9 yes Shane Lechler 3 yes 2 No Haloti Ngata 1 yes 3 No Ronde Barber 3 No Andre Johnson 3 No Larry Fitzgerald 3 No Jeff Saturday 3 No Vince Wilfork 3 No Terrell Suggs 3 No John Abraham 3 No Justin Smith 1 yes 3 No Larry Fitzgerald 1 yes
Removal:
Gary Anderson 2 yes 2 No LeRoy Butler 2 yes 2 No Jimmy Smith 2 yes 2 No Jason Elam 2 yes 2 No
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
The Giants moved Strahan to the left side because of his run stopping abilities. Also, rushing from that side, he didn't face the QBs blind side. No disrespect to Rice but Strahan was the more complete DE
<< <i>The Giants moved Strahan to the left side because of his run stopping abilities. Also, rushing from that side, he didn't face the QBs blind side. No disrespect to Rice but Strahan was the more complete DE >>
He might of been moved b/c of his strength as a run defender but his pass rushing numbers benefited as well going against the opposing team's right tackle. Strahan might be one of the best LDE but he usually didn't face the better pass blockers in the league. Rice wasn't the kind of defender to knock OL backwards but he could get off blocks and penetrate on a consistent basis. IMO Rice was much more of a complete defender than he is given credit for b/c he was such a dominant pass rusher.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
Joe Thomas 3 yes 5 No Patrick Willis 5 yes 5 No Reggie Wayne 9 yes Shane Lechler 3 yes 2 No Haloti Ngata 1 yes 3 No Ronde Barber 3 No Andre Johnson 3 No Larry Fitzgerald 3 No Jeff Saturday 3 No Vince Wilfork 1 yes 3 No Terrell Suggs 3 No John Abraham 3 No Justin Smith 1 yes 3 No Larry Fitzgerald 1 yes
Removal:
Gary Anderson 2 yes 2 No LeRoy Butler 2 yes 2 No Jimmy Smith 2 yes 2 No Jason Elam 2 yes 2 No
After thinking about it I am going to vote for Wilfork (I know one vote makes no difference but he's been a real force since Seymour left)
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
<< <i>The 2004 Bowman is the one used for Wilfork in the All-Time Patriots set. I like the look better than most of his RCs, but the topps chrome would probably be the card >>
I have to agree on the 2004 Topps Chrome for Wilfork as well, especially since we have chosen that Brand for Manning and Roethlisberger.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
Congratulations! It doesn't get any better than Bronko's rookie card and a mid grade might as well be a 7 or 8 with how rare it is.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
Did anyone request Reggie Wayne for the Future HOF set yet?
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
Joe Thomas 3 yes 5 No Patrick Willis 5 yes 5 No Reggie Wayne 9 yes Shane Lechler 3 yes 2 No Haloti Ngata 1 yes 3 No Ronde Barber 3 No Andre Johnson 3 No Larry Fitzgerald 3 No Jeff Saturday 3 No Vince Wilfork 1 yes 3 No Terrell Suggs 3 No John Abraham 3 No Justin Smith 1 yes 3 No Larry Fitzgerald 1 yes
Wayne looks like the only candidate for the set.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
<< <i>quite possibly psa was never formally asked for a poll.
Was Jason peeples doing it? I know he left the set but still stayed on the boards. >>
I attempted to but I don't have the card in my inventory so I couldn't use that function on the edit page.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys - Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2 touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL title.
I hope to have my first addition in over a year to this set in this week. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Also, a long overdo hello to everyone, it has been quite a while since I have logged in.
Easy to forget that Guy has had his case made in the finals 7 times before...Humphries 4 times before...Guy's last look was 2008, Humphries 2009...Only a few new voters since then...Guy never even made a cut to the final 10...Humphries did once as a modern candidate, but then didn't get enough votes as a senior nominee in 2009...
Not really sure what the senior committee is thinking with either...Why not give guys a look who haven't had their cases made lately/already? How many times does a guy need to get turned down by the voters before the senior committee let's it go? To me, this is a waste of 2 spots, and I won't be shocked if neither get the votes.I know one of the cases against Guy was that voters had issue giving a punter a vote over other full time players...Well, the Senior has now done that for them..Apparently Guy was a better player for the 70s-80s Raiders than Ken Stabler, Cliff Branch and Lester Hayes...lol..Truly laughable...But maybe now, with voters only needing to vote yes or no, with no regard for stealing another players spot, that he will finally get the vote. Sad that guys like Al Wistert waste without EVER getting their case made in the HOF meeting so a few voters can push an agenda of getting a part time player into the HOF first.
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
<< <i>Did Billy Howton ever make it to the finals in voting?
added
+1 for Jasp sighting. >>
He has not...Nor have these other Senior WR candidates, who personally I would think are more deserving than even Howton:
LAVIE DILWEG OTIS TAYLOR CLIFF BRANCH BILLY WILSON DEL SHOFNER DREW PEARSON
Why bypass all these viable candidates in order to recycle guys who already had numerous discussions of their candidacy in the HOF meetings...Wasted year IMO, and really hope the voters on't cave on giving yes votes to either..Humphries is borderline deserving a best, and as great as Ray Guy was, he only played a few snaps a game and rarely scored points for his team...Always thought it was the older crew of voters keeping the Punter out, but thats exactly who picked him this year...Oh well, it is what it is...
Thanks for the +1...Senior nominee day this is always a thread I like to re-visit...Living in NJ now, building the ultimate mancave in the basement..Ready for an East Coast football season and a NJ Super Bowl in Feb!
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
Easy to forget that Guy has had his case made in the finals 7 times before...Humphries 4 times before...Guy's last look was 2008, Humphries 2009...Only a few new voters since then...Guy never even made a cut to the final 10...Humphries did once as a modern candidate, but then didn't get enough votes as a senior nominee in 2009...
Not really sure what the senior committee is thinking with either...Why not give guys a look who haven't had their cases made lately/already? How many times does a guy need to get turned down by the voters before the senior committee let's it go? To me, this is a waste of 2 spots, and I won't be shocked if neither get the votes.I know one of the cases against Guy was that voters had issue giving a punter a vote over other full time players...Well, the Senior has now done that for them..Apparently Guy was a better player for the 70s-80s Raiders than Ken Stabler, Cliff Branch and Lester Hayes...lol..Truly laughable...But maybe now, with voters only needing to vote yes or no, with no regard for stealing another players spot, that he will finally get the vote. Sad that guys like Al Wistert waste without EVER getting their case made in the HOF meeting so a few voters can push an agenda of getting a part time player into the HOF first. >>
Could not agree more. Lester Hayes and Cliff Branch should have been in years ago.
Glad 2 c Ray Guy get a good looksie. He's a deserving HOF'er.
The argument that he is not a position player. ......well...... His punting can mean the difference of 50 yards in a game vs other punters when you consider hang time, no run back, and distance.
Plus the Raiders didn't need a 3rd string QB..that saves a position right there.
How many times did he save a bad snap or even run for a 1st down?
PLUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he has a 66.6 passing completion %
Can other kickers do that? Anyone remember Garo Yepremian?
Collecting PSA... FB,BK,HK,and BB HOF RC sets 1948-76 Topps FB Sets FB & BB HOF Player sets 1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
Glad 2 c Ray Guy get a good looksie. He's a deserving HOF'er.
The argument that he is not a position player. ......well...... His punting can mean the difference of 50 yards in a game vs other punters when you consider hang time, no run back, and distance.
Plus the Raiders didn't need a 3rd string QB..that saves a position right there.
How many times did he save a bad snap or even run for a 1st down?
PLUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he has a 66.6 passing completion %
Can other kickers do that? Anyone remember Garo Yepremian? >>
Jay, you being a Raiders guy, do you believe that Guy is more deserving than Stabler? Or Branch or Lester Hayes? He was more important to the Raiders success than any of these guys were? Really my only issue with it...Branch is the only one of the 4 who's never been a finalist or had his case made...Would have much rather see him get a look.
It is what it is..I hope they vote both these senior candidates in just to get them out of the way at this point...Maybe will help Morten Andersen's case the next few years...On the senior side, maybe they finally feel comfortable enough that they have made up for the lack of defensive guys (since 2008, 7 defensive senior inductees vs. 2 senior offensive guys) and finally get one of the deserving OL, WR or QBs in...
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
This PSA 8 '58 Brown is up to $4,303 (including the buyer's premium) and it still has a day to go. Looks to be a very strong 8, but the price is still a shocker. The highest-selling PSA 8 Brown rookie in VCPs database is one that sold for $3,354 through Goodwin back in 2007. So this one has left the previous record holder in the dust. Will be interesting to see if it goes any higher. As a point of reference, the last two 8.5 sales (both of the same card) were for $5,500 and $5,352. That card is not centered quite as well as this 8.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
This PSA 8 '58 Brown is up to $4,303 (including the buyer's premium) and it still has a day to go. Looks to be a very strong 8, but the price is still a shocker. The highest-selling PSA 8 Brown rookie in VCPs database is one that sold for $3,354 through Goodwin back in 2007. So this one has left the previous record holder in the dust. Will be interesting to see if it goes any higher. As a point of reference, the last two 8.5 sales (both of the same card) were for $5,500 and $5,352. That card is not centered quite as well as this 8. >>
Nice Brown, but not sure it is THAT nice...lol
Hello to all from NJ BTW. Now living in Toms River. Its nice, but obviously not Hawaii...lol
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
Welcome to New Jersey, Jason. You're about an hour away from me. Toms River is a pretty cool town. They're crazy about Little League baseball there.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
The Brown 8 ended at $4,733.82 including the BP. Wow.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
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Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
<< <i>Yeah, I am pumped. I still have to add them yet. I also realized I never added my Otto or Chris Carter. >>
You really might make it to the top #25 w/ those as well.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
I need the manning and brady. for now....can't c me spending that much on modern also.
Now when thatlll buy ya some nice vintage.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
<< <i>I am going to be .02 short. The jump to 24th is nuts. >>
The 24th position is my set and like you I can't see myself ever picking up the Brady or Manning when needed.
Congrats on all the recent pick-ups for your set.
1959 Topps Football need help finishing
<< <i>I need the manning and brady. for now....can't c me spending that much on modern also. >>
I hear ya Jay. It's to pony up that kind of money for a modern card. I have the Manning and I had the Brady. I sold it a few years back when it was a $750 or so card, thinking I could buy it back for the same price at some point. Now it's a $1,000 card. Crazy, yes, but it's definitely maintaining its value.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
Joe Thomas 3 yes 5 No
Patrick Willis 5 yes 5 No
Reggie Wayne 9 yes
Shane Lechler 3 yes 2 No
Haloti Ngata 1 yes 3 No
Ronde Barber 3 No
Andre Johnson 3 No
Larry Fitzgerald 3 No
Jeff Saturday 3 No
Vince Wilfork 3 No
Terrell Suggs 3 No
John Abraham 3 No
Justin Smith 1 yes 3 No
Removal:
Gary Anderson 2 yes 2 No
LeRoy Butler 2 yes 2 No
Jimmy Smith 2 yes 2 No
Jason Elam 2 yes 2 No
Seems like Wayne would be the only one who has enough support to even be considered for the future HOF'er set.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
<< <i>Simeon Rice over Michael Strahan? You're joking right? And how can you guys leave out Larry Fitzgerald? >>
Rice was averaging nearly 12 sacks a season until his sudden decline over his last two seasons. Had his skills not eroded over night he would easily have more sacks than Strahan considering he only needed 20 more to pass him.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
Patrick Willis 5 yes 5 No
Reggie Wayne 9 yes
Shane Lechler 3 yes 2 No
Haloti Ngata 1 yes 3 No
Ronde Barber 3 No
Andre Johnson 3 No
Larry Fitzgerald 3 No
Jeff Saturday 3 No
Vince Wilfork 3 No
Terrell Suggs 3 No
John Abraham 3 No
Justin Smith 1 yes 3 No
Larry Fitzgerald 1 yes
Removal:
Gary Anderson 2 yes 2 No
LeRoy Butler 2 yes 2 No
Jimmy Smith 2 yes 2 No
Jason Elam 2 yes 2 No
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
<< <i>The Giants moved Strahan to the left side because of his run stopping abilities. Also, rushing from that side, he didn't face the QBs blind side. No disrespect to Rice but Strahan was the more complete DE >>
He might of been moved b/c of his strength as a run defender but his pass rushing numbers benefited as well going against the opposing team's right tackle. Strahan might be one of the best LDE but he usually didn't face the better pass blockers in the league. Rice wasn't the kind of defender to knock OL backwards but he could get off blocks and penetrate on a consistent basis. IMO Rice was much more of a complete defender than he is given credit for b/c he was such a dominant pass rusher.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
Patrick Willis 5 yes 5 No
Reggie Wayne 9 yes
Shane Lechler 3 yes 2 No
Haloti Ngata 1 yes 3 No
Ronde Barber 3 No
Andre Johnson 3 No
Larry Fitzgerald 3 No
Jeff Saturday 3 No
Vince Wilfork 1 yes 3 No
Terrell Suggs 3 No
John Abraham 3 No
Justin Smith 1 yes 3 No
Larry Fitzgerald 1 yes
Removal:
Gary Anderson 2 yes 2 No
LeRoy Butler 2 yes 2 No
Jimmy Smith 2 yes 2 No
Jason Elam 2 yes 2 No
After thinking about it I am going to vote for Wilfork (I know one vote makes no difference but he's been a real force since Seymour left)
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
<< <i>The 2004 Bowman is the one used for Wilfork in the All-Time Patriots set. I like the look better than most of his RCs, but the topps chrome would probably be the card >>
I have to agree on the 2004 Topps Chrome for Wilfork as well, especially since we have chosen that Brand for Manning and Roethlisberger.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
Dave
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
I guess if he is not on the set he didn't get the votes.
Doublecheck. I'm not 100% sure.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
Joe Thomas 3 yes 5 No
Patrick Willis 5 yes 5 No
Reggie Wayne 9 yes
Shane Lechler 3 yes 2 No
Haloti Ngata 1 yes 3 No
Ronde Barber 3 No
Andre Johnson 3 No
Larry Fitzgerald 3 No
Jeff Saturday 3 No
Vince Wilfork 1 yes 3 No
Terrell Suggs 3 No
John Abraham 3 No
Justin Smith 1 yes 3 No
Larry Fitzgerald 1 yes
Wayne looks like the only candidate for the set.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
Was Jason peeples doing it? I know he left the set but still stayed on the boards.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
<< <i>quite possibly psa was never formally asked for a poll.
Was Jason peeples doing it? I know he left the set but still stayed on the boards. >>
I attempted to but I don't have the card in my inventory so I couldn't use that function on the edit page.
Super Bowl XXVIII: Buffalo Bills vs Dallas Cowboys -
Running back Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards and 2
touchdowns earning Super Bowl MVP honors as the Cowboys
defeated the Bills 30-13 to win their second consecutive NFL
title.
HOF Article
<< <i>Ok, I can't stand it that Humphrey is getting another shot but RAY GUY made the finals. Here is to hoping he gets in.
HOF Article >>
Easy to forget that Guy has had his case made in the finals 7 times before...Humphries 4 times before...Guy's last look was 2008, Humphries 2009...Only a few new voters since then...Guy never even made a cut to the final 10...Humphries did once as a modern candidate, but then didn't get enough votes as a senior nominee in 2009...
Not really sure what the senior committee is thinking with either...Why not give guys a look who haven't had their cases made lately/already? How many times does a guy need to get turned down by the voters before the senior committee let's it go? To me, this is a waste of 2 spots, and I won't be shocked if neither get the votes.I know one of the cases against Guy was that voters had issue giving a punter a vote over other full time players...Well, the Senior has now done that for them..Apparently Guy was a better player for the 70s-80s Raiders than Ken Stabler, Cliff Branch and Lester Hayes...lol..Truly laughable...But maybe now, with voters only needing to vote yes or no, with no regard for stealing another players spot, that he will finally get the vote. Sad that guys like Al Wistert waste without EVER getting their case made in the HOF meeting so a few voters can push an agenda of getting a part time player into the HOF first.
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
added
+1 for Jasp sighting.
<< <i>Did Billy Howton ever make it to the finals in voting?
added
+1 for Jasp sighting. >>
He has not...Nor have these other Senior WR candidates, who personally I would think are more deserving than even Howton:
LAVIE DILWEG
OTIS TAYLOR
CLIFF BRANCH
BILLY WILSON
DEL SHOFNER
DREW PEARSON
Why bypass all these viable candidates in order to recycle guys who already had numerous discussions of their candidacy in the HOF meetings...Wasted year IMO, and really hope the voters on't cave on giving yes votes to either..Humphries is borderline deserving a best, and as great as Ray Guy was, he only played a few snaps a game and rarely scored points for his team...Always thought it was the older crew of voters keeping the Punter out, but thats exactly who picked him this year...Oh well, it is what it is...
Thanks for the +1...Senior nominee day this is always a thread I like to re-visit...Living in NJ now, building the ultimate mancave in the basement..Ready for an East Coast football season and a NJ Super Bowl in Feb!
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
<< <i>
<< <i>Ok, I can't stand it that Humphrey is getting another shot but RAY GUY made the finals. Here is to hoping he gets in.
HOF Article >>
Easy to forget that Guy has had his case made in the finals 7 times before...Humphries 4 times before...Guy's last look was 2008, Humphries 2009...Only a few new voters since then...Guy never even made a cut to the final 10...Humphries did once as a modern candidate, but then didn't get enough votes as a senior nominee in 2009...
Not really sure what the senior committee is thinking with either...Why not give guys a look who haven't had their cases made lately/already? How many times does a guy need to get turned down by the voters before the senior committee let's it go? To me, this is a waste of 2 spots, and I won't be shocked if neither get the votes.I know one of the cases against Guy was that voters had issue giving a punter a vote over other full time players...Well, the Senior has now done that for them..Apparently Guy was a better player for the 70s-80s Raiders than Ken Stabler, Cliff Branch and Lester Hayes...lol..Truly laughable...But maybe now, with voters only needing to vote yes or no, with no regard for stealing another players spot, that he will finally get the vote. Sad that guys like Al Wistert waste without EVER getting their case made in the HOF meeting so a few voters can push an agenda of getting a part time player into the HOF first. >>
Could not agree more. Lester Hayes and Cliff Branch should have been in years ago.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
<< <i>Love that warfield card >>
Thanks! I do too, I have been wanting one for quite a while, very happy with this one!
Glad 2 c Ray Guy get a good looksie. He's a deserving HOF'er.
The argument that he is not a position player. ......well...... His punting can mean the difference of 50 yards in a game vs other punters
when you consider hang time, no run back, and distance.
Plus the Raiders didn't need a 3rd string QB..that saves a position right there.
How many times did he save a bad snap or even run for a 1st down?
PLUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he has a 66.6 passing completion %
Can other kickers do that? Anyone remember Garo Yepremian?
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
<< <i>awesome warfield.
Glad 2 c Ray Guy get a good looksie. He's a deserving HOF'er.
The argument that he is not a position player. ......well...... His punting can mean the difference of 50 yards in a game vs other punters
when you consider hang time, no run back, and distance.
Plus the Raiders didn't need a 3rd string QB..that saves a position right there.
How many times did he save a bad snap or even run for a 1st down?
PLUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he has a 66.6 passing completion %
Can other kickers do that? Anyone remember Garo Yepremian? >>
Jay, you being a Raiders guy, do you believe that Guy is more deserving than Stabler? Or Branch or Lester Hayes? He was more important to the Raiders success than any of these guys were? Really my only issue with it...Branch is the only one of the 4 who's never been a finalist or had his case made...Would have much rather see him get a look.
It is what it is..I hope they vote both these senior candidates in just to get them out of the way at this point...Maybe will help Morten Andersen's case the next few years...On the senior side, maybe they finally feel comfortable enough that they have made up for the lack of defensive guys (since 2008, 7 defensive senior inductees vs. 2 senior offensive guys) and finally get one of the deserving OL, WR or QBs in...
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
looking for a nice example of any of the following:
1957 Topps Ray Berry
1950 Bowman Otto Graham
1956 Topps Lenny Moore
1957 Topps Paul Hornung
or any nice midgrade hofer from this era.
PSA 8 '58 Brown
This PSA 8 '58 Brown is up to $4,303 (including the buyer's premium) and it still has a day to go. Looks to be a very strong 8, but the price is still a shocker. The highest-selling PSA 8 Brown rookie in VCPs database is one that sold for $3,354 through Goodwin back in 2007. So this one has left the previous record holder in the dust. Will be interesting to see if it goes any higher. As a point of reference, the last two 8.5 sales (both of the same card) were for $5,500 and $5,352. That card is not centered quite as well as this 8.
<< <i>Holy Jim Brown rookie!
PSA 8 '58 Brown
This PSA 8 '58 Brown is up to $4,303 (including the buyer's premium) and it still has a day to go. Looks to be a very strong 8, but the price is still a shocker. The highest-selling PSA 8 Brown rookie in VCPs database is one that sold for $3,354 through Goodwin back in 2007. So this one has left the previous record holder in the dust. Will be interesting to see if it goes any higher. As a point of reference, the last two 8.5 sales (both of the same card) were for $5,500 and $5,352. That card is not centered quite as well as this 8. >>
Nice Brown, but not sure it is THAT nice...lol
Hello to all from NJ BTW. Now living in Toms River. Its nice, but obviously not Hawaii...lol
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
Most of my auction wins and some I didn't even are over the highest VCP ever lately.
Nice J Brown. Mostly because of the sharp black color w/o snow.
As Andy pointed out.....someone odviously thinks that card can bump.
Did anyone see the PSA 10 Ray Guy RC 1/1 final price? Someone thinks he's a HOF'er.
Humphrey gets in also.
and yes welcome to the east coast jason.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
<< <i>Did anyone see the PSA 10 Ray Guy RC 1/1 final price? Someone thinks he's a HOF'er. >>
I had a hunch the first one would push 3k because of HOF and Raiders registries but this got the PWCC nudge as well. Still...what a phenomenal card!!
Since the Ozzie Newsome finally popped not too long ago, how many more dominos left to fall?