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  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    I thought some of you out there would appreciate this--I received a second offer for ungraded set I bid on this week--$2800.00. After the pay pal fee and the eBay fee the seller would be losing money. I decided to pass.

    I got stung on a high end purchase of a graded Library of Congress commem--Pay Pal stepped in, but it took an aweful lot of work. I learned if a second chance offer is too appealing PASS on it.

    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I thought some of you out there would appreciate this--I received a second offer for ungraded set I bid on this week--$2800.00. After the pay pal fee and the eBay fee the seller would be losing money. I decided to pass.

    I got stung on a high end purchase of a graded Library of Congress commem--Pay Pal stepped in, but it took an aweful lot of work. I learned if a second chance offer is too appealing PASS on it. >>



    A 100 % phony offer for ungraded set
  • Go figure, a few hours after that other NCG 69 set sells for $3701, another NGC 69 set with the identical description and photos from the same seller sells for $575 more at $4276. Link to auction

    I believe that there are opportunities for patient buyers looking towards the long term. I don't think there is any need to hurry to buy. The ask on buy-it-nows has dropped to $4600, with many more sets offered higher. Standing bids seem to have pretty much disappeared. The two NGC auctions cited demonstrate that prices can vary widely even within a one-day time period.


  • << <i>I thought some of you out there would appreciate this--I received a second offer for ungraded set I bid on this week--$2800.00. After the pay pal fee and the eBay fee the seller would be losing money. I decided to pass.

    I got stung on a high end purchase of a graded Library of Congress commem--Pay Pal stepped in, but it took an aweful lot of work. I learned if a second chance offer is too appealing PASS on it. >>



    Most of the AGE set auctions are being targeted by scammers. Follow these tips:
    * never reply to second-chance offers that are in your email. Actually, let me add, never click on any links in email from strangers, especially official looking ones from Paypal, Ebay, big name stores, banks or credit cards. Every day thousands get duped, don't be one of them.
    * Official Ebay emails always have your full name, not your screen name. The amateur scammers will use your screen name. This one tip alone will weed out 80% of them.
    * Always verify with the seller that this is a valid offer, using ask a question at the auction link, or via MyEbay contact. Again, don't get to any of these links by clicking on a link in an email because they are very easy to fake. Use a saved link or type it in. This additional step will weed out the rest of the scammers.
    * Don't be in a hurry. Valid offers are good for some time. Scammers want people to hurry and make mistakes.

  • Good grief, a PCGS perfect 70 set is at almost $17k on eBay right now with almost 4 days to go!

    LINK

  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭
    woooooooohooooooooooooooooooooo

    Go baby goooooooooooooooooooooooooo


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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Good grief, a PCGS perfect 70 set is at almost $17k on eBay right now with almost 4 days to go!

    LINK >>



    Reserve not met.

    That seller is a greedy idiot.

    Russ, NCNE
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Good grief, a PCGS perfect 70 set is at almost $17k on eBay right now with almost 4 days to go!

    LINK >>



    Reserve not met.

    That seller is a greedy idiot.

    Russ, NCNE >>



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  • That seller is a greedy idiot.

    He sure does have a high reserve! Holy cow. I thought reserves were more often used to protect a seller against losing money as opposed to guaranteeing a huge profit? Well, it is the free market and the rules are there are no rules I guess excepting fraudmisleading ads, etc. I guess since he's the only guy on eBay with one of these he has the upper hand right now. The players for those sets have the big bucks unlike mear mortals like meimage

    WF
  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Go figure, a few hours after that other NCG 69 set sells for $3701, another NGC 69 set with the identical description and photos from the same seller sells for $575 more at $4276. Link to auction

    I believe that there are opportunities for patient buyers looking towards the long term. I don't think there is any need to hurry to buy. The ask on buy-it-nows has dropped to $4600, with many more sets offered higher. Standing bids seem to have pretty much disappeared. The two NGC auctions cited demonstrate that prices can vary widely even within a one-day time period. >>




    How right you are.....Today a NGC -70 3 pc set sold for 6100.09 on Ebay an all time low..price was 1200.00 lower than the week before..But get this ,an EMPTY 2006 Anniv box is going for $$$$ 510.00 .....still time to bid until tommorrow
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977


    << <i>Edit: Oh, and lookie here. ICG has their own marketing gimmick for these, too. >>

    At least this marketing gimmick shows some integrity. "First Day of Issue™" is what it is and does not magically redefine a long standing numismatic term. Bravo ICG!
  • 10K of that 17K is the regular proof 70.

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  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭


    << <i>10K of that 17K is the regular proof 70. >>



    Man you are really making it hard to get this coin. LOL

    Stop telling everyone what a winner this coin is please.

    Remember ignorance is bliss.

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  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭
    The PCGS 70 reverse proof goes for around 4300(teletrade) to 5200(ebay). I think its the regular first strike 70 DCAM that is commanding the most out of the set.
    $5600 reverse proof
    $8000 regular DCAM
    $3000 MS 70
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm wondering if these coins will keep the current value they are selling at or if sanity will be restored in a few years.
    Many happy BST transactions


  • << <i>I'm wondering if these coins will keep the current value they are selling at or if sanity will be restored in a few years. >>



    Always remember the cliche that for every buyer there is a seller.

    Long term, my crystal ball shows a price much, much higher. However, I see that move helped by a large up move in gold bullion to over $1000 an ounce. Without that tailwind the price of the sets will have a difficult time going above the highs we have seen this fall. Quite a few of those secondary market buyers will want to get out at break even or a small profit if the market gives them a chance. Some of the not-so-sharp who bought near the highs, might be on relatively shaky financial ground and extended themselves quite a bit to buy these sets. Minor mishaps could brings some of these sets back on the market in a short time period. Buying high and selling low is often the path of the not-so-sharp hot-money crowd.
  • aficionadoaficionado Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The PCGS 70 reverse proof goes for around 4300(teletrade) to 5200(ebay). I think its the regular first strike 70 DCAM that is commanding the most out of the set.
    $5600 reverse proof
    $8000 regular DCAM
    $3000 MS 70 >>




    The fact is the Rev Pr. WILL be the key coin. There are only 10,000 of these...

    You can slap all the lipstick you want on the "W" and the Regular Proof, but the fact is there will be 50,000 regular proofs and over 30,000 Unc. "W".

    At the end of the day only 10,000 people, check that, 9996 people (I have 4 of them), will be able to own the Rev. Proof.

    10 - 20 years from now will anyone care about if the 50,000 minted Regular proof has a label on it ??? Or will they pay a premium for one of the Rev. Pr. that so rarely come up for auction ??




  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭
    The DCAM 70 is necessary to have a complete 70 set. So far only 60 complete 70 sets can be made. So selling it as a single will demand a premium. This may change depending on the pops.
  • aficionadoaficionado Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The DCAM 70 is necessary to have a complete 70 set. So far only 60 complete 70 sets can be made. So selling it as a single will demand a premium. This may change depending on the pops. >>



    I do agree, I'd like one myself.

    But, if I had a 1 year old kid that I wanted to buy a coin for, what would I buy??? The Rev. Pr.

  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    The prices between PCGS and NGC graded AGE's sold on eBay have continued to widen significantly.

    The average MS-69 graded by PCGS of which 21 have sold is $805, with the most recent at $743 and $850. Compare this to the average NGC MS-69 of which 37 have sold with an average price of $698, with the last two selling at $685 and $617!!! That fellow sold his graded coin for about $12 above melt!

    MS-70 prices recognized on eBay shows an even greater disparity Of the 22 graded by PCGS, the average price has been $1898, with the last three sales at $2024, $1995 and $1900. Compare this to NGC MS-70: 69 have sold with an average price of $1130, with recent prices below $900--last 4 sold at $836, $896, $860 and $805!!! That's a full $1000 less than PCGS graded MS-70s!

    So far sold on eBay, there have only been 70 coins graded a perfect 70 by PCGS. (This includes both singles and sets) Compare this to NGC: An amazingly high total of 315 coins have sold either individually or in sets with a grade of 70.

    Where it comes through most is when comparing the full 70 sets: So far only 6 PCGS 70 AGE sets have sold on eBay with an average price of $13,073 and climbing steadily. There's one available this week with a current bid of $16,900. There have been 72 NGC Graded 70 AGE sets sold with an average price of $7,428, with more recent sets all selling at $6900 or below. Once sold yesterday at $6001. That's more than a $10,000 difference!




    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the research. Mine are en-route to PCGS now. I hope to add to the 70 stack..... specially the regular proof!

    Silver MS FS
    PCGS No: 89991
    Date: 2006-W
    Denom: $1
    Variety: Eagle-20th Anniversary First S
    Desig: MS
    68: 200
    69: 463
    70: 0 0%
    Total: 663

    Silver Proof FS
    PCGS No: 89996
    Date: 2006-W
    Denom: $1
    Variety: Eagle-20th Anniversary First S
    Desig: PRDC
    68: 20
    69: 274
    70: 43 12.75% or about 1 in 8
    Total: 337

    Silver Rev Proof FS
    PCGS No: 899977
    Date: 2006-P
    Denom: $1
    Variety: Eagle-20th Anniv. Reverse Proo
    Desig: PR
    68: 94
    69: 221
    70: 6 1.87% or about 1 in 53
    Total: 321

    -----------------------------------GOLD-----------------------------------------

    Gold MS FS
    PCGS No: 89993
    Date: 2006-W
    Denom: $50
    Variety: Eagle-20th Anniversary First S
    Desig: MS
    68: 1
    69: 1357
    70: 266 16.38% or about 1 in 6
    Total: 1624

    Gold Proof FS
    PCGS No: 89997
    Date: 2006-W
    Denom: $50
    Variety: Eagle- 20th Anniversary First
    Desig: PRDC
    68: 1
    69: 823
    70: 60 6.79% or about 1 in 15
    Total: 884

    Gold Rev Proof FS??
    PCGS No: 89995
    Date: 2006-W
    Denom: $50
    Variety: Eagle-20th Anniversary Rev Pro
    Desig: PR
    68: 0
    69: 621
    70: 589 48.68% or about 1 in 2
    Total: 1210
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  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    Good work. Thanks for the update.
    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • Great research guys and I appreciate the numbers. However, on the Silver Anniversary 70 Rev. Proof - it would be 1.87% not 18%.

    For a PCGS coin that is going to be the big winner since they won't do any MS70.

    Swest
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Latest eBay auction for an AEG MS/PR70 set...................


    .....................thought it would have gone off higher.


    Your thoughts??



    Link


  • << <i>Latest eBay auction for an AEG MS/PR70 set...................


    .....................thought it would have gone off higher.


    Your thoughts??



    Link >>



    $6600 seems about right for a NGC all 70 set. Someone reported one crossing at $6100. There are probably five NGCs for every PCGS all 70 sets. Be patient, if this is what you would like to buy. If selling, hope for two or more hot bidders.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has our eBay buddy thom625 lost it????......or will he be a huge winner???

    Think he did a bit of "mixing and matching" AEG sets????


    This one is worth following.......your thoughts most welcomed.



    thom
  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Has our eBay buddy thom625 lost it????......or will he be a huge winner???

    Think he did a bit of "mixing and matching" AEG sets????


    This one is worth following.......your thoughts most welcomed.



    thom >>



    He has been selling some Raw setrs around 4500-4800 ....AGEs he still is up
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    eBay: PCGS Graded FIRST STRIKE Proof 20th Anniversary Eagle DCAM-70: $11,795!!!

    Is this what Greenspan meant about 'irrational exuberance'?
    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • All of this data is fantastic if a bit confusing. Would someone like to take a stab at what they think a set like this should sell for?

    PCGS First Strike - 20th Anniversary
    MS69
    Reverse PF69
    PF70 DCAM (!)

    If one were wanting to maximize their profit would they sell now or hold? Sell as a set or piecemeal?
    Currently looking for space-themed coins as well as these wantlists:
    Buffalo Nickel Wantlist
    Circulated TypeSet Wantlist
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭
    16K.

    The DCAM alone is 12K
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  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭
    Piece meal. Good question on sell or hold. I think with the low pop of DCAMs I would sell now.
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  • << <i>All of this data is fantastic if a bit confusing. Would someone like to take a stab at what they think a set like this should sell for?

    PCGS First Strike - 20th Anniversary
    MS69
    Reverse PF69
    PF70 DCAM (!)

    If one were wanting to maximize their profit would they sell now or hold? Sell as a set or piecemeal? >>



    Piecemeal. The PR70 DCAM is what people want from your set and the other coins might get lost in the mix. They have a better shot of realizing their full value on their own.

    Oh, as to value: $11k for the pr70 dcam, $3.3k for the rev. proof, and $0.7k for the ms69.

    So, $15k total (minus any ebay/paypal fees).
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    Does anyone know how many of each issue NGC has graded?
    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!


  • << <i>Does anyone know how many of each issue NGC has graded? >>



    2006 W REVERSE PF G$50 EAGLE 20TH ANNIVERSARY PF = 1835 (of which 993 [54%] grade PF70)

    2006 W G$50 EAGLE 20TH ANNIVERSARY PFUC = 1855 (of which 835 [45%] graded PF70 )

    2006 W G$50 EAGLE 20TH ANNIVERSARY MS = 3644 (of which 1813 [48%] graded MS70)
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    Thank you Elysium.

    If my math is correct that means 3302 Gold Reverse Proofs have been graded by PCGS and NGC already!

    As many collectors have no intention of having their sets graded, I wonder just how many sets the mint has yet to deliver.
    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • aficionadoaficionado Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭


    << <i>eBay: PCGS Graded FIRST STRIKE Proof 20th Anniversary Eagle DCAM-70: $11,795!!!

    Is this what Greenspan meant about 'irrational exuberance'? >>



    I understand that people want a complete set. But years from now the Rev. Pr. will be the key with only 10,000 coins. 50,000 regular proofs just ain't going to cut it, no matter what label is on it.

  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
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    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>eBay: PCGS Graded FIRST STRIKE Proof 20th Anniversary Eagle DCAM-70: $11,795!!!

    Is this what Greenspan meant about 'irrational exuberance'? >>



    I understand that people want a complete set. But years from now the Rev. Pr. will be the key with only 10,000 coins. 50,000 regular proofs just ain't going to cut it, no matter what label is on it. >>



    Sorry, but I do not buy calling the Reverse Proof a "key date". This is not a date/MM series that needs to be assembled. The RP coins were issued as part of the set.

  • What are the most current prices for the PCGS 70's First Strike Gold Eagles?

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  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>eBay: PCGS Graded FIRST STRIKE Proof 20th Anniversary Eagle DCAM-70: $11,795!!!

    Is this what Greenspan meant about 'irrational exuberance'? >>



    I understand that people want a complete set. But years from now the Rev. Pr. will be the key with only 10,000 coins. 50,000 regular proofs just ain't going to cut it, no matter what label is on it. >>



    Sorry, but I do not buy calling the Reverse Proof a "key date". This is not a date/MM series that needs to be assembled. The RP coins were issued as part of the set. >>



    I think what can said is that years down the road..the RP will be more sought after, than the PRF DCAM..not only less relative RP mintage..but also more demand for the RPs....

    Did any one notice the #1 2006 AGE buyer in the past month ..thom ---is now selling ? Looks like his gains have sharply eroded with the decline in the 2006 AGEs. and also , being eaten up with Ebay selling fees
    The saying is still true ....know when to hold and when to fold
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭
    UPDATE 7 Nov 06

    Silver MS FS
    PCGS No: 89991
    Date: 2006-W
    Denom: $1
    Variety: Eagle-20th Anniversary First S
    Desig: MS
    68: 415
    69: 754
    70: 0 0%
    Total: 1169

    Silver Proof FS
    PCGS No: 89996
    Date: 2006-W
    Denom: $1
    Variety: Eagle-20th Anniversary First S
    Desig: PRDC
    68: 38
    69: 619
    70: 114 14.8%
    Total: 771

    Silver Rev Proof FS
    PCGS No: 899977
    Date: 2006-P
    Denom: $1
    Variety: Eagle-20th Anniv. Reverse Proo
    Desig: PR
    68: 234
    69: 470
    70: 23 3.1%
    Total: 727

    -----------------------------------GOLD-----------------------------------------

    Gold MS FS
    PCGS No: 89993
    Date: 2006-W
    Denom: $50
    Variety: Eagle-20th Anniversary First S
    Desig: MS
    68: 1
    69: 1646
    70: 321 (16.3%)
    Total: 1968

    Gold Proof FS
    PCGS No: 89997
    Date: 2006-W
    Denom: $50
    Variety: Eagle- 20th Anniversary First
    Desig: PRDC
    68: 4
    69: 1041
    70: 87 7.7%
    Total: 1132

    Gold Rev Proof FS
    PCGS No: 89995
    Date: 2006-W
    Denom: $50
    Variety: Eagle-20th Anniversary Rev Pro
    Desig: PR
    68: 0
    69: 784
    70: 722 48%
    Total: 1506
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Latest PR70 AGE 3 coin set on eBay.

    Seems to be finding its niche of late.



    eBay Latest
  • Coins101Coins101 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Latest PR70 AGE 3 coin set on eBay.

    Seems to be finding its niche of late.



    eBay Latest >>



    NGC graded set. A PCGS would be double+ that.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has anyone seen a 20th AGE(proof coin only) PCGS First Strike PR70 DCAM go for $11,200?????????

    It's not even the reverse proof........what am I missing here???


    eBay
  • Actually, yes the 1st one went for 11795.00

    link to 11795.00

    The one for 11200.00 was mine, the dcam is much rarer than the reverse proof
    Michael
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,311 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Actually, yes the 1st one went for 11795.00

    link to 11795.00

    The one for 11200.00 was mine, the dcam is much rarer than the reverse proof >>





    If your coin was graded by NGC it would have been graded Ultra Cameo, I believe.


    Why does PCGS's DCAM command such a high premium??


    Is Ultra Cam the same as DCAM??


    This grading process is quite confusing to a newbie like moi.


    Thanks in advance.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Actually, yes the 1st one went for 11795.00

    link to 11795.00

    The one for 11200.00 was mine, the dcam is much rarer than the reverse proof >>





    If your coin was graded by NGC it would have been graded Ultra Cameo, I believe.


    Why does PCGS's DCAM command such a high premium??


    Is Ultra Cam the same as DCAM??


    This grading process is quite confusing to a newbie like moi.


    Thanks in advance. >>



    The way almost all prices are set, supply and demand. NGC has graded a much higher percentage of coins at 70. Larger supply means a lower price. There are several posts in the thread with percentages of 70s at PCGS and NGC. A person can figure out why the prices are what they are from those 69/70 ratios.
  • Goldbully

    DCAM from PCGS and Ultra Cameo fro NGC are the same thing. But I believe NGC to be tougher with the cameo designations.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Actually, yes the 1st one went for 11795.00

    link to 11795.00

    The one for 11200.00 was mine, the dcam is much rarer than the reverse proof >>





    If your coin was graded by NGC it would have been graded Ultra Cameo, I believe.


    Why does PCGS's DCAM command such a high premium??



    Is Ultra Cam the same as DCAM??


    This grading process is quite confusing to a newbie like moi.


    Thanks in advance. >>



    Pcgs commands more money in the market place for the modern seies. I think it is because the demand for PCGS is much greater. NGC hands out the 70 UCAM like candy on halloween.
    Luck happens when preparation meets opportunity.
  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭
    So when do you think the gold sets will rebound in value.

    I am wishing I sold my 69dcam/70/70 set when I could have for $8500

    Will it be worth more in the long haul?

    I guess I should be happy it was free, since the other set I had and sold paid for both.

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