I think we are all holding our breath waiting for the Mint to stop sending out the coins. (those who have them that is). I'd like to see the number on ebay fall.
On a brighter note:
I sent two Rev Pr. to PCGS, the best I had, with no marks or anything..... I got: 1 PR70 !!!!! and 1 PR69 (dang). I guess this is proof a regular submission can get a 70, just not two.
The thing is, I was hoping for two 70's then I could sell one and keep one. Now, I don't want to sell my best coin !!!
<< <i>I think we are all holding our breath waiting for the Mint to stop sending out the coins. (those who have them that is). I'd like to see the number on ebay fall.
On a brighter note:
I sent two Rev Pr. to PCGS, the best I had, with no marks or anything..... I got: 1 PR70 !!!!! and 1 PR69 (dang). I guess this is proof a regular submission can get a 70, just not two.
The thing is, I was hoping for two 70's then I could sell one and keep one. Now, I don't want to sell my best coin !!!
<< <i>So you opened them up and went for broke huh?
No first strike bs for you?
Rob >>
I was one of the first to get the coins, so the rules were not out yet, thus the box was opened.
I got the First Strike and 20th. label. PCGS will allow FS/20th for the Unc "W" and the Rev Pr. for the first 30 days. After that you need a sealed box.
But, these were spotless gems. My Unc "W" wouldn't have been 70's, they had a 'shiny' nick or two or three, on them.
The Reg. proofs are really nice and I might have a 70, I really didn't look to hard because they are not eligable for the labels, so I can grade later or not grade at all.
Bottom line is: I had 10 sets, sent in my best two coins and got 1 - 70. Those are your odds folks and I figure I'm one of the lucky ones.
As of this afternoon, they moved a lot of the backorders to expect shipment 11/6/06...I assume that meant that the orders might only be filled if people returned their's, and that I was out of luck.
When I spoke with a mint rep, she assured me saying that more would be delivered next week--
I'm so sick of this. Why can't they just be square with collectors?
<< <i>just got off the phone with the mint, i guess someone else will get my set. seems they are using older/out of date account info or something. track order page still says in stock and reserved but customer service person tells me that my visa CC denied the ammount. i tell her i have a mastercard registered with my account and they say nothing can be done. i hang up and go into my account online and there is my mastercard info. no visa. i probably used one in the past but its not recent. i got screwed. oh well... >>
This sounds familiar! Happened to me in the past. In my case, I notified the mint of the credit card changes. And they still had the old credit card info somewhere on file, causing my coin order to get cancelled.
IMHO, the best thing to do is cancel your account with the mint and set up another one because the mint WILL NOT contact you if there are discrepancies with your account!!
I agree! "U got screwed." It's unfortunate, and I'm sorry to hear that. It's to bad the mint doesn't have better customer service to address issues such as these!
SoundPoint >>
thats a good idea and i will do this when i can. i have 10 silver sets on order along with legacy sets and don`t want to loose them. i`ve been on the phone with them to get this straightened out. now i have to wait and see. funny how my AGE set is still saying in stock and reserved for a week now and have already been told i will not get it. .gov moves very slowly.
Come on ...can't let this thread die down.. for the many who were disappointed for no 3 pc sets ..don't give up. Over the last week, put together a 69 NGC set for a combined $ 3,600.00 . Keep on trying ..buy dips
<< <i>Here's a dutch auction where three sets sold for $4412. >>
Raw in original box set will sell for more than a NGC 69 set. >>
It is still a good idea to include the data and note that these were NGC graded coins, or add a footnote that says raw sets only. That said, I'm not doing the leg work on the project, so whatever numbers are provided, I do appreciate it.
I don't really know, but check David Lawrence's site. He has prices in his auctions, as well as, fixed pricing in the $6000 range for certified and non. Regards, Michael
What's happening on ebay is interesting. the higher prices are maintaining slightly above $5100 mark, but there are a lot more $5400s and above just sitting there now with no bids.
Whereas a week ago it was rare to see any trade at $4850-4800 now the lower end price is moving lower still.
It should be interesting to see what happens if the mint delivers more this week or next.
<< <i>What's happening on ebay is interesting. the higher prices are maintaining slightly above $5100 mark, but there are a lot more $5400s and above just sitting there now with no bids.
Whereas a week ago it was rare to see any trade at $4850-4800 now the lower end price is moving lower still.
It should be interesting to see what happens if the mint delivers more this week or next. >>
The 3 pc raw sets today are trading in the area of $$ 4700 - 4800 vs a top of $$ 6100 on October 10th . The raw sets will continue to drift lower , but the NGC 69 sets will continue to firm. The NGC 70 and PCGS 70 sets have not been able to hold their price levels which suggests lower prices ahead.
There's an inventory overhang as the flippers sell to cover their CC bills. In adition, no one really knows whether all have been distributed from the Mint as of yet. The market will settle, the excess dry up, and the ball game will change.
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NGC universe is much larger with 86 individual coins and 74 sets sell on eBay:
Prices are much lower as 70s seem to be a very high percentage of grades.
On eBay there have only been 428 ungraded sets sold since presales started listing with an average price of $4122. Prices peaked on October 5 at $5640 per set and have been declining steadily ever since. The average price this week has been $4896, including a couple of unopened mailings from the mint.
The IRS MAN is salivating..... over 2 Mil.. of Ebay sales for 4 weeks of 2006 AGEs. Have a set of NGC 70s and some of PCGS 69s ..they all look great. Why so few sets of PCGS ?
Mint is showing my set shipped on Oct. 7 by USPS. I still haven't recieved it. Customer Service is telling me 2-3 weeks by mail. The tracking number on the mint's web site won't track. I usually get less expensive items from mint in about 3 days. I guess I'll sit tight for a couple more days to see what happens.
You have a problem. Your set should have been an overnight delivery. Whoever told you 2 or 3 weeks didn't know what they were talking about. The fact that your tracking number doesn't work should be a BIG RED FLAG.
My sets came overnight via FedEx. Get the proper tracking number from the mint and contact FedEx.
I have always wondered if the IRS tracks ebay auctions and such.
As only an occasionally seller, it doesn't have much impact on me. But I am selling an AGE set. Is it pretty common practice to declare this stuff now?
<< <i>It is a legal requirement. The penalties for not declaring are pretty stiff, not to metion the living hell you will experience going through an audit >>
Do you have to declare all profits made on coins, or is there a minimum $$ amount?
What if you trade your AGE set for another coin? Is there still a tax liability?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
MCADSPEC--If the mint sent the coins via USPS then they sent the coins Registered mail. I got 9 sets to my po box and the actual shipping date on the box was several days after the mints official ship date. I wouldn't worry about it. If they say the set was shipped you'll get it. Just not as fast as Fed Ex.
The 3 pc AGE set topped out on Ebay ... Monday Oct 10 13:15 PDT..at $$ 6100.00. NGC universe is much larger with 86 individual coins and 74 sets sell on eBay:
Prices are much lower as 70s seem to be a very high percentage of grades.
On eBay there have only been 428 ungraded sets sold since presales started listing with an average price of $4122. Prices peaked on October 5 at $5640 per set and have been declining steadily ever since. The average price this week has been $4896, including a couple of unopened mailings from the mint. >>
Which doesn't include eBay auctions where buyers names are kept private!!!! >>
He is now selling some on Ebay ..PCGS
He picked up quite a few more sets... almost every auction had his name in the mix .Prices have come back ... he is not the big winner when prices were in space .His bids followed a certain pattern..but near the end he didn't chase prices.
How many of the Regular proof eagles make PRF 70 from the 4pc set ? Is this another case of a 2006 ANNIV gold PCGS MADE rarity much like Modern silver comems ? Looking at the price of a 70 set.... this coin should go for 7,000 + Nice coin in 70 though
Prices of ungraded sets are continuing to slip on ebay.
Many sets with minimum bids above $5000 are failing to get bids. One listed with a $4600 minimum bid failed to sell today. Several sets have current bids around $3900-4150. Not that they'll sell there, but it is an indication that things arestarting to cool off some recently.
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On a brighter note:
I sent two Rev Pr. to PCGS, the best I had, with no marks or anything..... I got: 1 PR70 !!!!! and 1 PR69 (dang). I guess this is proof a regular submission can get a 70, just not two.
The thing is, I was hoping for two 70's then I could sell one and keep one. Now, I don't want to sell my best coin !!!
But I'm still happy.
<< <i>I think we are all holding our breath waiting for the Mint to stop sending out the coins. (those who have them that is). I'd like to see the number on ebay fall.
On a brighter note:
I sent two Rev Pr. to PCGS, the best I had, with no marks or anything..... I got: 1 PR70 !!!!! and 1 PR69 (dang). I guess this is proof a regular submission can get a 70, just not two.
The thing is, I was hoping for two 70's then I could sell one and keep one. Now, I don't want to sell my best coin !!!
But I'm still happy.
So you opened them up and went for broke huh?
No first strike bs for you?
Rob
<< <i>Looks like it's coming back down to $5000ish.
I guess whenever the spot price of gold rallies, these sets could really take off. >>
Many NGCs coming down the supply chain.......raw set prices cannot resume uptrend until prices stabilize for graded sets..Buy the dips !!!!!
<< <i>So you opened them up and went for broke huh?
No first strike bs for you?
Rob >>
I was one of the first to get the coins, so the rules were not out yet, thus the box was opened.
I got the First Strike and 20th. label. PCGS will allow FS/20th for the Unc "W" and the Rev Pr. for the first 30 days. After that you need a sealed box.
But, these were spotless gems. My Unc "W" wouldn't have been 70's, they had a 'shiny' nick or two or three, on them.
The Reg. proofs are really nice and I might have a 70, I really didn't look to hard because they are not eligable for the labels, so I can grade later or not grade at all.
Bottom line is: I had 10 sets, sent in my best two coins and got 1 - 70. Those are your odds folks and I figure I'm one of the lucky ones.
Box of 20
So what's the status on people receiving sets from the Mint?
Are we assuming they are pretty much done?
When I spoke with a mint rep, she assured me saying that more would be delivered next week--
I'm so sick of this. Why can't they just be square with collectors?
AGE's asking price is $5850
<< <i>just got off the phone with the mint, i guess someone else will get my set. seems they are using older/out of date account info or something. track order page still says in stock and reserved but customer service person tells me that my visa CC denied the ammount. i tell her i have a mastercard registered with my account and they say nothing can be done. i hang up and go into my account online and there is my mastercard info. no visa. i probably used one in the past but its not recent. i got screwed. oh well... >>
This sounds familiar! Happened to me in the past. In my case, I notified the mint
of the credit card changes. And they still had the old credit card info somewhere
on file, causing my coin order to get cancelled.
IMHO, the best thing to do is cancel your account with the mint and set up another one
because the mint WILL NOT contact you if there are discrepancies with your account!!
I agree! "U got screwed." It's unfortunate, and I'm sorry to hear that.
It's to bad the mint doesn't have better customer service to address issues such as these!
SoundPoint >>
thats a good idea and i will do this when i can. i have 10 silver sets on order along with legacy sets and don`t want to loose them. i`ve been on the phone with them to get this straightened out. now i have to wait and see. funny how my AGE set is still saying in stock and reserved for a week now and have already been told i will not get it. .gov moves very slowly.
$5,000 Oct-13 18:20 BIN
$5,000 Oct-13 17:19
$5,395 Oct-13 16:21 BIN
$5,399 Oct-13 15:46 BIN
$4,850 Oct-13 14:56
$4,850 Oct-13 12:01
$5,200 Oct-13 03:32 BIN
$5,099 Oct-12 22:15 Best Offer
$5,000 Oct-12 20:17 Best Offer
$4,800 Oct-12 19:53 BIN
$5,201 Oct-12 16:42
$4,500 Oct-12 16:05 BIN
$5,995 Oct-12 12:55 BIN
$5,100 Oct-12 11:55
$5,300 Oct-12 11:44
$5,199 Oct-11 19:01 BIN
$5,575 Oct-11 18:22 Best Offer
$5,395 Oct-11 15:55 BIN
$5,395 Oct-11 08:30 BIN
$5,020 Oct-11 07:05
$5,000 Oct-10 21:40 Best Offer
$5,001 Oct-10 16:44
$6,100 Oct-10 13:15
$5,995 Oct-10 12:06 BIN
$5,585 Oct-10 11:09 BIN
$5,000 Oct-10 09:31 Best Offer
$5,799 Oct-10 08:10 BIN
$5,000 Oct-10 06:54 Best Offer
$5,300 Oct-09 20:13
$4,995 Oct-09 18:59 BIN
$5,500 Oct-09 16:49 Best Offer
$5,150 Oct-09 08:12 (Two Sets $10,300)
$5,150 Oct-09 08:12 (Two Sets $10,300)
$5,400 Oct-09 07:36
$5,799 Oct-09 06:00
$5,200 Oct-09 05:08
$5,276 Oct-08 18:38
$4,926 Oct-08 18:12
$5,101 Oct-08 09:44
$5,100 Oct-07 19:07
$4,975 Oct-07 17:05
$5,100 Oct-07 16:18
$5,400 Oct-07 12:28
$5,500 Oct-07 06:15
Fill The Gap!
$4,750 1 Oct 03:33 BIN
$4,000 1 Oct 03:26 BIN
$4,595 30 Sep 20:53 BIN
$4,326 30 Sep 20:12 BIN
$4,600 30 Sep 19:30 Auction (2 Sets for $9,201)
$4,600 30 Sep 19:30 Auction (2 Sets for $9,201)
$4,499 30 Sep 19:23 BIN
$4,250 30 Sep 17:15 BIN
$4,180 30 Sep 12:52 BIN
$4,000 30 Sep 12:34 BIN
$4,080 30 Sep 07:11 BIN
$4,000 30 Sep 01:30 BIN
$3,350 29 Sep 22:20 Auction (Zero Feedback Seller)
$3,980 29 Sep 22:16 BIN
I finally picked up my package with one set from FedEx on Friday. I have not opened it.
<< <i>Here's a dutch auction where three sets sold for $4412. >>
Raw in original box set will sell for more than a NGC 69 set.
<< <i>
<< <i>Here's a dutch auction where three sets sold for $4412. >>
Raw in original box set will sell for more than a NGC 69 set. >>
It is still a good idea to include the data and note that these were NGC graded coins, or add a footnote that says raw sets only. That said, I'm not doing the leg work on the project, so whatever numbers are provided, I do appreciate it.
Then I will move to the 6000 dollar level. It should enjoy a slow
steady rise over the next 2-3 years to 10,000 per set.
Camelot
<< <i>The price will sit in the range 4800 - 5100 untill Chistmas.
Then I will move to the 6000 dollar level. It should enjoy a slow
steady rise over the next 2-3 years to 10,000 per set. >>
The easy money has been made in the AGEs...once window closes for 1st strike look for graded sets to move higher
prices in his auctions, as well as, fixed pricing in the $6000 range
for certified and non. Regards, Michael
Whereas a week ago it was rare to see any trade at $4850-4800 now the lower end price is moving lower still.
It should be interesting to see what happens if the mint delivers more this week or next.
<< <i>What's happening on ebay is interesting. the higher prices are maintaining slightly above $5100 mark, but there are a lot more $5400s and above just sitting there now with no bids.
Whereas a week ago it was rare to see any trade at $4850-4800 now the lower end price is moving lower still.
It should be interesting to see what happens if the mint delivers more this week or next. >>
The 3 pc raw sets today are trading in the area of $$ 4700 - 4800 vs a top of $$ 6100 on October 10th . The raw sets will continue to drift lower , but the NGC 69 sets will continue to firm. The NGC 70 and PCGS 70 sets have not been able to hold their price levels which suggests lower prices ahead.
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Gold Set price to the moon. "To the moon Alice".
Camelot
PCGS has had 31 individual coins and only 9 sets sell on eBay.
Average PCGS Prices on eBay during October:
MS-69: $ 832 and declining
MS-70: $1,899 and declining
Proof-69: $ 910
Rev P 70: $5,826
69 Set: $ 5,300
RevP70/MS69/DCAM69: $ 7,700
RevP70/MS70/DCAM69: $ 8,500
70 Set: $12,400
NGC universe is much larger with 86 individual coins and 74 sets sell on eBay:
Prices are much lower as 70s seem to be a very high percentage of grades.
On eBay there have only been 428 ungraded sets sold since presales started listing with an average price of $4122. Prices peaked on October 5 at $5640 per set and have been declining steadily ever since. The average price this week has been $4896, including a couple of unopened mailings from the mint.
Why so few sets of PCGS ?
You have a problem. Your set should have been an overnight delivery. Whoever told you 2 or 3 weeks didn't know what they were talking about. The fact that your tracking number doesn't work should be a BIG RED FLAG.
My sets came overnight via FedEx. Get the proper tracking number from the mint and contact FedEx.
Hope it works out for you.
Michael
As only an occasionally seller, it doesn't have much impact on me. But I am selling an AGE set. Is it pretty common practice to declare this stuff now?
<< <i>It is a legal requirement. The penalties for not declaring are pretty stiff, not to metion the living hell you will experience going through an audit >>
Do you have to declare all profits made on coins, or is there a minimum $$ amount?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Hopefully this is helpful to collectors interested in this stuff:
PCGS has had 31 individual coins and only 9 sets sell on eBay.
Average PCGS Prices on eBay during October:
MS-69: $ 832 and declining
MS-70: $1,899 and declining
Proof-69: $ 910
Rev P 70: $5,826
69 Set: $ 5,300
RevP70/MS69/DCAM69: $ 7,700
RevP70/MS70/DCAM69: $ 8,500
70 Set: $12,400
The 3 pc AGE set topped out on Ebay ... Monday Oct 10 13:15 PDT..at $$ 6100.00.
NGC universe is much larger with 86 individual coins and 74 sets sell on eBay:
Prices are much lower as 70s seem to be a very high percentage of grades.
On eBay there have only been 428 ungraded sets sold since presales started listing with an average price of $4122. Prices peaked on October 5 at $5640 per set and have been declining steadily ever since. The average price this week has been $4896, including a couple of unopened mailings from the mint. >>
The figures I quoted was the daily average-recognizing that there are always going to be high and low outliers.
TWENTY-EIGHT
of these sets!
Which doesn't include eBay auctions where buyers names are kept private!!!!
<< <i>By the way, thom625 has picked up
TWENTY-EIGHT
of these sets!
Which doesn't include eBay auctions where buyers names are kept private!!!! >>
He's trying to corner the market. Only 9,972 more to go.
<< <i>By the way, thom625 has picked up
TWENTY-EIGHT
of these sets!
Which doesn't include eBay auctions where buyers names are kept private!!!! >>
He is now selling some on Ebay ..PCGS
He picked up quite a few more sets... almost every auction had his name in the mix .Prices have come back ... he is not the big winner when prices were in space .His bids followed a certain pattern..but near the end he didn't chase prices.
he can do is 9998. Then, I put the squeeze on him
<< <i>Dear Lord,
Could you see fit to make sure the mint sends my 3rd and final age set. Please! LOL
The way things are going I suuuuuuuuure hope I get my last set.
Even though I just paid a platinum club membership today with the intent on submitting them, I think I may keep these sealed up in the box.
I can't decide.
Rob >>
Well I did get lucky enough to get my 3rd set!!!! YEAH Thank You Lord!
My first submission has just been received, took 7 days to go cross country, now the praying really begins. Here's hoping!!!
Please could you share the first six digets of your order number?
Still waiting for any at this point though I ordered well after you.
Thanks
Well, my dream of picking up a Regular Proof PCGS 70 to round out my set is on hold.
Regular Proof ebay
Ebay # 150048025231
current bid $4400
<< <i>Well, my dream of picking up a Regular Proof PCGS 70 to round out my set is on hold.
Regular Proof ebay
Ebay # 150048025231
current bid $4400
How many of the Regular proof eagles make PRF 70 from the 4pc set ? Is this another case of a 2006 ANNIV gold PCGS MADE rarity much like Modern silver comems ? Looking at the price of a 70 set.... this coin should go for 7,000 +
Nice coin in 70 though
<< <i>holeinone1972: Congrats!
Please could you share the first six digets of your order number?
Still waiting for any at this point though I ordered well after you.
Thanks >>
231359 I shipped the 2 sets for grading, I kept 1 back in the safety deposit unopened for future speculation.
Many sets with minimum bids above $5000 are failing to get bids. One listed with a $4600 minimum bid failed to sell today. Several sets have current bids around $3900-4150. Not that they'll sell there, but it is an indication that things arestarting to cool off some recently.
<< <i>$4600 will seem like a bargain 2-3 months from now. >>
I am hoping $6k will seem like a bargain.