1963 Topps baseball - official PSA thread

psychump

Tough little card that one. Here's mine...

His wife was Jean.

psychump

Another win from Steve's auction!

mariner

Jim, that is a great looking Schilling!

qualitycards

Had a fun time catching up w/ this thread

psychump

Thanks Don! Reading this thread and looking at your cards has helped my eye! Thanks for all the kind words everybody and keep on showing the best set of the sixties! Can you imagine if they had All-Star cards at the end of the last series? I heard they ran out of time.

bishop

1963 was almost as good as 1967

Robby

@bishop said:
1963 was almost as good as 1967

1963 was almost as good as 1964

Corrected your typo for you Bishop I …………. know you meant '64

mariner

Jay, Jim and Al.....glad you all chimed in.

1963 is almost as good as 1959...

psychump

1- 1963 Welcome to sixties!
2- 1964 Nice continuation
3- 1967 Clean pics!
4- 1965 Love the pennant!
5- 1969 Front and back!
6- 1966 Good try but '67 perfected this
7- 1961 Meh, But back is dark and full of stats like an old library!
8- 1968 Front and back WEAK!
9- 1960 Stuck in the fifties
10- 1962 WOW! 1963 was an explosion! Year/life a personal pet peeve

Here is a '63 toughie! Finally pulled the trigger(not to my head but on second thought...)!

mariner

Love your list, Jim....and great Stigman card!

psychump

Thanks Don! That Stigman card was on my list forever!

mariner

Jim, did you get that item framed that I sent you? I bet it looks good on the wall if you did.

psychump

I sold it for a 5 dollar profit...
It's mine forever and you can't have it back!
Framed? I am sending it in to get slabbed then maybe framed.
Don, I absolutely love that piece and it went to a good home (mine) that cherishes it everyday.
I love that half the players have no hat or a blackened out one,it makes for good conversation.
It even has a Giant on it who went undefeated for them after the trade then at the end of his career came back to S.F. and gave it all back. Giants trades...bad dreams, horrible nightmares!

Any more info on that item would be greatly appreciated.

mariner

Jim, I am so glad that you are enjoying it and that it found a great home.

mgiobbe

Love to get my hands on a psa 9 1963 norm cash. If anyone has any info on this, let me know.

psychump

Wow! What a beaut. Wonderful pic of the forlorn Yankee slugger. My fave. Great card.

mariner

That is indeed a great Maris card....congrats!

bishop

@mariner said:
That is indeed a great Maris card....congrats!

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psychump

A sweet clean Torre. Very nice! Love that big ol' mitt!

mariner

That is indeed a beautiful Torre!

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Robby

Super nice '63 Brock …………...did you submit it...…...looks like a fairly new slab ???
Robbie

psychump

Cub fans please turn your heads away from this monster of a card! Could it be a PSA?DNA with the item on the right?

bishop

Not surprising that Brock smiles in his Cardinal cards but frowns in his Cub cards. St. Louis owes a debt of gratitude to Ernie Broglio.

Robby

I see a slight hint of a smile on his '63 card ………..but I agree with you that getting traded
to the Cardinals boosted his career tremendously !
What do you guys think of my 1963 Brock here ……….do you think the centering would
prevent it from getting a 8.5 ………...razor sharp edges , corners , gloss that looks like paint drying ,
no print blemishes anywhere ,small white specks are dust lint , and bright deep colors ! I've contemplated about subbing it for a
review ? Bought this card from Bdogecards long before Psa instituted the half point grade system !
Robbie

Robby

Sorry about including the Campbell card back

mariner

Robbie, I think that it has a shot....really nice card.

The Brock 9 is a gorgeous card too!

Robby

Bought this little known player last year in October ! Listed for
$399.99 ……...and I received 10% in E-Bay Bucks which amounted
to $40.00 ……..bringing final cost down to $360.00...……...Blank back
variety which is a little tougher to obtain then the Instruction back !
Probably overpaid , but I thought this one was a beautiful Peel Off
compared to others I've seen for sale !
Robbie

mariner

That Mantle is very nice, Robbie!

bishop

Very nice Robbie. I have a set but so far have resisted the urge to build it with all back variants

Robby

@bishop said:
Very nice Robbie. I have a set but so far have resisted the urge to build it with all back variants

I'm not really trying to obtain all the blank backs either ……….I needed the Mickey for my set
and it just happened to be the nicest one available ……….Psa allows you to mix and match in the
Instruction back set …………………..but the Blank Back Set registry requires all blank backs ! I need two more
Peel Offs to reach 100% and have a 8.00 GPA or better ! My set is ' Robbie's Floating Heads " !!!!

psychump

Of course the Giants had something to do with Brock going to the Cardinals. Ernie Broglio went 25-7 in two years with the Giant's minor league team in 1957 and '58 so what do they do? They trade him for Billy Muffett!!!! Ernie becomes a twenty game winner drinks himself off the Cards who trade him to the Cubbies and is out of the league at 30. Another disaster for the Giants. I hope Billy is enjoying his curds.
The card is sweet. I have seen a lot of '63 Brock cards that look really nice. That series seems to have an abundance of high end grades.

bishop

Psychump -- I had not previously focused on the Giants connection to Broglio and the eventual Brock deal. Interesting. Also was unaware of a drinking issue in the trade to Chicago. I do know that at the time of the trade the Cards were well aware that Broglio was developing significant arm issues. I believe Ernie is still with us.

bobsbbcards

@bishop said:
I believe Ernie is still with us.

On the message boards? Hi Ernie!

Robby

My newest addition to my Colt 45's set !
Robbie
Copied from Wiki :)J J
C's nickname was "The Spider" because of his long arms and legs which extended to prodigious lengths when he ranged after ground balls.

psychump

@bishop said:
Psychump -- I had not previously focused on the Giants connection to Broglio and the eventual Brock deal. Interesting. Also was unaware of a drinking issue in the trade to Chicago. I do know that at the time of the trade the Cards were well aware that Broglio was developing significant arm issues. I believe Ernie is still with us.

Back in the day when I sold cards at a flea market, there was this guy who would buy all cards of players from NorCal. He would hang around and tell stories of these guys. One was about Broglio. I remember him telling me that Willie Stargell played one year at Santa Rosa J.C. , One of my alma maters!

psychump

Super clean Hartman!
Here is a toughie from the mid 350's
Of course mostly a Giant! Bah.

kgibson

@bishop said:
Psychump -- I had not previously focused on the Giants connection to Broglio and the eventual Brock deal. Interesting. Also was unaware of a drinking issue in the trade to Chicago. I do know that at the time of the trade the Cards were well aware that Broglio was developing significant arm issues. I believe Ernie is still with us.

At the time of the trade Bob Gibson was critical of the Cardinals decision. After about 3 months he was heard saying "I told you that was a great trade!"

bishop

One of the best trades the Cardinals didn't make was not moving Gibson after 58 and 59. If Bob thought the Broglio trade was a bad idea I wonder how excited he was about getting Rick Wise for Steve Carlton

Robby

@psychump said:
Super clean Hartman!
Here is a toughie from the mid 350's
Of course mostly a Giant! Bah.

Nice Zanni ……….played for three teams : Win–loss record
9–6
Earned run average
3.79
Strikeouts
148
Teams
San Francisco Giants (1958–1959, 1961)
Chicago White Sox (1962–1963)
Cincinnati Reds (1963, 1965–1966)

mariner

Zanni is tough....nice!

mariner

some nice cards here and let's see some more beauties!

DBesse27

I don’t know how this is possible, but I’d never seen the 63 Torre. Awesome card!

psychump

OK Don, you ask and you shall receive! Tougher card to get without all the fish eyes in the inset photo. I lucked out and found one that had none!
Helluva batter with Detroit for years. Downhill after he was traded but who could forget years later his Wallbangers? The 1982 pennant winning Brewers who lost in 7 to the Cardinals.

Sure do like that red background in the inset!

mariner

My oh my....Jim, that is a terrific Kuenn card!

Robby

@psychump said:
OK Don, you ask and you shall receive! Tougher card to get without all the fish eyes in the inset photo. I lucked out and found one that had none!
Helluva batter with Detroit for years. Downhill after he was traded but who could forget years later his Wallbangers? The 1982 pennant winning Brewers who lost in 7 to the Cardinals.

Sure do like that red background in the inset!

Really sharp card Kuenn ! Copied from Wiki and I thought was a interesting tidbit of baseball lore !
Kuenn had the dubious distinction of making the final out in two of Sandy Koufax's four no-hitters—in 1963 and 1965. In the former, the final out was on a ground ball back to Koufax.[4] In the latter, he struck out for the final out in Koufax's perfect game.[5]
Robbie

bishop

Kuenn has a scarce variant involving a defective left border

A similar defect can be found on a card adjacent to it on the original sheets, the 1962 NL ERA Leeaders

mariner

Al, the King of variations!

psychump

Great knowledge on the Kuenn! I had no idea. Looks like it's pretty rare. I have a couple of Ralph Houk '63's and one has a glob on it. I have seen a couple of others but that looks like another scarce variant. The Houk variant is on page 7.