This is semi interesting .... from ESPN's report about the Javy trade.
ESPN's Duke Castiglione reported Friday that the player to be named is Red Sox outfielder Adam Stern. However, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays may place a waiver claim on Stern, effectively blocking him from going to Baltimore this season. If a claim is made, the Orioles would get Stern after the season.
Now, why in the world would Tampa Bay care enough to block this "prospect" from going to Baltimore now .... when they will get him anyway next spring? Am I missing something ????
softparade - Apparently the Sox called Julio Lugo's agent to inquire if his client would consider switching to secondbase and if he would sign an extension. The D'Rays were quite upset with this tactic.
<< <i>softparade - Apparently the Sox called Julio Lugo's agent to inquire if his client would consider switching to secondbase and if he would sign an extension. The D'Rays were quite upset with this tactic. >>
Ohhhhh, well then I WAS missing something. I had no clue this went down. Any links???? And thanks!
Edited to comment .... how does this hurt the Sox though? Javy is there and what do they care about the prospect that will be held up for BALTIMORE ?????
Javy Lopez went 0-5, and killed the rally in the 9th inning, ending the game as the Sox were making another comeback. He also made a bad throw in the 8th inning trying to throw out a runner that I probably could have made, and the Rays went on to score 3 runs and seal the victory. Now I know why the Orioles weren't using him anymore.
yuck. I've watched the same pattern for a few weeks now. Average pitchers look like Bob Gibson when they face the Red Sox. Starters (other than Schilling) can't keep their pitch counts within reason and last seven innings, so the bullpen has to carry the day -- and we know that isn't going to happen. It has been ugly with a few bright spots. You can't lose multiple series to the D Rays and expect to be in the playoffs. Say it ain't so, someone convince me this is an illusion.
<< <i>Good thing the Sox loss to the dreadful Royals last night was tempered by Rivera blowing a save in Chicago. >>
Having the displeasure of watching the Red Sox play for the last few weeks, I was hoping the Yankees would win that game that Rivera blew. I figure the only chance for the Red Sox is mutual annhilation in the central division with some help from the East and West to allow them to limp into another wildcard spot.
Come on Barn Dog. Even me as a Yankee fan does not want to see a Sox fan CAVE on August 9th man! We have tooooooooo many games together for that to REALLY be the case.
With that said, it has been very enjoyable watching Paplebon blow 2 saves in a row. 2 losses in a row to the Royals.
I just felt it in my bones even before Varitek went down. PUT A FORK IN YOU GUYS Woooooo Hoooooooo
I watch enough to see a crumbled bullpen and hitters unable to deliver with men on base (save one or two guys) inning after inning. That spells trouble for anyone. Add to that one dependable starter in Schilling (unless a 5+ ERA or 100 pitches in five innings is OK, then add Beckett and Lester to the list) and you aren't seeing a cave in here, it is a logical assessment of their probability of making it to the postseason. I did think that the team to beat was going to be Minnesota, but with Liriano's problems, looks like Detroit has taken that spot. No emotion in the evaluation. I'm a fan of the Red Sox, but I still call them as I see them.
I'm thinking I am correct in my assessment. There's no Kevin Millar to get the team back to playing loose. The fan in me sure hopes I'm wrong, no doubt.
You know I stand by my team, but as Ive said it before the mark of a great team is crushing the weak teams. The FREAKIN ROYALS?? Hey at this point if the Yankees win the division...congrats to them. We dont deserve it. I hope we can turn it around because this 3 game deficit could easly turn into 7 or 8 and then all is lost.
Not good - the basically AAA Royals are picking now to get hot? You see how much the team misses Varitek, especially last night as Lopez made several fielding mistakes that were costly. And, now is not the time for Papelbon to go through a slump - he'll be fine, but there's no time to waste.
LOL - the Royals are hitting like they have pretty much all year. We're just getting more quality starts from the pitching.
I honestly wouldn't call them AAA, maybe a majority of the pitchers, but these younger guys, Dejesus, Costa, Teahan, have bought into our new GM's system for the upcoming years.
Of course, it's probably just a matter of the Red sox playing down to the level of their competition.....but still, good teams shouldn't do that.
<< <i>Life could be worse Red Sox fans. You could be a Blue Jays fan like me >>
LOL I hear ya! The Yankee/ Red Sox thing just gets to me and I freak out a bit. I honestly wouldnt care as much if the JAYS and not the Yanks were in first.....but hey like I said good for them.....may the best team win.
I am officially going on record tonight as a Curt Schilling fan.
During the Yankees rain delay they are replaying the Lou Gehrig Yankeeography and they do a piece on Schilling. He and his wife named their son Gehrig and are two of the foremost suporters and advocates of ALS awareness. To hear the kind words, reverence, and caring he and his wife have for Gehrig, as well as their dedication to Lou's memory and others stricken with the disease commonly named for him is something that struck me. I will forever be a Curt Schilling fan from this day on.
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." -- Yogi Berra
All joking aside. I am a die hard Yanks fan, and you all are Sox faithfulls, but in the end it comes down to people. Learning about Curt and his families efforts tonight came as a shock to me. The shock was that I had no idea previously.
More often than not we read about an athlete giving to a cause due to some personal interest such as a family member who was afflicted with a disease. To know Curt and his family have given so much time, effort, and love to a cause which hasnt directly affected them is amazing to know.
This is one Yankee fan who will forever admire the man.
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." -- Yogi Berra
Wow, what's up with the Red Sox? 3 straight losses to a team that has one of the worst records in baseball and has won 25 fewer games. Break up the Royals!
Serious question..not to get anyone riled up but do Red Sox think it would have been worth it if they would have given a better go for Damon now that the season is 2/3 done? And was Crisp worth it? Im asking for an objective opinion, not an opinion from the heart or anger. Damon G AB R H 2B HR RBI BB SO SB OBP SLG AVG 104 414 79 120 25 15 53 48 57 20 .361 .473 .290 Crisp 71 288 43 79 15 4 21 20 47 16 .324 .382 .274
Do you have higher hopes for Crisp for next season or that he can come back and step it up this year? Would any Bosox fans have cared if they paid the same money for Damon to keep this guy in the clubhouse...more than what he brings in stats? Is there talk in Boston that the Red Sox are coming unglued without Varitek?
personally, I don't miss Damon. I recognize the business part of the game as well as the fun part that I tune in or go to the park for. What he got from NY was too much for a player his age with his injury potential. If I were making the same decision as the Sox, I would have offered Varitek money and that's it. Crisp seems to be having an off year, but I don't know for sure (statistically). How much of that is related to his injury and missing so many games I can't be certain. When I compare apples to apples, I think the comparison should be between Youkilis and Damon -- leadoff hitter to leadoff hitter. Here's Youk's numbers from ESPN:
SPLIT G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB BA OBP SLG Season 109 424 78 125 29 1 11 54 5 .295 .396 .446
Youkilis compares quite favorably to Damon at a fraction of the price. So then I ask is Crisp better than Millar, a lower half of the batting order guy, and the answer is yes. At least that's how I stack it up in my mind. But this team sure does need a Kevin Millar. Not for his glove, speed (ha), bat, or arm, but for his clubhouse presence and leadership.
I do have hopes for Crisp next year, but only if he works with a batting coach and tries to get hits, not just home runs, every time he swings the bat. He could learn a little from Wily Mo, of all people, who has shown some nice progress this year hitting against righties. If Crisp doesn't learn to swing for little hits that his speed can turn into doubles or triples, he makes good trade bait.
<< <i>Wow, what's up with the Red Sox? 3 straight losses to a team that has one of the worst records in baseball and has won 25 fewer games. Break up the Royals!
Notice how everytime that a poster talks about sports (this is a sports talk board isn't it?) this jerk turns it into a personal attack. If that's not a reason to get banned I don't know what is.
I hope the red sox turn things around in a hurry, and knocks those worthless bums from NY out of the playoffs. Oughta give those whiny fans a real reason to complain.
<< <i>Serious question..not to get anyone riled up but do Red Sox think it would have been worth it if they would have given a better go for Damon now that the season is 2/3 done? And was Crisp worth it? Im asking for an objective opinion, not an opinion from the heart or anger. Damon G AB R H 2B HR RBI BB SO SB OBP SLG AVG 104 414 79 120 25 15 53 48 57 20 .361 .473 .290 Crisp 71 288 43 79 15 4 21 20 47 16 .324 .382 .274
Do you have higher hopes for Crisp for next season or that he can come back and step it up this year? Would any Bosox fans have cared if they paid the same money for Damon to keep this guy in the clubhouse...more than what he brings in stats? Is there talk in Boston that the Red Sox are coming unglued without Varitek? >>
As far as the Crisp/Damon thing goes, I honestly thought he would have been a stud this year. He seemed to be coming in to his own last year putting up I believe about 20 homeruns? Not bad for a leadoff (primarily) hitter, He was injured early and never seemed to get into a groove. Obviously I hope he turns it around a bit with the offense as we did lose so far in the Damon deal but overall investment wise I will still take my chances with Crisp.
I think the pitching staff has suffered greatly with the absence of Varitek, him calling games and working well with the pitching staff is greatly missed.
Yeah, I would say he grabbed it. When the guy who was supposed to replace Damon only has 5 dingers I would say he has to give it all the gusto he can. >>
I read ALL off season and during season how so many Yankees are nobody. Robinson Cano, Chein Mein Wang, Scott Proctor, Mussina is over the hill, Bernie is done, the list just goes on and on and on and on. How dare a beloved Red Sox get critisized right? Coco Crisp is a BUST. He will continue to be a BUST. He is average at best. Sometimes makes the nice play and sometimes drives a runner in. He certainly HAS NOT replaced Johnny Damon. You act like your Red Sox are the victims now of unfair critique. Hey, its all in good fun though. It is a shame most of you Sox fans don't give the Yankees their do like Yankee fans do the Sox on these boards when it is warranted. Noooo, with every runner Jorge Posada guns out, with every ground ball Wang forces, with every good outing by Scott Proctor, with every base hit that Cano laces all the while playing a very good second base this year, Yankee fans will continue to hear CRICKETS from you guys. CRICKETS. Oh boy though, the few good outings Lester has had we hear about ...... we even hear about a nice play Crisp makes ONCE IN A WHILE like it off-sets a SEASON of futility.
<< <i>"It's time for reality to set in on the Evil Empire - if it doesn't by the end of the weekend, it will next weekend when the Yanks come to Fenway. >>
well then, THAT is more like it. Alot better then the bull$hit analysis of the NY Yankee players, farm system, and management that you usually come up with.
Dan, I wouldn't say Crisp has been a bust - his numbers might not be there, but the freak injury that caused him to miss 6 weeks early this season didn't help him. He's struggled in the leadoff spot, but Youkilis has done a fine job there, if only Francona would leave him there.
The Damon trade was not about this season, and you can't judge it until you see how he does over the next few seasons for the Yanks. I don't even think the Yanks see him as a 4 year CF, but they are the only team that can pay him $50+ million for a good season or two.
The wheels are about to come off for Wang, also. He's got one of the lowest strikeout ratios in the AL among starters, and while he has had a few good outings, he mostly benefits from the run support he gets. That type of pitcher is exactly the type to fade in September (or maybe next weekend?).
I still don't think the Yanks have the pitching needed to win anything. Detroit does, the White Sox kind of do, and Boston has Schilling, Beckett, and Lester - which is a far cry better than the Yankee staff of scrapheap castoffs and free agent busts.
<< <i>The wheels are about to come off for Wang, also. He's got one of the lowest strikeout ratios in the AL among starters, and while he has had a few good outings, he mostly benefits from the run support he gets. That type of pitcher is exactly the type to fade in September (or maybe next weekend?).
I still don't think the Yanks have the pitching needed to win anything. Detroit does, the White Sox kind of do, and Boston has Schilling, Beckett, and Lester - which is a far cry better than the Yankee staff of scrapheap castoffs and free agent busts.
>>
Wang has had a "few" good outings? The wheels are about to "fall off" ? Hmmmmmm then you go on to list Josh (Gopher Ball) Beckett as a asset over Wang when his ERA DOMINATES over the home run sick Beckett. And Lester? Yeah, he is as over hyped by YOU as any Yankee farm hand that has come up recently. Can't wait to face his average stuff. Free agent busts you say? Ummm Coco Crisp is as much a BUST as ANY Yankee free agent this side of Carl Pavano. Your "far cry" pitching staff has lead the Sox into the Second Place position they are in.
Chein Ming Wang has given up 9 Home runs to Becketts astronomical amount of 31. Nuff said right there brother Chein Mein Wang throws ground ball OUTS. He does not try and strike out everybody in the lineup only to give up moon shot after moon shot ala Beckett.
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The Sox needed to do something and getting Lopez will probably work out better then signing someone like Kelly Stinnett off of the scrap heap.
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ESPN's Duke Castiglione reported Friday that the player to be named is Red Sox outfielder Adam Stern.
However, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays may place a waiver claim on Stern, effectively blocking him from going to Baltimore this season. If a claim is made, the Orioles would get Stern after the season.
Now, why in the world would Tampa Bay care enough to block this "prospect" from going to Baltimore now .... when they will get him anyway next spring? Am I missing something ????
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<< <i>softparade - Apparently the Sox called Julio Lugo's agent to inquire if his client would consider switching to secondbase and if he would sign an extension. The D'Rays were quite upset with this tactic. >>
Ohhhhh, well then I WAS missing something. I had no clue this went down. Any links???? And thanks!
Edited to comment .... how does this hurt the Sox though? Javy is there and what do they care about the prospect that will be held up for BALTIMORE ?????
Even more confusing ...
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-- Yogi Berra
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<< <i>Good thing the Sox loss to the dreadful Royals last night was tempered by Rivera blowing a save in Chicago. >>
Having the displeasure of watching the Red Sox play for the last few weeks, I was hoping the Yankees would win that game that Rivera blew. I figure the only chance for the Red Sox is mutual annhilation in the central division with some help from the East and West to allow them to limp into another wildcard spot.
With that said, it has been very enjoyable watching Paplebon blow 2 saves in a row. 2 losses in a row to the Royals.
I just felt it in my bones even before Varitek went down. PUT A FORK IN YOU GUYS Woooooo Hoooooooo
But PLEASE, don't CAVE MAN
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I honestly wouldn't call them AAA, maybe a majority of the pitchers, but these younger guys, Dejesus, Costa, Teahan, have bought into our new GM's system for the upcoming years.
Of course, it's probably just a matter of the Red sox playing down to the level of their competition.....but still, good teams shouldn't do that.
-dal-
<< <i>Life could be worse Red Sox fans. You could be a Blue Jays fan like me
LOL I hear ya! The Yankee/ Red Sox thing just gets to me and I freak out a bit. I honestly wouldnt care as much if the JAYS and not the Yanks were in first.....but hey like I said good for them.....may the best team win.
During the Yankees rain delay they are replaying the Lou Gehrig Yankeeography and they do a piece on Schilling. He and his wife named their son Gehrig and are two of the foremost suporters and advocates of ALS awareness. To hear the kind words, reverence, and caring he and his wife have for Gehrig, as well as their dedication to Lou's memory and others stricken with the disease commonly named for him is something that struck me. I will forever be a Curt Schilling fan from this day on.
-- Yogi Berra
Dal
Bri2327 - When Schilling pitched in the 2004 post-season with the bad ankle he had ALS on his shoes to raise awareness, I believe.
Curt's Pitch
He posts on a popular Red Sox message board and uses the handle G38, G for Gehrig.
All joking aside. I am a die hard Yanks fan, and you all are Sox faithfulls, but in the end it comes down to people. Learning about Curt and his families efforts tonight came as a shock to me. The shock was that I had no idea previously.
More often than not we read about an athlete giving to a cause due to some personal interest such as a family member who was afflicted with a disease. To know Curt and his family have given so much time, effort, and love to a cause which hasnt directly affected them is amazing to know.
This is one Yankee fan who will forever admire the man.
-- Yogi Berra
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It looks like the Sox are missing the Idiot.
Damon
G AB R H 2B HR RBI BB SO SB OBP SLG AVG
104 414 79 120 25 15 53 48 57 20 .361 .473 .290
Crisp
71 288 43 79 15 4 21 20 47 16 .324 .382 .274
Do you have higher hopes for Crisp for next season or that he can come back and step it up this year?
Would any Bosox fans have cared if they paid the same money for Damon to keep this guy in the clubhouse...more than what he brings in stats?
Is there talk in Boston that the Red Sox are coming unglued without Varitek?
SPLIT G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB BA OBP SLG
Season 109 424 78 125 29 1 11 54 5 .295 .396 .446
Youkilis compares quite favorably to Damon at a fraction of the price. So then I ask is Crisp better than Millar, a lower half of the batting order guy, and the answer is yes. At least that's how I stack it up in my mind. But this team sure does need a Kevin Millar. Not for his glove, speed (ha), bat, or arm, but for his clubhouse presence and leadership.
I do have hopes for Crisp next year, but only if he works with a batting coach and tries to get hits, not just home runs, every time he swings the bat. He could learn a little from Wily Mo, of all people, who has shown some nice progress this year hitting against righties. If Crisp doesn't learn to swing for little hits that his speed can turn into doubles or triples, he makes good trade bait.
<< <i>Wow, what's up with the Red Sox? 3 straight losses to a team that has one of the worst records in baseball and has won 25 fewer games. Break up the Royals!
It looks like the Sox are missing the Idiot. >>
They aren't missing you spammy.
I hope the red sox turn things around in a hurry, and knocks those worthless bums from NY out of the playoffs. Oughta give those whiny fans a real reason to complain.
<< <i>Serious question..not to get anyone riled up but do Red Sox think it would have been worth it if they would have given a better go for Damon now that the season is 2/3 done? And was Crisp worth it? Im asking for an objective opinion, not an opinion from the heart or anger.
Damon
G AB R H 2B HR RBI BB SO SB OBP SLG AVG
104 414 79 120 25 15 53 48 57 20 .361 .473 .290
Crisp
71 288 43 79 15 4 21 20 47 16 .324 .382 .274
Do you have higher hopes for Crisp for next season or that he can come back and step it up this year?
Would any Bosox fans have cared if they paid the same money for Damon to keep this guy in the clubhouse...more than what he brings in stats?
Is there talk in Boston that the Red Sox are coming unglued without Varitek? >>
As far as the Crisp/Damon thing goes, I honestly thought he would have been a stud this year. He seemed to be coming in to his own last year putting up I believe about 20 homeruns? Not bad for a leadoff (primarily) hitter, He was injured early and never seemed to get into a groove. Obviously I hope he turns it around a bit with the offense as we did lose so far in the Damon deal but overall investment wise I will still take my chances with Crisp.
I think the pitching staff has suffered greatly with the absence of Varitek, him calling games and working well with the pitching staff is greatly missed.
<< <i>Good to see spammy up to his usual tricks.
. >>
Yeah, he aint "Fudin" nobody
Yeah, I would say he grabbed it. When the guy who was supposed to replace Damon only has 5 dingers I would say he has to give it all the gusto he can.
<< <i><<Crisp grabbing homerun # 5>>
Yeah, I would say he grabbed it. When the guy who was supposed to replace Damon only has 5 dingers I would say he has to give it all the gusto he can.
Another guy who ain't Fudin nobody.
I don't get it.
But, I will say this - this thread is like the movie Sybil.
I read ALL off season and during season how so many Yankees are nobody. Robinson Cano, Chein Mein Wang, Scott Proctor, Mussina is over the hill, Bernie is done, the list just goes on and on and on and on. How dare a beloved Red Sox get critisized right? Coco Crisp is a BUST. He will continue to be a BUST. He is average at best. Sometimes makes the nice play and sometimes drives a runner in. He certainly HAS NOT replaced Johnny Damon. You act like your Red Sox are the victims now of unfair critique. Hey, its all in good fun though. It is a shame most of you Sox fans don't give the Yankees their do like Yankee fans do the Sox on these boards when it is warranted. Noooo, with every runner Jorge Posada guns out, with every ground ball Wang forces, with every good outing by Scott Proctor, with every base hit that Cano laces all the while playing a very good second base this year, Yankee fans will continue to hear CRICKETS from you guys. CRICKETS. Oh boy though, the few good outings Lester has had we hear about ...... we even hear about a nice play Crisp makes ONCE IN A WHILE like it off-sets a SEASON of futility.
See ya next weekend fellas
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<< <i>"It's time for reality to set in on the Evil Empire - if it doesn't by the end of the weekend, it will next weekend when the Yanks come to Fenway. >>
well then, THAT is more like it. Alot better then the bull$hit analysis of the NY Yankee players, farm system, and management that you usually come up with.
LETS GET IT ON
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Foodin Fight....er I meant Food Fight!
The Damon trade was not about this season, and you can't judge it until you see how he does over the next few seasons for the Yanks. I don't even think the Yanks see him as a 4 year CF, but they are the only team that can pay him $50+ million for a good season or two.
The wheels are about to come off for Wang, also. He's got one of the lowest strikeout ratios in the AL among starters, and while he has had a few good outings, he mostly benefits from the run support he gets. That type of pitcher is exactly the type to fade in September (or maybe next weekend?).
I still don't think the Yanks have the pitching needed to win anything. Detroit does, the White Sox kind of do, and Boston has Schilling, Beckett, and Lester - which is a far cry better than the Yankee staff of scrapheap castoffs and free agent busts.
Hmmm, where's that fork again?
<< <i>The wheels are about to come off for Wang, also. He's got one of the lowest strikeout ratios in the AL among starters, and while he has had a few good outings, he mostly benefits from the run support he gets. That type of pitcher is exactly the type to fade in September (or maybe next weekend?).
I still don't think the Yanks have the pitching needed to win anything. Detroit does, the White Sox kind of do, and Boston has Schilling, Beckett, and Lester - which is a far cry better than the Yankee staff of scrapheap castoffs and free agent busts.
>>
Wang has had a "few" good outings?
Chein Ming Wang has given up 9 Home runs to Becketts astronomical amount of 31. Nuff said right there brother
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