Hello all, Well, I guess I couldn't have asked for any more than I got. Not only did Beckett put my Steve Owen card in their magazine, but, this is even better. If you click on Huggins & Scott auction website, the card is one of the featured items that appears on the Homepage. I'll tell you, the last few months have really been something for me. Rocke
WANTED:Football Hall of Fame Autograph's;Hugh Ray,Tim Mara,Charles Bidwell,Walt Kiesling,Bill Hewitt,Len Ford,Fritz Pollard,Curly Lambeau,Steve Owen & Joe Carr. FOR SALE : 100's of auto'd HoF 8x10's & dozen's of auto'd HoF cards.
I am sure there are a few here bidding or about to bid on this item. The auction states it is an autograph of Princeton Football Player William Church. Well, I have my doubts. Look at these to pictures. The first is an auction stating it is HIS signature. The second is an envelope that was written TO William Church. I believe they were written by the same person. Note the gap between the R and CH in his last name. Note the 'Raised' C in his Last name. If I am wrong with this, and i guess I could be....there were 2 different guys in 1895 that wrote almost identical
The owner "Prewarsports" is either pulling a fast one (he stated he sold a few of his 'Autographs' before) or is ....well...you decide. Albersheim's has an autograph of William Church that I believe he got from Prewarsports. He is selling it for a few thousand??? I'd stay away if I were you.
What do you think? Am I missing something here???
Supposedly an autograph of William Church
Addressed TO Church;
Currency Wants: Any note with serial number 00000731
Prewarsports purchased Church's college scrapbook a couple years ago from an antique dealer. Prior to the sale of that scrapbook, I acquired the first two pieces posted from that antique dealer. They are not the greatest quality, but hey...they are over 110 years old!
I don't think prewarsports is trying to deceive anyone, but I do agree that the current signature listed on ebay is not consistent with the ones I have posted here. However I can confirm that the source of prewarsports signatures are from Church's personal scrapbook.
Here is a signed banquet program of the 1896 Princeton football team. Bob Church's signature is the third one down.
Next is another signed banquet program from the 1896 Princeton football team. Church's typical signature is on the bottom.
Last is a pencil signature cropped from an exam paper of Church's. I acquired this piece from Prewarsports after he acquired the scrapbook.
George Allen- $250 Bert Bell-$200 Jack Christiansen-$100 Al Davis-$200 Turk Edwards-$500 Jim Finks-$400 Benny Friedman-$400 Bill George-$150 Arnie Herber-$650 Cal Hubbard-$100 Henry Jordan-$400 Bobby Layne-$125 Tuffy Leemans-$250 Vince Lombardi-$350 Link Lyman-$400 Johnny Blood McNally-$500 Wayne Millner-$200 Ernie Nevers- $300 Greasy Neale-$600 Ray Nitschke-$125 Walter Payton-$300 Dan Reeves-$700 Joe Stydahar-$200 Derrick Thomas-$125 George Trafton-$200 Emlen Tunnell-$250 Norm Van Brocklin-$200 Bob Waterfield-$150
These are the guys I haven't been able to find signed cards for, but bought signatures (3X5's, Cuts, photos, ect...)
Guy Chamberlin-$600 Jimmy Conzelman-$200 Paddy Driscoll-$250 Len Ford-$500 Joe Guyon-$250 Bill Hewitt-$1,000 George Preston Marshall-$400 Steve Owen-$600 Fritz Pollard-$1,000 Jim Thorpe-$950
I'm still missing signatures of Chales Bidwell, Joe Carr, Fats Henry, Walt Kiesling, Curly Lambeau, Tim Mara, and Hugh Ray. Given I had the money, I could probably knock off Henry and Lambeau for around 2K. The others are different story. Even if I had the money, I'm not sure I could track the others down.
I hope this helps John. Are you going to start picking up some of these guys even if it's not a signed rookie card?
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This is a bummer. I've been waiting and waiting for a checklist for 2009 Donruss Limited Cuts set in hopes that Panini would include some tough signatures like they did this year with Donruss Classics. Well, here is the checklist and it's disappointing to say the least. I was expecting more for a $100 per pack product.
Limited Cuts
1 Alex Wojciechowicz C- Detroit Lions 7 2 Bert Bell O- Philadelphia Eagles 20 3 Clyde "Bulldog" Turner LB- Chicago Bears 6 4 Dante Lavelli TE- Cleveland Browns 22 5 Doak Walker RB- Detroit Lions 3 6 Elroy “Crazylegs” Hirsch WR- Los Angeles Rams 15 7 Frank Gatski C- Cleveland Browns 25 8 Frank Kinard - Brooklyn Dodgers 10 9 George Connor LB- Chicago Bears 8 10 George McAfee RB- Chicago Bears 26 11 Jay Berwanger RB- University of Chicago 16 12 Jim Parker DT- Baltimore Colts 13 13 John Henry Johnson FB- Pittsburgh Steelers 11 14 Johnny Unitas- Baltimore Colts 10 15 Lamar Hunt O- Kansas City Chiefs 14 16 Morris “Red” Badgro DE- New York Giants 25 17 Ollie Matson- Los Angeles Rams 16 18 Otto Graham QB- Cleveland Browns 7 19 Paul Brown CH- Cleveland Brown 10 20 Roosevelt Brown OT- New York Giants 25 21 Sammy Baugh QB- Washington Redskins 25 22 Sid Gillman CH- Los Angeles Rams 10 23 Tony Canadeo RB- Green Bay Packers 25 24 Walter Payton RB- Chicago Bears 10 25 Weeb EwbankCH- New York Jets 25
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<< <i>This is a bummer. I've been waiting and waiting for a checklist for 2009 Donruss Limited Cuts set in hopes that Panini would include some tough signatures like they did this year with Donruss Classics. Well, here is the checklist and it's disappointing to say the least. I was expecting more for a $100 per pack product.
Limited Cuts
1 Alex Wojciechowicz C- Detroit Lions 7 2 Bert Bell O- Philadelphia Eagles 20 3 Clyde "Bulldog" Turner LB- Chicago Bears 6 4 Dante Lavelli TE- Cleveland Browns 22 5 Doak Walker RB- Detroit Lions 3 6 Elroy “Crazylegs” Hirsch WR- Los Angeles Rams 15 7 Frank Gatski C- Cleveland Browns 25 8 Frank Kinard - Brooklyn Dodgers 10 9 George Connor LB- Chicago Bears 8 10 George McAfee RB- Chicago Bears 26 11 Jay Berwanger RB- University of Chicago 16 12 Jim Parker DT- Baltimore Colts 13 13 John Henry Johnson FB- Pittsburgh Steelers 11 14 Johnny Unitas- Baltimore Colts 10 15 Lamar Hunt O- Kansas City Chiefs 14 16 Morris “Red” Badgro DE- New York Giants 25 17 Ollie Matson- Los Angeles Rams 16 18 Otto Graham QB- Cleveland Browns 7 19 Paul Brown CH- Cleveland Brown 10 20 Roosevelt Brown OT- New York Giants 25 21 Sammy Baugh QB- Washington Redskins 25 22 Sid Gillman CH- Los Angeles Rams 10 23 Tony Canadeo RB- Green Bay Packers 25 24 Walter Payton RB- Chicago Bears 10 25 Weeb EwbankCH- New York Jets 25 >>
Reese,
That is a pretty lame lineup. Most of those autographs can be had on a Swell or Fleer IR card for under 50. Too bad there weren't any cuts of the guys that we need.
Rgs,
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
When does Playoff National Treasures come out? I think that may be our next shot at some decent cuts.
Reese >>
Reese,
All I've seen are sneak peaks on the Beckett boards. The cut auto shown was of Doak Walker which isn't encouraging. We'll see...but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Rgs,
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
Kirk Welch strikes again:}. He told me that he sells piles of those guys autographs to the card companies. He mentioned it was in the thousands at the National. I pulled a cut from Donruss Classics this year and got Hank Stram. Not a bad autograph to have, but as you say could have probably been purchased for under $50 easy.
Just posted my wantlist on the Buy/Trade/Sell board. I figured I would post a link here since this group is tapped in to the best sources for football autographs. Thanks in advance.
Kirk Welch strikes again:}. He told me that he sells piles of those guys autographs to the card companies. He mentioned it was in the thousands at the National. I pulled a cut from Donruss Classics this year and got Hank Stram. Not a bad autograph to have, but as you say could have probably been purchased for under $50 easy.
Ken >>
This thread SHOULD NOT be on page 2! I like cut auto'd cards when the cut is taken from a scrap of paper or index card...where it looks good when mounted on the "new" card. I really dislike when existing cards or pictures are hacked up and slapped on a "new" card which sells for multiples of what the "old" item would have...
Rgs,
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
FYI, I just bought a 1300+ autographed football card lot. I'm going to keep some of the card and sell the rest. Let me know if there were any auto'd cards that you are interested in. See the link below.
<< <i>WOW! That's some haul. Were any of the cards pulled from packs? They look like they were mostly TTM. Any background story to this collection? >>
It look like ~10% were pulled from packs (e.g. Signature Rookies), however the rest were TTM. I'm hoping to break even and still be able to keep some of the cards for my sets (e.g. 1976 Topps). I can't wait to get it!
Rgs,
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
I found an old football book of mine that has some really great pictures of some well known and obscure players. I thought I would share some of them. If you want to see more let me know and I can post them. I will show 2 pages to start. The first one has Lloyd Madden, a guy I had the pleasure to interview this past summer. He is #29 on the oldest living pro football player list as I write this. He recently turned 91 and seems to be doing great.
Got to love the picture of Charley Malone and Bob Masterson. Imagine wearing those helmets?
The second picture has guys like Duke Slater and Vic Sears. Red Seick looks like one tough guy!
Currency Wants: Any note with serial number 00000731
Thanks for sharing Jim. There are many guys left alive from that page...maybe 6 or 7. Out of curiosity, and assuming that you're written to Lloyd Madden TTM, what did you send for him to sign? I've been having a tough time finding anything relevant for him to sign...
Rgs,
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
It is hard sometimes to locate items for these older guys to sign. Make some CIC's or if you can find a photo send that. Another thing is to get a copy of the front of a program from the year the player played and see if you can print it out.
Currency Wants: Any note with serial number 00000731
I've been going through my collection and selling (prefer trading) off my doubles. Any interest in this autograph of Pudge Heffelfinger? I'll take $700 OBO.
Hey Greg, Don't know if you noticed or not, but a guy on Ebay with the name Gretch2662 has quite a few Goal Line Art cards for sale at what I think are fairly reasonable prices. By my count, he has FIVE of the ones that you need. Rocke
WANTED:Football Hall of Fame Autograph's;Hugh Ray,Tim Mara,Charles Bidwell,Walt Kiesling,Bill Hewitt,Len Ford,Fritz Pollard,Curly Lambeau,Steve Owen & Joe Carr. FOR SALE : 100's of auto'd HoF 8x10's & dozen's of auto'd HoF cards.
If anyone has or knows someone who has an Arnie Herber, Russ Letlow, George Christensen, or Guy Chamberlin autograph to sell for a decent price.....please drop me a PM or e-mail. Thanks in advance!
I just broke a nearly 1200 autographed card lot which consists of certified and TTM obtained autographs (mainly post 1970). Please e-mail me at montooth13@yahoo.com and I'll e-mail you back with the excel file attached. I will sell the cards on a first come, first serve basis.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Rgs,
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
<< <i>Hey Greg, Don't know if you noticed or not, but a guy on Ebay with the name Gretch2662 has quite a few Goal Line Art cards for sale at what I think are fairly reasonable prices. By my count, he has FIVE of the ones that you need. Rocke >>
Rocke,
Thanks for letting me know. I would love to finish my GLA set, however I'm knee deep working on other vintage sets. I'm picked up some great cards lately - I'll post pictures soon (including a bunch that I bought over the weekend at the Sun Time show).
Rgs,
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
It was great to catch up w/ you at the Sun Times show...and I hope that I didn't drool on your Lambeau or Driscoll cards... Thanks for letting me see them in person...great pickups!
Rgs,
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
<< <i>WOW! That's some haul. Were any of the cards pulled from packs? They look like they were mostly TTM. Any background story to this collection? >>
Frank,
I bought the collection from a dealer in upstate NY who bought the collection from a long time collector. Included in the lot were several of the letters that the collector sent with his requests...so it definately seems legit. It is a very nice lot.
What's funny is that approximately 20 signed 1957 Topps cards were included in the lot including 2 that I need. The only problem - the dipsh*t cut the 1957 Topps cards IN HALF and mailed out the half with the players picture to get signed. I could have cried when I saw the cards....
Rgs,
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
Look at this butch job. The 75 Fleer IR signed by Jim Parker sells for around $8 to $10. UD buys the card, absolutely destroys it, pastes the carcass onto a newly created card, sells the pack for god knows how much and the lucky collector tries to sell the butch job for $200. Unreal! I also saw a YA Tittle cut auto that was carved from a Goal Line Art card. Another travesty!
I have the following signed football cards that I am looking to sell. Otherwise, they will be placed on e-bay next week.
1971 Jim Tyrer (Chiefs) - signed in blue ballpoint (card #206) - Died 1981 - looking for $60 1971 Hewritt Dixon (Raiders) - signed in red ballpoint (card #95) - Died 1992 - looking for $80 1984 Walter Payton (Bears) - Topps card #229 - Instant Replay - Died 1999 - faded black marker* 1988 Walter Payton (Bears) - Topps card #5 - Record Breaker - Died 1999 - blue Sharpie * *the Payton cards are being sold together - looking for $75 for the pair
Scans are available...just give me an e-mail address to send them to.
Agree, that is one ugly card. I love the design around the cut especially:}. I refuse to buy manufacture certified cuts for that very reason, they are typically overpriced by several multiples because of the perceived scarcity and I would rather have the original item as it presents better. I do understand for you registry guys though why you chase them!
I compared the autograph to other "Lennie Ford" examples and it definitely did not match up perfectly. It was close, but the "L" was different and the slant on the "F" was different. I decided to take a chance though based on the price, my 85% confidence in the sig, and the JSA authentication. I will probably cut and submit to PSA/DNA to get it encapsulated.
Hey Ken, Nice pick-up. The first time they listed that autograph about 6-8 months ago, they had it listed for something like $ 1,000.00 or make an offer. I offered $ 500.00 , they responded and said that they would not accept anything less than $ 750.00 SHREWD move on their part. I'll take it off your hands for $ 500.00 any day of the week. Was that a BIN? Unbelievable !!! Rocke
WANTED:Football Hall of Fame Autograph's;Hugh Ray,Tim Mara,Charles Bidwell,Walt Kiesling,Bill Hewitt,Len Ford,Fritz Pollard,Curly Lambeau,Steve Owen & Joe Carr. FOR SALE : 100's of auto'd HoF 8x10's & dozen's of auto'd HoF cards.
Yes, it was a Thanksgiving special I guess. They sent me an e-mail saying it ships Monday, so we will see. I used my credit card just to be safe. I am guessing you felt it was solid if you offered $500:}. Thanks for the feedback.
Nice pick up on the Len Ford. You experience with the seller is similar to one I had with a gentlemen who has a Pete Henry check for sale. A few months back I asked the Board their opinion on a price and everyone seemed to agree that $900-$1000 was a fair market price. In April the seller had the check for a hair under $1,000 and now has the check for almost $1,600. I offered him his April price and he turned it down saying "he was comfortable with the price he is asking." My question is, what is the current market for vintage Football Hall of Famers? I think it is rather soft, my point is based on some of the purchases I've been able to make in the past 6 months including recently picking up a Bill Hewitt and Bert Bell signed check with JSA authentication for $825 on e-bay. Thoughts? Thanks, Tim.
Well, considering that I picked up a Henry Jordan autographed program for $300 recently, Joe Guyon signed 1932 sheet for $160, and a few other "deals" in my opinion....I would have to believe that either the market is a little softer right now due to the economy or more material is being unearthed and made available.
As some of you know, I recently broke a 1200 card collection and am selling them individually. Included are quite a few HOFers..but nothing too expensive. Please PM or e-mail me at montooth13 at yahoo.com and I'll forward the excel file with each card listed.
Rgs,
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
Here are the results of my recent submission. Most of these are signed RCs.
29 1 16152974 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1948 BOWMAN 36 BULLDOG TURNER PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 30 1 16152975 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1948 BOWMAN 63 PETE PIHOS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 31 1 16152976 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1948 BOWMAN 61 ALEX WOJCIECHOWICZ PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 32 1 16152977 POOR 1 1948 BOWMAN 7 STEVE VAN BUREN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 33 1 16152978 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1948 BOWMAN 22 SAM BAUGH PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 34 1 16152979 VERY GOOD 3 1948 LEAF 36 BILL DUDLEY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 35 1 16152980 VERY GOOD 3 1950 BOWMAN 35 JOE PERRY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 36 1 16152981 EXCELLENT 5 1950 BOWMAN 6 LOU GROZA PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 37 1 16152982 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1950 BOWMAN 43 MARION MOTLEY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 38 1 16152983 EXCELLENT 5 1950 BOWMAN 51 TOM FEARS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 39 1 16152984 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1950 BOWMAN 5 Y.A. TITTLE PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 40 1 16152985 GOOD 2 1950 BOWMAN 9 TONY CANADEO PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 41 1 16152986 EXCELLENT 5 1950 BOWMAN 78 DANTE LAVELLI PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 42 1 16152987 EXCELLENT 5 1951 BOWMAN 21 ARNIE WEINMEISTER PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 43 1 16152988 GOOD 2 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 127 OLLIE MATSON PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 44 1 16152989 EXCELLENT 5 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 85 ANDY ROBUSTELLI PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 45 1 16152990 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 140 YALE LARY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 46 1 16152991 EXCELLENT 5 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 29 HUGH McELHENNY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 47 1 16152992 VERY GOOD 3 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 23 GINO MARCHETTI PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 48 1 16152993 GOOD 2 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 16 FRANK GIFFORD PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 49 1 16152994 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 46 ART DONOVAN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 50 1 16152995 EXCELLENT 5 1955 TOPPS ALL-AMER. 66 BRUISER KINARD PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 51 1 16152996 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1955 BOWMAN 101 BOB ST. CLAIR PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 52 1 16152997 EXCELLENT+ 5.5 1955 BOWMAN 42 JOHN H. JOHNSON PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 53 1 16152998 VERY GOOD 3 1956 TOPPS 71 STAN JONES PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 54 1 16152999 EXCELLENT-MINT+ 6.5 1958 TOPPS 90 SONNY JURGENSEN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 55 1 16153000 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1958 TOPPS 62 JIM BROWN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 56 1 16153001 EXCELLENT 5 1959 TOPPS 51 SAM HUFF PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 57 1 16153002 EXCELLENT 5 1959 TOPPS 140 BOBBY MITCHELL PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 58 1 16153003 EXCELLENT 5 1961 TOPPS 182 JIM OTTO PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 59 1 16153004 N0: AUTHENTIC 1967 PHILADELPHIA 96 LOS ANGELES RAMS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 60 1 16153005 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1964 PHILADELPHIA 72 WILLIE DAVIS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 61 1 16153006 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1970 TOPPS 151 TOM MACK PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 62 1 16153007 EXCELLENT 5 1972 TOPPS 104 RON YARY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 63 1 16153008 NEAR MINT 7 1973 TOPPS 341 JIM LANGER PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 64 1 16153009 MINT 9 1982 TOPPS 483 FRED DEAN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 65 1 16153010 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 TOPPS 129 DWIGHT STEPHENSON PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 66 1 16153011 EXCELLENT 5 1987 TOPPS 207 GARY ZIMMERMAN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 67 1 16153012 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1992 PRO LINE PROFILES AUTOGRAPHS 3 ART SHELL PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 68 1 16153013 NEAR MINT 7 1992 PRO LINE PROFILES AUTOGRAPHS 3 JOE GIBBS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 69 1 16153014 MINT 9 1992 TOPPS 338 RANDALL McDANIEL PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 70 1 16153015 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1994 PROLINE LIVE AUTOGRAPH PSA/DNA CERTIFIED JACKIE SLATER PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 71 1 16153016 MINT 9 1994 TOPPS ARCHIVES 1956 REPRINT 8 LOU CREEKMUR '56 REPRINT-PSA/DNA CERT. Card US 72 1 16153017 NEAR MINT 7 1989 SWELL GREATS 89 JOE SCHMIDT PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 73 1 16153018 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 SWELL GREATS 75 GEORGE McAFEE PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 74 1 16153019 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 UPPER DECK LEGENDS AL-82 BOBBY BELL PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 75 1 16153020 MINT 9 1997 UPPER DECK LEGENDS 48 JOHN MACKEY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US 76 1 16153021 NEAR MINT 7 2000 TOPPS HALL OF FAME CLASS HOF4 DAN ROONEY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
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Well, I guess I couldn't have asked for any more than I got. Not only did Beckett put my Steve Owen card in their magazine, but, this is even better. If you click on Huggins & Scott auction website, the card is one of the featured items that appears on the Homepage. I'll tell you, the last few months have really been something for me.
Rocke
The owner "Prewarsports" is either pulling a fast one (he stated he sold a few of his 'Autographs' before) or is ....well...you decide. Albersheim's has an autograph of William Church that I believe he got from Prewarsports. He is selling it for a few thousand??? I'd stay away if I were you.
What do you think? Am I missing something here???
Supposedly an autograph of William Church
Addressed TO Church;
Currency Wants: Any note with serial number 00000731
Prewarsports purchased Church's college scrapbook a couple years ago from an antique dealer. Prior to the sale of that scrapbook, I acquired the first two pieces posted from that antique dealer. They are not the greatest quality, but hey...they are over 110 years old!
I don't think prewarsports is trying to deceive anyone, but I do agree that the current signature listed on ebay is not consistent with the ones I have posted here. However I can confirm that the source of prewarsports signatures are from Church's personal scrapbook.
Here is a signed banquet program of the 1896 Princeton football team. Bob Church's signature is the third one down.
Next is another signed banquet program from the 1896 Princeton football team. Church's typical signature is on the bottom.
Last is a pencil signature cropped from an exam paper of Church's. I acquired this piece from Prewarsports after he acquired the scrapbook.
Hope this helps!
Mark
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HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
These are all signed trading cards.
George Allen- $250
Bert Bell-$200
Jack Christiansen-$100
Al Davis-$200
Turk Edwards-$500
Jim Finks-$400
Benny Friedman-$400
Bill George-$150
Arnie Herber-$650
Cal Hubbard-$100
Henry Jordan-$400
Bobby Layne-$125
Tuffy Leemans-$250
Vince Lombardi-$350
Link Lyman-$400
Johnny Blood McNally-$500
Wayne Millner-$200
Ernie Nevers- $300
Greasy Neale-$600
Ray Nitschke-$125
Walter Payton-$300
Dan Reeves-$700
Joe Stydahar-$200
Derrick Thomas-$125
George Trafton-$200
Emlen Tunnell-$250
Norm Van Brocklin-$200
Bob Waterfield-$150
These are the guys I haven't been able to find signed cards for, but bought signatures (3X5's, Cuts, photos, ect...)
Guy Chamberlin-$600
Jimmy Conzelman-$200
Paddy Driscoll-$250
Len Ford-$500
Joe Guyon-$250
Bill Hewitt-$1,000
George Preston Marshall-$400
Steve Owen-$600
Fritz Pollard-$1,000
Jim Thorpe-$950
I'm still missing signatures of Chales Bidwell, Joe Carr, Fats Henry, Walt Kiesling, Curly Lambeau, Tim Mara, and Hugh Ray. Given I had the money, I could probably knock off Henry and Lambeau for around 2K. The others are different story. Even if I had the money, I'm not sure I could track the others down.
I hope this helps John. Are you going to start picking up some of these guys even if it's not a signed rookie card?
HOF RC Auto Set
1955 Topps Football AA
1950 Bowman Football
1951 Bowman Football
1952 Bowman Football
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Limited Cuts
1 Alex Wojciechowicz C- Detroit Lions 7
2 Bert Bell O- Philadelphia Eagles 20
3 Clyde "Bulldog" Turner LB- Chicago Bears 6
4 Dante Lavelli TE- Cleveland Browns 22
5 Doak Walker RB- Detroit Lions 3
6 Elroy “Crazylegs” Hirsch WR- Los Angeles Rams 15
7 Frank Gatski C- Cleveland Browns 25
8 Frank Kinard - Brooklyn Dodgers 10
9 George Connor LB- Chicago Bears 8
10 George McAfee RB- Chicago Bears 26
11 Jay Berwanger RB- University of Chicago 16
12 Jim Parker DT- Baltimore Colts 13
13 John Henry Johnson FB- Pittsburgh Steelers 11
14 Johnny Unitas- Baltimore Colts 10
15 Lamar Hunt O- Kansas City Chiefs 14
16 Morris “Red” Badgro DE- New York Giants 25
17 Ollie Matson- Los Angeles Rams 16
18 Otto Graham QB- Cleveland Browns 7
19 Paul Brown CH- Cleveland Brown 10
20 Roosevelt Brown OT- New York Giants 25
21 Sammy Baugh QB- Washington Redskins 25
22 Sid Gillman CH- Los Angeles Rams 10
23 Tony Canadeo RB- Green Bay Packers 25
24 Walter Payton RB- Chicago Bears 10
25 Weeb EwbankCH- New York Jets 25
HOF RC Auto Set
1955 Topps Football AA
1950 Bowman Football
1951 Bowman Football
1952 Bowman Football
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<< <i>This is a bummer. I've been waiting and waiting for a checklist for 2009 Donruss Limited Cuts set in hopes that Panini would include some tough signatures like they did this year with Donruss Classics. Well, here is the checklist and it's disappointing to say the least. I was expecting more for a $100 per pack product.
Limited Cuts
1 Alex Wojciechowicz C- Detroit Lions 7
2 Bert Bell O- Philadelphia Eagles 20
3 Clyde "Bulldog" Turner LB- Chicago Bears 6
4 Dante Lavelli TE- Cleveland Browns 22
5 Doak Walker RB- Detroit Lions 3
6 Elroy “Crazylegs” Hirsch WR- Los Angeles Rams 15
7 Frank Gatski C- Cleveland Browns 25
8 Frank Kinard - Brooklyn Dodgers 10
9 George Connor LB- Chicago Bears 8
10 George McAfee RB- Chicago Bears 26
11 Jay Berwanger RB- University of Chicago 16
12 Jim Parker DT- Baltimore Colts 13
13 John Henry Johnson FB- Pittsburgh Steelers 11
14 Johnny Unitas- Baltimore Colts 10
15 Lamar Hunt O- Kansas City Chiefs 14
16 Morris “Red” Badgro DE- New York Giants 25
17 Ollie Matson- Los Angeles Rams 16
18 Otto Graham QB- Cleveland Browns 7
19 Paul Brown CH- Cleveland Brown 10
20 Roosevelt Brown OT- New York Giants 25
21 Sammy Baugh QB- Washington Redskins 25
22 Sid Gillman CH- Los Angeles Rams 10
23 Tony Canadeo RB- Green Bay Packers 25
24 Walter Payton RB- Chicago Bears 10
25 Weeb EwbankCH- New York Jets 25 >>
Reese,
That is a pretty lame lineup. Most of those autographs can be had on a Swell or Fleer IR card for under 50. Too bad there weren't any cuts of the guys that we need.
Rgs,
Greg M.
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When does Playoff National Treasures come out? I think that may be our next shot at some decent cuts.
Reese
HOF RC Auto Set
1955 Topps Football AA
1950 Bowman Football
1951 Bowman Football
1952 Bowman Football
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<< <i>Greg,
When does Playoff National Treasures come out? I think that may be our next shot at some decent cuts.
Reese >>
Reese,
All I've seen are sneak peaks on the Beckett boards. The cut auto shown was of Doak Walker which isn't encouraging. We'll see...but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Rgs,
Greg M.
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Kirk Welch strikes again:}. He told me that he sells piles of those guys autographs to the card companies. He mentioned it was in the thousands at the National. I pulled a cut from Donruss Classics this year and got Hank Stram. Not a bad autograph to have, but as you say could have probably been purchased for under $50 easy.
Ken
Just posted my wantlist on the Buy/Trade/Sell board. I figured I would post a link here since this group is tapped in to the best sources for football autographs. Thanks in advance.
Ken
Ken's Autograph Wantlist
<< <i>Hey,
Kirk Welch strikes again:}. He told me that he sells piles of those guys autographs to the card companies. He mentioned it was in the thousands at the National. I pulled a cut from Donruss Classics this year and got Hank Stram. Not a bad autograph to have, but as you say could have probably been purchased for under $50 easy.
Ken >>
This thread SHOULD NOT be on page 2! I like cut auto'd cards when the cut is taken from a scrap of paper or index card...where it looks good when mounted on the "new" card. I really dislike when existing cards or pictures are hacked up and slapped on a "new" card which sells for multiples of what the "old" item would have...
Rgs,
Greg M.
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Rgs,
Greg M.
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Collecting:
Brett Favre Master Set
Favre Ticket Stubs
Favre TD Reciever Autos
Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
Football HOF Rc's
<< <i>WOW! That's some haul. Were any of the cards pulled from packs? They look like they were mostly TTM. Any background story to this collection? >>
It look like ~10% were pulled from packs (e.g. Signature Rookies), however the rest were TTM. I'm hoping to break even and still be able to keep some of the cards for my sets (e.g. 1976 Topps). I can't wait to get it!
Rgs,
Greg M.
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Got to love the picture of Charley Malone and Bob Masterson. Imagine wearing those helmets?
The second picture has guys like Duke Slater and Vic Sears. Red Seick looks like one tough guy!
Currency Wants: Any note with serial number 00000731
Rgs,
Greg M.
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Currency Wants: Any note with serial number 00000731
I've been going through my collection and selling (prefer trading) off my doubles. Any interest in this autograph of Pudge Heffelfinger? I'll take $700 OBO.
Thanks
Mark
vintageuofm@yahoo.com
Is the Pudge fingerprint and DNA extra?:}.
Ken
Currency Wants: Any note with serial number 00000731
<< <i>If anyone is interested in this photo signed by Al Lassman and Alton Marsters send me a PM. >>
Your PMs aren't on, I might be interested in the photo.
Don't know if you noticed or not, but a guy on Ebay with the name Gretch2662 has quite a few Goal Line Art cards for sale at what I think are fairly reasonable prices. By my count, he has FIVE of the ones that you need.
Rocke
If anyone has or knows someone who has an Arnie Herber, Russ Letlow, George Christensen, or Guy Chamberlin autograph to sell for a decent price.....please drop me a PM or e-mail. Thanks in advance!
Ken
E-mail: ken_ams@hotmail.com
I just broke a nearly 1200 autographed card lot which consists of certified and TTM obtained autographs (mainly post 1970). Please e-mail me at montooth13@yahoo.com and I'll e-mail you back with the excel file attached. I will sell the cards on a first come, first serve basis.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Rgs,
Greg M.
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<< <i>Hey Greg,
Don't know if you noticed or not, but a guy on Ebay with the name Gretch2662 has quite a few Goal Line Art cards for sale at what I think are fairly reasonable prices. By my count, he has FIVE of the ones that you need.
Rocke >>
Rocke,
Thanks for letting me know. I would love to finish my GLA set, however I'm knee deep working on other vintage sets. I'm picked up some great cards lately - I'll post pictures soon (including a bunch that I bought over the weekend at the Sun Time show).
Rgs,
Greg M.
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<< <i>greg check your pms >>
Jay,
It was great to catch up w/ you at the Sun Times show...and I hope that I didn't drool on your Lambeau or Driscoll cards... Thanks for letting me see them in person...great pickups!
Rgs,
Greg M.
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<< <i>WOW! That's some haul. Were any of the cards pulled from packs? They look like they were mostly TTM. Any background story to this collection? >>
Frank,
I bought the collection from a dealer in upstate NY who bought the collection from a long time collector. Included in the lot were several of the letters that the collector sent with his requests...so it definately seems legit. It is a very nice lot.
What's funny is that approximately 20 signed 1957 Topps cards were included in the lot including 2 that I need. The only problem - the dipsh*t cut the 1957 Topps cards IN HALF and mailed out the half with the players picture to get signed. I could have cried when I saw the cards....
Rgs,
Greg M.
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Rgs,
Greg M.
Jim Parker
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1971 Jim Tyrer (Chiefs) - signed in blue ballpoint (card #206) - Died 1981 - looking for $60
1971 Hewritt Dixon (Raiders) - signed in red ballpoint (card #95) - Died 1992 - looking for $80
1984 Walter Payton (Bears) - Topps card #229 - Instant Replay - Died 1999 - faded black marker*
1988 Walter Payton (Bears) - Topps card #5 - Record Breaker - Died 1999 - blue Sharpie *
*the Payton cards are being sold together - looking for $75 for the pair
Scans are available...just give me an e-mail address to send them to.
Bart
That really is a butch job. What an ugly card.
Todd
Check your e-mail:}. Thanks.
Ken
Agree, that is one ugly card. I love the design around the cut especially:}. I refuse to buy manufacture certified cuts for that very reason, they are typically overpriced by several multiples because of the perceived scarcity and I would rather have the original item as it presents better. I do understand for you registry guys though why you chase them!
Ken
So what do you think honestly about this purchase I just made:
Len Ford Autograph
I compared the autograph to other "Lennie Ford" examples and it definitely did not match up perfectly. It was close, but the "L" was different and the slant on the "F" was different. I decided to take a chance though based on the price, my 85% confidence in the sig, and the JSA authentication. I will probably cut and submit to PSA/DNA to get it encapsulated.
Ken
Nice pick-up. The first time they listed that autograph about 6-8 months ago, they had it listed for something like $ 1,000.00 or make an offer. I offered $ 500.00 , they responded and said that they would not accept anything less than $ 750.00 SHREWD move on their part. I'll take it off your hands for $ 500.00 any day of the week. Was that a BIN? Unbelievable !!!
Rocke
Yes, it was a Thanksgiving special I guess. They sent me an e-mail saying it ships Monday, so we will see. I used my credit card just to be safe. I am guessing you felt it was solid if you offered $500:}. Thanks for the feedback.
Ken
Well, considering that I picked up a Henry Jordan autographed program for $300 recently, Joe Guyon signed 1932 sheet for $160, and a few other "deals" in my opinion....I would have to believe that either the market is a little softer right now due to the economy or more material is being unearthed and made available.
Ken
Ken - your Heff will go out this Monday, I promise. Was called into work on Saturday, but will have Monday off. Thanks again.
Bart
HOF RC Auto Set
1955 Topps Football AA
1950 Bowman Football
1951 Bowman Football
1952 Bowman Football
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No worries, get it out whenever you can. Ditto everyone else...several solid purchases from Ron.
Ken
<< <i>Mark,
No worries, get it out whenever you can. Ditto everyone else...several solid purchases from Ron.
Ken >>
Agreed - Ron is a great guy to deal with.
Greg M.
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Rgs,
Greg M.
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29 1 16152974 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1948 BOWMAN 36 BULLDOG TURNER PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
30 1 16152975 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1948 BOWMAN 63 PETE PIHOS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
31 1 16152976 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1948 BOWMAN 61 ALEX WOJCIECHOWICZ PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
32 1 16152977 POOR 1 1948 BOWMAN 7 STEVE VAN BUREN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
33 1 16152978 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1948 BOWMAN 22 SAM BAUGH PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
34 1 16152979 VERY GOOD 3 1948 LEAF 36 BILL DUDLEY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
35 1 16152980 VERY GOOD 3 1950 BOWMAN 35 JOE PERRY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
36 1 16152981 EXCELLENT 5 1950 BOWMAN 6 LOU GROZA PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
37 1 16152982 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1950 BOWMAN 43 MARION MOTLEY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
38 1 16152983 EXCELLENT 5 1950 BOWMAN 51 TOM FEARS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
39 1 16152984 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1950 BOWMAN 5 Y.A. TITTLE PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
40 1 16152985 GOOD 2 1950 BOWMAN 9 TONY CANADEO PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
41 1 16152986 EXCELLENT 5 1950 BOWMAN 78 DANTE LAVELLI PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
42 1 16152987 EXCELLENT 5 1951 BOWMAN 21 ARNIE WEINMEISTER PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
43 1 16152988 GOOD 2 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 127 OLLIE MATSON PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
44 1 16152989 EXCELLENT 5 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 85 ANDY ROBUSTELLI PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
45 1 16152990 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 140 YALE LARY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
46 1 16152991 EXCELLENT 5 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 29 HUGH McELHENNY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
47 1 16152992 VERY GOOD 3 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 23 GINO MARCHETTI PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
48 1 16152993 GOOD 2 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 16 FRANK GIFFORD PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
49 1 16152994 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1952 BOWMAN SMALL 46 ART DONOVAN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
50 1 16152995 EXCELLENT 5 1955 TOPPS ALL-AMER. 66 BRUISER KINARD PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
51 1 16152996 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1955 BOWMAN 101 BOB ST. CLAIR PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
52 1 16152997 EXCELLENT+ 5.5 1955 BOWMAN 42 JOHN H. JOHNSON PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
53 1 16152998 VERY GOOD 3 1956 TOPPS 71 STAN JONES PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
54 1 16152999 EXCELLENT-MINT+ 6.5 1958 TOPPS 90 SONNY JURGENSEN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
55 1 16153000 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1958 TOPPS 62 JIM BROWN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
56 1 16153001 EXCELLENT 5 1959 TOPPS 51 SAM HUFF PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
57 1 16153002 EXCELLENT 5 1959 TOPPS 140 BOBBY MITCHELL PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
58 1 16153003 EXCELLENT 5 1961 TOPPS 182 JIM OTTO PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
59 1 16153004 N0: AUTHENTIC 1967 PHILADELPHIA 96 LOS ANGELES RAMS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
60 1 16153005 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1964 PHILADELPHIA 72 WILLIE DAVIS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
61 1 16153006 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1970 TOPPS 151 TOM MACK PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
62 1 16153007 EXCELLENT 5 1972 TOPPS 104 RON YARY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
63 1 16153008 NEAR MINT 7 1973 TOPPS 341 JIM LANGER PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
64 1 16153009 MINT 9 1982 TOPPS 483 FRED DEAN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
65 1 16153010 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 TOPPS 129 DWIGHT STEPHENSON PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
66 1 16153011 EXCELLENT 5 1987 TOPPS 207 GARY ZIMMERMAN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
67 1 16153012 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1992 PRO LINE PROFILES AUTOGRAPHS 3 ART SHELL PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
68 1 16153013 NEAR MINT 7 1992 PRO LINE PROFILES AUTOGRAPHS 3 JOE GIBBS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
69 1 16153014 MINT 9 1992 TOPPS 338 RANDALL McDANIEL PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
70 1 16153015 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1994 PROLINE LIVE AUTOGRAPH PSA/DNA CERTIFIED JACKIE SLATER PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
71 1 16153016 MINT 9 1994 TOPPS ARCHIVES 1956 REPRINT 8 LOU CREEKMUR '56 REPRINT-PSA/DNA CERT. Card US
72 1 16153017 NEAR MINT 7 1989 SWELL GREATS 89 JOE SCHMIDT PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
73 1 16153018 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 SWELL GREATS 75 GEORGE McAFEE PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
74 1 16153019 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 UPPER DECK LEGENDS AL-82 BOBBY BELL PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
75 1 16153020 MINT 9 1997 UPPER DECK LEGENDS 48 JOHN MACKEY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
76 1 16153021 NEAR MINT 7 2000 TOPPS HALL OF FAME CLASS HOF4 DAN ROONEY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED Card US
HOF RC Auto Set
1955 Topps Football AA
1950 Bowman Football
1951 Bowman Football
1952 Bowman Football
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congrats on the slater. every one that i have ever sent in only comes back as authentic. they claim that they were altered.
Collecting:
Brett Favre Master Set
Favre Ticket Stubs
Favre TD Reciever Autos
Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
Football HOF Rc's