Official NFL HOF autograph set thread???

Reese3333

I would love to see both of their collections, but your right who needs that many Thorpe autos. There have been two PSA/DNA Thorpe autos on ebay just this last week that sold for $1400 and $1000. I couldn't justify spending 6X what the autograph is worth.

LEDFOOT

ok guys I have a question,

When selling autograph sets do they do better raw or graded?



Thanks

Paul

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Collecting

1981 Basketball #2 All-Time

jradke4

<< <i>

<< <i>I've talked to the seller before and he was hoping to get between 6000-7000. He asked if I was interested but I didn't have that much cash at the time. It may have been my only shot at getting a certified Thorpe since those 2 guys are buying every Thorpe out there. >>



Seriously, how many Jim Thorpe autographs does one person need? I think it's silly to say the least.

I think you're best bet finding a Thorpe auto is to buy an auto'd 1933 Sports Kings. I bet you could find one cheaper (although there aren't many out there) than a cut auto. For some reason, people go crazy over cut autographs.

Regards,

Greg M. >>



Greg,

I agree. But we also see the same with people that collect HOF Rc cards for example. I hate it when I am trying to pick up a card to only to see someone who already has one or two swooping in at the last second to pick up another. But then again this can also be a business for some people. But for the Thorpe guys not too many people will pay that much for that card. I put a decent bid on the last cut that sold on ebay but was still out bid.

Jay

gregm13

<< <i>ok guys I have a question,

When selling autograph sets do they do better raw or graded?



Thanks

Paul

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Collecting

1981 Basketball #2 All-Time >>



Paul,

It just depends. If dealing with rare/expensive autographs, then definately have them PSA/DNA authenticated. If cheaper/easier to find, I don't think there's a huge differerence b/t raw and graded.

Greg M.

gregm13

It really P*SSES me off that I can't bid on CJ's auctions. I saw the Turk Edwards first and couldn't bid on it. I tried to get someone else bid on it for me but couldn't find anyone . Next time I look, Reese bought it.......

Greg M.

jradke4

where was it greg?? have a link??

since we are all looking for the same things maybe we need some agreement as to how to handle auctions? just a thought.

gregm13

<< <i>where was it greg?? have a link??

since we are all looking for the same things maybe we need some agreement as to how to handle auctions? just a thought. >>



I could just strangle CJ...unreal. Here is the link.

Greg M.

Turk Edwards

gregm13

Reese,

I'm just curious why you bought the Turk Edwards? You just finished showing us the Turk Edwards cut that Knuckles made for you...why go after the 1955 All American? To be honest, the cut you have is a lot nicer (bolder) autograph than the 1955 All American that you bought.

Regards,

Greg M.

jradke4

wow that went fast. yesterday i did my normal searches, he must have listed last night.

as for why reese might buy it maybe he isnt as convinced as he has said that PSA will allow him to add his cuts to the set. yes they will slab them but maybe he is worried that they might not take them for the set. any other reasons he will have to speak for himself.

everyone needs to know that from here on out this is going to be cut throat. just like with the marshall auto. reese posted the link he but i had seen it earlier in the day than that. what i have learned now what i need to do when an item is posted is to try to immediately email the seller to have him end the auction early. it going to be who ever swoops in earliest will get the prize. that is unless we all agreee to let the auction run its course and then its whoever bids the highest.

gregm13

<< <i>wow that went fast. yesterday i did my normal searches, he must have listed last night.

as for why reese might buy it maybe he isnt as convinced as he has said that PSA will allow him to add his cuts to the set. yes they will slab them but maybe he is worried that they might not take them for the set. any other reasons he will have to speak for himself.

everyone needs to know that from here on out this is going to be cut throat. just like with the marshall auto. reese posted the link he but i had seen it earlier in the day than that. what i have learned now what i need to do when an item is posted is to try to immediately email the seller to have him end the auction early. it going to be who ever swoops in earliest will get the prize. that is unless we all agreee to let the auction run its course and then its whoever bids the highest. >>



As far as I'm concerned, people can do whatever they want as long as they're not purposesly bidding up another registry member or something else shady. Reese did nothing wrong, I was just surprised that he bought it considering he just spent a mint buying the cut and having Knuckles make the card for him.

I'm just really steamed that CJ has blocked me - I was trying to buy the card for 20 minutes before it was bought...just very, very frustrating.

Greg M.

Fabfrank

Just updated my set and added a Gifford, Van Brocklin and upgraded my Marchettit. Waiting on our group sub so I can add about 12 autos. You can check out the scans here: HOF set

Reese3333

Hey guys,

I am not pretty certain that my Knuckles cuts will not allowed in the registry. My brother actually called me and told me he found the 55 Edwards. He said it looked good so he grabbed it for me. The signature looks good to me, but I have been wrong in the past. Hopefully it will pass!

gregm13

<< <i>Just updated my set and added a Gifford, Van Brocklin and upgraded my Marchettit. Waiting on our group sub so I can add about 12 autos. You can check out the scans here: HOF set >>



Frank,

Great cards - congrats on the new additions. I love that Van Brocklin!

Regards,

Greg M.

Fabfrank

I love that Van Brocklin!

Figured you would

jradke4

I updated mine as well. Now i just have to send out the ungraded cards to be graded on the next special. Also figure out why my waterfield is labeled as a post card and not an exhibit card.

gregm13

Jay,

Nice job. What cards do you have left to be graded?

Greg M.

jradke4

Greg,

Its just cards that are only PSA/DNA authenticated no grade. They come up as a 1 in the set. I wish I could say that I had a Marshall to add but you have that one. At the present there are no others in the works. Probably wont hear much from me until I land one of those hard to come by cards that we are all searching for, not before thats for sure. It will be a tough fight.

Jay

jradke4

I picked up a Trafton PSA/DNA check on ebay last week. Have been stuck in Albany, NY until yesterday.

gregm13

2 orders posted today:

PSA Order Status for Submission # 4548226


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 09204302 1974 FLEER H.O.F. ERNIE NEVERS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6
2 09204303 1975 FLEER H.O.F. 57 ALEX WOJCIECHOWICZ PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 7
3 09204304 1975 FLEER H.O.F. 10 CLARKE HINKLE PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6
4 09204305 1975 FLEER H.O.F. 41 PETE PIHOS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6

Date Received: 11/29/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 12/18/2007
Date Shipped: No Date Specified

gregm13

2nd order:

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 09204306 1993 COLLECTOR'S EDGE 10 BUFFALO BILLS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
2 09204307 1994 TOPPS ARCHIVES 44 JOE SCHMIDT '56 REPRINT-PSA/DNA CERT. 6
3 09204308 1997 UD LEG.SIGN/TIMES ST5 TERRY BRADSHAW PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
4 09204309 1997 U.D. LEGENDS 13 FRAN TARKENTON PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
4 09204310 1997 U.D. LEGENDS 28 LARRY CSONKA PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 7
4 09204311 1997 U.D. LEGENDS 166 KEN STABLER PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
5 09204312 1997 SP AUTHENTIC KARIM ABDUL-JABBAR SIGN/TIMES-PSA/DNA CERT. 8
5 09204313 1997 SP AUTHENTIC KARIM ABDUL-JABBAR SIGN/TIMES-PSA/DNA CERT. 7
6 09204314 1997 SP AUTHENTIC JERRY RICE SIGN/TIMES-PSA/DNA CERT. 8
7 09204315 1997 SP AUTHENTIC WARRICK DUNN SIGN/TIMES-PSA/DNA CERT. 7
8 09204316 1997 SP AUTHENTIC TERRELL DAVIS SIGN/TIMES-PSA/DNA CERT. 8
9 09204317 1997 SP AUTHENTIC TONY GONZALEZ SIGN/TIMES-PSA/DNA CERT. 8
10 09204318 1997 SP AUTHENTIC MARSHALL FAULK SIGN/TIMES-PSA/DNA CERT. 8
11 09204319 1997 SP AUTHENTIC TROY AIKMAN SIGN/TIMES-PSA/DNA CERT. 7
11 09204320 1997 SP AUTHENTIC TROY AIKMAN SIGN/TIMES-PSA/DNA CERT. 8
12 09204321 1997 SP AUTHENTIC GEORGE JONES SIGN/TIMES-PSA/DNA CERT. 7
13 09204322 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. FRANCO HARRIS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
13 09204323 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. FRANCO HARRIS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 9
14 09204324 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. GALE SAYERS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
14 09204325 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. GALE SAYERS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 7
14 09204326 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. GALE SAYERS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
15 09204327 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. TONY DORSETT PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
15 09204328 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. TONY DORSETT PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 7
16 09204329 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. STEVE LARGENT PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 5
16 09204330 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. STEVE LARGENT PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
17 09204331 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. JOE MONTANA PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
17 09204332 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. JOE MONTANA PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
18 09204333 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. BOB GRIESE PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6
19 09204334 1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. ROGER STAUBACH PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 2
20 09204335 1989 SWELL GREATS 10 DON HUTSON PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
21 09204336 1989 SWELL GREATS 38 SAMMY BAUGH PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 9
22 09204337 1989 SWELL GREATS 106 YALE LARY PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6
23 09204338 1989 SWELL GREATS 85 DICK LANE PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 7
24 09204339 1989 SWELL GREATS 84 ROOSEVELT BROWN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8
25 09204340 1989 SWELL GREATS 130 FRANK GATSKI PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 7
26 09204341 1989 SWELL GREATS 90 JIM PARKER PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6
27 09204342 1989 SWELL GREATS 123 ARNIE WEINMEISTER PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6
28 09204343 1989 SWELL GREATS 61 ELROY HIRSCH PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6
29 09204344 1989 SWELL GREATS 98 WEEB EWBANK PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 7
30 09204345 1989 SWELL GREATS 27 SID LUCKMAN CORRECT-PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 7
31 09204346 1989 SWELL GREATS 69 PAUL BROWN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6
32 09204347 1989 SWELL GREATS 104 JOHNNY UNITAS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 7
33 09204348 1989 SWELL GREATS 147 GENE UPSHAW PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6
34 09204349 1989 SWELL GREATS 111 DOUG ATKINS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 7
35 09204350 1989 SWELL GREATS 117 GEORGE MUSSO PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6
37 09204352 1989 SWELL GREATS 122 SID GILLMAN PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 8

Date Received: 11/29/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 12/18/2007
Date Shipped: No Date Specified

Reese3333

<< <i>2 orders posted today:

PSA Order Status for Submission # 4548226


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 09204302 1974 FLEER H.O.F. ERNIE NEVERS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6
2 09204303 1975 FLEER H.O.F. 57 ALEX WOJCIECHOWICZ PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 7
3 09204304 1975 FLEER H.O.F. 10 CLARKE HINKLE PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6
4 09204305 1975 FLEER H.O.F. 41 PETE PIHOS PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 6

Date Received: 11/29/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 12/18/2007
Date Shipped: No Date Specified >>




YES!!! Thats me again! I am so glad the Nevers passed. That was the best $40 I think I've spent!

jradke4

reese,

congrats on the grades.

jay

Fabfrank

That 2nd order is mine. Not happy with this one:
1997 SP AUTH.MARK LEG. ROGER STAUBACH PSA/DNA CERTIFIED 2
But overall satisfied with the grades. can't wait to get them.

Reese3333

Thanks Jay,

I really thought the Hinkle, Pihos, and Wojo were all 7's, but those 75s are tough to judge.

gregm13

Frank,

Another order of yours popped. It's amazing that only 1 of my orders has popped. Unreal.

PSA Order Status for Submission # 4548397


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 08265634 1998 RON MIX HOF JOE GIBBS PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8
2 08265635 1998 RON MIX HOF MERLIN OLSEN PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8
3 08265636 1998 RON MIX HOF TEX SCHRAMM PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8
4 08265637 1998 RON MIX HOF GEORGE BLANDA PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 7
5 08265638 1998 RON MIX HOF JOHN H. JOHNSON PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8
6 08265639 1998 RON MIX HOF JIMMY JOHNSON PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8

Date Received: 11/29/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 12/19/2007
Date Shipped: No Date Specified


Greg M.

jradke4

greg,

i am still waiting for my oct special. they finally logged in my modern from the show on 12/5.

jay

gregm13

Jay,

Good luck on your grades. What cards did you submit back in Oct? PSA has now officially lost 2 orders - 1 of Franks and 1 of mine. Both orders were slabbed PSA/DNA authentic cards that were being submitted for grading. I am absolutely screwed if the order is lost as I had an Al Davis that I listed the cost as $75 (so I could submit it at the $4.50 pricing). Unreal.

Greg M.

Fabfrank

PSA Order Status for Submission # 4548397


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 08265634 1998 RON MIX HOF JOE GIBBS PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8
2 08265635 1998 RON MIX HOF MERLIN OLSEN PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8
3 08265636 1998 RON MIX HOF TEX SCHRAMM PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8
4 08265637 1998 RON MIX HOF GEORGE BLANDA PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 7
5 08265638 1998 RON MIX HOF JOHN H. JOHNSON PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8
6 08265639 1998 RON MIX HOF JIMMY JOHNSON PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8

Date Received: 11/29/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 12/19/2007
Date Shipped: No Date Specified


I'm really happy with this order. I didn't think these cards would be given a number grade. I'm really psyched !!

jradke4

Greg,

Well hopefully they find them. As for my october order, some signed cards and favres.

Jay

jradke4

Frank,

Nice grades on those indeed!!!

Jay

gregm13

<< <i>PSA Order Status for Submission # 4548397


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 08265634 1998 RON MIX HOF JOE GIBBS PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8
2 08265635 1998 RON MIX HOF MERLIN OLSEN PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8
3 08265636 1998 RON MIX HOF TEX SCHRAMM PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8
4 08265637 1998 RON MIX HOF GEORGE BLANDA PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 7
5 08265638 1998 RON MIX HOF JOHN H. JOHNSON PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8
6 08265639 1998 RON MIX HOF JIMMY JOHNSON PLATINUM AUTOGRAPHS 8

Date Received: 11/29/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 12/19/2007
Date Shipped: No Date Specified


I'm really happy with this order. I didn't think these cards would be given a number grade. I'm really psyched !! >>



Nice job Frank!! Congrats!

Greg M.

Reese3333

Had an Oct special finally pop today.

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 07293176 2001 DONRUSS CLASSICS 175 BOB GRIESE SIGNIFICANT SIGNATURES 8
2 07293177 2001 DONRUSS CLASSICS 179 FRAN TARKENTON SIGNIFICANT SIGNATURES 9
3 07293178 2001 DONRUSS CLASSICS 160 OTTO GRAHAM SIGNIFICANT SIGNATURES 8
4 07293179 2001 DONRUSS CLASSICS 181 FRANK GIFFORD SIGNIFICANT SIGNATURES 8
5 07293180 2001 DONRUSS CLASSICS 177 LARRY CSONKA SIGNIFICANT SIGNATURES 9
6 07293181 2001 DONRUSS CLASSICS 195 STEVE LARGENT SIGNIFICANT SIGNATURES 8
7 07293182 2001 DONRUSS CLASSICS 186 FRED BILETNIKOFF SIGNIFICANT SIGNATURES 8
8 07293183 2001 SP AUTHENTIC JK JIM KELLY SIGN OF THE TIMES 9
9 07293184 1999 SP SIGNATURE PW PAUL WARFIELD AUTOGRAPHED 8
10 07293185 1999 SP SIGNATURE JL JAMES LOFTON AUTOGRAPHED 9
11 07293186 1999 SP SIGNATURE OZ OZZIE NEWSOME AUTOGRAPHED 9
12 07293187 1999 SP SIGNATURE SW JOHN STALLWORTH AUTOGRAPHED 9
13 07293188 1999 SP SIGNATURE JH JACK HAM AUTOGRAPHED 10
14 07293189 1999 UD CENTURY LEGEND DB DICK BUTKUS EPIC SIGNATURES 9
15 07293190 1999 UD CENTURY LEGEND LD LEN DAWSON EPIC SIGNATURES 9
16 07293191 1999 UD CENTURY LEGEND DF DAN FOUTS EPIC SIGNATURES 9
17 07293192 1999 UD CENTURY LEGEND MY DON MAYNARD EPIC SIGNATURES 10
18 07293193 1999 UD CENTURY LEGEND MS MIKE SINGLETARY EPIC SIGNATURES 10
19 07293194 2002 FLEER THROWBACKS Y.A. TITTLE GREATS OF GAME AUTOGRAPH 8
20 07293195 2002 FLEER THROWBACKS TONY DORSETT GREATS OF GAME AUTOGRAPH 8
21 07293196 2002 FLEER THROWBACKS ERIC DICKERSON GREATS OF GAME AUTOGRAPH 8
22 07293197 2002 FLEER THROWBACKS FRANCO HARRIS GREATS OF GAME AUTOGRAPH 8
23 07293198 2002 FLEER THROWBACKS HOWIE LONG GREATS OF GAME AUTOGRAPH 10
24 07293199 2002 FLEER THROWBACKS LAWRENCE TAYLOR GREATS OF GAME AUTOGRAPH 8
25 07293200 2001 ULTRA BOB LILLY COLLEGE GREATS PREV.-AUTO 8

Date Received: 10/31/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 12/20/2007
Date Shipped: No Date Specified

jradke4

Nice set of grades Reese.

Reese3333

Thanks Jay!

I also got my George Young signed Pro Set card today. It is in great conditon and the signature is perfect. I will try and get a scan up ASAP.

Reese3333

I was looking to the Donruss website, and they said that Playoff National Treasures will be released at the end on January. There was no checklist, but here is a card they were using in their advertisement.

envoy98

Um...They LOST 2 orders?

Reese3333

Yikes!!! I was hoping to pick up this Clark Shaughnessy cut since he could be elected, but for $427!!!!Seriously, that is insane

Clark Shaughnessy Leaf Limited Cuts

IMeddie

Yikes is right!

jradke4

plus its a redemption. just think about what you might get in return. its not a sure thing it would be the auto that you were hoping for. i would never bid that much for any redemption card.

Fabfrank

plus its a redemption. just think about what you might get in return. its not a sure thing it would be the auto that you were hoping for. i would never bid that much for any redemption card.

Since it's supposed to be a cut signature, there should be less risk to this type of redemption. Leaf probably hasn't made the card yet. It wouldn't make sense to include the card in the product if they didn't already have the signatures. But than again, these are card companies
who knows what excuse they might come up with.

gregm13

<< <i>plus its a redemption. just think about what you might get in return. its not a sure thing it would be the auto that you were hoping for. i would never bid that much for any redemption card. >>



So, Leaf took a $10 check, cut the sig and slapped it on a card and now its worth $400+++?? Absolutely crazy. Reason #1 why I don't collect cut autographs, except for autographs that are impossible to obtain otherwise.

Greg M.

Fabfrank

So, Leaf took a $10 check, cut the sig and slapped it on a card and now its worth $400+++??

Remember Greg, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay

I think cut autos offer a great opportunity to obtain autos (in card form) of deceased players. The card companies could do a better job of presenting them (ala Knuckles). I'm not crazy about the sticker autos though. I know it makes it more cost effective to obtain autos for players this way, but I think there are enough opprtunities and venues were you can get a gathering of players to hand sign a card. For veteran or retired players it should be even easier.

Reese3333

I was shocked by the price, considering the value of a Shaughnessy's autograph. I thought it might end around $100. The Donruss website originally said the print run was 4, however now it looks like Shaughnessy has been removed from the checklist.

IMeddie

A redemtion card for a cut auto is inexcusable in my opinion.

Happy holidays - after I dig out from all the snow here in WI!

Reese3333

<< <i>A redemtion card for a cut auto is inexcusable in my opinion.

Happy holidays - after I dig out from all the snow here in WI! >>



Thats a good point. If they don't have the signatures in hand when the product is released, they probably should not insert redemptions for them. From searching ebay for the Leaf Limited cuts, I know off the top of my head that Ray Flaherty, Ace Parker, Tony Canadeo, and Shaughnessy were all redemption cards.

Happy Holidays everyone!

IMeddie

I can't even spell today!

Why can't they have cut autos for the guys we all need!

It will certainly be interesting when the National Treasures checklist is revealed.

Reese3333

The only other information given about National Treasures was this list:

Hall of Famers Featuring:
Jim Thorpe, Red Grange, Dutch Clark, Johnny Unitas, Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Dan Marino, John Elway, Gale Sayers, Bart Starr, Joe Montana, Joe Namath, Sam Huff, Sammy Baugh, Sid Luckman, Doak Walker, Otto Graham, Bobby Layne, Chuck Bednarik, Elroy “Crazylegs” Hirsch, Bob Waterfield, Tom Fears, Norm Van Brocklin, Ollie Matson, Marion Motley

Reese3333

Well, the Turk Edwards showed up today. I am very happy with the signature and overall condition. Off to PSA....

gregm13

Nice Reese - I hope it passes PSA/DNA. My Marshall and Neale still aren't checked in at PSA. It was delivered on December 15th and still hasn't been entered.

Greg M.

Reese3333

Thanks Greg!

Yeah, I hope it passes. Good luck again with Neale and Marshall. I had a $13/5 day order that arrived at PSA on Dec 11 and was not entered until today. I think they are running a little slow because of the holidays.