1972 Topps Baseball - Official PSA Thread!

QUIK · January 19, 2006 12:00AM

Hey guys, i have a few 72's i would like to sell or trade , if anyone here is interested i just registered the set its Silvers 72's # 57 as of today. pm or email quiks57set@aol Thanks Jeff

ArnyVee · January 19, 2006 9:41AM

Unfortunately, I have all of the ones that you've added to your set already. Darn.

Keep us informed if you come across additional cards.

ArnyVee · January 20, 2006 8:57PM

Picked up a Don Sutton card for less than $20

Down to 47 left to finish the set!

lostdart58 · January 21, 2006 2:59AM

OT here...but i am very excited......so excuse my excitement..

Bob Gibson, Cardinal great and HOFer played golf at my home golf course ( for the second time this week) today and I was able to gather a few autographs. He was very gracious in autographing.......

Although I have two Gibson cards, one of which is his 59 Rookie card in raw ex-nr shape, ( the other of which is his encapsulated 72 card) I chose to have him autograph two of the back of my business cards............one of these autos will be sent to Knuckles to have him work his magic in making his"work Of Art" auto cards....

Thanks to Bob Gibson a fine gentleman....

kalch23 · January 21, 2006 8:56AM

113 psa 8 NQ

Have Fun!

ArnyVee · January 21, 2006 11:57AM

Kalch, make sure that you don't accept any bids from anyone aside from me on the couple of cards that I need!

lostdart58 · January 21, 2006 11:37PM

MY GOD!! There is now over 850 EBAY listings of PSA graded 72 Topps......................far and away the most I have EVER seen at one time .

For anyone who wants to start or add to their PSA 8 72 set, NOW is the time............lots of opportunity for picking up cheap "8s" this week.

ArnyVee · January 21, 2006 11:39PM

Jami, congrats on the Gibson auto's!

I was saying the same thing with the '72s on eBay right now...holy mackerol! You new guys...take advantage and jump on those cheap $5 opening bids because you'll probably be able to grab a vast majority of those! Jami, Maggio, BillNovick, Dave & I won't be touching most of those commons, so you'll get a good chunk of the set at the price of 'special' grading! Wow.

dude · January 22, 2006 12:30PM

NOTE to a 1972 Registry collector:

I've been getting this message for the past several days:

Another member is attempting to add the following certification number to his/her set:

40313087 1972 TOPPS CARL YASTRZEMSKI 37 (Baseball:1972 Topps-Dan Markel)

Assuming that you no longer own this item, please remove it from your set(s) and validate your set(s) as soon as possible.
Click here to login and delete the item from your set(s).

If you still own this item, please contact Set Registry Customer Service immediately.

Thank you.

Set Registry Customer Service

I have this card in my possession and it's in my set. I'd be curious if any of you are the ones trying to register it and if so, do you really have the card? I've replied back to PSA with a scan stating that I own this card and not to remove it from my set.

ArnyVee · January 22, 2006 9:15PM

I haven't tried to add a Yaz to my set since about the 10% completion mark. So, it's not my doing.

Hopefully it's not one of those cases where someone grabbed a scan from a pic that they saw and are trying to 'fake' their way up the ranks.

It could be that someone just keeps typing in the incorrect number. Not sure, but if it's multiple times, I'd almost rule the 'mistake' excuse out.

lostdart58 · January 22, 2006 9:40PM

Dan,

PSA's computor system has some flaws...... or..........perhaps if the Yaz card was recently purchaced on EBAY someone took down the serial number.............................by sending them the scan, this issue will go away.

Arny,

Sorry but last night, ( for the first time an a long time) I had to outbid you on a card. ( Ellis IA)

18 cards to go..............( assuming that four cards that are long overdue have not been lost in the mail)

Jami

ArnyVee · January 22, 2006 9:50PM

Jami, that's no problem!

I just picked up the card in another seperate deal

beach64 · January 22, 2006 10:26PM

In the case of the Yaz card it could be someone adding a few cards at a time and transposing a number. If the group of cards were graded together they will probably have numbers that are very close to each other. I know I have done that a few times over the years.

imafishinnut · January 22, 2006 10:36PM

It is amazing to me how many PSA 8 or better cards are currently on Ebay! The only problem is that I don't have a lot of spending capital right now

However, I will be low balling a bunch of PSA 8s and 9s. I just picked up 11 PSA 9s at about $15 each including shipping. I hadn't planned on picking up many PSA 9s; however, it is hard to pass them up in that price range.

Regards,
Mike

ArnyVee · January 22, 2006 11:06PM

Hey Mike, congrats on those 9s! Nice prices on those!

You know, I never thought of listing the prices that I paid for the cards in the comments section of the set registry. Sheesh...and me with all of these fancy spreadsheets.

Looks like you're getting a nice start to the set. Keep it up!

ArnyVee · January 23, 2006 9:57PM

Another decent sized group of PSA 8s has hit eBay at an opening bid of ....$3! Guys, if ever there was a time to jump on stuff...now's the time! Go get 'em!

imafishinnut · January 23, 2006 10:22PM

I won 8 PSA 8s at between $3 and $3.50 each yesterday. Can't beat that price considering it is less than grading cost! I will be bidding on a bunch more when those get down to the last day.

Mike

lostdart58 · January 28, 2006 6:02AM

Arny,

I see you picked up the Aaron IA.............

ArnyVee · January 28, 2006 9:37AM

Yup, picked up the Grand Daddy of the '72 set! Had to make the move on that one! I also picked up the Bob Gibson card, the Harrelson BH, R.Stone and the Padres & Red rookies. I think I got a decent deal on those five which makes up a little on having to overpay for the Aaron IA.

But, I'm happy overall! I believe that I've got 41 remaining now to complete the set once I add these to the set.

lostdart58 · February 1, 2006 9:22AM

I have been patiently waiting for a box from 4 Sharp Corners..............it has been just about a month...it appears to be lost in the mail........................Mind you there is insurance and I will get a refund if it does not show up...................Unfortunetily the package contains FOUR cards that I need for my set including the tough Schaal IA and the Harrelson BH..................
.........needless to say i am a bit bummed.............

ArnyVee · February 5, 2006 6:19AM

Still a decent amount of 72s out on the 'bay, but none of those low pop ones that I need!

Jami, I hope that the box shows up soon!

dalew · February 5, 2006 6:58AM

Yeah, its been a great week for 72's. This is my third attempt (Dale Wedge 3rd Attempt at this Set) on the board.

I think I'm around 40% complete on the set.

Keep 'em coming.

Dale

lostdart58 · February 5, 2006 7:17AM

<< <i>Yeah, its been a great week for 72's. This is my third attempt (Dale Wedge 3rd Attempt at this Set) on the board.

I think I'm around 40% complete on the set.

Keep 'em coming.

Dale >>

Dale,

You bought a bunch from me on Thursday night off ebay.........box went out yesterday ( saturday)...I threw in insurance ...let me know when you get the package...........The package is coming from the US Virgin islands and will take an extra day or two or three.........

Good luck in completing the set.

Jami

lostdart58 · February 5, 2006 7:21AM

I was able to pick up one card last night.......the always tough #723 Santorini...even got it in a PSA 9.............

There are also two other cards i need up this week....maybe i will get lucky......

ArnyVee · February 5, 2006 8:27AM

I had an eye on that Santorini, but it got a little higher than I was willing to pay. Congrats to you Jami, that's a nice pickup!

BarkusD · February 5, 2006 10:32AM

I don't know what is going on at 4SC, but had a package "lost in the mail" and I won a PSA 10 from them that they said was a mislisting. Have you seen proof that they shipped the cards?

lostdart58 · February 5, 2006 10:55AM

Dave,

4SC provided me with a USPS delivary confirmation #................I believe they send all their packages and envelopes with delivery confirmation since they use a 3rd party insurance company on all their shipments.

Jami

kennylow · February 6, 2006 4:32AM

I had some 72s graded recently and pulled a 9 - #24 Ted Ford.

If anyone is interested in trading for it, please let me know - kenny98z11@yahoo.com
I'm willing to trade down to 8s.

Actually, come to think of it, I'm willing to trade other PSA 9s too, here is what I have:
218 Eddie Kasko
430 Bob Robertson IA
461 Tim Cullen
472 Phil Gagliano
482 Joe Hoerner
502 Jackie Hernandez
551 Ollie Brown
561 Leo Cardenas
723 George Culver

I'm looking for 8s as replacements for these cards, as well as other 8s. Email me the 8s you have to trade, and lets see if we can work something out.

BarkusD · February 6, 2006 9:08AM

Interesting. 4SC wasn't able to provide me any information about my "lost" package. I ended up getting a refund and having to scramble to replace the cards that I thought I had bought from them.

ArnyVee · February 10, 2006 9:40AM

Jami, you got me on that John Kennedy card!

We should communicate in order to avoid bidding each other up on these things. I had a snipe on that thing since it was posted, but didn't bother looking at your set to see if you needed it or not.

PM me a list of the cards you need and I'll try and avoid bidding on those.

lostdart58 · February 10, 2006 6:08PM

Arny,

There are now only five cards that we both need.......182, 230, 518, 582, and 702.
...if one of them comes up we can discuss bidding strategy privately......

Jami

ArnyVee · February 11, 2006 4:14AM

Ten Four Good Buddy!

lostdart58 · February 18, 2006 4:58AM

Its been a week without a post:

A number of new names in the set registry: any of you newbies out there feel free to post your trials and tribs of collecting this set here...............

Larry Emard who is just ahead of me tells me he is down to needing just one card (Expos team card) Aren't we all missing that one!!

It appears Dan Markel is selling off parts of his set as he has been dropping in the standings.

My "lost" package never arrived.......I am waiting on the insurance claim.

BarkusD · February 18, 2006 5:31AM

582 was the last one I needed to complete my set. I paid Bill Novick a lot of money and trade cards for his (although he has returned the favor by buying from me a lot of low pops he needed for his set).

I have a raw 582 that has a shot at an 8 and will be at least a 7. I am getting cards together for a very large submission, which I will probably submit in April. The 582 will likely be part of the group along with some other low pop raw 72s.

bri2327 · February 18, 2006 6:31AM

If anyone is interested, I just got this back from PSA today......a really nice 72 Reggie...I thought this had a great chance at a 9.......I will entertain offers before throwing it up on ebay....pm me if interested, thanks !

ArnyVee · February 19, 2006 12:11AM

That's a nice Reggie Bri. Too bad that I already have it, or I would throw an offer at you on that one.

I've contacted a couple of '72 collectors and haven't been able to seal the deal on a trade. So, I will post this out there for all to see. I've got the Joe Morgan Traded card in PSA 9 that goes for around $250 or so. Now, I'm looking to have an all PSA 8 set, so I'm willing to deal this one or the Morgan 8 plus an additional card (or two

) that I need for my set. If anyone is interested in this deal (or has another proposal such as some '57 Topps cards, etc) please e-mail me at SCMAuctions@aol.com or just drop me a PM.

By the way, I'm sorry that your package was lost Jami. With those tough cards (and at the decent deals that you got) it really must sting. Keep your head up!

billpack · February 19, 2006 1:41AM

Thank you for mentioning that I returned the favor by purchasing cards from your store.You have THE best site for getting 1972 Topps cards anywhere on the internet that I have been able to locate.You gave me a deal that I couldn't refuse for that #582 card.However, that is one of the cards I need to complete MY set registry.Doesn't everybody need this card? I always wonder why these cards aren't priced differently in the PSA SMR.Also,why doesn't the SMR list prices for the 10's? If they asked a few of the top set registry guys like OUTER BANK YANK,or LMAYER,or ROBESM,or TROUT BUM,or SOX and CUBBIES,or MWKSPORTS,or BBCARD EXCHANGE,or ITZAGONER,or 4 CORNERS BASEBALL, READ,HORTON,OLENDER,GLIBERSCHER, IRWIN,BRYRICDYE,JAMI,ARNY, DAVE, and a few others(sorry if I missed you),I believe they would have a better listing than what they have now. Do the prices in the SMER ever change??? On to better things...I am closing in on Joe Maggio,Jami,and Arny.I still need a small bunch in the double digits.I have been trying to find the following and would be willing to help anyone upgrade their set,get two,three,or four for one,plus other incentives to find these: #5,39,93,133,144,228,230,296,524,532,582,708 and some other commons.HELP!HELP! HELP!Your help would be greatly appreciated.

ArnyVee · February 19, 2006 1:46AM

Nice to see you on the boards Bill!

Finally made it, I see!

Well, I think that SMR is really out of whack when it comes to many sets. But, if you ask anyone what the price on a PSA 8 Hank Aaron IA, it certainly isn't worth $110 when the lowest I've seen the card go for the last year is $198. Same with the Schaal and many commons and minor stars in the set.

How/when does SMR update their prices? I've seen more modern stuff go up and down in value, but not the vintage stuff.

billpack · February 19, 2006 10:38PM

Hey Arny,Did you receive my email on an offer to trade??I missed Tbergh and lo and behold ,he is offering a #5 Bateman in PSA 8.Thanks for putting it up for bid!!Now if someone would only offer a #582,708,532,230,228,144,133,93,39???? Since this is the PSA Set Registry" official" forum,why doesn't PSA update some of the vintage card prices so it better refelects the current market??I realize prices and populations change,however,isn't that what the mag is supposed to do???The only thing I have seen change in the set are + and -.They have no listings for prices on tens???Why??? Many prices are out of whack? See #582,708,78,22,40,230,434,etc...???WHY??? Anybody have any reasons why they don't adjust it????

lostdart58 · February 19, 2006 11:05PM

Bill,

I have never studied ( or seen) the SMR values of PSA or anyone else for that matter........I may be wrong but I do no think the value of cards are based on PSA pop reports.

Isn't it true that all "commons" are equal in value depending on the series in the SMR values?

I do not think this will change anytime soon.

Jami

lostdart58 · February 20, 2006 11:38AM

Cannot figure why my post did not show up..........(post #719)

So I will try it again.....

Bill,

Glad to see you here in our thread...........

As far as SMR values go...........I do not think that PSA bases their common values on pop reports........I believe that all "commons" in a particular series have the same value...........

We all know that some commons are harder to get then others...........it ain't gonna change any time soon.................

we who collect know better.......

softparade · February 20, 2006 11:46AM

<< <i>I don't know what is going on at 4SC, but had a package "lost in the mail" and I won a PSA 10 from them that they said was a mislisting. Have you seen proof that they shipped the cards? >>

I don't like 4SC, I don't trust 4SC, they have tooooo many seller ID's that helps them blend into any level of a buyers wallet AND I have bought one to many LEMONS from the jacka$$es. 4SC SUCKS.

In my humble opinion anyway

lostdart58 · February 20, 2006 11:59AM

4SC has too many ID's and sometimes on a given night you can win items from more then one ID and there is no combined shipping...................................this is my only complaint with them.

I do have a lost package with them now.......$178 worth of cards I so desparately need for my set.........THANKFULLY their is insurance, ( as there is with EVERY item that they ship) and I will get my money back...........Their customer service and responces have been first rate.....

No complaints from this many time buyer...........

ArnyVee · February 20, 2006 9:30PM

I can tell you that with as many 'complaints' there are about 4SC, there are more 'praises' from me.

In particular, most of the cards that I've collected from my player set registry (and lots of commons cards for my sets) would not exist were it not for 4SC and their bulk submissions. Also, they will combine shipping for items under one ID even a week or two later. That's a big plus. Plus, they insure every package as well...another plus.

I've bought from them many a time and have never had a complaint!

ArnyVee · February 20, 2006 10:06PM

With an offline deal for three cards that I needed done, I am now 38 cards from having a complete '72 Topps Baseball set!

billpack · February 23, 2006 2:46AM

Hi Jami, About the SMR from PSA...just got the latest issue today.Singles from 1-658 are @ $10 for a PSA 8 and $45.00 for a PSA 9.They don't list #22,for example, so according to them it's suggested value is around $10 for an 8,$45.00 for a PSA 9.An 8 went for $136.00 just a month ago.
They don't even list a #582 which should be around $10 for an 8.Anybody want to sell me some of th0se for $10.00??Even the money cards..
a PSA 9 Ryan for $450.00...And many difficult cards that many of us have paid triple digits for are not listed for more than $10 for a PSA...
NO listings for PSA 10's...So this 1972 Topps guide is pretty useless.You would think a major company could or would produce a more meaningful 1972 Topps PSA graded guide.Question is...WHY does PSA continue to put out the same BS every month,and nobody seems to take issue with it???
I suppose it's Who cares?All of us rookie beginners get taken until we know better...By the way,I started a new ebay store for just 1972 Topps graded cards.Some of you might want to check it out.It's under BILL'S CLASSICS and 1972 TOPPS PSA CARDS on Ebay's 1972 site!!

NEW EBAY STORE****

beach64 · February 23, 2006 3:31AM

SMR is about as helpful as Beckett is or was. The best guide of all for me is following ebay sales. Average the cards out over a few months and you will weed out the low sales as well as the card that a person will bid any amount for their collection. You will also see a pattern on fellow collectors and what they are bidding on as well as sellers.

As far as the rest of SMR I am not sure I like the articles or not. It amazese me how many times a kid has collected high end sets that the normal working person cannot afford. It feels like a lifestyle of the rich and famous many times. (Hi I am Jimmy an 8 year old from Long Island that just replaced my 1952 PSA Mantle with a PSA 9. This completes by run of Topps Sets with Mantle. I have to go now because my neurosurgeon dad came home.)

smallstocks · February 24, 2006 2:56AM

Beach sounds like sour grapes to me. Oh yeah - I agree with you too!

joemaggio · February 26, 2006 12:51PM

I think you're making a mistake when you assume that the SMR is a "Price Guide." The SMR values are there so that you can determine the level of service required to have your card(s) graded and to calculate how much you need to pay for insurance on your return package. To treat the SMR like a price guide would be like Topps putting values on the new cards as they're released, which would really piss us all off!

As others have said, eBay sales represent the only true price guide in this market and unfortunately, they're way out of line because every single one of us seems willing to pay $150 for cards we wouldn't have given $2 for 10 years ago. I don't think Fred Kendall's stats have changed any in the past 25 years.

If we ever decide to sell these cards, we're guaranteed to lose money. Look at the Maury Wills IA and the Jerry Grote - those two were pushing $200 when I started building this set. Look at PSA 9 commons - $40-$50 each less than 2 years ago, $10-$20 now. It's my opinion that PSA-Graded cards become less rare every year - pop reports only move in one direction. Of course, that's only the supply side of the equation, but I think demand will wane too.

ArnyVee · February 26, 2006 8:34PM

It's about time we heard from Maggio!

Welcome to the boards Joe!

I think that SMR is viewed as a guide, but it's also an indicator of the market. It's called the Sports Market Report for a reason. Plus, the fact that there are up arrows and down arrows for cards means that there are some fluctuations of values to the cards. I'll be the first to admit that I haven't read the 'how to use this guide' portion of the SMR (if there's one), but if you see a card that consistently goes for double what your 'guide' states, then why not reflect an uptick in value for that card? I don't think that the Fred Kendall's and the Steve Dunning's in the world will have long term value, but a Hank Aaron IA card will never have a demand issue.

I personally would like to see some accurate adjustments (and this means dropping the prices as well based on supply vs demand) of the vintage stuff.

Darn....now I'm two pennies short.

1972 Topps Baseball - Official PSA Thread!

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