1972 Topps Baseball - Official PSA Thread!

ArnyVee

Good job on looking out for the newer collectors out there Jami!

I know that early on I wouldn't pay too much attention to the pics and I've learned the hard way. Picking up a couple of 80s stars with qualifiers when I first started on eBay taught me to take a look at the pics and even pop those cert #s in on the PSA site to double check the authenticity of some of those questionable or new sellers.

Things have been quiet on the '72 side for the past few weeks. Folks away for the Holidays? I'm still looking, but not too many that I need out there right now. But, I'll keep my eyes open!

beach64

I decided to stop collecting the 1972 set. Due to it's size and lack of interest from my son we have decided to move in other directions. The lot will be on EBAY soon but offers will be accepted until then. 273 cards. Overall grade a little below 8. Email me if interested at beach64@att.net
Thanks
Brian
Card Name Grade
215 ALEX JOHNSON 9
12 JOSE CARDENAL 8
15 WALT WILLIAMS 8
17 DAVE DUNCAN 8
24 TED FORD 8
26 ANDY ETCHEBARREN 8
28 72 TWINS ROOKIES 8
36 JERRY JOHNSON IA 8
52 HARMON KILLEBREW IA 8
58 ERNIE MCANALLY 8
59 FRED STANLEY 8
60 MANNY SANGUILLEN 8
66 RAY CORBIN 8
77 RON THEOBALD 8
78 STEVE ARLIN 8
81 MIKE HEDLUND 8
82 RON WOODS 8
83 DALTON JONES 8
89 N.L. HR LEADERS 8
91 N.L. E.R.A. LEADERS 8
100 FRANK ROBINSON 8
103 CHECKLIST #133-263 8
106 BREWERS TEAM 8
116 ED FARMER 8
119 MARTY PEREZ 8
122 LARRY BIITTNER 8
128 EDDIE WATT 8
129 CHARLIE FOX 8
131 JIM NETTLES 8
132 JOE MORGAN 8
134 CARL MORTON 8
137 DICK WILLIAMS 8 sold
140 PAT DOBSON 8
141 METS ROOKIES 8
142 CHRIS CHAMBLISS 8
145 DON KESSINGER 8
148 DICK BILLINGS 8
149 GARY NEIBAUER 8
152 GENE CLINES 8
153 RICK AUERBACH 8
154 TED SIMMONS 8
155 LARRY DIERKER 8
156 TWINS TEAM 8
158 JERRY KENNEY 8
159 JOHN BOCCABELLA 8
160 ANDY MESSERSMITH 8
162 BREWERS ROOKIES 8
163 TUG MCGRAW 8
164 TUG MCGRAW IA 8
165 CHRIS SPEIER 8
167 DERON JOHNSON 8
168 DERON JOHNSON IA 8
169 VIDA BLUE 8
171 DARRELL EVANS 8
173 CLAY KIRBY 8
177 PAUL SCHAAL 8
180 DOCK ELLIS IA 8
181 ED KRANEPOOL 8
183 BILL MELTON 8
186 RON BRYANT IA 8
188 FRANK LUCCHESI 8
190 DAVE GIUSTI 8
194 FRED NORMAN 8
196 MEL QUEEN 8
197 JOHNNY BRIGGS 8
202 SCIPIO SPINKS 8
203 RON BLOMBERG 8
204 TOMMY HELMS 8
205 DICK DRAGO 8
206 DAL MAXVILL 8
207 TOM EGAN 8
212 GRANT JACKSON 8
213 ANGELS ROOKIES 8
214 MIKE MCQUEEN 8
216 JOE NIEKRO 8
218 EDDIE KASKO 8
220 JIM PERRY 8
221 NL PLAYOFFS 8
227 WORLD SERIES GAME 5 8
229 WORLD SERIES GAME 7 8
232 GIANTS ROOKIES 8
234 RON TAYLOR 8
236 JIM MCGLOTHLIN 8
238 LERON LEE 8
242 DON MINCHER 8
243 FRANK LINZY 8
248 TOM BRADLEY 8
251 CHECKLIST #264-394 8
252 KEN REYNOLDS 8
253 SANDY ALOMAR 8
255 JIM LONBORG 8
259 SPARKY LYLE 8
261 STEVE MINGORI 8
262 PADRES TEAM 8
266 BOBBY BOLIN 8
269 DON HAHN 8
271 KEN RUDOLPH 8
273 BOBBY FLOYD 8
274 AL SEVERINSEN 8
275 CESAR TOVAR 8
278 DENNIS HIGGINS 8
279 LARRY BROWN 8
280 WILLIE MCCOVEY 8
281 BILL PARSONS 8
282 ASTROS TEAM 8
284 IKE BROWN 8
285 GAYLORD PERRY 8 sold
289 SYD OBRIEN 8
290 SONNY SIEBERT 8
291 HAL MCRAE 8
294 DANNY FRISELLA IA 8
302 GEORGE MITTERWALD IA 8
305 KEN BOSWELL 8
307 STEVE RENKO 8
311 CLAY CARROLL 8
316 CARDINALS ROOKIES 8
318 SONNY JACKSON 8
321 JOE LAHOUD 8
323 EARL WEAVER 8
324 MIKE RYAN 8
325 MEL STOTTLEMYRE 8
326 PAT KELLY 8
327 STEVE STONE 8
329 ROY FOSTER 8
331 STAN SWANSON 8
333 STEVE BARBER 8
334 RANGERS ROOKIES 8
335 BILL HANDS 8
337 MIKE KILKENNY 8
338 BOB GRICH 8
339 RON COOK 8
341 JOE TORRE 8
344 DAVE MCNALLY 8
345 RICK WISE 8
346 JIM FREGOSI 8
351 BRAVES ROOKIES 8
354 TOM MURPHY 8
355 BOB WATSON 8
357 WOODIE FRYMAN 8
361 MIKE ANDREWS 8
363 RON KLIMKOWSKI 8
365 DICK BOSMAN 8
367 RON PERRANOSKI 8
368 DANNY THOMPSON 8
370 DON BUFORD 8
371 DENNY LEMASTER 8
373 JOHN MAYBERRY 8
374 JACK HEIDEMANN 8
375 REGGIE CLEVELAND 8
378 CHECKLIST #395-525 8
380 EARL WILLIAMS 8
381 WHITE SOX TEAM 8
387 HORACE CLARKE 8
388 CHARLIE WILLIAMS 8
389 BILL RIGNEY 8
390 WILLIE DAVIS 8
391 KEN SANDERS 8
392 PIRATE ROOKIES 8
393 CURT MOTTON 8
394 KEN FORSCH 8
399 MILT WILCOX 8
401 JIM NASH 8
404 JEFF TORBORG 8
407 CHUCK TAYLOR 8
410 FERGIE JENKINS 8
418 TOM SHOPAY 8
419 JIM SPENCER 8
446 TOM SEAVER IA 8
447 WILLIE STARGELL 8
452 ED HERRMANN 8
464 JIM ROLAND 8
468 RICHIE SCHEINBLUM 8
472 PHIL GAGLIANO 8
476 LEE RICHARD 8
477 TOM PHOEBUS 8
478 CHECKLIST #526-656 8
479 DON SHAW 8
481 BILLY CONIGLIARO 8
486 JOHN LOWENSTEIN 8
488 MIKE NAGY 8
497 JIM PERRY 8
498 BROOKS ROBINSON 8
500 JOE TORRE 8
502 JACKIE HERNANDEZ 8
503 GARY PETERS 8
506 INDIANS ROOKIES 8
509 DON MCMAHON 8
511 TONY TAYLOR 8
526 BOB BAILEY 8
531 FREDDIE PATEK 8
541 ROGER REPOZ 8
543 DUANE JOSEPHSON 8
544 TED MARTINEZ 8
545 WAYNE GRANGER 8
548 FRANK REBERGER 8
549 DAVE MAY 8
551 OLLIE BROWN 8
558 JOHN ODOM IA 8
561 LEO CARDENAS 8
562 LEO CARDENAS IA 8
566 REGGIE SMITH IA 8
568 JUAN MARICHAL IA 8
569 ED KIRKPATRICK 8
571 NATE COLBERT 8
574 FRITZ PETERSON IA 8
575 AL OLIVER 8
576 LEO DUROCHER 8
577 MIKE PAUL 8
578 BILLY GRABARKEWITZ 8
581 WADE BLASINGAME 8
583 DAROLD KNOWLES 8
584 JERRY MCNERTNEY 8
587 BILLY WILSON 8
588 JIM HOLT 8
589 HAL LANIER 8
592 LEW KRAUSSE 8
597 JIM MAGNUSON 8
599 BILLY CHAMPION 8
601 GEORGE STONE 8
602 DAVE BRISTOL 8
603 JIM RAY 8
605 NELSON BRILES 8
606 LUIS MELENDEZ 8
607 FRANK DUFFY 8
609 TOM GRIEVE 8
610 BILL STONEMAN 8
613 MIKE FERRARO 8
614 TED UHLAENDER 8
615 STEVE HARGAN 8
617 ROYALS TEAM 8
618 RICH ROBERTSON 8
624 MINOR LEAGUE PLAYER 8
626 BABE RUTH AWARD 8
628 TERRY CROWLEY 8
629 PAUL DOYLE 8
630 RICH HEBNER 8
633 JACK HIATT 8
637 PRESTON GOMEZ 8
640 JOE COLEMAN 8
642 DENNY RIDDLEBERGER 8
643 RUSS GIBSON 8
644 BERNIE ALLEN 8
648 JIM LYTTLE 8
649 PETE RICHERT 8
654 HORACIO PINA 8
676 DANNY CATER 8
677 IVAN MURRELL 8
680 DAVE JOHNSON 8
691 CURT BLEFARY 8
696 ROD CAREW IA 8 sold
703 DOUG GRIFFIN 8
704 DOUG GRIFFIN IA 8
705 PAT CORRALES 8
711 BOBBY BONDS 8
712 BOBBY BONDS IA 8
718 DEL RICE 8
739 DON MASON 8
753 DENNY MCLAIN TR 8
769 JACK AKER 8
774 LUIS ALVARADO 8
13 JOE GRZENDA 7
65 CESAR CEDENO 7
201 PHIL ROOF 7
314 LUIS APARICIO IA 7
315 PAUL SPLITTORFF 7
328 RED SOX TEAM 7
352 DAVE LAROCHE 7
366 JIMMY ROSARIO 7
386 JIM COLBORN 7
455 TOMMY HARPER 7
490 DAVE MCNALLY 7
505 MIKE MARSHALL 7
552 OLLIE BROWN IA 7
Thanks for looking
Brian

ArnyVee

Sorry to hear you leaving us '72ers, but I'd be interested in the three following cards....

137 D.Williams 8
497 J.Perry 8
696 R.Carew 8

....what would you want for these three?

lostdart58

I had planned on taking advantage of the .10 cent ebay listing day and put up about 2 dozen dups I had to sell.............I am glad that I didn't ...........................checking the 72 Topps PSA shows a LARGE glut of cards added today.....This is the most BY FAR of 72 PSA cards I have seen at one time on Ebay (over 625 at last count).

The bad news is that a third of them are way over priced and a third are PSA 7 or worse............The last third are 8s and a few 9s with decent starting prices......any newbies out there can probably find some good deals on PSA 8 cards.

The bad news for me is that there is only one card of the 300 plus added today that I need for my set...........( and it happens to be the grand daddy of 72 Topps!!! ).....

ArnyVee

Are you referring to the Aaron IA as the 'Grand Daddy'? If so, you probably noticed one of the 'Uncles' with the Schaal being out there too!

lostdart58

Yes I had noticed the Schaal....(and had put in an initial bid on it..)........it and three other cards i need for my set end tomorrow.....

...and yes I was referring to the Aaron IA, which seems to be the most expensive card to add to our set....

Early this year in February I let one end at $142, being unaware of how tough and expensive the card would be.

lostdart58

I bit the bullitt and picked up The Schaal IA, Harrelson BH, Piniella BH and Hamm cards today..........over paid on the Piniella but reasonably happy with the costs of the other three...............................

...................that leaves 19 cards to go.......

ArnyVee

Wow, congrats Jami! $90 for the Schaal is a steal!

You are heading down the home stretch now!

I picked up the #92 League Leaders card, #137 D.Williams, #239 T.Timmerman, #497 J.Perry BH & #696 R.Carew IA in the last few days. That puts me at about 52 cards remaining if I've calculated correctly.

mnstortuga

Good morning Mr. ArnyVee, Mike the nubie here. I have the Yankee and Indian Team cards in PSA 8 available if you need. Bought a nice raw lot on the bay last year and had a few slabbed.

lowstartmick

90 bucks for a Schaal ia....two months ago that card was going for nearly twice that ! Nice pick -up.

BarkusD

Jami did me some favors helping me locate some of the last few for my set so I laid off the low pops he has been buying. The demand is there. I will be bidding on the next one.

beach64

In case anyone needs a huge group of cards
260 card 1972 topps lot
Starting bid is 1000 so I am sure it will be a deal for someone.

Thanks
Brian

lowstartmick

<< <i>Jami did me some favors helping me locate some of the last few for my set so I laid off the low pops he has been buying. The demand is there. I will be bidding on the next one. >>



I won't.......

ArnyVee

Hey mnstortuga....welcome to the boards and to the '72 thread!

I noticed your '56 thread and that's a beautiful set that I, one day, will try and put together. For now, I'm working on the '57, '72, '75 Mini, '84 Donruss and a few others

I believe that I have the Yankees and Indians team cards already, but I appreciate the offer! Do you have any other '72s?

mnstortuga

Mr. Arnee- Thank you and all the board members for a kind intro. I have other graded 72's but only the Carew in 8 or >. Also have some HOF'ers in 5 to 7 grades. I do have a huge amount of NM-NMMT raw in 72 and 75 mini. I was able to purchase a 375 card lot of mini's from a guy on the Beckett board yesterday that look NMMT and centered for the most part. I also bought a sealed pack of mini's last week and cracked it...Most were O/C but the Carlton was nice. Have you purchased any packs to open?

My goal next week is to inventory the 72 and 75's!

lostdart58

I see we have a new player to join our 72 ranks as a new set has been added which debuted at #20 on the current list.............

.....if the newbie is out there and reads this, drop a note and say hello....

tony1844

could not stand the 666 now it looks better.

ArnyVee

LOL....thanks.

beach64

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Thanks
Brian

imafishinnut

I guess I finally made the leap into starting this set by purchasing about 10 PSA 8s from Barnett Cards. I told myself that I wasn't going to start another monster set for a long while after completing my 1971 set; however, this set just kept calling me. LOL. It is my second favorite set from the 70s after the 1971 set. I will be building the set in PSA 8 with a spattering of low priced PSA 9s. For the time being, I will only be bottom-feeding. Once I receive the cards, you will find my set under "Baseball Nut's Set".

Mike

ArnyVee

Welcome aboard Mike!

Good to have a new member of the '72ers!

I've got a few '72s in PSA 8 in my eBay store. If you'd like to, I can make you a deal on those. Just let me know which ones you are interested in. Always willing to help a fellow collector get a good head start!

BarkusD

Mike,
I have about 70% of the set listed on my website www.southfloridasportscards.com with scans. I am happy to provide a volume discount for a purchase of 10 cards or more.

David

lostdart58

Welcome Mike,

Anything you need to know about the 72 set you can find out here.

There are always plenty of PSA 8s up for sale on EBAY......75% of the commons you should be able to get for $5 or $6 ....if you do not win a card today, there will be another one of the same around later in the week.

If you can get access to recent pop reports, do...so you can get a feel for the tough commons...tough commons can run from $50 - $90

Most of the star cards are readily available, so get a feel for the prices so you do not overpay.

Good luck................and remember (even compared to the 71 set)........ITS A HUGE FRIGGIN' SET!!


Jami

lostdart58

Far from the best Ryan PSA 9 I have seen..............matter of fact it is just awful!!

Bad centering front and back plus there apears to be a nick on the top right corner on the back scan top right......

ArnyVee

You just shake your head sometimes wondering how some cards end up with 9s and other much stronger cards end up in 8 holders. This Ryan has 8 centering based on a quick look. Maybe some of those folks with the digital rulers can come out and check it out to put us at ease.

imafishinnut

Thanks to everyone for the welcome!

Jami -- The 1971 set was 752 cards plus I have bought several variations and PSA/DNA autographed cards for the set (Garvey RC, Maz, Niekro, etc.). I don't consider the extra 35 cards or so for the 1972 set a big deal after completing the 1971 monster... LOL For the time being, I am going to just set back and watch with regard to the star cards and just pick up commons. I do want to get a better feel for the price.

Arny and David -- I will keep an eye on your stores. As of right now, I have a cash flow problem and am only looking to pick up cards very cheap (around $5 for PSA 8 commons). However, I am sure we will do some business in the future when my cash flow situation improves.

Regards,
Mike

lowstartmick

<< <i>Far from the best Ryan PSA 9 I have seen..............matter of fact it is just awful!!

Bad centering front and back plus there apears to be a nick on the top right corner on the back scan top right...... >>



I wonder how many times it was resubmitted to get the 9.....

imafishinnut

I agree on the Ryan... There are several PSA 8s out there right now that look as good as that PSA 9!

Question from this newbie to you'll experts:

What are the known variations for the set? Can you'll please provide a list and let me know which of each variation is tougher to come by. I apologize if this question as already been answered in the thread somewhere.

Thanks,
Mike

lostdart58

There are four Cubs variations:

Pizzarro#18, Bonham #29, Beckert#45 and James #117. The rarer version of each show green under the C and S of Cubs on the front.

Checklist #604 has two different copyrights on back.....one left one right........both are just as common

Checklist #251, and 478 have either Large print on front or small print on front. The large print is so very subtlely different that it is almost indistinguishable from the small print.....,,,pSA has only graded a total of 3 Large print cards total for the 2 cards. ...it is likely they cannot distinguish the difference also.

BarkusD

The large/small print variations are not hard to distinguish if you know what to look for. The large print fills the box around the card numbers. There is space between the small print and the box. If you lay the two next to each other the difference is obvious.

imafishinnut

Thanks for your help on the variations. When I do a set, I like trying to do a master set with all of the variations. Are you aware of any variations that PSA does not official recognize? Variation recogniation is a weak point for PSA IMO.

Mike

lostdart58

As far as I know, there are no other variaitions..............

lostdart58

My god.........our thread has not had a post in over a week.........

There has been a HUGH amount of PSA 9s available on ebay................I have bid on EVERY one that I needed........not expecting to win many as most of the bids are small but all I will bid............if I win a handfull of the over 120 bids i have placed bid on i will be happy....if I were to win all of the bids I have placed i will be up the creek not being able to pay for them.


Where are the 72 collectors???? Are you out there?

ArnyVee

I noticed all of the 9s out there....tons of good stuff. Thank goodness that I'm only lookin' for the 8s.

Jami, if you upgrade any that I might need in 8, just drop me a line.

I can't believe that we didn't have a post in a week though....we have to keep an eye on this thread!

kennylow

When you guys buy your 9s, and have to sell your 8s, please let me know. I need to upgrade about 88 cards to PSA 8. I like buying in lots rather than a single card here and there, so if I can get 5 or more in one transaction, that would be the greatest.

kenny98z11@yahoo.com

lostdart58

...as expected I won just a handful ( 6 to be exact) of the almost 120 bids I had placed last night........I over paid on none.....

..A handfull of card ended last night at ridiculous prices. A #367 Ron Perranoski 1 of 22 in PSA 9 went for $100.99. Card # 232 Giants rookie card 1 of 27 in PSA 9 went for $67..................Same guy bought both cards....I think this man needs to do his homework and check pop reports.

The Felipe Alou PSA 9 ( 1 of 4) went for $360 plus . Eric Olander needed this card for his set.........I don't know if he was the winner.....
(edited to say: I did not recognize the ebay handle of the winner)

lostdart58

<< <i>When you guys buy your 9s, and have to sell your 8s, please let me know. I need to upgrade about 88 cards to PSA 8. I like buying in lots rather than a single card here and there, so if I can get 5 or more in one transaction, that would be the greatest.

kenny98z11@yahoo.com >>



Perhaps an idea of what cards you need would be helpful....???

kennylow

Yes, it would! Here are the cards I need in PSA 8.

22 40 44 50 94 144 150 151 178 182 185 226 228 230 239 241 245 256 292 293 296 300 340 385 408 433 434 436 439 440 442 443 445 448 463 465 467 469 470 483 487 492 496 501 504 509 515 518 519 520 540 556 567 572 576 595 600 619 646 665 666 667 669 681 683 694 695 696 697 698 702 706 708 710 720 722 723 734 737 740 747 753 755 756 757 761 763

I'm looking to pay ebay-ish prices.

lostdart58

Kenny,

Thanks for the list...I will keep you in mind. Currently I have one of the cards you need. (#483)

As, I am sure, you are aware 85-90% of the numbers in your list are either Hall 0f Famers or tough low pop commons. Commons such as # 22, 40, 178, 230, 292, 296, 385, 496, 708, 723, 757 regularly go for between $50 - $90. Between these cards and Hall-of-Famers you need, it will be tough to buy these cards more then one at a time from any particular buyer.....but you never know....


Jami

kennylow

You are right, it is going to get tougher as I need fewer cards. I should probably relax my need to buy in lots from this point forward. Email me at kenny98z11@yahoo.com when you have some cards to sell.

ArnyVee

Here are the numbers that I need....

40, 48, 113, 130, 150, 182, 228, 230, 292, 296, 300, 313, 320, 322, 377, 385, 408, 438, 457, 496, 518, 524, 528, 530, 532, 533, 567, 582, 620, 645, 655, 661, 665, 666, 670, 672, 673, 674, 682, 699, 702, 706, 708, 720, 723, 734, 752, 757, 760, 761, 787

Fifty one more to go to complete the set!

If anyone has these out there, please post or drop me a PM.

marz

Help! Me!

http://www.psacard.com/set_registry/display_cards.chtml?rsetid=12301&alltime=no&rank=35&tied=0&requesttimeout=9999


I have just enough money to buy a dozen or so if someone has some to sell me I need in 9 holders~

I got my first PSA 10 last night!

lostdart58

After a conversation with Joe Maggio today a mystery has been solved. Joe says he never sold or put his set up on Ebay for sale.....After I showed him the Ebay listing, Joe contacted the seller: "I just talked to manontherock about this listing. He insists he had a 1972 set and that he was told when he bought it that it was # 10 on the registry. He says he must have linked to the wrong set and that he never looked at the cards."

It turned out that seller did indeed link to the wrong set......I have not concluded which set actually got sold.........

Whoever bought the set got a better set then the one described (100% complete with no PSA 7s)......The actual seller of the set probably got cheated out of a few dollars..........since the buyer and all others who looked at the set thought they were getting a non complete set with a dozen of the tough numbers in PSA 7s.


Interesting ey????

lowstartmick

I just read an Email from Joe. Interesting to say the least. Remind me not to consign to "man on the rock"

lostdart58

<< <i>

I have just enough money to buy a dozen or so if someone has some to sell me I need in 9 holders~

I got my first PSA 10 last night!

>>



Congrats on the 10.........

lostdart58

I emailed the seller of this checklist card to tell him that he had the two varieties confused and that the Larger print was actually the rarer of the two.

Here was his response: "I've been collecting for 35 years, and this one was tougher for me to obtain."

I emailed him back quoteing the PSA pop reports.......only 2 graded Large letter variations compared to 163 graded Small letter variations included 69 PSA 9s. This card has the second most PSA 9s in the whole darn set.

Here was his response : "PSA population reports aren't the only source of determining whether a card is rare or not. In fact it completey skews the picture because it is only a SINGLE view (one company) that only represents a SINGLE form of the populus (a graded card). If you did all your analysis based on a single group, your results would not be considered legit in any sense of the imagination."


(shrugging my shoulders)

marz

you are a nice guy and good for the hobby~

ArnyVee

Down to the final 50 needed now as W.Garrett has been now added to my set.

ArnyVee

2 more added....down to the final 48 left to finish the set!

FB

Jami,

While I agree that the PSA Pop reports are not always accurate, especially around variations - his response was pretty much the standrad defense for the uninformed. You can't argue with logic like his...

Frank