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  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,197 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm gonna record that Red Team and watch that later tonight...
    🟥🏈📺🥤👍

    Gettin' ready to fire up the grill...

    🔥♨️🥩👍

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    through 6 games Mahomes has thrown 2 more picks than touches and the Chiefs are undefeated

    congrats if you had that on your NFL bingo card

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    For him things just went from bad to worse.

    Bad? I heard the browns will be paying him 98 Million $ guaranteed for the next 2 years.........

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is the first time I have got to see Aaron Rodgers play this year - he is an average QB at best - Russel Wilson is easily out playing him tonight.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Crickets from all the talking heads on TV picking Miami or New York to win the AFC East leading up to the season.
    Josh Allen the turnover machine
    12 TD’s Zero interceptions

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • Another tough loss for the Jets in Pittsburgh last night, Aaron Rodgers didn't look too well at the post-game press conference, a real shame.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    GBs linebacker play was terrible against the Texans and both of Loves interceptions were ugly throws. Krafts TD catch was impressive. Now all the talk about the entire NFC north making the playoffs begins in those markets.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    through 6 games Mahomes has thrown 2 more picks than touches and the Chiefs are undefeated

    congrats if you had that on your NFL bingo card

    I have noticed that as well. He did not play well last year either. not sure what is up with him...

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    through 6 games Mahomes has thrown 2 more picks than touches and the Chiefs are undefeated

    congrats if you had that on your NFL bingo card

    I have noticed that as well. He did not play well last year either. not sure what is up with him...

    Still…. Yesterday his QBR was 80 compared to purdy’s 13.
    It is what it is…. he lost his best 2 receivers and ju ju got hurt yesterday so hardly played. When you have to throw even 1 pass to Skyy moore(which he dropped) you know you’re desperate for receivers.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mahomes had 2 picks yesterday…….. this was Rodgers 3rd pick of the night

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:
    Mahomes had 2 picks yesterday…….. this was Rodgers 3rd pick of the night

    I am starting to think AROD is washed.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:

    @craig44 said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    through 6 games Mahomes has thrown 2 more picks than touches and the Chiefs are undefeated

    congrats if you had that on your NFL bingo card

    I have noticed that as well. He did not play well last year either. not sure what is up with him...

    Still…. Yesterday his QBR was 80 compared to purdy’s 13.
    It is what it is…. he lost his best 2 receivers and ju ju got hurt yesterday so hardly played. When you have to throw even 1 pass to Skyy moore(which he dropped) you know you’re desperate for receivers.

    I dont think too much of QBR. if you look at his game log, in the game against NO 2 weeks ago, Pat had a higher com. %, more yards, fewer int. and a better yards/attempt. Every stat I looked at was better against NO than yesterday. but, yesterday he has a QBR of 80.4 and against NO, it was only 68.7 it doesnt make sense to me. he had a much better game against NO.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin, forgot to add that I agree, Purdy is clearly not in the same class with Patrick

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • Yeah so, Aaron Rodgers got caught on camera eating his boogers on the sidelines last night, the man belongs in a zoo. It was his third pick of the game.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,102 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    @Darin, forgot to add that I agree, Purdy is clearly not in the same class with Patrick

    Scrambling edge to Pat.

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,102 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Neanderthal said:
    Yeah so, Aaron Rodgers got caught on camera eating his boogers on the sidelines last night, the man belongs in a zoo. It was his third pick of the game.

    Maybe he has discovered some new source of protein.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hopefully just a weird camera angle - pretty damn gross.................

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rodgers and the Jets look horrible, again I will call myself out for thinking they were going to seriously be a force in the AFC East.

    That team is just a disaster and Rodgers is a has been

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 21, 2024 12:55PM

    Brandon Aiyuk out for the year

    Brock Purdy is quarterbacking like the last guy drafted would

    still no CMC

    the Niners are cooked

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,102 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Neanderthal said:
    Yeah so, Aaron Rodgers got caught on camera eating his boogers on the sidelines last night, the man belongs in a zoo. It was his third pick of the game.

    Why are so many people "picking" on me.😀

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:

    @craig44 said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    through 6 games Mahomes has thrown 2 more picks than touches and the Chiefs are undefeated

    congrats if you had that on your NFL bingo card

    I have noticed that as well. He did not play well last year either. not sure what is up with him...

    Still…. Yesterday his QBR was 80 compared to purdy’s 13.
    It is what it is…. he lost his best 2 receivers and ju ju got hurt yesterday so hardly played. When you have to throw even 1 pass to Skyy moore(which he dropped) you know you’re desperate for receivers.

    SF fans have to face the facts. Purdy is Jimmy G 2.0. Without a stacked roster around him he’s just another 7th round draft pick

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:
    Crickets from all the talking heads on TV picking Miami or New York to win the AFC East leading up to the season.
    Josh Allen the turnover machine
    12 TD’s Zero interceptions

    I'm starting to fall for the Bills again, hope they don't prove me wrong if they face KC in the playoffs

    Looking good Joe

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Neanderthal said:
    Yeah so, Aaron Rodgers got caught on camera eating his boogers on the sidelines last night, the man belongs in a zoo. It was his third pick of the game.

    😂🤣😂
    https://youtube.com/shorts/fHnVqgHZeUs?si=HZ__8-RnSr6UtTU_

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    @Darin said:

    @craig44 said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    through 6 games Mahomes has thrown 2 more picks than touches and the Chiefs are undefeated

    congrats if you had that on your NFL bingo card

    I have noticed that as well. He did not play well last year either. not sure what is up with him...

    Still…. Yesterday his QBR was 80 compared to purdy’s 13.
    It is what it is…. he lost his best 2 receivers and ju ju got hurt yesterday so hardly played. When you have to throw even 1 pass to Skyy moore(which he dropped) you know you’re desperate for receivers.

    I dont think too much of QBR. if you look at his game log, in the game against NO 2 weeks ago, Pat had a higher com. %, more yards, fewer int. and a better yards/attempt. Every stat I looked at was better against NO than yesterday. but, yesterday he has a QBR of 80.4 and against NO, it was only 68.7 it doesnt make sense to me. he had a much better game against NO.

    QBR takes way more into consideration than just attempts, completions, TDs, INTs. The formula has not been made public but includes:

    Passing Performance: This includes traditional passing statistics like completions, yards, touchdowns, and interceptions. However, QBR also factors in the difficulty of the throw, the quality of the defense, and whether the throw was under pressure.

    Rushing Contributions: Unlike traditional passer ratings, QBR accounts for a QB's rushing plays. This includes yards gained, touchdowns, and even the context of the rush (e.g., scrambling for a first down on third-and-long).

    Sack Avoidance: QBR penalizes QBs for taking sacks, which are often considered a QB's fault unless they are unavoidable due to poor offensive line play.

    So it's not necessarily an easy comparison between games.

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Over their last four games, the Lions have more offensive touchdowns (18) than incompletions (16). First time that's happened since the merger.

  • You see, that's what I love about Booger Rodgers, year after year the man is a Gold mine of comedy and entertainment, he never lets you down, this nose picking scandal is a prime example of that. You could make a living selling T-shirts alone.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @craig44 said:

    @Darin said:

    @craig44 said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    through 6 games Mahomes has thrown 2 more picks than touches and the Chiefs are undefeated

    congrats if you had that on your NFL bingo card

    I have noticed that as well. He did not play well last year either. not sure what is up with him...

    Still…. Yesterday his QBR was 80 compared to purdy’s 13.
    It is what it is…. he lost his best 2 receivers and ju ju got hurt yesterday so hardly played. When you have to throw even 1 pass to Skyy moore(which he dropped) you know you’re desperate for receivers.

    I dont think too much of QBR. if you look at his game log, in the game against NO 2 weeks ago, Pat had a higher com. %, more yards, fewer int. and a better yards/attempt. Every stat I looked at was better against NO than yesterday. but, yesterday he has a QBR of 80.4 and against NO, it was only 68.7 it doesnt make sense to me. he had a much better game against NO.

    QBR takes way more into consideration than just attempts, completions, TDs, INTs. The formula has not been made public but includes:

    Passing Performance: This includes traditional passing statistics like completions, yards, touchdowns, and interceptions. However, QBR also factors in the difficulty of the throw, the quality of the defense, and whether the throw was under pressure.

    Rushing Contributions: Unlike traditional passer ratings, QBR accounts for a QB's rushing plays. This includes yards gained, touchdowns, and even the context of the rush (e.g., scrambling for a first down on third-and-long).

    Sack Avoidance: QBR penalizes QBs for taking sacks, which are often considered a QB's fault unless they are unavoidable due to poor offensive line play.

    So it's not necessarily an easy comparison between games.

    any stat that they will not release the formula for is fagazi for me. Like WAR having more than one formula.
    I personally dont consider, nor have I ever considered a QB's rushing performance part of their passing performance. until 15 minutes ago, I dont think anyone ever has before.

    I also dont see how there can be an objective standard for things like difficulty of throws, or exactly how much pressure the throw was under. some pressure may be extreme, some a little less, a lot less. and who is deciding?

    too much left to conjecture.

    I guess that seals the deal for QBR for me

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hate to say it but the Ravens are better than anyone expected. Henry has made this team almost unbeatable at this point in the season. Jackson has evolved into a legitimate QB.
    Who thought Henry would have this much impact on the team.
    This offense can mask the holes in the defense by just out scoring everyone

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sometimes I miss DD and his contributions to Aaron Rodgers crazy life.

    he would be having a field day right now with Boogie Rodgers.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    @Tabe said:

    @craig44 said:

    @Darin said:

    @craig44 said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    through 6 games Mahomes has thrown 2 more picks than touches and the Chiefs are undefeated

    congrats if you had that on your NFL bingo card

    I have noticed that as well. He did not play well last year either. not sure what is up with him...

    Still…. Yesterday his QBR was 80 compared to purdy’s 13.
    It is what it is…. he lost his best 2 receivers and ju ju got hurt yesterday so hardly played. When you have to throw even 1 pass to Skyy moore(which he dropped) you know you’re desperate for receivers.

    I dont think too much of QBR. if you look at his game log, in the game against NO 2 weeks ago, Pat had a higher com. %, more yards, fewer int. and a better yards/attempt. Every stat I looked at was better against NO than yesterday. but, yesterday he has a QBR of 80.4 and against NO, it was only 68.7 it doesnt make sense to me. he had a much better game against NO.

    QBR takes way more into consideration than just attempts, completions, TDs, INTs. The formula has not been made public but includes:

    Passing Performance: This includes traditional passing statistics like completions, yards, touchdowns, and interceptions. However, QBR also factors in the difficulty of the throw, the quality of the defense, and whether the throw was under pressure.

    Rushing Contributions: Unlike traditional passer ratings, QBR accounts for a QB's rushing plays. This includes yards gained, touchdowns, and even the context of the rush (e.g., scrambling for a first down on third-and-long).

    Sack Avoidance: QBR penalizes QBs for taking sacks, which are often considered a QB's fault unless they are unavoidable due to poor offensive line play.

    So it's not necessarily an easy comparison between games.

    any stat that they will not release the formula for is fagazi for me. Like WAR having more than one formula.
    I personally dont consider, nor have I ever considered a QB's rushing performance part of their passing performance. until 15 minutes ago, I dont think anyone ever has before.

    I also dont see how there can be an objective standard for things like difficulty of throws, or exactly how much pressure the throw was under. some pressure may be extreme, some a little less, a lot less. and who is deciding?

    too much left to conjecture.

    I guess that seals the deal for QBR for me

    Wins above replacement is a concept that has been implemented in different ways. Like many statistics, WAR could be explained better.

    I don’t think it’s appropriate here to compare it to QBR as QBR is a proprietary statistic. That could mean it’s really good or that it’s some kind of bad. I would need John Madden to explain it to me.

    I’m curious whether, when you look at the end of a season and consider the quality of a particular QBs aggregate rating, you agree or disagree more than not with either the rank order or scaled rating in general. Which QBs appear to be poorly measured by QBR?

    It could be total BS or maybe it’s insightful. I don’t know. When you said fugazi it reminded me of the song “waiting room” also.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    Sometimes I miss DD and his contributions to Aaron Rodgers crazy life.

    he would be having a field day right now with Boogie Rodgers.

    Oh he is back under the name Neanderthal and crushing Rodgers stuff.

    His last quitting episode lasted about a couple weeks I think but rest assured he is back for now

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bgr said:

    @craig44 said:

    @Tabe said:

    @craig44 said:

    @Darin said:

    @craig44 said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    through 6 games Mahomes has thrown 2 more picks than touches and the Chiefs are undefeated

    congrats if you had that on your NFL bingo card

    I have noticed that as well. He did not play well last year either. not sure what is up with him...

    Still…. Yesterday his QBR was 80 compared to purdy’s 13.
    It is what it is…. he lost his best 2 receivers and ju ju got hurt yesterday so hardly played. When you have to throw even 1 pass to Skyy moore(which he dropped) you know you’re desperate for receivers.

    I dont think too much of QBR. if you look at his game log, in the game against NO 2 weeks ago, Pat had a higher com. %, more yards, fewer int. and a better yards/attempt. Every stat I looked at was better against NO than yesterday. but, yesterday he has a QBR of 80.4 and against NO, it was only 68.7 it doesnt make sense to me. he had a much better game against NO.

    QBR takes way more into consideration than just attempts, completions, TDs, INTs. The formula has not been made public but includes:

    Passing Performance: This includes traditional passing statistics like completions, yards, touchdowns, and interceptions. However, QBR also factors in the difficulty of the throw, the quality of the defense, and whether the throw was under pressure.

    Rushing Contributions: Unlike traditional passer ratings, QBR accounts for a QB's rushing plays. This includes yards gained, touchdowns, and even the context of the rush (e.g., scrambling for a first down on third-and-long).

    Sack Avoidance: QBR penalizes QBs for taking sacks, which are often considered a QB's fault unless they are unavoidable due to poor offensive line play.

    So it's not necessarily an easy comparison between games.

    any stat that they will not release the formula for is fagazi for me. Like WAR having more than one formula.
    I personally dont consider, nor have I ever considered a QB's rushing performance part of their passing performance. until 15 minutes ago, I dont think anyone ever has before.

    I also dont see how there can be an objective standard for things like difficulty of throws, or exactly how much pressure the throw was under. some pressure may be extreme, some a little less, a lot less. and who is deciding?

    too much left to conjecture.

    I guess that seals the deal for QBR for me

    Wins above replacement is a concept that has been implemented in different ways. Like many statistics, WAR could be explained better.

    I don’t think it’s appropriate here to compare it to QBR as QBR is a proprietary statistic. That could mean it’s really good or that it’s some kind of bad. I would need John Madden to explain it to me.

    I’m curious whether, when you look at the end of a season and consider the quality of a particular QBs aggregate rating, you agree or disagree more than not with either the rank order or scaled rating in general. Which QBs appear to be poorly measured by QBR?

    It could be total BS or maybe it’s insightful. I don’t know. When you said fugazi it reminded me of the song “waiting room” also.

    call me old school, but I am just fine with passer rating. seems to measure qb passing stats sufficiently. When I found out that QB rushing stats were included in QBR it definitely lost it for me. there is also too much subjectivity included if we are trying to judge how difficult of a throw or exactly how much pressure a QB is under and whos fault it is that a sack was not avoided.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @craig44 said:
    Sometimes I miss DD and his contributions to Aaron Rodgers crazy life.

    he would be having a field day right now with Boogie Rodgers.

    Oh he is back under the name Neanderthal and crushing Rodgers stuff.

    His last quitting episode lasted about a couple weeks I think but rest assured he is back for now

    good to know. how did you find out? I must be out of the loop

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:
    Hate to say it but the Ravens are better than anyone expected. Henry has made this team almost unbeatable at this point in the season. Jackson has evolved into a legitimate QB.
    Who thought Henry would have this much impact on the team.
    This offense can mask the holes in the defense by just out scoring everyone

    I agree. I figured the Raven would eventually jell together. That offense will be an absolute menace come playoff time.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @craig44 said:
    Sometimes I miss DD and his contributions to Aaron Rodgers crazy life.

    he would be having a field day right now with Boogie Rodgers.

    Oh he is back under the name Neanderthal and crushing Rodgers stuff.

    His last quitting episode lasted about a couple weeks I think but rest assured he is back for now

    good to know. how did you find out? I must be out of the loop

    Think he outer himself on purpose, no biggie

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cowboys can't catch a break - :D

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Cleveland Browns have signed QB Bailey Zappe to the active roster off Kansas City's practice squad.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    call me old school, but I am just fine with passer rating. seems to measure qb passing stats sufficiently. When I found out that QB rushing stats were included in QBR it definitely lost it for me. there is also too much subjectivity included if we are trying to judge how difficult of a throw or exactly how much pressure a QB is under and whos fault it is that a sack was not avoided.

    WAR is a trash stat in baseball. A lot of these stats the media always reference claim to accurately account for everything which they just simply dont. They try to account for things they just simply cant. The more things a stat tries to account for the worse it gets at it. QBR even penalizes QBs if they get sacked which more often than not if the fault of the offensive line. If you fumble getting blindsided on a sack you get penalized too

    No single stat should ever be the end all be all anyways, but but its getting a bit ridiculous when stats are trying to say they can account for the pass rush against a QB on an October night with the wind blowing at their back and the WR having having gotten a good night sleep with perfect cleats lol.

    QBR is an okay stat but certainly doesnt account for everything like it can be made out to be

    Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    @craig44 said:
    call me old school, but I am just fine with passer rating. seems to measure qb passing stats sufficiently. When I found out that QB rushing stats were included in QBR it definitely lost it for me. there is also too much subjectivity included if we are trying to judge how difficult of a throw or exactly how much pressure a QB is under and whos fault it is that a sack was not avoided.

    WAR is a trash stat in baseball. A lot of these stats the media always reference claim to accurately account for everything which they just simply dont. They try to account for things they just simply cant. The more things a stat tries to account for the worse it gets at it. QBR even penalizes QBs if they get sacked which more often than not if the fault of the offensive line. If you fumble getting blindsided on a sack you get penalized too

    No single stat should ever be the end all be all anyways, but but its getting a bit ridiculous when stats are trying to say they can account for the pass rush against a QB on an October night with the wind blowing at their back and the WR having having gotten a good night sleep with perfect cleats lol.

    QBR is an okay stat but certainly doesnt account for everything like it can be made out to be

    Craig made a good point about how opaque QBR is. Why do you think it’s an okay statistic?

    I don’t understand your wrath towards WAR. It’s rarely used as it was intended and I’ve not heard you levy a legitimate argument against the purpose it was designed for. I agree that it requires a detailed explanation but I can’t really find a flaw in the concept.

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    I personally dont consider, nor have I ever considered a QB's rushing performance part of their passing performance. until 15 minutes ago, I dont think anyone ever has before.

    QBR isn't a measure of their passing performance. It's a measure of quarterback performance. Your complaint is like arguing defense isn't part of measuring how good a baseball position player is.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    a prime example of the difference between traditional and QBR (and why I favor the latter more) is Murray last night. he housed one from 44 yards out with his legs, so it's not surprising that his QBR > passer rating. A QB metric that doesn't include that play is sorely lacking imo, because that run was a big reason why AZ won the game

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    a prime example of the difference between traditional and QBR (and why I favor the latter more) is Murray last night. he housed one from 44 yards out with his legs, so it's not surprising that his QBR > passer rating. A QB metric that doesn't include that play is sorely lacking imo, because that run was a big reason why AZ won the game

    Its easy enough to separate passing and rushing in game. by a QB and combine it without something pretending to account for everything. Herbert was the better QB, the Chargers were just the worst team. Chargers couldnt run the ball and Herbert was still better.

    Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2024 11:49PM

    @Basebal21 said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    a prime example of the difference between traditional and QBR (and why I favor the latter more) is Murray last night. he housed one from 44 yards out with his legs, so it's not surprising that his QBR > passer rating. A QB metric that doesn't include that play is sorely lacking imo, because that run was a big reason why AZ won the game

    Its easy enough to separate passing and rushing in game. by a QB and combine it without something pretending to account for everything. Herbert was the better QB, the Chargers were just the worst team. Chargers couldnt run the ball and Herbert was still better.

    so now you're the ins and outs QBR computation expert. color me completely unsurprised.

    and yeah, Herbert was so much better that he couldn't find the end zone once against one of the worst defenses in the league that was besieged with injuries, settling for 5 field goals

    meanwhile, Murray didn't have that issue twice against a much, much more formidable D and those 8 extra points were the difference in the game

    that's why Herbert's QBR was 20 points lower despite all of the empty calories that get you all hot and bothered

    he wasnt better by any stretch

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,197 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    power rankings

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those bottom four categories could all be combined to describe the 2024 Pats.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice! 🥳

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So has Coach Reid explained to Mahomes that he needs to be throwing passes to the new receiver instead of breaking his knees?

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