@spotthedog said:
I'm a little worried. I ordered the 4 coin set. I got the email stating "order received". My card has not been pinged yet. When I go to mint site "order history", it shows I have the set on order, and is processing. When I touch the order number to see what I ordered at that price, it takes a few seconds, then goes back to all my orders, and doesn't show what I ordered.
That is what happens when you still have not received a confirmation email. I've noticed that after you receive a confirmation email, a page will load when you click on the order number.
Not true. I have not been able to access individual items in my order history for well over a year even after receiving order confirmation. In fact, every item in my order history still shows "processing". And, that doesn't change when I click on any of the orders.
@spotthedog said:
I'm a little worried. I ordered the 4 coin set. I got the email stating "order received". My card has not been pinged yet. When I go to mint site "order history", it shows I have the set on order, and is processing. When I touch the order number to see what I ordered at that price, it takes a few seconds, then goes back to all my orders, and doesn't show what I ordered.
That is what happens when you still have not received a confirmation email. I've noticed that after you receive a confirmation email, a page will load when you click on the order number.
Not true. I have not been able to access individual items in my order history for well over a year even after receiving order confirmation. In fact, every item in my order history still shows "processing". And, that doesn't change when I click on any of the orders.
You need to contact customer service at the mint your account has an error. Your internal and external e-mail address don't match. That is why all your orders show processing.
My email address hasn't changed in 27 years. It doesn't seem to cause a problem. They ship everything just fine.
I went through this last year with the mint when I wasn't getting the free shipping because all my orders were processing my external e-mail address (the one I login with) was correct. The internal e-mail the address associated with the mint profile had a typographical error. When the order status was updated it was never updating my account. When the error was corrected 5 years of orders went from Processing to Shipped with the correct shipping dates. I have received my free shipping without calling ever since.
Things ship correctly because your name and address is correct
@spotthedog said:
I'm a little worried. I ordered the 4 coin set. I got the email stating "order received". My card has not been pinged yet. When I go to mint site "order history", it shows I have the set on order, and is processing. When I touch the order number to see what I ordered at that price, it takes a few seconds, then goes back to all my orders, and doesn't show what I ordered.
That is what happens when you still have not received a confirmation email. I've noticed that after you receive a confirmation email, a page will load when you click on the order number.
Not true. I have not been able to access individual items in my order history for well over a year even after receiving order confirmation. In fact, every item in my order history still shows "processing". And, that doesn't change when I click on any of the orders.
@spotthedog said:
I'm a little worried. I ordered the 4 coin set. I got the email stating "order received". My card has not been pinged yet. When I go to mint site "order history", it shows I have the set on order, and is processing. When I touch the order number to see what I ordered at that price, it takes a few seconds, then goes back to all my orders, and doesn't show what I ordered.
That is what happens when you still have not received a confirmation email. I've noticed that after you receive a confirmation email, a page will load when you click on the order number.
Not true. I have not been able to access individual items in my order history for well over a year even after receiving order confirmation. In fact, every item in my order history still shows "processing". And, that doesn't change when I click on any of the orders.
You need to contact customer service at the mint your account has an error. Your internal and external e-mail address don't match. That is why all your orders show processing.
My email address hasn't changed in 27 years. It doesn't seem to cause a problem. They ship everything just fine.
I went through this last year with the mint when I wasn't getting the free shipping because all my orders were processing my external e-mail address (the one I login with) was correct. The internal e-mail the address associated with the mint profile had a typographical error. When the order status was updated it was never updating my account. When the error was corrected 5 years of orders went from Processing to Shipped with the correct shipping dates. I have received my free shipping without calling ever since.
Things ship correctly because your name and address is correct
Except I also get my free shipping. So, while this may have been your issue, I don't know that it is everyone's issue.
This "processing" error happened to me last year also. It rectified itself and now it's back.
I assume that over the next few days the window will become quite small.
I think you are right but I think the window will stay open for several weeks
I don't know. Maybe for the 1/10 and the 4 coin. The supply was pretty constrained on the others. I mean, as a individual offering, the 1/2 oz is about the same (1600) as the V75 AGE (1945). Those didn't stay consistently available for weeks. Same with the 1/4 oz at 2700. There are always a few cancellations/rejections early and the occasional return or something later. But I don't think there will consistently be much supply.
[And I say that even though I'm not a big believer in these.]
@Bullsitter said:
U.S. Mint, American Eagle 2020 Gold Proof Four-Coin Set is available, at least 99......that's 2020 (20EF).
I would almost guarantee that the next sales figures will see that the 2020 4 coin set sales will increase due to people ordering the wrong item
I nearly did just that this morning, clicking the top choice 4 coin set on the American Eagle program page shortly before 630 and not noticing it was the 2020 set (20EF). It was only a device/browser glitch at my end that prevented me from adding it to my cart and purchasing quickly. I went back and refreshed and still did not see (21EF) on the AE program page, had to click through from the 2021 product schedule.
So... how do the proof 2021 type 1 AGE mintages compare to previous years? I got the 1/4 Oz but do not see any value for flipping, unless your clueless and think these are rare... which they are not compared to previous year mintages. I am sure with the quick sell outs they will increase the type 2 mintages, making that even less attractive for flipping.
@dennis1219 said:
So... how do the proof 2021 type 1 AGE mintages compare to previous years? I got the 1/4 Oz but do not see any value for flipping, unless your clueless and think these are rare... which they are not compared to previous year mintages. I am sure with the quick sell outs they will increase the type 2 mintages, making that even less attractive for flipping.
The 2021 proof mintages will be the lowest produced, but proof AGEs have never really gained value over time.
@dennis1219 said:
So... how do the proof 2021 type 1 AGE mintages compare to previous years? I got the 1/4 Oz but do not see any value for flipping, unless your clueless and think these are rare... which they are not compared to previous year mintages. I am sure with the quick sell outs they will increase the type 2 mintages, making that even less attractive for flipping.
The 2021 proof mintages will be the lowest produced, but proof AGEs have never really gained value over time.
This!
But @dennis1219 you are conflating 2 different issues: flipping potential and long term value.
Flipping potential is all based on what the current price is. For example the 2021-W silver proof eagle is not rare and is unlikely to go up. But right now, I can buy them from the Mint for $73 and flip them for $100+ all day long. 2 years from now, it might be worth $60. But who cares? I'll be out.
Your 1/4 is currently flippable at $800 to $850. It may well be worth half that 6 months from now.
Following sales numbers Include Launch Day Only sales + Authorized Bulk Purchase Program Early sales:
2021 Type 1 1 oz. American Gold Eagle Max Mintage 4,500 Sold 4,453 or 99.0%
2021 Type 1 ½ oz. American Gold Eagle Max Mintage 1,600 Sold 1,573 or 98.3%
2021 Type 1 ¼ oz. American Gold Eagle Max Mintage 2,700 Sold 2,659 or 98.5%
2021 Type 1 1/10 oz. American Gold Eagle Max Mintage 8,000 Sold 7,775 or 97.2%
2021 Type 1 4 coin set American Gold Eagle Max Mintage 8,200 Sold 8.017 or 97.8%
Lots of mistakes in reporting the pricing from Coin World. Guess they were in a hurry.
In a matter of minutes on March 11, all five options for the Proof 2021-W American Eagle, Reverse of 1986 gold coins reached the “currently unavailable” stage, on the first day of sales.
“Currently unavailable” means product is not available now, but could be, should orders be canceled by the customer or if the Mint cancels an order because of payment issues, such as expired credit cards. The product resulting from such cancellations could go back into the ordering loop to fulfill demand.
The year’s first Proof American Eagle gold coins bear the legislated Family of Eagles reverse design executed by artist Miley Busiek, the original design introduced in 1986.
In mid-2021, as part of the Mint’s efforts to integrate anti-counterfeiting technology into the production process, the bureau will introduce a second type of Proof American Eagle gold coin, all exhibiting a new reverse design.
The newly implemented Authorized Bulk Purchase Program allowed the 18 participating dealers to place orders before March 11, each for a maximum of 45 of the four-coin sets and 25 of the single 1-ounce gold Proof coins.
Dealers qualifying for the ABPP have purchased $500,000 in U.S. Mint numismatic products for each of the last two years.
The prices for gold Proof coins purchased early included a 5 percent premium above the retail issue price, plus the cost of picking up the products March 8 at the Mint’s contracted order fulfillment outlet, PFSweb, in Memphis, Tennessee.
American Eagle gold coins bearing the new reverse design are expected to be released later this year in a variety of products. Mint officials have provided few details about the future products, although Proof versions are anticipated.
Both numismatic versions and the bullion coins will receive the new reverse design when it is ready.
Guess I was wrong about the advance sales having a material effect on PR Age availability. Anyway the 5% premium for the advance sale privilege and having to pick them up from Memphis probably caused many to ABPP's to balk.
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Sounds like these are the sorts of cc issues that, if unresolved, lead to additional quantities being available in the days after.
Also, it would not surprise me if the mint normally tries to hit a declined card a second time later to see if it goes through.
What sort of lunacy is this?!!!!
I went through this last year with the mint when I wasn't getting the free shipping because all my orders were processing my external e-mail address (the one I login with) was correct. The internal e-mail the address associated with the mint profile had a typographical error. When the order status was updated it was never updating my account. When the error was corrected 5 years of orders went from Processing to Shipped with the correct shipping dates. I have received my free shipping without calling ever since.
Things ship correctly because your name and address is correct
Except I also get my free shipping. So, while this may have been your issue, I don't know that it is everyone's issue.
This "processing" error happened to me last year also. It rectified itself and now it's back.
I expected to see some availability this morning
Me too. Didn't see anything.
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Hope you didn't spill your coffee....there was a big fat goose egg this morning.
nothing for me either
One ouncer is open for business. Four coin open now.
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Clever they waited a few minutes. Now available
Just got a 4 pc set
All 5 were available. 1oz, 1/2oz, 1/4oz. gone now.
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One ounce is closed now......open for 3 minutes.
1/10th ouncer only one left.
yes, 05:34 coins were available. got the 4 coin set and it still shows more in stock
Wow they did come in late. Grabbed a 1/10th ounce. USM093657XX
Wow, they popped at 0735 for a few seconds
4 coin now unavailable again
Got a 1/4 oz and the 4 pc set
4 coin open again!! 7:38am.
edited to add: I blinked....it's gone.
I noticed my device didn’t do that checking your browser thing until about 6:33 right before they popped available.
I stopped looking at 7:34. LOL.
But when I saw this post, I went back and the 4 piece was still there. Managed to snag one - presumably!
1/10 still up and ready and red
I'm surprised at how "plentiful" those have been. I still think that's a bad long-term sign for these. Flip 'em while you can.
1/10th ouncer gone!
I assume that over the next few days the window will become quite small.
I think you are right but I think the window will stay open for several weeks
How long until these ship if you didn't select the "next day" service? Any guesses from past experience? One week? Two?
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I don't know. Maybe for the 1/10 and the 4 coin. The supply was pretty constrained on the others. I mean, as a individual offering, the 1/2 oz is about the same (1600) as the V75 AGE (1945). Those didn't stay consistently available for weeks. Same with the 1/4 oz at 2700. There are always a few cancellations/rejections early and the occasional return or something later. But I don't think there will consistently be much supply.
[And I say that even though I'm not a big believer in these.]
U.S. Mint, American Eagle 2020 Gold Proof Four-Coin Set is available, at least 99......that's 2020 (20EF).
I would almost guarantee that the next sales figures will see that the 2020 4 coin set sales will increase due to people ordering the wrong item
I nearly did just that this morning, clicking the top choice 4 coin set on the American Eagle program page shortly before 630 and not noticing it was the 2020 set (20EF). It was only a device/browser glitch at my end that prevented me from adding it to my cart and purchasing quickly. I went back and refreshed and still did not see (21EF) on the AE program page, had to click through from the 2021 product schedule.
(now please get out of my head)
that 90 percent feedback makes me want to hit the buy it now so bad
Some people are simply idiots. Anybody who would pay this kind of money is also an idiot.
At least this idiot offers free expedited shipping!
So... how do the proof 2021 type 1 AGE mintages compare to previous years? I got the 1/4 Oz but do not see any value for flipping, unless your clueless and think these are rare... which they are not compared to previous year mintages. I am sure with the quick sell outs they will increase the type 2 mintages, making that even less attractive for flipping.
The 2021 proof mintages will be the lowest produced, but proof AGEs have never really gained value over time.
This!
But @dennis1219 you are conflating 2 different issues: flipping potential and long term value.
Flipping potential is all based on what the current price is. For example the 2021-W silver proof eagle is not rare and is unlikely to go up. But right now, I can buy them from the Mint for $73 and flip them for $100+ all day long. 2 years from now, it might be worth $60. But who cares? I'll be out.
Your 1/4 is currently flippable at $800 to $850. It may well be worth half that 6 months from now.
One of my four coin sets has shipped!
That was fast! Curious- when did you order?
Following sales numbers Include Launch Day Only sales + Authorized Bulk Purchase Program Early sales:
2021 Type 1 1 oz. American Gold Eagle Max Mintage 4,500 Sold 4,453 or 99.0%
2021 Type 1 ½ oz. American Gold Eagle Max Mintage 1,600 Sold 1,573 or 98.3%
2021 Type 1 ¼ oz. American Gold Eagle Max Mintage 2,700 Sold 2,659 or 98.5%
2021 Type 1 1/10 oz. American Gold Eagle Max Mintage 8,000 Sold 7,775 or 97.2%
2021 Type 1 4 coin set American Gold Eagle Max Mintage 8,200 Sold 8.017 or 97.8%
The APs were allowed a maximum of 45 of the 4 coin 2021 Type 1 Gold Proofs and 25 of the single 1 oz. 2021 Type 1 American Gold Eagle Proof coin.
Criteria was that each has spent $500,000 in each of the last two years.
Each were charged 5% premium above retail and they had to pick up the coins at Memphis…
…SO…The Authorized Purchasers did Not get any of the individual ½ oz., ¼ oz. or the 1/10 oz. 2021 Type 1 American Gold Eagle Proofs…
My Four-Coin set was shipped UPS Ground. Just received shipping email from the Mint. Order number USM093189xx.
My Four-Coin set was shipped UPS Ground also. Email dated today at 12:22pm EST.
Order #USM093353xx
Despite what some think - the Mint really sort of hates their APs. LOL.
Lots of mistakes in reporting the pricing from Coin World. Guess they were in a hurry.
In a matter of minutes on March 11, all five options for the Proof 2021-W American Eagle, Reverse of 1986 gold coins reached the “currently unavailable” stage, on the first day of sales.
“Currently unavailable” means product is not available now, but could be, should orders be canceled by the customer or if the Mint cancels an order because of payment issues, such as expired credit cards. The product resulting from such cancellations could go back into the ordering loop to fulfill demand.
The year’s first Proof American Eagle gold coins bear the legislated Family of Eagles reverse design executed by artist Miley Busiek, the original design introduced in 1986.
In mid-2021, as part of the Mint’s efforts to integrate anti-counterfeiting technology into the production process, the bureau will introduce a second type of Proof American Eagle gold coin, all exhibiting a new reverse design.
The newly implemented Authorized Bulk Purchase Program allowed the 18 participating dealers to place orders before March 11, each for a maximum of 45 of the four-coin sets and 25 of the single 1-ounce gold Proof coins.
Dealers qualifying for the ABPP have purchased $500,000 in U.S. Mint numismatic products for each of the last two years.
The prices for gold Proof coins purchased early included a 5 percent premium above the retail issue price, plus the cost of picking up the products March 8 at the Mint’s contracted order fulfillment outlet, PFSweb, in Memphis, Tennessee.
American Eagle gold coins bearing the new reverse design are expected to be released later this year in a variety of products. Mint officials have provided few details about the future products, although Proof versions are anticipated.
Both numismatic versions and the bullion coins will receive the new reverse design when it is ready.
https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/proof-2021-american-eagle-gold-coins-sell-out-quickly
Guess I was wrong about the advance sales having a material effect on PR Age availability. Anyway the 5% premium for the advance sale privilege and having to pick them up from Memphis probably caused many to ABPP's to balk.
93123xx is my order number.
All of my fractional’s have shipped.
This is one of the best instances of communication and processing the Mint has given me.
Miles, I too am impressed with the super quick shipping via UPS ground service.