@calgolddiver said:
rerun ... a recent acquisition ... pop 1 ... overstrike on 1863 Indian
Beautiful, valuable, and so hard to find. I have an overstrike CWT, on what I believe is another CWT, but it is very difficult to make out. It is a CWT NY 630-BZ-4A APOTH. WEIGHT-OVERSTRUCK ON CWT COPPER (R-1) STORECARD 1863/1850 MS-63BN, I believe. But I am not even sure how to evaluate it, or whether PCGS would evaluate it.
Awesome tokens. I am sure @DCW will make an appearance now with those tokens.
I couldn’t comment on your initial tokens as I am not that familiar with off metals. Also don’t do as much with storecards, but your latest are well over pieces.
I picked up a few new pieces lately. Two are in for grading, here is the one that was previously slabbed. The slab is pretty scuffed and the token being a primitive is not the best strike so photos were tough for me.
My other additions will make appearances in the coming days/weeks.
Is there a most recent listing of known die pairings? I had the thought the other day to try to make an album or album series for Patriotics and Storecards that actually lists the die pairings beneath the hole. Whitman did make a Civil War token album before the start of the modern Whitman Classic binders, but the pages are blank.
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There are so many different pairings. I use the Bowers reference book which lists the dies and which others dies they were paired with, and just ordered the Patriotic civil War Token Book 6th edition.
@SimpleCollector said:
There are so many different pairings. I use the Bowers reference book which lists the dies and which others dies they were paired with, and just ordered the Patriotic civil War Token Book 6th edition.
@TPRC Nice Merriams! The Good For A Scent is probably the most popular Civil War token of all time. A lot have seemed to come out of the woodwork in the last 5 years, owing much to the high prices realized at auction.
Grading exonumia really is all over the place. It is especially hard to get a "RD" designation on copper Civil War tokens. Very, very hard. The color looks kind of strange on your 115E-2a, but maybe just the True view. Any luster in hand?
NGC calls this "RB!"
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"Grading exonumia really is all over the place. It is especially hard to get a "RD" designation on copper Civil War tokens. Very, very hard. The color looks kind of strange on your 115E-2a, but maybe just the True view. Any luster in hand?"
TPRC comment:
The 2a is not lustrous. I actually thought it might be plated since it looks like it had a "skin" on it. If it was not plated, I thought it would grade 66 red. It is literally almost orange. I admit, the coin is unusual but I confess to not being an expert on original copper color. I remember years ago buying an early and fully original 1834 1/2 cent that had been in a folder for many decades. I assumed it was cleaned/re-toned/treated, but the dealer who sold it disagreed so I paid his asking price on the assumption that if he was right, it was worth much more that the asking price, and if I was right, it was worth a whole lot less, so why argue. It graded 65RB and I concluded that that is what original color really looks like, and it is quite unusual to find it on coins/tokens nearly 200 years old. This 2a token had a similar look but even more extreme.
BTW, the Kuhn piece is strikingly lustrous and I thought it would grade a point higher, though the distractions certainly justify the 4 grade. FWIW, I graded the 1A as a 4BN and the West's token as a 5 due to the print, so I'm not sure I got any of them correct.
It's been quite a few decades since I've purchased any CWT's but I am happily rediscovering these through the Knickerbocker Currency designs. I know these are quite common, but rediscovery of them brings me much happiness . . . . .
I need to take better photos, but here are the first two that arrived . . . . .
A lot of red there, but if I am a grader, I am going to grade it RB because, well, it's not going to get any redder! I do agree that it is a premium piece for whatever grade it is-it looks like the 67!
@ZoidMeister said:
It's been quite a few decades since I've purchased any CWT's but I am happily rediscovering these through the Knickerbocker Currency designs. I know these are quite common, but rediscovery of them brings me much happiness . . . . .
Very common, yes, but an iconic design that is super popular.
Here is one issued for coin dealer, H.D. Gerdts: H.D. Gerdts, NY. PCGS MS65+RB, ex. Q.David Bowers
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
Here is a pic of the Bowers book that I have been using to start understanding CWT.
As others have mentioned above, some have joined the Civil War Token Society. I just joined and one of the benefits is either free or reduced price books. Today, just in time for the major east coast snowstorm, the following 4 books arrived. I think the patriotic book will give me additional info on my area of focus. I am also looking forward to learning some more about the engravers.
For me, the end of last year was famine in the CWT market. The beginning of this year has started out fast. Here is a recent acquisition that arrived today. I have been looking for a nice CWT with an eagle design. While not the highest grade, I thought this token had nice eye appeal.
I purchased the Fuld book from CWTS based on @DCW referral. Got an email later that day and they said if I wanted to join they would give me the member price on the book and apply the balance to membership. So I’m a member now. That was nice of them.
Received the quarterly newsletter today, still waiting on the book.
I do question any organization that would have me but so be it.
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Great to see all the posts and the new memberships to the CWTS. As was mentioned, the discounts on books and the quarterly journal are all worth the price.
Hunkering down with a Nor Easter, and I think it's time to break out some tokens this weekend! Keep 'em coming
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I’ve been trying to do a better job of taking pics and updating my collection… Alas, I seem better at accumulating than doing the other aspects. That said, as mentioned above, I now have both the Bowers token book and the patriotic cwt book from the civil war token society. Both are great compliments to hands on learning and learning from trial and error.
In addition to the many stellar and rare examples posted here, plus the great historical write ups, some also collect by die type. I am pretty sure that is a lifelong endeavor as many famous collectors have proven. My collection is growing, and my learning continues. Here are some quick family pics. I think all of the pcgs tokens have true views if anyone wanted to see great pics. For the ngc tokens, there are some pics in a set I started there.
To me, CWT’s are as addictive as old gold. Easy to get drawn in, tough to leave.
While this should probably not be considered a CWT, it is a very popular medal from the Civil War assigned as a storecard. John Matthews Soda Apparatus medal in Silver NGC MS63DPL, ex. Partrick
I picked this up in last year's sale of the Donald Groves Partrick Collection for what I believe was a very good buy. This is probably a unique piece, struck on a double thick planchet. Seems like a presentation piece.
*edited to add that this piece isn't hard to find in copper, but it is extremely rare (maybe unique) in silver. I have never seen another.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
My only example. As the article linked at the bottom of this post describes, J.B. Schiller owned Sazerac House in New Orleans during the Civil War and is credited for inventing the Sazerac cocktail. All known Schiller counterstamps are on 1860 Indian cents, and the reverse is marked with a large X, revaluing the piece from one cent to 10 cents.
@ZoidMeister said:
It's been quite a few decades since I've purchased any CWT's but I am happily rediscovering these through the Knickerbocker Currency designs. I know these are quite common, but rediscovery of them brings me much happiness . . . . .
Congrats on those two tokens! Why do you like the Knickerbocker design?
The Knickerbocker Currency design is one of my favorites. Yours are especially nice because the hat is strong on both.
Here are two of mine:
Knickerbocker Currency - Good for 1 Cent
Catalog: Fuld 255/392 f R9
Grade: NGC MS63 POP 0/1/0
Pedigree: Julius Guttag; Donald G. Partrick
General G. B. McClellan Knickerbocker Currency
Catalog: Fuld 138/255 f R8
Grade: NGC MS64 POP 1/0/0
Pedigree: Steve Hayden
This is one of those older tokens which isn't in the NGC Census.
I showed this one in an earlier post, but that was before I owned it. Now, I am curious as to the grade. I have seen 2 other on-line, both from Stacks, one a PC-62 and one an raw xf-45. Frankly, the one below is clearly nicer than the 45 from Stack's but maybe not as nice as the 62. Normally, I would grade this piece a vf, but I suspect the grade is considerably higher-if slabbed. And whoever sold this to the dealer I bought it from called it unc, it appears.
OK-I apologize up front for the terrible photos to follow, but I am considering purchasing a rather scarce token in hard rubber, as follows:
New York--New York. Undated (1861-1865) S.H. Scripture. 4 Cents. Fuld-630BP-2h. Rarity-6. Black Hard Rubber. Plain Edge. 19 mm.
I believe it is uncirculated, but candidly, I really have no idea how to grade something like this. The Tannenbaum piece in NGC-64 sold for $464 or so in 2017 and mine looks at least as nice, but who knows with rubber. a similar 63 sold for around $350 and a 65, also from a noted collection, sold for $1100 over a decade ago. So, I really don't even know how to value, though it may be worth the risk to purchase.
Also, I am not at all sure how to spruce it up, if at all, for grading. I am pretty sure Acetone is a no no. I tried that once on an NGC slab, and the results were not good. Other than a light stroke with a camel hair brush, it seems that most anything will be or may be reactive?
Any suggestions on value or cleaning would be appreciated. If there is any opinion or interest, I'll see if I can get some better pics. And thank you in advance for any comments.
Do not put acetone on that unless you want to watch your token dissolve into a small puddle of history! I would leave it alone, but if you have problem areas that you simply cannot live with, try some warm water, maybe a drop of dishwashing detergent. It's hard rubber, afterall.
As to grading? How does anyone grade tokens and medals (especially off metals and unique designs) with any kind of consistency? They just feel their way through it based on wear patterns, and add up the marks, hits, spots, etc. I'm quite certain if you submit this three times, you will get three different grades. Unlike, grading Indian Head cents, there simply is no standard in grading exonumia.
Eye appeal is everything.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
Here's one I haven't seen in a while. I used to see these at shows with some regularity, but I think I've only seen one in the last 5 years, and that was recently:
This is a mega token for me for this mega thread because:
I love errors and this is the biggest, and deepest cud I've seen on a Civil War Token or other piece. I'm not even sure how the die survived having such a deep cud!
This token is from the "Bowers Reference Set" and it's the only token I've seen with this old insert.
This is a Broas Pie Baker token, a series which has extensive die deterioration so it's fun to collect from a die state perspective
Here is my new acquisition, a lifetime membership to the Civil War Token Society! I'm tired of forgetting to send in my dues year after year, so I went big. They even sent me this gold card.
I hear these things can get you out of a ticket at traffic stops.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
@DCW said:
Here is my new acquisition, a lifetime membership to the Civil War Token Society! I'm tired of forgetting to send in my dues year after year, so I went big. They even sent me this gold card.
I hear these things can get you out of a ticket at traffic stops.
Very cool!
I've thought about joining often but I'm stuck on electronic publications which most authors in numismatics don't do. I hope the CWTS can move to searchable PDFs.
I was spoiled by Rulau 4th edition in searchable PDF!
Another thought is that it would be cool if a membership card was a medal with your name and number engraved on it
Uniface Gold Restrike 1863 First In War, Fuld-173/0l, R.10, MS63 NGC. 19 mm, 4.22 gm. The Fuld-173 patriotic die survived the Civil War, and reached the hands of noted Civil War token specialist George Fuld by 1960. To commemorate the coming centennial of the Civil War, two uniface impressions were made from the die, one in gold and four in aluminum (Fuld-173/0f, R.9). Here we have the gold example, and one of the silver pieces is described in the prior lot. This is a well struck uniface piece with a mildly prooflike field and minor die rust.
Been a while since I had something new to post. Hoping to give this thread some new life and see some new and interesting tokens. Here is my recent patriotic CWT acquisition.
Bringing this thread back to the top. Received a new Token today. I’ve been at this awhile, but never understood the overstrike phenomenon. That is until about a week ago. One of the many dies I still need was available in an overstrike, I liked the look, loved the token, and decided it would be good to add an overstrike to my collection in addition to just different dies. It arrived today. Many times the tokens in hand don’t make you smile as much as you thought they would, but this one did.
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rerun ... a recent acquisition ... pop 1 ... overstrike on 1863 Indian
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Beautiful, valuable, and so hard to find. I have an overstrike CWT, on what I believe is another CWT, but it is very difficult to make out. It is a CWT NY 630-BZ-4A APOTH. WEIGHT-OVERSTRUCK ON CWT COPPER (R-1) STORECARD 1863/1850 MS-63BN, I believe. But I am not even sure how to evaluate it, or whether PCGS would evaluate it.
Tom
Awesome tokens. I am sure @DCW will make an appearance now with those tokens.
I couldn’t comment on your initial tokens as I am not that familiar with off metals. Also don’t do as much with storecards, but your latest are well over pieces.
I picked up a few new pieces lately. Two are in for grading, here is the one that was previously slabbed. The slab is pretty scuffed and the token being a primitive is not the best strike so photos were tough for me.
My other additions will make appearances in the coming days/weeks.
Is there a most recent listing of known die pairings? I had the thought the other day to try to make an album or album series for Patriotics and Storecards that actually lists the die pairings beneath the hole. Whitman did make a Civil War token album before the start of the modern Whitman Classic binders, but the pages are blank.
Custom album maker and numismatic photographer.
Need a personalized album made? Design it on the website below and I'll build it for you.
https://www.donahuenumismatics.com/.
There are so many different pairings. I use the Bowers reference book which lists the dies and which others dies they were paired with, and just ordered the Patriotic civil War Token Book 6th edition.
I love Ken Bauer's website:
https://cwtoken.com/
I hope the Civil War Token book will be published electronically in PDF one day, like Rulau's token reference.
Wow, lots of activity today with the mega thread!
@TPRC Nice Merriams! The Good For A Scent is probably the most popular Civil War token of all time. A lot have seemed to come out of the woodwork in the last 5 years, owing much to the high prices realized at auction.
Grading exonumia really is all over the place. It is especially hard to get a "RD" designation on copper Civil War tokens. Very, very hard. The color looks kind of strange on your 115E-2a, but maybe just the True view. Any luster in hand?
NGC calls this "RB!"
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
DCW said:
"Grading exonumia really is all over the place. It is especially hard to get a "RD" designation on copper Civil War tokens. Very, very hard. The color looks kind of strange on your 115E-2a, but maybe just the True view. Any luster in hand?"
TPRC comment:
The 2a is not lustrous. I actually thought it might be plated since it looks like it had a "skin" on it. If it was not plated, I thought it would grade 66 red. It is literally almost orange. I admit, the coin is unusual but I confess to not being an expert on original copper color. I remember years ago buying an early and fully original 1834 1/2 cent that had been in a folder for many decades. I assumed it was cleaned/re-toned/treated, but the dealer who sold it disagreed so I paid his asking price on the assumption that if he was right, it was worth much more that the asking price, and if I was right, it was worth a whole lot less, so why argue. It graded 65RB and I concluded that that is what original color really looks like, and it is quite unusual to find it on coins/tokens nearly 200 years old. This 2a token had a similar look but even more extreme.
BTW, the Kuhn piece is strikingly lustrous and I thought it would grade a point higher, though the distractions certainly justify the 4 grade. FWIW, I graded the 1A as a 4BN and the West's token as a 5 due to the print, so I'm not sure I got any of them correct.
Thank you for your input and comments.
Tom
That's a dog of a token!
Have you tried sending to PCGS?
It's been quite a few decades since I've purchased any CWT's but I am happily rediscovering these through the Knickerbocker Currency designs. I know these are quite common, but rediscovery of them brings me much happiness . . . . .
I need to take better photos, but here are the first two that arrived . . . . .
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Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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A lot of red there, but if I am a grader, I am going to grade it RB because, well, it's not going to get any redder! I do agree that it is a premium piece for whatever grade it is-it looks like the 67!
Tom
Very common, yes, but an iconic design that is super popular.
Here is one issued for coin dealer, H.D. Gerdts:
H.D. Gerdts, NY. PCGS MS65+RB, ex. Q.David Bowers
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
This was a favorite one I handled a while back. Very scarce African-American barber merchant token.
www.brunkauctions.com
re J.F. Siehler Boarding Haus
This is a cool thread. I have a few Civil War tokens somewhere. Mine are not nearly as good.
My final Knickerbocker for the week just arrived today.
It has the General McClellan reverse. It is attributed Fuld 225/138
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Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?
@The_Dinosaur_Man
Here is a pic of the Bowers book that I have been using to start understanding CWT.
As others have mentioned above, some have joined the Civil War Token Society. I just joined and one of the benefits is either free or reduced price books. Today, just in time for the major east coast snowstorm, the following 4 books arrived. I think the patriotic book will give me additional info on my area of focus. I am also looking forward to learning some more about the engravers.
For me, the end of last year was famine in the CWT market. The beginning of this year has started out fast. Here is a recent acquisition that arrived today. I have been looking for a nice CWT with an eagle design. While not the highest grade, I thought this token had nice eye appeal.
I purchased the Fuld book from CWTS based on @DCW referral. Got an email later that day and they said if I wanted to join they would give me the member price on the book and apply the balance to membership. So I’m a member now. That was nice of them.
Received the quarterly newsletter today, still waiting on the book.
I do question any organization that would have me but so be it.
@SimpleCollector thanks for the suggestions!
Custom album maker and numismatic photographer.
Need a personalized album made? Design it on the website below and I'll build it for you.
https://www.donahuenumismatics.com/.
Great to see all the posts and the new memberships to the CWTS. As was mentioned, the discounts on books and the quarterly journal are all worth the price.
Hunkering down with a Nor Easter, and I think it's time to break out some tokens this weekend! Keep 'em coming
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I’ve been trying to do a better job of taking pics and updating my collection… Alas, I seem better at accumulating than doing the other aspects. That said, as mentioned above, I now have both the Bowers token book and the patriotic cwt book from the civil war token society. Both are great compliments to hands on learning and learning from trial and error.
In addition to the many stellar and rare examples posted here, plus the great historical write ups, some also collect by die type. I am pretty sure that is a lifelong endeavor as many famous collectors have proven. My collection is growing, and my learning continues. Here are some quick family pics. I think all of the pcgs tokens have true views if anyone wanted to see great pics. For the ngc tokens, there are some pics in a set I started there.
To me, CWT’s are as addictive as old gold. Easy to get drawn in, tough to leave.
Yikes! Those are some nice tokens and some big grades as well!.
Tom
two more for today ... previously posted ... both overstrikes and 1 of 1 by PCGS
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@calgolddiver
Thank you for posting those tokens. I admittedly have not been a fan of overstrikes up to now, but in learning am beginning to understand them more.
Your tokens show what is findable and it is great to get tokens to aspire too.
Thanks, I look forward to seeing more nice tokens.
ttt - just don't want this thread to slip into oblivion--too many nice pics. post a token, please.
Tom
While this should probably not be considered a CWT, it is a very popular medal from the Civil War assigned as a storecard.
John Matthews Soda Apparatus medal in Silver NGC MS63DPL, ex. Partrick
I picked this up in last year's sale of the Donald Groves Partrick Collection for what I believe was a very good buy. This is probably a unique piece, struck on a double thick planchet. Seems like a presentation piece.
*edited to add that this piece isn't hard to find in copper, but it is extremely rare (maybe unique) in silver. I have never seen another.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
My only example. As the article linked at the bottom of this post describes, J.B. Schiller owned Sazerac House in New Orleans during the Civil War and is credited for inventing the Sazerac cocktail. All known Schiller counterstamps are on 1860 Indian cents, and the reverse is marked with a large X, revaluing the piece from one cent to 10 cents.
Link to Article:
https://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v19n31a19.html
Congrats on those two tokens! Why do you like the Knickerbocker design?
The Knickerbocker Currency design is one of my favorites. Yours are especially nice because the hat is strong on both.
Here are two of mine:
Knickerbocker Currency - Good for 1 Cent
Catalog: Fuld 255/392 f R9
Grade: NGC MS63 POP 0/1/0
Pedigree: Julius Guttag; Donald G. Partrick
General G. B. McClellan Knickerbocker Currency
Catalog: Fuld 138/255 f R8
Grade: NGC MS64 POP 1/0/0
Pedigree: Steve Hayden
This is one of those older tokens which isn't in the NGC Census.
I showed this one in an earlier post, but that was before I owned it. Now, I am curious as to the grade. I have seen 2 other on-line, both from Stacks, one a PC-62 and one an raw xf-45. Frankly, the one below is clearly nicer than the 45 from Stack's but maybe not as nice as the 62. Normally, I would grade this piece a vf, but I suspect the grade is considerably higher-if slabbed. And whoever sold this to the dealer I bought it from called it unc, it appears.
Tom
UPDATED WITH BETTER PICS
OK-I apologize up front for the terrible photos to follow, but I am considering purchasing a rather scarce token in hard rubber, as follows:
New York--New York. Undated (1861-1865) S.H. Scripture. 4 Cents. Fuld-630BP-2h. Rarity-6. Black Hard Rubber. Plain Edge. 19 mm.
I believe it is uncirculated, but candidly, I really have no idea how to grade something like this. The Tannenbaum piece in NGC-64 sold for $464 or so in 2017 and mine looks at least as nice, but who knows with rubber. a similar 63 sold for around $350 and a 65, also from a noted collection, sold for $1100 over a decade ago. So, I really don't even know how to value, though it may be worth the risk to purchase.
Also, I am not at all sure how to spruce it up, if at all, for grading. I am pretty sure Acetone is a no no. I tried that once on an NGC slab, and the results were not good. Other than a light stroke with a camel hair brush, it seems that most anything will be or may be reactive?
Any suggestions on value or cleaning would be appreciated. If there is any opinion or interest, I'll see if I can get some better pics. And thank you in advance for any comments.
Tom
@TPRC
Do not put acetone on that unless you want to watch your token dissolve into a small puddle of history! I would leave it alone, but if you have problem areas that you simply cannot live with, try some warm water, maybe a drop of dishwashing detergent. It's hard rubber, afterall.
As to grading? How does anyone grade tokens and medals (especially off metals and unique designs) with any kind of consistency? They just feel their way through it based on wear patterns, and add up the marks, hits, spots, etc. I'm quite certain if you submit this three times, you will get three different grades. Unlike, grading Indian Head cents, there simply is no standard in grading exonumia.
Eye appeal is everything.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
Really love this one! The toning is spectacular.
I was just looking over my copper version, which also has toned nicely.
Great design by William H. Bridgens.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
Here's one I haven't seen in a while. I used to see these at shows with some regularity, but I think I've only seen one in the last 5 years, and that was recently:
Tom
@TPRC
Those are nice but not Civil War tokens
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
you are correct, of course. Wrong thread.
Tom
Here's a new pick up.
This is a mega token for me for this mega thread because:
Here is my new acquisition, a lifetime membership to the Civil War Token Society! I'm tired of forgetting to send in my dues year after year, so I went big. They even sent me this gold card.
I hear these things can get you out of a ticket at traffic stops.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
Even though I started my own thread, I will post this here. An Indiana primitive. one of only 5 or 6 known.
That's a neat one @Picker1954 . Indiana Primitives have a following all of their own
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
Very cool!
I've thought about joining often but I'm stuck on electronic publications which most authors in numismatics don't do. I hope the CWTS can move to searchable PDFs.
I was spoiled by Rulau 4th edition in searchable PDF!
Another thought is that it would be cool if a membership card was a medal with your name and number engraved on it
I really like the CWT's. I have 20 plus and like to see ones like these beauties. Nice
USN & USAF retired 1971-1993
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Wow! This restrike was done in the 1960s.
Any idea who did this or owned the die back then?
Source: First Class Coins
Heritage sold this a while back. From this, it seems like this was struck by George Fuld in 1962.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/civil-war-patriotics/tokens-and-medals/uniface-gold-restrike-1863-first-in-war-fuld-173-0l-r10-ms63-ngc/a/462-81390.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515
Been a while since I had something new to post. Hoping to give this thread some new life and see some new and interesting tokens. Here is my recent patriotic CWT acquisition.
Nice one @SimpleCollector ! Ample red left on that lustrous lovely lady
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
That Monitor is beautiful!
Let's see if you can guess the grade on this. I posted it earlier but have now bought it and got it graded ATS....
Tom
I for one have never tried to grade a token of this material. I believe it’s lead. Pics aren’t that clear to see, but my guess would be 63.
NGC XF-45
Tom
Bringing this thread back to the top. Received a new Token today. I’ve been at this awhile, but never understood the overstrike phenomenon. That is until about a week ago. One of the many dies I still need was available in an overstrike, I liked the look, loved the token, and decided it would be good to add an overstrike to my collection in addition to just different dies. It arrived today. Many times the tokens in hand don’t make you smile as much as you thought they would, but this one did.