Die cracks, Die break, or Cracked Die???
coindude88
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Mint Error specialists please chime in!
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Scratches.
You're just kidding I hope?
Reverse photo would help.
Is it raised on the coin or "scratched" in the surface? That's how you tell the difference.
C'mon people they're definitely raised die cracks.....I just wanted to know if they're extreme enough to grade as cracked die or split die instead of "OBV. Die Cracks".
I'm gonna guess glue.
Perfectly circular die cracks? I highly doubt it. Looks more like it was stuck in some machine, (coin counter?), and got a serious scratch in the process.
He's telling you that they are raised.
for sure not a die crack. it is not a coincidence that odd color stop at the concentric line.
if you uploaded an original (larger) image, we could comment a little further.
remember we can't hold the coin, we can only go by what you give us.
happy hunting
What a waste of a post......you guys are useless!
https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/die-cracks-simple-collectors-clearinghouse.html
3rd picture!
My first thought was a bead of glue. IMO
@coindude88 "What a waste of a post......you guys are useless!"
Then why do you waste your time and ours to post it?
Send it in to our host and put your money where your mouth is.
IF you were smart you might try an acetone bath first.
NEVER seen a Lincoln Cent like this. My first guess was PMD from a coin counting Machine -a very aggressive coin counting machine. But none the less, PMD is my best guess.
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Go here to see what a die crack, die break and cracked die look like (all on one Morgan dollar....various stages as the die failed. Scroll down to the 1888-o that begins on page 15.
bob
http://www.ssdcvams.com/VAMview9.pdf
A scratch made by a sharp object (like a knife)
can raise a ridge of metal next to the scratch.
We see this sometimes on half dimes.
This might be glue, though.
Well I can't speak for the rest of them but, I myself, am useless so you are very perceptive!
Cracks follow grain boundaries, which is why they are jagged, not concentric.
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First look makes me think glue also.
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Sorry you can call us useless if you like, however that is not a die crack on your Lincoln. A few others have mentioned glue, and that is what I am leaning towards. Die cracks do not have odd skipped areas like yours is showing where the crack just stops suddenly in space and then starts again.
Need some better pictures.
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i recognize that one, along with many others. i never said a die break cannot be concentric, although 98%+ of the time they don't/aren't. especially USA coinage. those extreme cuds are found mostly on non-USA coins. i've owned hundreds of cuds foreign and usa, so i am familiar.
to cut through all of this:
no, it was not. - unless it turns out to have some major error or variety we cannot see. <1%
what else do you have?
It's a terminal late die stage Shattered Obverse Die on an UNC. RedBrown Lincoln Wheat Cent.
To those of you saying it's glue or scratches..........you need help badly!
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Maybe it's...glue!
there's somethin' fishy goin' on here...
Actually, you're right it's a die crack, it's just a man made die crack.
Oh come on guys, what did we used to say;
Don't feed the trolls
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Here's a thread from last November where the answer also looked like glue.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1028589/what-has-happened-to-this-2015-quarter
Other glue threads:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1004657/1973-lincoln-penny-with-significant-flaw
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/989009/neat-find-rare-error-penny-what-do-you-think
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1005865/what-kind-of-error-is-this
Post Mintage Damage (PMD) from a coin rolling machine. This was caused by the crimping device on the end of a "shotgun roll". Spend it.
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@coindude88 .... That is not a die crack. It is PMD of some type...If you are convinced it is a die crack, simply send it in to our hosts. Be prepared to be disappointed though...Cheers, RickO
My ex wife used to call me that. I think it looks like glue as well. Jmo
That would explain the difference in color between the center and the outer edge. I think you’re right.
Point being, it is not a die crack or die break.
IMO, it doesn't look like a die crack. As others have pointed out, it shouldnt be smooth and circular it should have some irregularity in the shape. You can even see the irregularity in the Coin Week link you referenced earlier, yet yours has none. Plus, there are breaks in the feature along the left side and the termination on the right is very sharp, not blunted Once again that's not what you would expect from a propagating crack through a metal with multiple grain/domain boundaries. Finally, with such a significant failure, I would expect to see some die subsidence. While this may not happen all cases, it it certainly adds to the information supporting something other than a catastrophic die failure.
I believe it's a circular cut that has some raised/displaced metal along the edge giving the appearance of a raised feature. Just my opinion.
BTW, http://cuds-on-coins.com has pics of a lot of die cracks and die failures. A quick glance didn't show your coin, nor did I see anything that resembled a nearly perfect circular crack. I believe you can contact them regarding your coin
Hope this helps
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Commenting 4 years late just to provide some input:
that is without a doubt, 100% from a coin roll crimping device. this was at the end of a coin roll, and the crimping machine carved into the coin and made those circular gouges in order to make those round edges on the roll where you can see the face of the coin on either end of the roll.
regarding the marks being "raised": when you gouge a coin the metal has to go somewhere. Typically, it ends up immediately next to the shallow scratch making it appear like there was some kind of mysterious die crack. not the case. damage, damage, damage.
@PerryHall was dead on the money on this one.
seen this on buffalo nickels mostly.
no one will probably read this, it being a 4 year old post. But if someone does, I sincerely hope this helped.