I was just looking @ Beckett.com price guide and they have this suff listed but with no prices yet. here is there checklist for 1960 cut sigs BILL MAZEROSKI DICK GROAT EDDIE YOST FRANK HOWARD FRANK ROBINSON MINNIE MINOSO MANTLE ($1500 RIGHT NOW) RICHIE ASHBURN VERNON LAW WARREN SPAHN
they also only list the 3 super sp's that we know about
Knopfler you sure are beating the odds! Has anyone else opened regular retail yet? I wonder if Knopfler's case was just a fluke or if all regular retail cases have no regular chromes and more refractors and black refractors???
Chris, very strange on the chromes but you certainly have to be happy with 3 black refractors so far. Wow, looking at the cut auto list, Topps made it very weak as well.
<< <i>I was just looking @ Beckett.com price guide and they have this suff listed but with no prices yet. here is there checklist for 1960 cut sigs BILL MAZEROSKI DICK GROAT EDDIE YOST FRANK HOWARD FRANK ROBINSON MINNIE MINOSO MANTLE ($1500 RIGHT NOW) RICHIE ASHBURN VERNON LAW WARREN SPAHN
they also only list the 3 super sp's that we know about >>
First off, a few of those guys aren't even dead, Frank and Minnie signed just a few months ago on actual real one autos..now they are cuts? LMAO
I am figuring out print run right now. It looks like the hobby run is 500,000 packs. This based upon the Clubhouse Collection Dual Relics (only found in hobby) are numbered to 10 and their are 5 of them, total 50X10,200 and you get roughly 500K packs.
25 Packs (1 in the middle between the two stacks) one pack at the bottom had 10 cards including an SP and a refractor 8 SP's 9 Inserts 5 Refractors (I'm losing track without looking back, but I think that is 17 refractors and 0 chrome)
I have six of #346, and they are all the same. Hhhrrrmmmph.
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<< <i>Crazy collation from that Retail Case....I'll take the Black Refractors over the Chromes any day. >>
Definitely! And I usually try to put together a chrome set, but I may have to switch that to a refractor set this year if the rest of my retail product ends up the same.
Looking at Chris' (Knopfler's) results from his first case got me to theorizing how that zero chrome collation could have happened. Obviously I have no working knowledge of how Topps' machines actually work, but what if there were settings that had to be set manually at the start of the pack insertion process, and one of the workers set the settings wrong and mixed up the pack insertion ratio's for chrome, refractor and black refractor? Here's what I mean:
The correct ratio of chromes was pulled by Chris, but as refractors. The correct ratio of refractors was pulled by Chris, but as black refractors. The correct ratio of black refractors was pulled by Chris, but as chromes.
Probably not an accurate theory, but it's plausible.
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8 SP's
8 Inserts
2 Refractors (7 refractors and 0 chromes so far)
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8 SP's
8 Inserts
2 Refractors (9 refractors and 0 chromes)
1 CC (Milledge)
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7 SPs
4 chrome (with 2 sequential Kinslers from different packs)
1 black - Grady Sizemore
Youkilis GU
7 SPs again
4 chrome
GU - BJ Upton
1 pack had 5 cards and 2 pieces of gum
thanks Nick
box 3 just coughed up the Smoltz Red Sox variation
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4 chrome
GU - Pedroia
1 blank card
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funny no refractors through 3 boxes
think I know who's boxes they ended up in
<< <i>thanks Nick
box 3 just coughed up the Smoltz Red Sox variation
very nice. now do you keep it for your set or throw it on Feebay?
<< <i>very nice. now do you keep it for your set or throw it on Feebay? >>
not sure yet but think I might keep it
box 4:
7 SPs
4 chrome - Pedroia
1 ref - Ivan Rodriguez
GU - JD Drew
8 SP's
8 Inserts
3 Refractors (12 Refractors and 0 Chrome)
1 CC (Dan Johnson)
and ...
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7 SPs
4 chrome
1 ref - Delgado
Blue auto - Cal Neeman - Cubs
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1 more box for tonight and then it's movie time
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<< <i>What the heckl!! Three BLACKS in five boxes????? That is unheard of Knopfler!!!
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Three blacks, 12 refractors and zero chromes. Crazy, but I'll take it!
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BILL MAZEROSKI
DICK GROAT
EDDIE YOST
FRANK HOWARD
FRANK ROBINSON
MINNIE MINOSO
MANTLE ($1500 RIGHT NOW)
RICHIE ASHBURN
VERNON LAW
WARREN SPAHN
they also only list the 3 super sp's that we know about
9 SPs
4 chrome (2 sequential Phil Hughes from different packs)
1 ref - Angel Salome
GU - Maybin
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I could take a few black refractors to help trade for the rest of the set.
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So we know how many cuts there are now, can we finally put the production number thing to rest? Who is good with math?
Kevin
<< <i>So fred Lewis seems to be variation #4? >>
what? scans?
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<< <i>I was just looking @ Beckett.com price guide and they have this suff listed but with no prices yet. here is there checklist for 1960 cut sigs
BILL MAZEROSKI
DICK GROAT
EDDIE YOST
FRANK HOWARD
FRANK ROBINSON
MINNIE MINOSO
MANTLE ($1500 RIGHT NOW)
RICHIE ASHBURN
VERNON LAW
WARREN SPAHN
they also only list the 3 super sp's that we know about >>
First off, a few of those guys aren't even dead, Frank and Minnie signed just a few months ago on actual real one autos..now they are cuts? LMAO
I am figuring out print run right now. It looks like the hobby run is 500,000 packs. This based upon the Clubhouse Collection Dual Relics (only found in
hobby) are numbered to 10 and their are 5 of them, total 50X10,200 and you get roughly 500K packs.
Working on jumbo, blaster and retail right now.
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<< <i>So fred Lewis seems to be variation #4? >>
i had a feeling this was gonna happen
<< <i>
<< <i>So fred Lewis seems to be variation #4? >>
i had a feeling this was gonna happen >>
I'm surprised this got by the crew here.
25 Packs (1 in the middle between the two stacks) one pack at the bottom had 10 cards including an SP and a refractor
8 SP's
9 Inserts
5 Refractors (I'm losing track without looking back, but I think that is 17 refractors and 0 chrome)
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260 260 146
Can a solution be found to this?
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<< <i>I need the Gum :Funny
Watch out - the gum is made in China. Probably full of melamine. Seriously!!
65 SP's
62 Inserts
22 Refractors
0 Chromes
4 CC including 2 Group A's
4 Black Refractors
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<< <i>Do you think we'll see the opposite version of the Lewis/Winn card? Fred Lewis with a Randy Winn name, gotta be one of those as well. >>
I think we will. It's turning out to be exactly like the 1960 set.
Crazy collation from that Retail Case....I'll take the Black Refractors over the Chromes any day.
<< <i>Crazy collation from that Retail Case....I'll take the Black Refractors over the Chromes any day. >>
Definitely! And I usually try to put together a chrome set, but I may have to switch that to a refractor set this year if the rest of my retail product ends up the same.
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8 Short Prints
5 Chromes - 4,20 (X)2, 21,91
0 Refractors
2 BF
2 NF
1 NAP
1 T&N - Banks/Howard
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<< <i>anyone do any research on the ad panels? list? variations?
Kevin >>
beckett doesn't have a list for ad panels at all
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The correct ratio of chromes was pulled by Chris, but as refractors.
The correct ratio of refractors was pulled by Chris, but as black refractors.
The correct ratio of black refractors was pulled by Chris, but as chromes.
Probably not an accurate theory, but it's plausible.