The Official 2008 TOPPS HERITAGE Thread

prscott933 · March 8, 2008 9:57AM

i picked up 3 hobby packs and 6 retails packs. both places i went it looked like they had been thumbed through... oh well i was justing wanting to bust some of these. didn't get anything great. got 2 of the t205's. i like them. i haven't checked for SPs yet.

edited to add:
4 SPs (2 of #471)
9 Black Box
1 News Flashback

mdkuom · March 8, 2008 10:42AM

<< Is this the normal coloring on card #453? It's two tone -

>>

Both of my copies are red top and bottom.

sarge · March 8, 2008 11:29AM

Thanks for the link, But that is freaking rediculous for an Eddie Matthews Auto. Please. His auto baseball is $40. Waste of money at the $1,000 mark. Did you see the Spahn? It got to $400+ before it disappeared. Anyway now Im gonna have to buy some Target retail. Is it true that the 205's are 1:4 packs???That would be nice. Would get about 8 a box. None are really selling on ebay it seems though. Kind of high priced.

prscott933 · March 8, 2008 11:47AM

my target retail pack says 1:4 for the T205

parkerj · March 8, 2008 11:56AM

Anyone up for a chrome trade? I've only got a few more to go. thanks!

If anyone wants to trade a johan mets for a bill renna real-one auto, let me know.

fyi, I will be putting up the relics, buybacks, and panels sunday night, unless anyone here wants them.

2008 Topps Heritage Available to Trade:

CC bat relics: andruw jones, posada ,abreu, aramis ramirez (x2)
CC jersey relics: edmonds (x2), hafner, dm young, pedro, berkman (x2), smoltz, blalock, zimmerman

Chrome (#/1959)
94x2 89 86x2 85 82 81 77 71 70
69 66 63x2 62 55 54 53 47 46
44 39 26 3 1

Short Prints
499 498 490 488x2 486x2 484x2 479 477
472x2 471 470x2 469 467 466 461 455
454 453x2 451x2 450x2 449 448x2 445 443x3
441 438 436 434x2 432 431 426 409

Panels
Marshall – Monroe - A Ram
Dmitri Young - Gallardo - Duncan
Swisher - Hart - Liz
Koshansky - AGonzo - Utley
HanRam - Barf - Cordero
Broadway - Ohlendorf - Capps
Duke - Helton - KJohnson
Street - Grudz - Thome
ManX3 - Kemp - Pena
Pena - Carmona - DiceK
Lincecum - Kendell - Cubs
Hart - Liz - JWilson
Delgado - Broadway - Ohlendorf

Buybacks (card, #, back color)
bob anderson 447 gray
gene freese 472 gray
hobie landrith 422 white
cal mclish 445 gray
clem labine 403 white
casey wise 204 white
jim pendleton 174 gray
don rudolph 179 gray
bob nieman 375 w
johnny antonelli 377 w
tom gorman 449 gray
don rudolph 179 gray
hal jeffcoat 81 white
chico carrasquel 264 white

2008 Heritage Wantlist

JOHAN SANTANA Variation

Chrome or Refractor (no preference)
93 76 67 65 64 59 51 49 34 31 12

Short Prints
231 315 381 428 435 442 444 446 457 459
462 473 474 480 487 492 493 494x2
495 497 500

Black Backs: 92, 94, 210
NAP: 4

brian26 · March 8, 2008 12:37PM

I have started to put my set in binders today since it looks like it has officially been determined that it is 655 cards. Should take 73 sheets to do it. I'm not counting the Smoltz or Johan super SPs.

nam812 · March 8, 2008 12:51PM

How is everyone lining up their sets in pages with reference to the green backs/black backs? I think im gonna go with black backs inserted next to their green counterpart. For example, 1, 2gr, 2bl, 3gr, 3bl, 4, 5gr, 5bl, etc...

Knopfler · March 8, 2008 1:13PM

Nice, second auto out of the first half of my first LRCARDS case. Hope that ratio holds up for the last case and a half. I'm giving away one of the autos that I pulled. Check out the giveaways link below if you're interested in a shot at this auto. Here is the most recent inkster:

kmnorton · March 8, 2008 4:15PM

Jason, will you please just hit your multiple inks and tell us about it already!

joestalin · March 8, 2008 10:08PM

oh man nice auto!!

I have always put larger variation sets in the back of the binder, but next to them is cool. I always hated the 10 card sets that topps
does and they are awkard in binders. 73 sheets huh..good to know!

Kevin

zep33 · March 8, 2008 10:13PM

will 655 cards fit in a regular Ultra Pro binder or will there have to be 2 volumes?

nam812 · March 8, 2008 10:23PM

As an example, a 1972 Topps baseball set is 787 cards and it fits nicely in 88 pages (front side only) and a 3" D ring binder.

zep33 · March 8, 2008 10:34PM

my 73 set almost looks like it takes up more room than last year's Heritage in a binder

nam812 · March 8, 2008 10:46PM

Zep - Your 1973 set is a good comparison to this year's heritage as far as number of cards since the 1973 set has 660, but this year's 655 card heritage set will look a lot thicker in the binder because of the thicker card stock.

Speaking of heritage's thicker card stock, for all the guys that store their cards or extras in boxes, something i found interesting/helpful with heritage is that it only fills card boxes at a 70% rate. For example, the 2007 base set of 384 cards fits just about perfect in a 550 count box.

five7teen · March 9, 2008 12:48AM

<< Jason, will you please just hit your multiple inks and tell us about it already! >>

Kurt, still no actual ink, but I did get an Aramis Ramirez redemption. I'm still evening things out after getting a Ryan Howard auto last year, and a Santana auto plus the Wright wood mini in last year's A&G...

brian26 · March 9, 2008 1:06AM

<< How is everyone lining up their sets in pages with reference to the green backs/black backs? I think im gonna go with black backs inserted next to their green counterpart. For example, 1, 2gr, 2bl, 3gr, 3bl, 4, 5gr, 5bl, etc... >>

That's exactly how I am doing it.

brian26 · March 9, 2008 1:13AM

<< will 655 cards fit in a regular Ultra Pro binder or will there have to be 2 volumes? >>

I'm using one 3" D-Ring black binder. I've used that for the last four years of Heritage. Somehow the 2003 set fit into a 2" binder.

gregm13 · March 9, 2008 3:12AM

Guys.

Although I no longer collect baseball cards, I just love this thread. And I have to say that I wish to god that Topps put out a decent Heritage set. I absolutely LOVE the autographed cards from the set - especially from the common/semi-star players who were in the original 1959 Topps set. It blows me away.

I have recently begun a signed 1957 Topps football set, and just love the look of autographed vintage (including Heritage) cards. Is anyone trying to collect all of the autographed cards from the set?

Greg M.

Knopfler · March 9, 2008 3:58AM

This morning my four year old brings me one Heritage box out of a new case and want to open one pack. Here is the best card from this one pack:

magellan · March 9, 2008 4:04AM

Chris, you're utterly on fire ! Give it away, give it away, give it away.

parkerj · March 9, 2008 5:07AM

Great Autos! keep em coming.
Thanks for all the great trade offers and pending deals. I just got through all of them and now am left with a very short wantlist.

2008 Topps Heritage Available to Trade:

CC bat relics: andruw jones, posada ,abreu, aramis ramirez (x2)
CC jersey relics: edmonds (x2), hafner, dm young, pedro, berkman (x2), smoltz, blalock, zimmerman

Chrome (#/1959): 94x2 89 86 82 81 71 69 66 63x2 55 54 53 46 44 39 26

Short Prints
499 490 488x2 486 485 484x2 482 479 477
472 471 470 469 468 467x2 466 465 463
461 454 453x3 451x2 450x2 449x2 448 445x2 443x3
441 436x2 434x2 432 431 426x2 409

Panels: have 11- ask

2008 Heritage Wantlist

JOHAN SANTANA Variation[]

Chrome or Refractor (no preference)
93 67 65 64 59 31

parkerj · March 9, 2008 5:10AM

Picked up this beauty in a local trade:

magellan · March 9, 2008 6:53AM

Nice card Jim, I didn't realize how nice the Renna looked nor that he was Red Sox. Maybe I need to search eBay for one.

nam812 · March 9, 2008 7:23AM

After some more good trades here's what it looks like:

What I need:
SPs - 464.
Green Backs - 40.
Chromes - 11, 13, 17, 27, 31, 32, 34, 42, 52, 53, 61, 67, 68, 73, 74, 78, 83, 92, 93, and 97.

What I have available for trade:
SP - 231, 409, 431, 432, 433, 434, 436, 437, 438, 444, 446, 449, 454, 455, 458, 461, 463, 469, 471, 473, 474, 475, 477, 479, 481, 486, 487, 491, 497, 498, and 500.
News Flashback - 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10.
Baseball Flashback - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10.
Then and Now - 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10.
NAP - 6, 8, 10, 11, and 15.
Green Backs - 13, 14, 35, 57, 58, 60, 65, 78, 129, 130, 186, 283, 321, 323, 324, 334, 336, and 337.
Black Backs - 3, 18, 24, 40, 52, 57, 58, 61, 67, 79, 83, 91, 98, 117, 127, 130, 155, 174, 175, 177, 178, 195, 210, 301, 321, 322, 324, 325, 334, 335, 336, 338, 347, 350, and 360.
Chromes - 25, 26, 35, 44, 49, and 88.
Refractors - 5, 8, 9, 24, 34, 35, 54, 60, 62, 64, 65, 70, and 95.

joestalin · March 9, 2008 10:39AM

Hello All

I have updated my heritage website with some more scans if anyone is intersted. I have made my first two trades of the year. I look
forward to making many more!!!

Kevin

BigRedMachine · March 9, 2008 10:59AM

Box 5

Ichiro refractor is nice. Not much else.

BigRedMachine · March 9, 2008 11:03AM

After my five boxes, I'm a little disappointed in the collation (sp?)

There are some inserts (NF's, BF's) that I've got three of, yet I'm 51 BASE cards short of the set!! Yuk!!

I'm going to need a lot of help, through trades, eBay, and more boxes.

I'm also short 41 black backs, but have 45 doubles. Terrible.

I'll post a trade list later, my chromes and game used are for trade.

shawn

five7teen · March 9, 2008 11:44AM

Ichiro refractor is nice. Not much else. >>

Ahem, Ichiro refractor is very nice! I'll be happy to help you along the way to your set if it's available in trade...

joestalin · March 9, 2008 12:09PM

Anyone doing any player master sets? chrome, refractor, black refractor? Maybe mix and auto in there too? Anyone doing the
relic sets or autos sets?

Kevin

five7teen · March 9, 2008 12:25PM

<< Anyone doing any player master sets? chrome, refractor, black refractor? Maybe mix and auto in there too? Anyone doing the
relic sets or autos sets?

Kevin >>

I'd love to do Ichiro and Felix Hernandez sets Kevin...

TNP777 · March 9, 2008 12:52PM

<< Anyone doing any player master sets? chrome, refractor, black refractor? Maybe mix and auto in there too? Anyone doing the
relic sets or autos sets?

Kevin >>

Well, I've got black refractors of Penny, Kemp & Ethier so far, so I might go for master player sets of all five Dodgers (Kent & Martin are the others).

I think I might do the relics, too. Haven't quite decided.

joestalin · March 9, 2008 12:52PM

The Ichrio black might cost you some money, I think someone pulled the Felix black on here. I might do the Chipper
set just cause I have the black already.

Kevin

five7teen · March 9, 2008 1:03PM

<< The Ichrio black might cost you some money, I think someone pulled the Felix black on here. I might do the Chipper
set just cause I have the black already.

Kevin >>

Yeah, it's probably not something I'm going to go nuts over, but I'd pick them up in trades/buys if it worked out right. I managed two black refractors - Kinsler and IRod.

brian26 · March 9, 2008 1:13PM

Kind of an off-the-wall comment, but as I finished putting my partially completed set in a binder tonight, I realized the all-star cards at the back of the set have NL card with red borders and AL cards with blue borders. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Or was this done the same way as the 59 set? Usually red is associated with the AL, and blue or green is associated with the NL.

nam812 · March 9, 2008 1:18PM

That's how the original 1959's were done, so heritage is just following along.

Griffins · March 9, 2008 1:27PM

<< Anyone doing any player master sets? chrome, refractor, black refractor? Maybe mix and auto in there too? Anyone doing the
relic sets or autos sets? >>

I completed the seat relic set, and probably have most or all of the jersey/bat set.
The autos and refractors don't hold much interest for me though, and I'll probably just list them.
I do have a full panel set, that was top of my list.
With the regular set, chromes, variations, sp's, relics, seats, panels, etc it has taken a 3.5" binder and a 2.5"- pretty much the same as '05 with the back variations.

parkerj · March 9, 2008 1:33PM

Thanks to the many great traders here: JoeStalin, Goose3, Mdkuom, TNP777, Pharber, Nam812, 517, Brian26, Magellan, BigRedMachine, Jmoran19.
I have nearly completed my master set and chrome/refractor mixed set.
Only 3 more needed.

Available for trade:

Chrome (#/1959): 94x2 89 86 82 71 69 66 63 55 54 53 46 44 39 30 26

Short Prints
490 488 486 485 484x2 482 479 477 472 471 470 469 468 467x2 466 465 463 461
454 453x2 451 450 449x2 445x2 443x3 441 436 434x2 432 431 426x2

Panels - many
Relics - many clubhouse collection

Wants:

JOHAN SANTANA Variation
Chrome or Refractor (no preference): 93 67 64

Thanks in advance.

joestalin · March 9, 2008 3:19PM

For those of you who didn't have enough to do, here are links to most of the big past heritage release discussions! Big thanks to
CU for keeping these!

01 Heritage

02 Heritage

03 Heritage

04 Heritage

The Official 2005 Heritage Post

The Official 2006 Heritage Post

The Official 2007 Heritage Post

The Official 2008 Heritage Post

As you can see the first few years were sparse as far as collectors. 2005 was the first year for an all out blow out of traders. If we based
it on previous posts, the official 2009 heritage post will be due up any day now and will contain more than 100 posts by next month
and by Feb of 2009 will have more than 700 posts and will most likely break the 2,000 post mark.

I think a certain post on the 01 list rings the loudest....talking about fickle modern day card collectors and the longevity of heritage..."only
time will tell"

how true

Have Fun
Kevin

TNP777 · March 9, 2008 4:26PM

Thanks for the links, Kevin. The 2005 Heritage thread was when I passed from lurker to contributing member here on CU. Lots of good memories there. A few names in that thread that I don't see much of anymore. Anyone seen John Basilone or Dan (softparade)?

Griffins · March 9, 2008 4:57PM

Talked to Basilone tonite, he's buried in work. Haven't spoken with Dan (Softparade) in about a month but I believe he is in the process of moving and I think just had a baby. Both seemed to be doing well but neither had plans to make a big push on Heritage this year, at least when I spoke to them about it.

Pharber · March 10, 2008 1:07AM

Here is an update list of trade material, needs and availables.

Thanks to all the traders during the weekend!

This is my want list:

NAPs: 5, 15
SPs: 11, 436, 447, 475, 485
Chromes (to # of 1959)
2, 10, 11, 13, 15, 18, 24, 28, 31, 32, 36, 37, 40, 41, 42, 43, 58, 61, 72, 74, 75, 78, 81, 84, 86, 94, 96, 97
Green backs: 2, 12, 28, 196, 224, 333
Black backs: 3 (twice), 58, 91, 150, 228 (twice).

This is what I have available for trade

NAPs: 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
T&N: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10
Flashbacks: 4, 5, 6, 7, 10
News Flashbacks: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7
SPs: 231, 409, 428, 431, 432, 435, 438, 441, 442, 444, 446, 449, 450, 458, 459, 461, 462, 467, 471, 473, 474, 477, 449, 480, 481, 487, 488, 489, 495, 497
Chromes (to # of 1959) 8, 9, 23, 35, 87, 89, 99
Chromes (to # of 559) 4, 6, 16, 17, 25, 32, 35, 44, 46, 54,55, 57, 66, 73, 74, 79, 87
Green Backs: too many to list
Black Backs: too many to list

TZAHL · March 10, 2008 1:36AM

Cases are at the PO! Ripping will commence tonight!

joestalin · March 10, 2008 1:44AM

There is going to be a heritage hurricane over at Travis' house tonight!!!!

Remember the gum only lasts a few packs so pace yourself!

Kevin

nam812 · March 10, 2008 1:55AM

<< Remember the gum only lasts a few packs so pace yourself! >>

I've got over 500 pieces if anyone needs any.

five7teen · March 10, 2008 2:03AM

The look on my 4 year old's face when he saw the piles of gum that were accumulating on my desk was priceless...

jlzinck · March 10, 2008 2:25AM

I got 488 man. I'll put it aside for you or can give to Tom to give to you. Lemme know

<< Here's my complete breakdown of the case I ripped

I haven't seperated my SP dupes from the rest of my dupes yet but all cards are sorted.

Autographs – 1 (blue ink)
Autographed relics (# to 25) – 2 (both redemptions)
Clubhouse Collection Relics – 9
Clubhouse Collection Dual Relics – 1
Stadium Seat Relics - 1
Variations – 2 (Smoltz & Santana)
Black Chrome – 0
Chrome refractor – 10
Chrome – 35
’59 Buybacks - 6
Ad Panels – 12 (all different)

All insert sets – complete
Black Back set – complete
Master set – 3 SPs needed (447, 485, 488) >>

TZAHL · March 10, 2008 3:01AM

Ya, I think I may sort and binder as I go so I can enjoy the opening process for a longer time. You know you gotta pace yourself!!!!

HeritageAddict · March 10, 2008 3:06AM

Good plan Travis, when you look up and see the mountain of empty boxes, wrappers, and gum and no more boxes it just kind of leaves you with an empty feeling inside.....makes you want to order another case.

packman · March 10, 2008 3:40AM

Has anybody come across a team card retail variation. Since there are no cut autos in retail and, in prior years, the checklists varied between retail and hobby, I was wondering if anybody has come across a variation (retail - no cut autos listed or Target/Walmart specific that show the T205s or Perez subsets)? I have opened a few boxes and have not seen any differences. However, I have not come across a retail version of the last team card.

sdwetzel · March 10, 2008 7:09AM

Hi,
I'm Scott and have gotten hooked on Heritage the last few years. I love the cards.

This is the first year that i broke down and bought a case of Heritage. I pulled 2 autos
from my case, Bob Blaylock & Vito Valentinetti, nothing much else that was too great.

I have a question that hopefully someone can answer. One or two of my boxes had
cards that were damaged. I'm not sure what happened. Does anybody know what i have to
do to get Topps to replace these. I have 125 to send back and would prefer to just send 1 package.

Thanks,
Scott

The Official 2008 TOPPS HERITAGE Thread

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