The Official 2008 TOPPS HERITAGE Thread

ArchStanton · February 28, 2008 1:02PM

I blew it! I was on the wagon for nearly five months. I broke down. I checked the local shops near my office. The first one was a vintage goldmine. The second had Heritage for $57. I bought two boxes. I have not opened the panels or the one buyback. Here are the refractors and GU I pulled.

F1ferrari · February 28, 2008 1:05PM

Shawn, If I were you, I'd go ahead and file the complaint with the CC. It can't hurt, and that way the CC company will force Paypal to put the money back in your account. Your CC will protect their interests, and that will help you.

HeritageAddict · February 28, 2008 1:07PM

I know what you mean, I've been on the wagon since A&G, but no more and at $57 a box I would have ended up with all they had.

sarge · February 28, 2008 1:08PM

Hello has anyone gotten official confirmation on the SP's. I am having a hard time determining which are which. The Black backs fall 1 per pack. And the Autos are as hard to get as last year.... Ouch!!!!

TNP777 · February 28, 2008 1:10PM

Sarge - here's your SP list:

11 luke scott
231 kevin gregg
315 jacque jones
381 casey blake
409 jon lester
426 kyle lohse
427 doug davis
428 ian snell/matt capps/tom gorzelanny/paul maholm
429 miguel batista
430 chien-ming wang
431 jeff salazar
432 yadier molina
433 adam wainwright
434 scott kazmir
435 adam dunn
436 ryan freel
437 jhonny peralta
438 kazuo matsui
441 emil brown
442 gary sheffield
443 jake peavy
444 scott rolen
445 kason gabbard
446 aaron hill
447 felipe lopez
448 dan uggla
449 willy taveras
450 chipper jones
451 josh anderson
452 chris young/justin upton/eric byrnes
453 braden looper
454 brandon inge
455 brian giles
456 corey patterson
457 los angeles dodgers
458 sean casey
459 pedro feliz
461 chone figgins
462 kyle kendrick
463 tony pena
464 marcus giles
465 augie ojeda
466 micah owings
467 ryan theriot
468 shawn green
469 frank thomas
470 lenny dinardo
471 jose bautista
472 manny corpas
473 kevin millwood
474 kevin youkilis
475 jose contreras
477 julio lugo
479 tony larussa all star
480 jim leyland all star
481 derrek lee all star
482 justin morneau all star
483 orlando hudson all star
484 brian roberts all star
485 miguel cabrera all star
486 mike lowell all star
487 j.j. hardy all star
488 carlos guillen all star
489 ken griffey jr. all star
490 vladimir guerrero all star
491 alfonso soriano all star
492 ichiro all star
493 matt holliday all star
494 magglio ordonez all star
495 brian mccann all star
496 victor martinez all star
497 brad penny all star
498 josh beckett all star
499 cole hamels all star
500 justin verlander all star

nam812 · February 28, 2008 1:20PM

Here are boxes 4, 5, and 6:

Box 4
Miguel Tejada jersey

Box 5
Johnny Damon bat
Johan Santana Met variation

Box 6
Jim Edmonds jersey
another Carlos Beltran bat

joestalin · February 28, 2008 1:26PM

I'm hard at work putting a complete panel checklist together. It is going pretty well but I need more info. It does appear that they
are linking up and have a specific batting order.

Keep the rips coming!

Kevin

TNP777 · February 28, 2008 1:29PM

<< Here are boxes 4, 5, and 6:

Box 5
Johnny Damon bat
Johan Santana Met variation >>

Very nice, Nick. That's two pulled in our little group. That gives me hope that they're not going to be super rare, cuz unlike the Gordon cutout debacle, I won't consider my set done without one.

kmnorton · February 28, 2008 1:31PM

Shawn and Craig, don't worry one bit about kvetching. You won't find more sympathetic and helpful people.

To deny/scam a dude his Heritage is more than just not right! I do believe there is a Canto deep in Dante's Hell for people like that.

parkerj · February 28, 2008 1:32PM

Nice work, Nick.

I've ripped 4 boxes from the case i got from LRcards.

box 1: 4 chromes, 1 refractor, pedro relic
box 2: 3 chromes, 1 refractor NO RELIC
box 3: Only 7 cards per pack. Luckily the missing card was the black back - every time. 4 chromes, 1 refractor, edmonds relic.
box 4: only 7 cards per pack (missing black backs again). But in that box I pulled two autos! johnny o'brien #58/59, and a freddy sanchez redemption. Also included in that box was an ernie banks flashback relic and 3 chromes (jeter) + 1 refractor (dice-k). Talk about a hot box! In fact the banks relic was in the same pack as the redemption.

So out of 8 boxes so far, I've been stiffed on 2 boxes (no relic or auto) and on 2 other boxes I've been stiffed 24 cards. Topps will be getting a letter.

I've had several 8-card packs that had 2 black backs, as well as one pack that had 2 chromes in it. I'll take that kind of randomness anyday.

I have 8 boxes to go - tomorrow is another day.

Kevin I'll compile the panel info after all boxes have been opened.

Peace brothers.

parkerj · February 28, 2008 1:33PM

How do you know if you have $200 or $2000 protection? Also, if I paid via a balance in my paypal account, does that preclude me from filing via my CC company?

F1ferrari · February 28, 2008 1:39PM

Jim, I'd bet that if the money was in your Paypal account, that will have to be recovered from this seller's account before you'll see a refund. If part of the payment was from a CC, you would be covered for that part of the money from them also.

kmnorton · February 28, 2008 1:42PM

Anybody else notice how cool Ichiro looks in all his Heritage cards (OK, his regular one last year was not so good)? His All-Star one this year is great. Same with his regular one in '06.

nam812 · February 28, 2008 1:44PM

A lot of my cards have crimp marks on the top of them. I guess the crimper that seals the packs must have caught them.

TNP777 · February 28, 2008 1:45PM

Hey - has anyone pulled an extra #500 justin verlander All Star? My buddy & I busted a total of 26 boxes, and didn't pull a single one.

five7teen · February 28, 2008 1:46PM

<< Anybody else notice how cool Ichiro looks in all his Heritage cards (OK, his regular one last year was not so good)? His All-Star one this year is great. Same with his regular one in '06. >>

I think his cards are generally pretty cool, but you're right, compared to many this year, his AS is very cool. Dan Haren - not so much...

kuhlmann · February 28, 2008 1:46PM

Hey - has anyone pulled an extra #500 justin verlander All Star? My buddy & I busted a total of 26 boxes, and didn't pull a single one

i got 1 in 6 boxes.

in 6 boxes i just noticed im missing his thrills card though..

joestalin · February 28, 2008 1:47PM

Whoa Jim...Id take a few shorted cards for two autos and those chromes!

As far as the protection on paypal. I believe it depends of the reputation of the seller. If he had a large feedback number on ebay
chances are he is insured for 2K. I believe it shows up on the auction screen.

Kevin

five7teen · February 28, 2008 1:56PM

Box number 7 finally yielded a relic other than a jersey.... and it's the Mick! Box number 7, the Mick - coincidence? I think not...

TNP777 · February 28, 2008 2:20PM

ummmm, you guys might want to check your #440 John Smoltz cards. If you've got an extra of the card on the left, I'd very much like one.

ArchStanton · February 28, 2008 2:24PM

I'm sure others here have noticed that when all of your numbers are in the same position from sorting, say the upper right corner, not all of the horizontal cards go the same way. I know that will give some guys fits when it comes to putting the cards in pages and a binder.

five7teen · February 28, 2008 2:32PM

Any more story on the Smoltz Geordie?

F1ferrari · February 28, 2008 2:35PM

The Smoltz is probably right there with the Santana, a variation. We've had, what, 20 or so in the last few year's sets? These are probably the first 2 discovered.

joestalin · February 28, 2008 2:40PM

uh oh, looks like the set is getting bigger!

Kevin

TNP777 · February 28, 2008 2:42PM

<< Any more story on the Smoltz Geordie? >>

From my OBC friend Chris Stufflestreet's site, "Perhaps the best known card of the '59 set is #440 of Lew Burdette for two reasons. First, Topps spelled his first name as "Lou," an error they never corrected. Second, Burdette had some fun with the Topps photographer; when posing for his picture, the right-handed pitcher grabbed teammate Warren Spahn's glove and posed as a lefty (According to the story, Spahn posed as a right-hander with Burdette's glove but Topps never used the photo). According to Topps legend Sy Berger in an interview, the picture got past Topps' proofreaders, but didn't fool hundreds of kids who wrote in to let them know they messed up."

Looks like Topps is paying homage to the original. I really hope this is not super rare, because that's not gonna make Heritage collectors happy, at least not this one. If you're gonna do stuff like that, at least make it so that your very loyal fan base can somewhat easily complete the set.

Griffins · February 28, 2008 2:49PM

Anyone know how many ad panels there are possible?

nam812 · February 28, 2008 2:52PM

I have 10 different ones so far.

joestalin · February 28, 2008 3:14PM

Geordie..thanks for the history!

Im on the ad panels right now, if you can list your panel players from left to right that would help. I have determined that all
the panels are of players not on the SP list.

Kevin

kmnorton · February 28, 2008 3:18PM

Phew on that fact, Kevin.

Nice hit, Jason. Are you saying it was the cut?

Griffins · February 28, 2008 3:51PM

Kevin, it looks like each player can appear left, right and center on a panel. So it's going to be a massive set to complete.
I've got close to 300 panels coming so far, wonder how close that will get me.

nam812 · February 28, 2008 4:30PM

OK here is my tally from the 12 boxes in my first case:

Buy Backs - 6 all unopened.
Panels - 12 different.
Variations - Santana as a Met.
SPs - 72 out of 75.
Inserts - 44 out of 45.
Chromes - 35 of which 34 are different.
Refractors - 9 different.
Black Refr. - Matt Kemp.
CC's - 12 of which 11 are different (all common except for Ryan Howard).
Blue Ink - Carl Erskine.
Red Ink - None.
Flasback Relic - Ernie Banks seat.
Autograph Relic - Freddy Sanchez Redemption #ed/25

Last year I didnt have such great pulls from heritage, so this definitely helps even that out some.

zep33 · February 28, 2008 7:05PM

nice case Nick

here's a binder label i just scanned and sized up

BunchOBull · February 28, 2008 8:07PM

I won't have my first boxes of Heritage until either tonight or Saturday. I'm not going to go crazy over this set, but I will build the base set and SPs. I'm looking forward to the rip, though I'm not expecting anything spectacular from it. Good luck to everyone and nice pulls thus far.

nam812 · February 28, 2008 9:08PM

OK, I'm up bright and early to start case 2. I will only be opening 6 boxes from this case, so I will post the results 2 boxes at a time. Here are boxes 1 and 2, and they will be pretty hard for me to top:

Box 1
Miguel Cabrera jersey
Mickey Mantle seat relic

Box 2
Blue Ink Bob Blaylock
Brooks Robinson seat relic

parker95 · February 28, 2008 9:14PM

Wow Nick!! What a great start!

Craig in Texas

zep33 · February 28, 2008 9:25PM

<< OK, I'm up bright and early to start case 2. I will only be opening 6 boxes from this case, so I will post the results 2 boxes at a time. Here are boxes 1 and 2, and they will be pretty hard for me to top:

Box 1
Miguel Cabrera jersey
Mickey Mantle seat relic

Box 2
Blue Ink Bob Blaylock
Brooks Robinson seat relic >>

very nice - bet you open the other 6

nam812 · February 28, 2008 9:42PM

Thanks Mike. No, I wont be opening the other 6 boxes because I promised them to a board member that was having trouble locating boxes at a fair price.

perkdog · February 28, 2008 9:55PM

Guys I am in the market for a Manny Ramirez/David Ortiz base card and a Jacoby Ellsbury chrome card. PM me if you have an extra you want to sell. Also I have 2 Matt Cain and 1 Brian Bannister Chrome card for anyone that wants them, also a Richie Sexson relic card to give away.

Another card I have is an 07 Relic Johan Santana Jersey card to anyone that might want it, just LMK and I will send it free of charge..

nam812 · February 28, 2008 10:07PM

Heritage sure can be a fickle lady, after a stellar start, here are boxes 3 and 4:

Box 3
No Auto or relic

Box 4
No Auto or relic

I guess Topps thought I did too well in the first two boxes. Oh well, on to boxes 5 and 6, and then some serious sorting.

nam812 · February 28, 2008 11:08PM

Well my 18 boxes are done, and I am still 1 insert away from my master set. NAP 2 is stopping me from completion so far. Nothing great to report in boxes 5 and 6 of case 2, just basic CC's.

Here is my final tally from all 18 boxes:

Buy Backs - 9 (all still unopened).
Panels - 17 different and 1 duplicate.
Black Backs - 2 complete 110 cards sets (almost a 3rd set too).
Variations - Santana as a Met.
SPs - 144 total (1 complete set of 75).
Inserts - 44 out of 45.
Chromes - 54 chromes - 40 different, 12 duplicate, and 2 tripicate.
Refractors - 14 different.
Black Refr. - Matt Kemp.
CC's - 15 - 13 different and 2 duplicates. (all common except for Ryan Howard).
Blue Ink - Carl Erskine and Bob Blaylock.
Red Ink - None.
Flasback Relic - Ernie Banks seat, Mickey Mantle seat, and Brooks Robinson seat.
Autograph Relic - Freddy Sanchez Redemption #ed/25

Knopfler · February 28, 2008 11:16PM

Three boxes opened so far. 2 Clubhouse, 2 Seats, 1 Buyback (still unopened).

F1ferrari · February 28, 2008 11:46PM

I know this is going to sound like a stupid question, but for all the black backs is there also a green back? I'm watching all the auctions on eBay, and I've seen all combinations of 'sets' being offered: 315, 425, and 425 with 110 black back versions. With the black back cards I got in my 2 boxes, I didn't get a corresponding green back, but that's only after 2 boxes.

five7teen · February 28, 2008 11:56PM

<< Hey - has anyone pulled an extra #500 justin verlander All Star? My buddy & I busted a total of 26 boxes, and didn't pull a single one. >>

I think I have an extra Geordie, I'll add it to the Geordie pile.

five7teen · February 28, 2008 11:57PM

<< Phew on that fact, Kevin.

Nice hit, Jason. Are you saying it was the cut? >>

Alas no Kurt - even a dimwit like me would have figured out how to scan that for you guys...

nam812 · February 29, 2008 12:09AM

Not one hall of famer or star buyback on eBay. Very strange. Topps must have only inserted commons because with all the case breakers one would have surely come out by now.

rugbymarine · February 29, 2008 12:17AM

<< Not one hall of famer or star buyback on eBay. Very strange. Topps must have only inserted commons because with all the case breakers one would have surely come out by now. >>

I was thinking the exact same thing. Someone on here got a Hank Bauer, and that's the best one i've seen so far.

five7teen · February 29, 2008 12:21AM

<< Not one hall of famer or star buyback on eBay. Very strange. Topps must have only inserted commons because with all the case breakers one would have surely come out by now. >>

Between that and the auto list this year, it seems that Topps has gone with a "cost-out" focus...

Knopfler · February 29, 2008 12:34AM

When it comes to disputing a paypal purchase through your CC company, will Paypal suspend your account or do anything negative to it?

joestalin · February 29, 2008 12:43AM

the buy backs have been a disappointment. I thought it
might mske up for the weak auto checklist, but we all
know that isn't the case.

I'm board at work, someone post some scans!

-kevin

F1ferrari · February 29, 2008 12:45AM

<< When it comes to disputing a paypal purchase through your CC company, will Paypal suspend your account or do anything negative to it? >>

They shouldn't. It's just another level of safety you're granting yourself. I think most CC companies have a longer dispute period than Paypal's 45 days, it's as long as 6 months in some cases.

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