The Official 2008 TOPPS HERITAGE Thread

stormsurge · January 16, 2008 4:58AM

I've heard Feb. 28th...

ajw · January 16, 2008 5:39AM

Anyone know which cards are the Baseball Thrills subset? Any scans, yet?

parker95 · January 17, 2008 11:52AM

I know there has been a lot of excitement for the upcoming release of Topps Heritage but now I am going to play devil's advocate. Don't get me wrong I am really looking forward to the 2008 Topps Heritage but I hope they do something to give it a little punch. I mean has anyone seen the AUTOGRAPH LIST???? If you look at the list the first 37 are in alphabetical order. I think that Topps was looking at this list of 37 and thought that they should throw in more names so they add 9 more to the weak lineup which does not improve the list by much. In my opinion, the 46 subjects are very weak and it seems that every year the autograph list gets weaker and weaker. Where's Ernie Banks? Duke Snider? Bob Gibson? Brooks Robinson? Willie Mays? Hank Aaron?

REAL ONE AUTOGRAPHED CARDS

Mike Baxes
Charlie Beamon
Zeke Bella
Bob Blaylock
Gary Blaylock
Jim Bolger
Tom Carroll
Phil Clark
Solly Drake
Carl Erskine
Bob Giallombardo
Eddie Haas
Russ Heman
Billy Hunter
Randy Jackson
Ted Kazanski
Chick King
Ken Lehman
Morrie Martin
Bob Martyn
Les Moss
Don Mueller
Johnny O'Brien
Herb Plews
J.W. Porter
Tom Qualters
Bill Renna
Lou Skizas
Bob Smith
Bob Speake
George Susce
Lee Tate
Dick Tomanek
Vito Valentinetti
Preston Ward
Gus Zernial
George Zuverink
Minnie Minoso
Yogi Berra
Luis Aparicio
Bill Mazeroski
Joba Chamberlain
Freddy Sanchez
Travis Hafner
Aramis Ramirez
Scott Podsednik

Any thoughts from the group????

Craig in Texas

stormsurge · January 17, 2008 12:06PM

Agree it does look weak

joestalin · January 17, 2008 12:20PM

The autograph checklist has only gotten weaker, but we can thank some heritage additions for that..namely cut autos and
real 1959 cards, both of which cost money, so I guess they saved money by avoiding the expensive signers. Also I believe
Mays and Aaron are off limits except to DLP.

If you also want to get more mad, look at the odds, they started at 1:152 in 2001, now they are almost twice that. You will probably
go and entire case without pulling one...OUCH

Kevin

CubsFan41 · January 17, 2008 1:07PM

Very weak auto list indeed. Last year I bought a case and eight boxes with no ink.

joestalin · January 18, 2008 1:59PM

I just got back and email from Clay Luraschi at topps. I asked him about the box toppers and he said that while each card
won't have the same quantity, there will be multiple issues of cards like Mantle.

Pretty decent news!

Kevin

TNP777 · January 18, 2008 2:18PM

<< <i>I just got back and email from Clay Luraschi at topps. I asked him about the box toppers and he said that while each card
won't have the same quantity, there will be multiple issues of cards like Mantle.

Pretty decent news!

Kevin >>

Wow, really? Topps is going to put out some Mickey Mantle cards? Yippee! I think I could go the rest of my life without seeing another Mantle card issued. This news is about as earth-shaking as Upper Deck announcing they're going to start this new program called "redemptions."

joestalin · January 18, 2008 2:24PM

no they meant the original 59 topps cards...I was wondering if they were going to put out any of the big names, and
they said they were. These are not inserts, but real 59 topps

Kevin

TNP777 · January 18, 2008 2:29PM

ah, thanks for clarifying that for me, Kevin. Guess I just glossed over where you were talking about box toppers. I still could go the rest of my life without more modern Mantle inserts.

Seriously, Upper Deck should check into that redemption idea. Might just be what their company needs to set themselves apart from the rest of the industry.

parker95 · January 19, 2008 2:04AM

Hey Kevin,

Did Clay give any reasoning as to why they are going to ruin these "original" 1959's by placing a foil stamp on them? Since I am still working on my 1959 set, I would really want the opportunity to build on my 1959 set (even if I get strictly commons). I am getting 6 cases which means I should be getting 36 of these originals. I wouldn't be able to use them in my set if they are stamped but I guess I could trade them....

Craig in Texas

86nova · January 19, 2008 7:35AM

As opposed to starting a new thread, I thought I would add here. Am looking to complete the NAP sub-set from the 01 Topps Heritage. Cards needed are: 3- A-Rod, 5-Junior, 6- Chipper Jones, 13- Helton, and 15- Maddux. Please PM me if you would be willing to sell any. Thanks--Craig in Ohio

parkerj · January 19, 2008 11:47AM

Craig Nova - pm sent.

magellan · January 20, 2008 10:44PM

Ok guys, this is the one that needs to be on page 1. Happy 2008 Heritage to all !

magellan · January 22, 2008 4:44AM

An FYI.......just got an email from Jack Lockwood (lockwood108). He will NOT be carrying Heritage this year so that inexpensive retail venue is gone.

Dave

parker95 · January 31, 2008 9:31AM

Anyone have any more new detailed information about the 1959 Topps Originals to be inserted in the boxes that has not already been discussed here?

Craig in Texas

MDCards · January 31, 2008 10:52AM

Anybody else notice that '08 Base sets and master sets are already 'available'? Did sellers do this before the '07 release? I also see that there are a few additional box/case sellers over the last week or so. As noted earlier, very wide price range this year. I usually use Blowout, but I don't think so this time unless their prices come down.

parker95 · January 31, 2008 9:14PM

Yes, I do not understand why Blowout is so much more expensive this year. I am getting mine for $550 a case and Blowout is $100+ more than this!

Craig in Texas

nam812 · February 2, 2008 9:41PM

Less than 4 weeks away now. It's a wonderful time of the year.

F1ferrari · February 2, 2008 9:45PM

I'm still up in the air about how I want to attack this years set. Should I buy a case, a half case, or just a few boxes and go from there? I can't wait, the anticipation is killing me!

nam812 · February 3, 2008 12:28AM

Im getting myself prepared by finally getting my 2006 Topps Heritage set into a binder. Didnt really like the set as I was opening a retail case of 2006 last year after finishing my 2007 set, but now taking the time to put them into a binder has made them grow on me a little.

Pharber · February 6, 2008 11:34AM

The entire checklist is listed -- finally -- on the Topps website. Of the 500 base cards, there are some changes. A quick look at the chromes seems to indicate a good bunch of players on the list.

Pharber · February 6, 2008 11:51AM

Another quick look at the checklist reveals some interesting cut signature cards

Mantle, Ashburn, Mathews, Burdette, Drysdale, Clemente, Wynn, Fox, Allison and Jensen.

Wouldn't mind finding them in a pack!

mudflap02 · February 6, 2008 12:47PM

I don't see how manufacturers can use the excuse that cut signatures add much to the cost of production. Especially for a product like Heritage, where each is a 1/1, I would be surprised if Topps has spent more than $1000 TOTAL in acquiring the signatures for every cut ever released in Heritage. They offset that by selling a case and a half. I would imagine that it costs more for them to produce a complete 110 card chrome set that to produce 1 cut auto card.

nam812 · February 6, 2008 12:48PM

Seems like a pretty strong chrome list this year.......if there are no last minute changes.

Aaron Rowand
Adam LaRoche
Albert Pujols
Alex Rios
Alex Rodriguez
Andre Ethier
Andrew Miller
B.J. Ryan
B.J. Upton
Barry Zito
Ben Sheets
Billy Butler
Billy Wagner
Brad Penny
Brandon Phillips
Brandon Webb
Brian Bannister
Brian McCann
Carlos Delgado
Chase Utley
Chien-Ming Wang
Chipper Jones
Chris Young
Chris Young
Clay Buchholz
Cole Hamels
Curt Schilling
Daisuke Matsuzaka
David Ortiz
David Wright
Derek Jeter
Derrek Lee
Dontrelle Willis
Eric Byrnes
Erik Bedard
Fausto Carmona
Felix Hernandez
Francisco Rodriguez
Gary Matthews
Grady Sizemore
Hanley Ramirez
Hideki Matsui
Homer Bailey
Hunter Pence
Ian Kinsler
IchiroSeattle
Ivan Rodriguez
J.J. Putz
Jacoby Ellsbury
James Shields
Jason Isringhausen
Jeff Francis
Jeff Kent
Jimmy Rollins
Joba Chamberlain
Joe Mauer
John Lackey
John Maine
John Smoltz
Jonathan Papelbon
Jorge Posada
Jose Reyes
Jose Valverde
Josh Beckett
Josh Hamilton
Justin Morneau
Justin Upton
Justin Verlander
Kelvim Escobar
Ken Griffey Jr.
Lance Berkman
Lyle Overbay
Magglio Ordonez
Manny Ramirez
Mark Teixeira
Matt Cain
Matt Holliday
Matt Kemp
Miguel Cabrera
Nick Markakis
Prince Fielder
Rich Harden
Rick Ankiel
Robinson Cano
Ronnie Belliard
Roy Halladay
Roy Oswalt
Russell Martin
Ryan Braun
Ryan Zimmerman
Sammy Sosa
Tim Hudson
Tim Lincecum
Todd Helton
Torii Hunter
Trevor Hoffman
Troy Tulowitzki
Ubaldo Jimenez
Vernon Wells
Vladimir Guerrero

mudflap02 · February 6, 2008 12:53PM

Looks really strong - thanks for posting, Nick.

But Sammy Sosa? Sammy freaking Sosa? Heritage Chrome has been berry berry good for Sammy.

joestalin · February 6, 2008 3:19PM

ME LIKE THAT LIST OF CHROMES. Looks like topps listened but where too cheap to put in Bonds or any true rookies.

Kevin

parker95 · February 7, 2008 9:16AM

Any new information on the 1959 original cards??? Are they really going to stamp these? YUCK! I sure would like to see a checklist of these along with quantities made.

Craig in Texas

parkerj · February 7, 2008 10:17AM

No word from topps on the 59 originals, although I think you can count on them being stamped.

That chrome list is darn-near perfect. Makes up for last years stinker.

F1ferrari · February 7, 2008 10:33AM

Hmmm, I might even be interested in the chrome set this year. That's a good looking list right there.

nflhof · February 7, 2008 10:37AM

I was in Target today scanning for somethng to open and I bought blaster of 2007-08 Topps Chrome Basketball. The cards are terrible. They changed the detail and it seems the cards do not have any depth. I can't even read the players first names. I hope they didnt change the chrome in Heritage. Something is different in these.

nam812 · February 7, 2008 11:07PM

19 days left.

Leiascards · February 8, 2008 12:10AM

I too hope the 2007-08 basketball is not a sign of the future on Chrome the football and Baseball issues were good looking cards. In the Basketball they did them on a silver background with silver names. You have to really look to read the names. I bought a blaster and did get 2 Oden rookies, but really hate the cards.

Pharber · February 8, 2008 12:23AM

On the Topps Heritage product information page, I believe the image of Ichiro is a chrome and it really doesn't look bad. I thought the '58 chromes were fine. But I hated the '57s.
I think a lot of it has to do with the card. The '59s (like the '58s) were pretty basic and are actually enhanced by the chrome.

joestalin · February 13, 2008 5:01AM

Alright guys, two weeks from now.................

my birthday.............

more importantly...

08 HERITAGE BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've got sheets and a binder on the stand by. I was just thinking today about the one lone Roger Clemens heritage auto..from
02 I believe....anyone have one?

Kevin

Stone193 · February 13, 2008 7:14AM

<< <i>Alright guys, two weeks from now.................

my birthday.............

more importantly...

08 HERITAGE BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've got sheets and a binder on the stand by. I was just thinking today about the one lone Roger Clemens heritage auto..from
02 I believe....anyone have one?

Kevin >>

My birthday's this month also Kevin!

I just left a deposit with Blowout cards for a case.

The rest will come from Target and/or Wallyworld.

Let the hunt for heritage commence!!!

mike

parker95 · February 13, 2008 12:54PM

Don't buy Heritage from Blowout -- this year for whatever reason they are extremely high on their prices. Most people on this thread are getting cases around the $550-$570 range by using someone else.

Craig in Texas

joestalin · February 13, 2008 2:57PM

I usually like to hit the card shops the first day of release and open a few boxes and try to pull an auto. If I do I pack up shop
and head to the next place. I like to maximize my chances at an auto, plus the difference cases sometimes works out better
when putting a set together. The one thing all of us have is that there will be a HUGE amount of SP's available in trade here.
I'm hoping case busters won't get too many doubles. I think the insert sets will be the toughest thing to put together!

Mike.....glad you are on board this year! Im going to call that you pull a Yogi red auto, third box, third pack!

Kevin

joestalin · February 15, 2008 12:12PM

Blowout has these for 55/box if you buy a case and 58/box for half a case. Is this good? What are you all paying with shipping
per box?

Kevin

parker95 · February 15, 2008 1:12PM

Kevin,

I am getting my cases at $550 delivered from a reputable EBay dealer. I would steer clear from Blowout on Heritage -- there are better deals out there!

Craig in Texas

joestalin · February 15, 2008 2:20PM

48 bucks a box..how does anyone make money off that? Does that include shipping?

Kevin

parkerj · February 15, 2008 11:21PM

Kevin, I don't know. My local hobby dealer can't get anywhere near that price - he doesn't understand how they can be that low either.

nam812 · February 15, 2008 11:32PM

Is anyone getting their cases from the eBay seller svu18? That's who I ordered mine from for $550 on eBay, and he now has a bunch of negatives for not delivering other product. I used paypal so I should get a refund, but if he doesn't deliver, then I'm without product.

parkerj · February 15, 2008 11:48PM

Ouch! I bought from him too. yikes!

nam812 · February 15, 2008 11:50PM

Recent feedback for svu18

magellan · February 16, 2008 12:36AM

I ordered from him as well. It looks like he oversold on some of the prebuys....some obviously did get refunds and others got the product, let's hope he actually will have the Heritage.

Let's post any communications from/to him here guys.

Dave

BigRedMachine · February 16, 2008 3:12AM

I paid $589 delivered for my case. I'm with the rest of you, I just hope like hell I get it. I did buy from a different eBay seller. He hasn't been selling much but does have several positives on $1000+ cases the last couple of weeks, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

I was going to start a thread on this, but perhaps a couple of you know how this works. I've never spent more than $200 before on a card or bought more than 3 boxes at once, so losing close to $600 would be a real kick in the pants for me. I am wondering how the paypal thing works.

If I understand it, I have to file a claim within 45 days. Is this correct?? Then I need to upgrade to a dispute within the next 20?? Is this how it works?? I paid for my case on January 18th, meaning 45 days is March 3rd. If Heritage releases February 27th, my seller might not get his cases until the 29th or March 1st, in which case, I wouldn't get mine until the 4th or 5th, even if everything goes well. That puts me a couple of days past the date. Should I do the claim thing the last week of February?? Should I contact the seller and explain I'm not trying to be a jacka$$, just protecting myself and let him know what is going on, that I'll obviously drop the claim and not escalate to the next level upon receipt?? Or should I just do it and not let the seller know and hope I don't upset him?? The deadline for my claim falls on about the same day I should receive, unless he would get his cases before the 27th. I just don't want to get caught with my pants down on this one.

Here's a link to my auction, I don't see many redflags. Text

Glad you're on board this year Stone, and if I haven't said yet, it's great to have you back here. I haven't been around or posted much myself lately.

Kevin, heritage releases on your birthday?? Doesn't get much more appropriate than that does it??

Good luck to all of you, hope we all get our cases and boxes. I missed out on last years after completing '05 and '06, so look forward to doing trades again.

shawn

joestalin · February 16, 2008 3:38AM

You are safe with paypal, but if I understand right, all of you have already pre-paid? I would ticked off if I gave some jerk an
intrest free loan for a month. Did this guy have decent feedback before all the negatives?

Big Red...great to see you again, how is your boy? Ready to pull a black chrome Griff I bet! Yes my birthday will be great this
year!

Kevin

CubsFan41 · February 16, 2008 4:18AM

Now I'm curious. I too paid for a case from him. My payment was made on Jan 6. with paypal. According to ebay, as of today it says I have 5 days to file a dispute. Since this is still a couple weeks away from release will I still be able to get my money back or have some paypal protection should something go wrong? Also, does anyone know when retail cases will be available and any good sources?

nam812 · February 16, 2008 4:42AM

I think the time frame does come into play here. That's why I waited until Jan. 22nd to purchase my case from svu18 with paypal. You may want to file before the 45 days expire "just in case". You can always undo it when the case shows up.

The Official 2008 TOPPS HERITAGE Thread

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