1984 Donruss Baseball - the unofficial but legal thread

BrentR · December 30, 2007 9:48AM

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Ichiro51fan · December 30, 2007 9:52AM

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Ichiro51fan · December 30, 2007 9:58AM

Thanks Brent... I almost had a heart attack on that one. $26 right up until the last second. I would have felt especially bad since I was selling this on consignment for Piman58 and I know he was expecting at least $100 for it. I too would be really curious to see what Upsala's max is on these low pop cards. Seems as though he has unlimited funds

Piman58 · December 30, 2007 10:07AM

Thanks Ichiro, I too was nervous as the time dwindled. Brent, thanks for bidding, I was hoping you might have been able to win this one.
Any significance to 177.77?

The Hickey was the only 10 I have received from PSA. I will have to look at my other 84's for possible submission before upsaallamerican
completes his set.

ArnyVee · December 30, 2007 10:36AM

With upsalaallamerican paying what he's paying for 10s, I'm very tempted to put my low pop 10s for sale.

But, now with Brent making the moves that he's making on the set, I think that the competition might keep me going!

But, those prices sure are tough to pass up.

BrentR · December 31, 2007 2:50AM

I know what you mean Arny. These prices could add up quickly on a few 1 of 1's. But I've worked so hard to get to this point, I think I'm gonna keep mine.

Ichiro, Yeah I bet you were nervous with no movement on that card until a couple of seconds left! And yes, the guy is loaded. He is buying everything.

Piman, you're welcome. Glad you got some good money for that tough card. And 7 is a Biblical number that I always liked, so I try to end all my bids with 77.

And I'll be darned if upsala.. is gonna pass me up!! lol

Ichiro51fan · December 31, 2007 2:57AM

I do a similar thing with my bids (on the rare occasion that I am actually a buyer and not a seller). Since Ichiro is my favorite current player, I almost always end my bids with .51

Gonna be really interesting to see what I get back on my current sub. I only sent 25 cards in but about half were 84 D low pops. I sent this in 2 weeks ago today and just realized that I had not yet rec'd a confirmation e-mail from PSA. So I tracked it on USPS.com and found that the package just arived there this morning... 2 FULL WEEKS from the mailing date! And I live in Oregon... less than 1,000 miles away from PSA, so what the hell took so long USPS? Yet another reason to avoid the PS like the plague during the Christmas season I guess.

BrentR · December 31, 2007 3:58AM

That's cool about the .51 thing Ichirofan.

And boy, I'm glad you said that about your current sub!! I sent one in on the 18th, and hadn't got confirmation and was starting to panic! Thanks! You are so right about avoiding this time of year with our subs!

By the way, do you have Ichiro's '93 Japanese RC's and his Hawaiian cards?

Ichiro51fan · December 31, 2007 8:02AM

Yeah, and my order will probably sit at PSA for another week before they log it in, lol!

Unfortunately, I don't have many Ichiro cards as I really stopped collecting back in 1991-92. I did get a couple of his Topps Rookie cards for a good price but they are not graded. Other than that, I only have a few various more recent cards of his, but nothing to brag about. I've considered looking for some big Ichiro lots on ebay just to try to make a dent and to see some really cool cards that I have never laid eyes on. I'll have to start looking for those again...

ArnyVee · December 31, 2007 11:21AM

Happy New Year '84 Donruss brothers!

Here's to a FANTASTIC and PROSPEROUS 2008! May we all get PSA 10s on ALL of our subs!

ArnyVee · January 1, 2008 2:22AM

I wanted to add the first scans of the new year!

These are the last two cards that I picked up. One is the TOUGH Mario Soto card that Tom traded me and the other is a recent upgrade for me.

BrentR · January 1, 2008 9:37AM

Nice job Arny! And Happy New Year to you too and all the '84D Brotherhood!

ArnyVee · January 4, 2008 11:06AM

Well, had to have my 4,000th post be on the '84 Donruss thread!

Anyone have any updates on any '84 Donruss subs? Mine? Still waiting.

BrentR · January 4, 2008 12:31PM

Very cool Arny!! #4000. 1714 more and you'll tie Nolan! lol '84 D rules! You da man!
No updates. Haven't got my package yet from the subs that I told you the scores on. Busted a box recently and got some really clean cards, but not many that I need. Oh well. I can't believe you haven't gotten yours back yet! Man, that is slow! They finally received my sub that I sent on Dec. 18th! Man that Christmas rush is a doosey! Oh well, at least their safe. None of those were '84 D though.

Spahnfan · January 4, 2008 4:07PM

Arnie, I have gotten back results on a couple of 84 Donruss subs. The first three are mechanical corrections. The next group is what I needed to finish my registry set. I got close. Missed on a few, but there were a few that made up for it. Finally got my Horner in a 9. Numbers 93 to 133 are factory set cards. Half of the 8's I received on the sub were from these factory cards. All came straight from the wrappers to CS1's. That is why I was wondering how the rounding of some corners from the cello's would affect the grades in an earlier post.

1 30574692 1984 DONRUSS 10 DAVE RIGHETTI DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 10
2 31785801 1984 DONRUSS CHECKLIST 1-26 DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 9
3 04702893 1984 DONRUSS 99 CURT WILKERSON N/A 9

1 02230310 1984 DONRUSS 15 LANCE PARRISH DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
2 02230311 1984 DONRUSS 18 RON KITTLE DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
3 02230312 1984 DONRUSS 33 ANGEL SALAZAR N/A 9
4 02230313 1984 DONRUSS 34 KEVIN McREYNOLDS N/A 8
5 02230314 1984 DONRUSS 37 TIM TEUFEL N/A 9
6 02230315 1984 DONRUSS 43 MIKE JEFFCOAT N/A 9
7 02230316 1984 DONRUSS 48 ROBIN YOUNT N/A 9
8 02230317 1984 DONRUSS 49 LANCE PARRISH N/A 9
9 02230318 1984 DONRUSS 50 JIM RICE N/A 9
10 02230319 1984 DONRUSS 52 FERNANDO VALENZUELA N/A 9
11 02230320 1984 DONRUSS 55 GARY CARTER N/A 9
12 02230321 1984 DONRUSS 59 OZZIE SMITH N/A 9
13 02230322 1984 DONRUSS 63 STEVE GARVEY N/A 10
14 02230323 1984 DONRUSS 64 JASON THOMPSON N/A 9
15 02230324 1984 DONRUSS 68 DARRYL STRAWBERRY N/A 9
16 02230325 1984 DONRUSS 71 DAVE STIEB N/A 9
17 02230326 1984 DONRUSS 83 ANDY VAN SLYKE N/A 9
18 02230327 1984 DONRUSS 92 JUAN ESPINO N/A 9
19 02230328 1984 DONRUSS 94 ANDRE THORNTON N/A 9
20 02230329 1984 DONRUSS 96 DON HILL N/A 9
21 02230330 1984 DONRUSS 107 PAUL MOLITOR N/A 10
22 02230331 1984 DONRUSS 120 JOHN CASTINO N/A 9
23 02230332 1984 DONRUSS 129 BERT BLYLEVEN N/A 9
24 02230333 1984 DONRUSS 132 DAN SCHATZEDER N/A 9
25 02230334 1984 DONRUSS 133 RON JACKSON N/A 10
26 02230335 1984 DONRUSS 138 GLENN BRUMMER N/A 10
27 02230336 1984 DONRUSS 142 BRIAN HARPER N/A 9
28 02230337 1984 DONRUSS 148 TODD CRUZ N/A 8
29 02230338 1984 DONRUSS 150 JOHN WOCKENFUSS N/A 9
30 02230339 1984 DONRUSS 182 JOSE CRUZ N/A 9
31 02230340 1984 DONRUSS 202 TIM FLANNERY N/A 9
32 02230341 1984 DONRUSS 248 DON MATTINGLY N/A 9
33 02230342 1984 DONRUSS 248 DON MATTINGLY N/A 8
34 02230343 1984 DONRUSS 255 ANDY HASSLER N/A 9
35 02230344 1984 DONRUSS 257 RUDY LAW N/A 9
36 02230345 1984 DONRUSS 280 KEN FORSCH N/A 9
37 02230346 1984 DONRUSS 286 ALEX TREVINO N/A 9
38 02230347 1984 DONRUSS 294 TONY ARMAS N/A 10
39 02230348 1984 DONRUSS 313 SPIKE OWEN N/A 9
40 02230349 1984 DONRUSS 327 JEFF LAHTI N/A 10
41 02230350 1984 DONRUSS 338 RICK SUTCLIFFE N/A 10
42 02230351 1984 DONRUSS 339 MARK HUISMANN N/A 10
43 02230352 1984 DONRUSS 339 MARK HUISMANN N/A 9
44 02230353 1984 DONRUSS 340 TIM CONROY N/A 10
45 02230354 1984 DONRUSS 355 JOE MORGAN N/A 9
46 02230355 1984 DONRUSS 356 LUIS SALAZAR N/A 9
47 02230356 1984 DONRUSS 357 JOHN CANDELARIA N/A 9
48 02230357 1984 DONRUSS 369 DOUG BAIR N/A 9
49 02230358 1984 DONRUSS 372 JACK FIMPLE N/A 9
50 02230359 1984 DONRUSS 388 CRAIG LEFFERTS N/A 10
51 02230360 1984 DONRUSS 408 DANN BILARDELLO N/A 10
52 02230361 1984 DONRUSS 423 BRIAN DOWNING N/A 9
53 02230362 1984 DONRUSS 433 JODY DAVIS N/A 10
54 02230363 1984 DONRUSS 516 AURELIO LOPEZ N/A 9
55 02230364 1984 DONRUSS 544 DANNY DARWIN N/A 9
56 02230365 1984 DONRUSS 611 MARK CLEAR N/A 10
57 02230366 1984 DONRUSS 628 JOSE DeLEON N/A 9
58 02230367 1984 DONRUSS 642 DAVE ANDERSON N/A 10
59 02230368 1984 DONRUSS 90 JOHN GRUBB N/A 9
60 02230369 1984 DONRUSS 105 DAN PETRY N/A 9
61 02230370 1984 DONRUSS 140 RICH GALE N/A 9
62 02230371 1984 DONRUSS 141 BRETT BUTLER N/A 9
63 02230372 1984 DONRUSS 146 JIM ACKER N/A 9
64 02230373 1984 DONRUSS 181 JOAQUIN ANDUJAR N/A 10
65 02230374 1984 DONRUSS 192 GARY WARD N/A 9ST
66 02230375 1984 DONRUSS 243 DAN DRIESSEN N/A 9
67 02230376 1984 DONRUSS 249 JEFF NEWMAN N/A 9
68 02230377 1984 DONRUSS 279 JEFF REARDON N/A 9
69 02230378 1984 DONRUSS 290 DAVE LaPOINT N/A 9
70 02230379 1984 DONRUSS 292 CHARLIE MOORE N/A 9
71 02230380 1984 DONRUSS 326 OZZIE VIRGIL N/A 9
72 02230381 1984 DONRUSS 336 BOB MEACHAM N/A 9
73 02230382 1984 DONRUSS 360 DAVE KINGMAN N/A 9
74 02230383 1984 DONRUSS 366 FLOYD BANNISTER N/A 9
75 02230384 1984 DONRUSS 373 NEAL HEATON N/A 10
76 02230385 1984 DONRUSS 376 CHARLIE LEA N/A 9
77 02230386 1984 DONRUSS 380 JOHN MIZEROCK N/A 8
78 02230387 1984 DONRUSS 382 MIKE RAMSEY N/A 10
79 02230388 1984 DONRUSS 390 RANDY MOFFITT N/A 9
80 02230389 1984 DONRUSS 457 DENNIS BOYD N/A 9
81 02230390 1984 DONRUSS 458 BUTCH WYNEGAR N/A 10
82 02230391 1984 DONRUSS 521 PAUL SPLITTORFF N/A 9
83 02230392 1984 DONRUSS 533 STEVE TROUT N/A 9
84 02230393 1984 DONRUSS 535 BOB HORNER N/A 9
85 02230394 1984 DONRUSS 542 BROOK JACOBY N/A 10
86 02230395 1984 DONRUSS 554 RUSTY STAUB N/A 9
87 02230396 1984 DONRUSS 554 RUSTY STAUB N/A 9
88 02230397 1984 DONRUSS 566 LARRY McWILLIAMS N/A 9
89 02230398 1984 DONRUSS 579 RICH GEDMAN N/A 9
90 02230399 1984 DONRUSS 587 BILL RUSSELL N/A 10
91 02230400 1984 DONRUSS 607 HUBIE BROOKS N/A 9
92 02230401 1984 DONRUSS 630 DARNELL COLES N/A 9
93 02230402 1984 DONRUSS 8 DAVE DRAVECKY DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
94 02230403 1984 DONRUSS 23 MIKE SCHMIDT DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
95 02230404 1984 DONRUSS 57 REGGIE JACKSON N/A 9
96 02230405 1984 DONRUSS 105 DAN PETRY N/A 9
97 02230406 1984 DONRUSS 109 NEIL ALLEN N/A 8
98 02230407 1984 DONRUSS 140 RICH GALE N/A 10
99 02230408 1984 DONRUSS 158 BOB BOONE N/A 9
100 02230409 1984 DONRUSS 181 JOAQUIN ANDUJAR N/A 8
101 02230410 1984 DONRUSS 198 STEVE LAKE N/A 9
102 02230411 1984 DONRUSS 243 DAN DRIESSEN N/A 9
103 02230412 1984 DONRUSS 266 DICKIE NOLES N/A 9
104 02230413 1984 DONRUSS 279 JEFF REARDON N/A 9
105 02230414 1984 DONRUSS 290 DAVE LaPOINT N/A 9
106 02230415 1984 DONRUSS 292 CHARLIE MOORE N/A 8
107 02230416 1984 DONRUSS 326 OZZIE VIRGIL N/A 9
108 02230417 1984 DONRUSS 360 DAVE KINGMAN N/A 9
109 02230418 1984 DONRUSS 366 FLOYD BANNISTER N/A 9
110 02230419 1984 DONRUSS 373 NEAL HEATON N/A 9
111 02230420 1984 DONRUSS 376 CHARLIE LEA N/A 9
112 02230421 1984 DONRUSS 380 JOHN MIZEROCK N/A 10
113 02230422 1984 DONRUSS 382 MIKE RAMSEY N/A 9
114 02230423 1984 DONRUSS 390 RANDY MOFFITT N/A 10
115 02230424 1984 DONRUSS 424 BRITT BURNS N/A 10
116 02230425 1984 DONRUSS 457 DENNIS BOYD N/A 10
117 02230426 1984 DONRUSS 458 BUTCH WYNEGAR N/A 10
118 02230427 1984 DONRUSS 501 JERRY KOOSMAN N/A 8
119 02230428 1984 DONRUSS 521 PAUL SPLITTORFF N/A 8
120 02230429 1984 DONRUSS 533 STEVE TROUT N/A 9
121 02230430 1984 DONRUSS 542 BROOK JACOBY N/A 8
122 02230431 1984 DONRUSS 551 DAVE DRAVECKY N/A 9
123 02230432 1984 DONRUSS 562 BRYAN CLARK N/A 9
124 02230433 1984 DONRUSS 566 LARRY McWILLIAMS N/A 9
125 02230434 1984 DONRUSS 567 JEFF LEONARD N/A 10
126 02230435 1984 DONRUSS 577 DALE MURRAY N/A 9
127 02230436 1984 DONRUSS 579 RICH GEDMAN N/A 9
128 02230437 1984 DONRUSS 584 RANCE MULLINIKS N/A 9
129 02230438 1984 DONRUSS 587 BILL RUSSELL N/A 10
130 02230439 1984 DONRUSS 594 SCOTT McGREGOR N/A 9
131 02230440 1984 DONRUSS 627 MATT KEOUGH N/A 9
132 02230441 1984 DONRUSS 629 JIM ESSIAN N/A 9
133 02230442 1984 DONRUSS 630 DARNELL COLES N/A 9
134 02230443 1984 DONRUSS 65 JACK CLARK N/A 10
135 02230444 1984 DONRUSS 88 JOE ALTOBELLI N/A 9
136 02230445 1984 DONRUSS 118 BILL CAUDILL N/A 9
137 02230446 1984 DONRUSS 119 JIM CLANCY N/A 10
138 02230447 1984 DONRUSS 127 ED JURAK N/A 9
139 02230448 1984 DONRUSS 135 KEVIN HICKEY N/A 9
140 02230449 1984 DONRUSS 137 BO DIAZ N/A 10
141 02230450 1984 DONRUSS 169 MIKE FLANAGAN N/A 10
142 02230451 1984 DONRUSS 170 RICK MANNING N/A 9
143 02230452 1984 DONRUSS 171 CHET LEMON N/A 9
144 02230453 1984 DONRUSS 172 JERRY REMY N/A 10
145 02230454 1984 DONRUSS 175 WILLIE WILSON N/A 9
146 02230455 1984 DONRUSS 184 GARY REDUS N/A 9
147 02230456 1984 DONRUSS 186 TONY PENA N/A 9
148 02230457 1984 DONRUSS 215 PAT ZACHRY N/A 9
149 02230458 1984 DONRUSS 232 RAY KNIGHT N/A 10
150 02230459 1984 DONRUSS 260 DAVE RUCKER N/A 9
151 02230460 1984 DONRUSS 298 MIKE DAVIS N/A 10
152 02230461 1984 DONRUSS 332 ALLAN RAMIREZ N/A 9
153 02230462 1984 DONRUSS 370 RAY FONTENOT N/A 10
154 02230463 1984 DONRUSS 471 MILT WILCOX N/A 10
155 02230464 1984 DONRUSS 569 JEFF RUSSELL N/A 9
156 02230465 1984 DONRUSS 581 STEVE YEAGER N/A 9
157 02230466 1984 DONRUSS 636 RICKY NELSON N/A 9

ArnyVee · January 4, 2008 10:45PM

Wow, nearly 40 psa 10s! Nice job!

Especially on the Clancy and M.Wilcox cards! Great job!

Congrats on the Horner too! That's a tough one!

Are any of these for sale/trade? And more importantly, how close are you to finishing the set now?

BrentR · January 5, 2008 2:34AM

Wow Spahnfan! That is an awesome sub! A 10 Wilcox!? Goodness that's impressive. Great job man.

Spahnfan · January 5, 2008 3:51PM

Thanks guys. Overall I was pleased with the sub. I did get a few more 8's than I thought I would get, but some of the other cards made up for it. The Kittle Steel was kind of tough for me to get. I was happy with that one, and of course the Horner, Ramsey, Staub and the Wilcox.

Arny, I am now over 98% on the set. I will never reach the lofty levels of the weighted GPA that you and Brent have achieved, but I hope to raise it a few points before I am done. My duplicates are for trade. Let me put the cards in the set this week and see what extras I have.

BrentR · January 6, 2008 3:46AM

Sounds great Spahnfan! I wouldn't feel bad at all about those few 8's. That was a super sub. 98% is awesome! Maybe I'll have something you need once you get it all logged in.

BrentR · January 6, 2008 4:07AM

Spahnfan, not sure what extras you will have, but I checked and I have a 9 and 10 of the McReynolds RC, and a 9 on the Neil Allen. I also have a 9oc on the #8 Steele, 9oc on the #16 Steele, 9oc or 8 on the Schmidt Steele if you want to fill in percentage on those impossible centering cards.

BrentR · January 6, 2008 4:09AM

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ArnyVee · January 6, 2008 4:29AM

Guys, you can always check my extras by going on my trade/sell set (it's like the 8th current set).

BrentR · January 6, 2008 5:47AM

Yeah Arny, I do have some upgrades for you too. I've just been waiting for you to get your sub back first. I'll check your current list too.

BrentR · January 7, 2008 12:25PM

Well I finally got my sub back! I now have 100% of the set on the Basic and Master, but I can't log in the final card on the Master until I get the Mechanical error sub back. Should have been Steel instead of Steele. Oh well. I have all the cards in the master set except for 11 cards in 9 or 10. 8's and 9oc's on those toughies. I can't wait to get that sub back and post 100% on the master!!(although Arny is on my heels!)

Spahnfan · January 7, 2008 3:55PM

Brent, I checked my duplicates for the cards I still need to finish my Registry set. It looks like I have cards that should get a 9 on all the cards except the 8, 16, and 23 Steele and 47 Murray. Until I get a sub back to see if I still missed on some, I would only like to only trade for these four. The problem is you and Arny do not have these cards for trade. I would love to help you both, and anyone else for that matter, with your sets, but at the same time I want to be able to finish my set. I am not quite sure what to do. Any suggestions?

A related question--if I do want to list duplicates I have for trade, is it permissable to do it on this thread, or should I list them on the Buy-Sell-Trade Forum?

Piman58 · January 8, 2008 12:54AM

next page please

alnavman · January 8, 2008 1:02AM

WOW, congratulations Brent. I hadn't checked the registry listings for awhile and today noticed that there has been a coup and Arny has been overthrown. Don't be too confortable though, I'm sure Arny has something up his sleeve and will soon restore order to the registry!

This is why I like this thread. Everyone seems to be having fun and helping the others out......I had to bail on my set but who knows, sometime down the road I may have to mount another challenge, although getting a complete 10 set is a CHALLENGE!!!

Happy new year everyone.

al.

BrentR · January 8, 2008 1:50AM

Thanks Al! Yeah, it's a challenge all right. Whew! But it's been a lot of fun also. And expensive. lol

Spahnfan, I'm not sure the answer to your question. I do most of my buying/selling on ebay.

Stingray · January 8, 2008 2:50AM

Wow, congrats BrentR at getting to #1!! I have been a long follower and one time collector of this set. That is a high set rating!!

BrentR · January 8, 2008 4:12AM

Thanks Stingray! It's been a lot of fun and I hope to continue working on it over time. I'm sorry you and Al don't collect this set anymore. It's beautiful and brings back great memories.

Come on Al, you know you're feeling the itch! lol You should come back and start collecting it again!

ArnyVee · January 8, 2008 9:47AM

Al, I don't know what happened! I was just sitting there on my throne and I look the other way and...boom! Brent just ran right past me!

But, I'm hoping that I can start chipping away once I get the results of my sub. Quite a few strong ones in there.

Spahn, you can list your dupes here, it's no problem. Us 84 Donruss brothers don't mind getting help along the way!

Spahnfan · January 8, 2008 3:13PM

Thanks Arny. I still have another sub out of 84 Donruss. After I get that back I should have a better idea of what I need and then I will probably list dupllicates.

jayhawke · January 9, 2008 9:51AM

<< <i>As far as POP 7s or above, I wouldn't take the chance on sending them in. Unless they are star or even minor star cards, the serious PSA collectors of this set probably have the commons that are POP 7 or above. >>

Thanks for the information.

ArnyVee · January 9, 2008 9:22PM

You're welcome Jayhawke

Brent, I see that you updated your set and your only a 'mechanical mislabeling fix' away from completing the master set! Congrats on the "basic" set being at 100% though! It sure is going to feel good to have both at 100%! Now, just making sure that you upgrade a few more and you'll be in a league of your own!

BrentR · January 10, 2008 2:29AM

Yeah Arny! It's pretty cool. I sent off the mislabeled card, so hopefully in a few weeks both will be 100%! I know you're right there with me on the percentage once you get your sub back, so you'll probably get complete before I do on the master. At least I got 100% on the basic like you said. I figure I have around 100 cards out of the 689 that are not 10 on the master. I hope you get your sub back soon!

BrentR · January 10, 2008 2:30AM

That emoticon was supposed to be just a big grin. lol

alnavman · January 14, 2008 11:07PM

You probably all have these cards but thought I'd offer just in case someone needs any. I have the following PSA 9's left from my old registry set:

71, 74, 96, 98, 278, 290, 292, 306, 308, 333, 336, 349, 387, 389, 390, 508, 611 and 628

If anyone needs any of them let me know. Otherwise I'll probably just throw them on ebay.

al.

Ichiro51fan · January 15, 2008 5:26AM

Hey guys, sorry I've been away for a while... going through a tough stretch with work and some other things lately and haven't bad much time to check in here. Nice to hear about your succesfull subs Brent. PSA finally logged my order (with about 15 84D low pops)... 1 full month after I mailed it. Pretty discouraging to say the least. I'm just getting a really bad feeling about this sub, even though I probably put more work into these 25 cards than I did for my last 135-card sub. Just seems like I'm on a bad luck swing lately and I'm fearful it will carry over to this sub. On the other hand, it could be a slump-buster and break me out of my funk. Unfortunately, it will probably be well into March before I even know. Ahhhh March... thank god baseball season is almost right around the corner!

BrentR · January 15, 2008 6:36AM

I hear you Ichirofan. My luck with work, etc... has been lousy lately too. I hope both of our situations get better soon. Hopefully your sub will be the start of it. And yes, baseball is around the corner!

BrentR · January 15, 2008 6:36AM

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alnavman · January 16, 2008 9:22PM

As previously mentioned you probably all have these cards but thought I'd offer just in case someone needs any. I have the following PSA 9's left from my old registry set:

71, 74, 96, 98, 278, 290, 292, 306, 308, 333, 336, 349, 387, 389, 390, 508, 611 and 628

If anyone needs any of them let me know by the weekend or they go to ebay.

Don't want to rush these but I am in the process of cleaning out my basement and slowly but surely everything I don't need is going......

al.

BugOnTheRug · January 17, 2008 1:41AM

What do the 84D guys think of the half-grade move? Personally, I don't like it - they can't even get the standard 1-10 correct and consistant at times - how are they going to do this with any consistency on half-points?!?!?

BrentR · January 17, 2008 3:51AM

I agree BOTR, this really sucks. Really bad and unnecessary. The whole collecting community seems to be against it, so who are all these supposed people begging for this?? The only redeeming thing I've read so far is that they aren't doing 9.5. So at least the integrity of 9's and 10's remains intact.

Ichiro51fan · January 17, 2008 4:22AM

Well, since this is my favorite forum, I wanted to post this here first. Amazingly, my 25-card sub popped yesterday (to think, I was so busy yesterday I forgot to check on it)! Maybe they felt bad because they held the thing for 2 weeks before it was logged... who knows. Well, not to the results. Percentage-wise, this was easily the best of the 5 subs I've had to date. Maybe I am finally getting the hang of things... who knows?!?! Without further delay, here they are:

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 03696015 1986 TOPPS 161 JERRY RICE N/A 8
1 03696016 1986 TOPPS 161 JERRY RICE N/A 8
2 03696017 1983 TOPPS 33 JACK O'CONNOR N/A 9
3 03696018 1983 TOPPS 165 DAN DRIESSEN N/A 9
4 03696019 1983 TOPPS 168 JUAN EICHELBERGER N/A 9
5 03696020 1982 TOPPS 21 ORIOLES FUTURE STARS BONNER/RIPKEN/SCHNEIDER 9OC
5 03696021 1982 TOPPS 21 ORIOLES FUTURE STARS BONNER/RIPKEN/SCHNEIDER 8
6 03696022 1982 FLEER 176 CAL RIPKEN JR. N/A 9
7 03696023 1984 DONRUSS MIKE STENHOUSE NO NUMBER ON BACK 10
8 03696024 1984 DONRUSS 24 PEDRO GUERRERO DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
9 03696025 1984 DONRUSS 48 ROBIN YOUNT N/A 9
10 03696026 1984 DONRUSS 56 BUDDY BELL N/A 10
11 03696027 1984 DONRUSS 66 DALE MURPHY N/A 9
12 03696028 1984 DONRUSS 175 WILLIE WILSON N/A 5
13 03696029 1984 DONRUSS 219 STEVE ROGERS N/A 10
14 03696030 1984 DONRUSS 220 JOHN BUTCHER N/A 9
15 03696031 1984 DONRUSS 239 LARRY BOWA N/A 9
16 03696032 1984 DONRUSS 248 DON MATTINGLY N/A 8
17 03696033 1984 DONRUSS 362 MATT YOUNG N/A 9
18 03696034 1984 DONRUSS 605 ALFREDO GRIFFIN N/A 9
19 03696035 1972 TOPPS 441 THURMAN MUNSON N/A 7
20 03696036 1972 TOPPS 500 JOE TORRE N/A 6
21 03696037 1972 TOPPS 655 JERRY GROTE N/A 6
22 03696038 1972 TOPPS 678 STEVE LUEBBER N/A 8
23 03696039 1972 TOPPS 779 TONY CLONINGER N/A 8

My takes:
1- For 84 Donruss, the big one (obviously) is the Rogers 10... a 1/1! I really, really had high hopes for this one and amazingly, they came through! Also got 10's on Stenhouse No# (1/5) and Bell (1/4). Would have rather had the 10's on Wilson and Butcher, but I am by no means complaining... still pretty low pops on these! Got 9's on most of the rest of the 84D, with the exception on the Mattingly and Wilson. The Mattingly was a pull from 12 Racks I ripped a few months back. I assessed this as an 8 myself, so no complaints there. The Wilson 5 simply baffles me... this had a great shot at a 10 and no worse than 9, so obviosuly I must have missed something major (not sure how). Overall, actually a little better than expected with the 84D.

2- The rest: 2 Rices @ 8... expected 7's or 7 & 8 so this is a plus! The 3 '83 Topps 9's are 1/1's with no 10's. We'll see if there's a market for them. The 2 Topps Ripkens were pulled from a Cello box from BBCE a couple of months ago. Grades of 9OC & 8 are about what I expected, so I am pleased. The fleer Ripken 9 was a great surprise! The other 3 I've had graded from my personal collection only got 8, 8 & 7 and I thought this one was no better than any of those. The '72 Topps results were mixed. Happy with the 7 Munson and the 8's on the 2 hi numbers, but was expecting 8's on the Torre and Grote and got 6's.

Overall though, I am really happy with this one! Really only 3 big disappointments with the Griffin, Torre & Grote, but those are probably offset by the better than expected on Ripkens & Rices. The 84D 9's, I hope to at least recoup grading costs. To me though, the Rogers 10 is what made this sub! Can't complain about the other 2 10's either

I guess I will go ahead and continue with my 84D low-pop project a while longer

alnavman · January 17, 2008 4:35AM

as an ex 84D'er I am impressed with your 84 Donruss grades.....way to go. You must have missed a hairline crease on that Wilson....or they dropped it when they received it!! I am waiting on a large submission of 65 Topps cards that I submitted back in December, hopefully any day now

BrentR · January 17, 2008 6:43AM

Nice job Ichirofan! Congrats on that Rogers!! What a tough card!! And the Bell and Stenhouse as well!!

ArnyVee · January 17, 2008 10:13AM

Wow Jim! Great job on the Rogers....is it available for sale/trade?

Also, great job on the Stenhouse and Bell cards as well as that Griffin. For some reason that was a tough one for me to find at one time, but I found three or four (submitted three, I believe) that has shots at 10s. Went from finding none to hittin' the mutha load!

Bill...as far as the 1/2 grades....I don't think that it'll affect us '84 Donruss guys as we go for 9s at minimum. But, I'm not happy overall. As a matter of fact, I've started looking into going with SGC on some non-sport sets that I'm looking to submit. Anyways, I'm not sure that I'm going to have an issue with the 1/2 grades except for the fact that I'm going to be piecing my '57 Topps set again. If they would've done 9.5s....things would be A LOT different and I would be highly unlikely to use them in the future.

alnavman · January 17, 2008 9:26PM

I agree with Arny on the half grading. The sets I collect are all being completed ( or at least I'm trying to complete them) in PSA 9. Now if they had a 9.5 it would be a different answer. I think that this will affect collectors of older sets both ways. If you happen to have a bunch of 8's that appear to be almost 9's it would probably be worth resubmitting.....you could then sell if they go higher and purchase another 8 if your intent is to maintain a "straight 8" set. So you win both ways, a little extra money from selling your 8.5, you repurchase a straight 8 for your collection at hopefully a lower price and have a few bucks left to have a few more cards graded or regraded. I know a lot of folks who have large inventories seem to be against this but I'm small potatoes as far as that goes.....

al.

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