My dealer says tomorrow's the day - I'm contemplating taking the afternoon off work to rip - these posts are making it harder and harder not to do just that! If the first trade list gets posted before I get my case, I may lose it!
8 am wake up 10:30 head to the card store 11 Arrive at the card store and get first crack at a sealed case
rip until I hit something nice pick up pages and album and penny sleeves go to work, thinking about heritage the whole time come back and sort sort sort trade with friends
I am almost finished with my 4th box. I decided to open one of the felt team emblems to scan, and Kaboom - my dear Pirates.
Here are my favorite base cards so far. I am guessing they are base cards due to placement in the pack.
I think someone at Topps does not like Piazza.
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No ink so far. I love the All Star cards. It seems that almost all of them are base cards.
The top row cards are refractors. The ones on the bottom are chrome.
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Jim - I've got a PM out to you, but if anyone else who has ripped can answer this question, please: What are the Group A and Group B relics? I'd like to get those indentified and start picking them off early if I can. Thanks in advance for that info.
I got shipping confirmation on my case, but it won't be here until Wednesday.
OK, just finished my ripping case. Here is the breakdown:
Autos - 1 (Bunning) SPs - ???? - I haven't sorted these yet, so I'm not sure of the short print number range. The yellow player name vars are easy to find, but the yellow team vars will take some investigation. Relics - 7 Total (6 Clubhouse Collection 3 bat, 3 JSY and 1 Flashback Relic Richie Ashburn) double of Omar Vizquel bat Black Chrome - 1 (JD Drew 04/58) Chrome Refractors - 6 Chrome - 27 T&N - 17 FB - 23 NAP - 21 Mantle HR -46 ugh Arod HR - 13 Why the heck did they put these in this set? They are out of place and taking the place of a chrome.
Overall impression: I am happy w/ my case. I pulled a nice auto and the cards look sweet. I love the box toppers. They were a very nice touch. I am disappointed w/ the reuse of some player photos from the 1952 Rookies and Bowman Heritage. But overall I like what I have seen so far.
ugh - I hope someone gets a firm handle on the yellow letter variations, which I don't think are part of the 495-card set. There is speculation from a guy over on the Beckett boards that there may be as many as [i/three variations of some cards??? Yikes!
<< <i>ugh - I hope someone gets a firm handle on the yellow letter variations, which I don't think are part of the 495-card set. There is speculation from a guy over on the Beckett boards that there may be as many as [i/three variations of some cards??? Yikes!
Group A 1:2425 Group B 1:202 Group C 1:67 Group D 1:808
1/2 case so far. No ink.
I am sick of Mickey Mantle. He was great. I get it. Enough already!
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I pulled a Piazza bat as well. They will all be on the trading block. I got through 7 boxes last night. I will rip the rest this evening. I should have a complete trade list this weekend or when the SP list shows up.
If it were not for all of the Mantle and ARod cards, this set would be unbeatable.
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Using EBay as a source for uncovering SPs, etc., it seems as if there are an exorbitant number of yellow variations. In 1958, there were several yellow/white letter variations, but not as many as are appearing on EBay this morning. If Topps holds true to copying its 1958 set, watch for card No. 13. In the 1958 set it was Detroit Tiger pitcher Billy Hoeft. THis year is it not-so coincidentally, another Tiger pitcher, Wilfredo Ledezma. The Hoeft card had THREE VARIATIONS! It was very small, just a triangle by his foot.
A question for you early rippers. . .
Where is the special card in each pack? Last year it was in the middle of deck. The year before it was the second from the end. Is there a consistency this year?
Also, I wouldn't use eBay to get your SP list. I have seen some auctions that list cards listed as SPs, but they don't seem to be inserted at a SP rate. Some dealer may be trying to take advantage of the lack of information about the SPs. Example, folks are listing Andrew Miller and David Ortiz as SPs, but I pulled 4 each of these cards in 1 case. Then again, maybe they are and the colation sucks.
Ok, let's try again. I hope I am not seeing what I am seeing. If you remember the horror of the white cards from the 2006 Bowman Heritage, I am seeing the same thing on the 2007 Topps Heritage. Does anyone else see this happening ? I have not yet seen any TEAM white/yellow, but I have these white/yellow NAME cards 24 30 53 60 61 70 87 98 Regards, Charlie G
<< <i>Ok, let's try again. I hope I am not seeing what I am seeing. If you remember the horror of the white cards from the 2006 Bowman Heritage, I am seeing the same thing on the 2007 Topps Heritage. Does anyone else see this happening ? I have not yet seen any TEAM white/yellow, but I have these white/yellow NAME cards 24 30 53 60 61 70 87 98 Regards, Charlie G >>
Charlie! Nice to see you over here. It's been quite some time since I had any activity on The Bench. How're things over there?
<< <i>It's gonna be a long 4-5 day wait for me to get mine in the mail...
I gotta say, I wasn't a big fan of '58 Topps previously but after seeing the scans of these great looking cards, it's definitely growing on me. >>
I've always liked the '58 set. The first high end single (high end for me anyway) I ever purchased was a '58 Topps Mays. I hated to part with that card.
Scott
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Geordie, I'll PM you over there in a few... Are you seeing these lighter color backgrounds on some cards ? How about card quality ? These are almost as bad as the 2006 Bowman Heritage were with off center cuts and print splatter. Man Topps needs a Quality Control Department big time.... I came up 40 cards short of a base run after opening eight boxes [ but do not know for sure what the Var's are]. THC's are very scarce refractors almost impossible... [what a bad choice by Topps of putting Mantle & A-Rod HR's innserts instead of THC's Regards, Charlie G
The following cards seem to be short prints and or variations, feel free to add vars you have already found:
2 - Clemens Yellow Team 4 - Ronny Paulino 5 - Jeter 8 - Eckstein Yellow Player Name 11 - Mackowiak Yellow Team 14 Abreu 13 ledezma White and Yellow Cars seem to be SPs
I will try to update this list as I go through. Its going to be along slow process.
PS David Ortiz is NOT a SP contrary to some eBya auctions - I pulled 8 of these out of my case.
Ok, now I see it, Add #35 50 and 77 for white/yellow Team... There may be more...
<< <i>The following cards seem to be short prints and or variations, feel free to add vars you have already found:
2 - Clemens Yellow Team 4 - Ronny Paulino 5 - Jeter 8 - Eckstein Yellow Player Name 11 - Mackowiak Yellow Team 14 Abreu 13 ledezma White and Yellow Cars seem to be SPs
I will try to update this list as I go through. Its going to be along slow process.
PS David Ortiz is NOT a SP contrary to some eBya auctions - I pulled 8 of these out of my case. >>
FYI for those unfamiliar with the 1958 set. There were plenty of yellow variations. And what we have to look for is the checklist variations as well.
Here is a list.
-2a Bob Lemon, white team letters, -2b Bob Lemon, yellow team letters, -8a Eddie Kasko, white name, -8b Eddie Kasko, yellow name, -11a Jim Rivera, white team letters, -11b Jim Rivera, yellow team letters, -13a Billy Hoeft, yellow name, Tigers -13b Billy Hoeft, white name, orange triangle by foot, Tigers -13c Billy Hoeft, white name, red triangle by foot, Tigers -20a Gil McDougald, white name, Yankees -20b Gil McDougald, yellow name, Yankees -23a Bill Tuttle, white name, -23b Bill Tuttle, yellow name, -24a Hobie Landrith, white name, -24b Hobie Landrith, yellow name, -30a Hank Aaron, white name, Braves -30b Hank Aaron, yellow name, Braves -32a J.W. Porter, white name, Tigers -32b J.W. Porter, yellow name, Tigers -33a Cal Neeman, white team letters, -33b Cal Neeman, yellow team letters, -35a Don Mossi, white team letters, -35b Don Mossi, yellow team letters, -46a Lou Sleater, white name, Tigers -46b Lou Sleater, yellow name, Tigers -50a Billy Pierce, white team letters, -50b Billy Pierce, yellow team letters, -52a Bob Clemente, white team letters, -52b Bob Clemente, yellow team letters, -53a Morrie Martin, white name, -53b Morrie Martin, yellow name, -57a Tim Thompson, white name, Tigers -57b Tim Thompson, yellow name, Tigers -58a Art Schult, white team letters, -58b Art Schult, yellow team letters, -60a Del Ennis, white name, Cardinals -60b Del Ennis, yellow name, Cardinals -61a Darrell Johnson, white name, -61b Darrell Johnson, yellow name, -65a Von McDaniel, white name, -65b Von McDaniel, yellow name, -70a Al Kaline, white name, Tigers -70b Al Kaline, yellow name, Tigers -76a Dick Farrell, white team letters, -76b Dick Farrell, yellow team letters, -77a Don Zimmer, white team letters, -77b Don Zimmer, yellow team letters, -78a Ernie Johnson, white name, -78b Ernie Johnson, yellow name, -79a Dick Williams, white team letters, -79b Dick Williams, yellow team letters, -81a Steve Boros, white team letters, -81b Steve Boros, yellow team letters, -85a Luis Aparicio, white team letters, -85b Luis Aparicio, yellow team letters, -92a Clint Courtney, white name, -92b Clint Courtney, yellow name, -100a Early Wynn, white team letters, -100b Early Wynn, yellow team letters, -101a Bobby Richardson, white name, -101b Bobby Richardson, yellow name, -108a Jim Landis, white team letters, -108b Jim Landis, yellow team letters, -377a Braves Team, alphabetical checklist, -377b Braves Team, numerical checklist, -397a Tigers Team, alphabetical checklist, -397b Tigers Team, numerical checklist, -408a Orioles Team, alphabetical checklist, -408b Orioles Team, numberical checklist, -428a Redlegs Team, alphabetical checklist, -428b Redlegs Team, numberical checklist, -433a Pancho Herrera, correct spelling, -433b Pancho Herrera, missing "a" in Herrera,
<< <i>The following cards seem to be short prints and or variations, feel free to add vars you have already found:
2 - Clemens Yellow Team 4 - Ronny Paulino 5 - Jeter 8 - Eckstein Yellow Player Name 11 - Mackowiak Yellow Team 14 Abreu 13 ledezma White and Yellow Cars seem to be SPs 20 Cano Yellow Team 22 Kendall ? 23 Kotsay - Yellow Name 24 Molina - Yellow Name 30 Ichiro - Yellow Name 31 - Beltran Perez 32 Brad Hawpe 33 Jim Thome Yellow Team 35 Willaims Yellow Team 46 Zumaya Yellow Name 49 Taveras 50 Buehrle 50 Buehrle Yellow Team 52 Bay YT 53 Valentin YN 57 Escobar YN 58 Swisher 59 Millwood 60 Wilson YN 61 Rivera YN 65 Narveson YN 67 Mora ? 68 Jennings ? 70 Ordonez YN 76 hamels YT 77 Furcal 77 Furcal YT 78 Theriot YN 79 Patterson YT 81 Drew YT 85 Vizquel YT 86 Fred Lewis ? 87 Chacon YN 92 Wright YN 95 Hall ? 97 Suppan YN 98 Zimmerman YN
I will try to update this list as I go through. Its going to be along slow process.
PS David Ortiz is NOT a SP contrary to some eBya auctions - I pulled 8 of these out of my case. >>
Pharber Great list. It provided clues on where to look. It hits about 97 % with one or two differences. I was not able though to see any differences on the Checklist variations. Maybe I don't have enough of them to find the Var's
In case the link is no good, I printed out the list from it. I quote.
Topps has released the list of short prints and variations for 2007 Topps Heritage to Beckett Baseball.
Mimicking the original 1958 Topps set, yellow name and yellow team name variations were included in the 2007 Topps Heritage product and include:
Yellow Name Variations 8 David Eckstein 23 Mark Kotsay 24 Yadier Molina 30 Ichiro 46 Joel Zumaya 53 Jose Valentin 57 Kelvim Escobar 60 Preston Wilson 61 Mariano Rivera 65 Chris Narveson 70 Magglio Ordonez 78 Ryan Theriot 87 Shawn Chacon 92 David Wright 97 Jeff Suppan 98 Ryan Zimmerman 101 Miguel Cairo
Yellow Team Name Variations 2 Roger Clemens 11 Rob Mackowiak 13 Wilfredo Ledezma 20 Robinson Cano 33 Jim Thome 35 Woody Williams 50 Mark Buehrle 52 Jason Bay 58 Nick Swisher 76 Cole Hamels 77 Rafael Furcal 79 Corey Patterson 81 Stephen Drew 85 Omar Vizquel 100 Jose Contreras 108 Hanley Ramirez
Short Prints 4 Ronny Paulino 5 Derek Jeter 13 Wilfredo Ledezma 14 Bobby Abreu 22 Jason Kendall 23 Mark Kotsay 31 Beltran Perez 32 Brad Hawpe 40 Francisco Cordero 41 Anthony Reyes 49 Willy Taveras 50 Mark Buehrle 58 Nick Swisher 59 Kevin Millwood 67 Melvin Mora 68 Jason Jennings 76 Cole Hamels 77 Rafael Furcal 85 Omar Vizquel 86 Fred Lewis 94 Xavier Nady 95 Bill Hall 103 Carl Crawford 104 Mike Lamb 112 Marcus Thames 113 Brian Burres 121 Jay Payton 122 Jacque Jones 130 Manny Ramirez 131 Howie Kendrick 139 Ryan Braun 140 Johnny Damon 149 Jose Vidro 150 Alex Rodriguez 158 Cleveland Indians 159 Chris Ray 167 Brian Stokes 168 Albert Pujols 176 David Weathers 177 Jermaine Dye 185 Aaron Hill 186 Scot Shields 194 Derek Lowe 195 Russell Branyan 203 Kendry Morales 204 Rafael Soriano 212 Ty Wigginton 213 Brandon Inge 221 Josh Fields 222 Pat Neshek 230 Chase Utley 231 John Nelson 239 Doug Davis 240 Jason Giambi 248 Adam Wainwright 249 Matt Thornton 257 Aaron Cook 258 Cliff Lee 266 Andy Pettitte 267 A.J. Pierzynski 275 Jorge Posada 276 Jeff Conine 284 Doug Mientkiewicz 285 Ken Griffey Jr. 293 Ryan Garko 294 Miguel Batista 302 Angel Sanchez 303 Freddy Sanchez 311 Aaron Harang 312 Boston Red Sox 320 Kenny Lofton 321 Vladmir Guerrero/Ivan Rodriguez 329 Craig Monroe 330 Paul Lo Duca 338 Todd Walker 339 Jarrod Washburn 347 Boone Logan 348 Jimmy Rollins 356 Bernie Castro 357 Eric Stults 365 Fernando Rodney 366 Chris Duncan 374 Jose Mesa 375 Michael Young 383 Eduardo Perez 384 Scott Moore 392 Shane Youman 393 Melky Cabrera 401 Jose Reyes 402 Juan Encarnacion 410 Francisco Rodriguez 411 Ian Kinsler 419 Scott Kazmir 420 Norris Hopper 428 Cincinnati Reds 429 Ramon Hernandez 437 Vernon Wells 438 Vladimir Guerrero 446 Franklin Gutierrez 447 Mark Redman 455 Chien-Ming Wang 456 Shawn Riggans 464 Jose Garcia 465 Pedro Martinez 473 Lastings Milledge 474 Brian Sanches 482 Edgar Renteria 483 Derek Jeter 491 Ivan Rodriguez 492 Brad Penny
Well. I went to the shop today. I passed on buying a whole case,but I didn't land 5 boxes. The third yielded a Red Auto Jim Bunning!!! I great way to start the madness. A few observations so far....granted I haven't even had much time to look at the cards and see what I have.
1) While odds see long, I pulled a red in just my thrid box, and most of the boxes I opened had 2 chromes AND a refractor in it. 2) The felt box toppers are REALLY nice. I will be adding these to by set. It looks like a 12 count box gets you the set, as I opened 5 and got no dups. 3) The Arod set is a carry over from the 07 topps set, so these will NOT be counted in on the master set. 4) The multi player cards, which the 58 set was famous for, are in there but they look to be photo shopped by topps....I like the effort! 5) Centering wasn't that great so far. Hopefully it will get better.
<< <i>Well. I went to the shop today. I passed on buying a whole case,but I didn't land 5 boxes. The third yielded a Red Auto Jim >>
Congrats on the auto...didnt you just say yesterday that you cant see spending $60 a box for a bunch of base cards a couple of chromes...face it you are a Heritage addict !!
Looking on EBay, there are different cards for autos than the set. I saw a Ryan Howard autograph card and he was holding a bat while his card with a head shot adorns most Heritage promo sell sheets.
Ths is so exciting !! This is my first Heritage experience after watching the fun for years. My first pack (top/middle of the box), 3rd card was a Joel Zumaya Chrome (287/1958). I know it's just a chrome, but I was ecstatic. Right behind it was a Jeff Weaver Jersey. Already got a Preston Wilson Yellow team name variation.
These cards are beautiful. The A-Rod cards do seem out of place, but overall. Very pleased. I got my fingers crossed for an auto or a black.
You know I was thiking about that. My 8 box case last year only got me a red auto and a team topps. Im not sure if they case is dead or not, but for the price I had to pay I need to move on to a fresh case.
My dealer called, Its in. Im on my way right now, getting 2 boxes, cant wait, I think Ill just set them on the lucky table and look at them, see how long I can last? HOOYA! Heritage Heaven.
Welcome! Glad you are on board. You have a great place to try for a set. There will be plenty of busters and plenty of extras!! Good luck with the high end search!
<< <i>You know I was thiking about that. My 8 box case last year only got me a red auto and a team topps. Im not sure if they case is dead or not, but for the price I had to pay I need to move on to a fresh case.
Kevin >>
You won't pull another auto out of that case. Move on to a fresh case.
question.. what is considered the base set? all but the sp's? or the yellow stuff is also not part of the base set?
12 box case i took the nose dive... i wasnt gonna buy one but did. NO INK....might be good news for you then stone.
i black refractor ricky nolasco. 4 jersey cards 3 from group c. 46 mantles.. 6 refractors 25 chrome.. that cant be right i must of misplaced some chrome. back to looking.
so is that sp list the one for sure? thanks this is kuhlmann
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Ill be tomorrow with some rips!
Kevin
Kevin
<< <i>5 Boxes in and just pulled my 1st auto. Jim Bunning >>
Nice!
8 am wake up
10:30 head to the card store
11 Arrive at the card store and get first crack at a sealed case
rip until I hit something nice
pick up pages and album and penny sleeves
go to work, thinking about heritage the whole time
come back and sort sort sort
trade with friends
Kevin
Kevin
Here are my favorite base cards so far. I am guessing they are base cards due to placement in the pack.
I think someone at Topps does not like Piazza.
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The top row cards are refractors. The ones on the bottom are chrome.
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I got shipping confirmation on my case, but it won't be here until Wednesday.
Geordie
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Autos - 1 (Bunning)
SPs - ???? - I haven't sorted these yet, so I'm not sure of the short print number range. The yellow player name vars are easy to find, but the yellow team vars will take some investigation.
Relics - 7 Total (6 Clubhouse Collection 3 bat, 3 JSY and 1 Flashback Relic Richie Ashburn) double of Omar Vizquel bat
Black Chrome - 1 (JD Drew 04/58)
Chrome Refractors - 6
Chrome - 27
T&N - 17
FB - 23
NAP - 21
Mantle HR -46 ugh
Arod HR - 13 Why the heck did they put these in this set? They are out of place and taking the place of a chrome.
Overall impression: I am happy w/ my case. I pulled a nice auto and the cards look sweet. I love the box toppers. They were a very nice touch. I am disappointed w/ the reuse of some player photos from the 1952 Rookies and Bowman Heritage. But overall I like what I have seen so far.
Anyone have an SP list yet?
Thanx for taking the time to scan and post!
I really like the all-star cards and the patches!
Congratulations on the Bunning auto.
Now, the work - sorting all that out.
I'll be interested to see how close you come to a complete set. My biggest complaint over the years - "the odd distribution of commons!"
Good luck
mike
Geordie
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<< <i>ugh - I hope someone gets a firm handle on the yellow letter variations, which I don't think are part of the 495-card set. There is speculation from a guy over on the Beckett boards that there may be as many as [i/three variations of some cards??? Yikes!
Geordie >>
Thank God for trades Geordie!
Group B 1:202
Group C 1:67
Group D 1:808
1/2 case so far. No ink.
I am sick of Mickey Mantle. He was great. I get it. Enough already!
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<< <i>I am sick of Mickey Mantle. He was great. I get it. Enough already! >>
<< <i>
Thanks Jim!
soooooo, about the Posada and Snider relics. Did I hear you say you were sick of those too??
Geordie
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If it were not for all of the Mantle and ARod cards, this set would be unbeatable.
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My Pirates Collection
A question for you early rippers. . .
Where is the special card in each pack? Last year it was in the middle of deck. The year before it was the second from the end. Is there a consistency this year?
I hope I am not seeing what I am seeing. If you remember the horror of the white cards from the 2006 Bowman Heritage, I am seeing the same thing on the 2007 Topps Heritage. Does anyone else see this happening ?
I have not yet seen any TEAM white/yellow, but I have these white/yellow NAME cards 24 30 53 60 61 70 87 98
Regards,
Charlie G
Ethan
Only an idiot would have a message board signature.
I gotta say, I wasn't a big fan of '58 Topps previously but after seeing the scans of these great looking cards, it's definitely growing on me.
<< <i>Ok, let's try again.
I hope I am not seeing what I am seeing. If you remember the horror of the white cards from the 2006 Bowman Heritage, I am seeing the same thing on the 2007 Topps Heritage. Does anyone else see this happening ?
I have not yet seen any TEAM white/yellow, but I have these white/yellow NAME cards 24 30 53 60 61 70 87 98
Regards,
Charlie G >>
Charlie! Nice to see you over here. It's been quite some time since I had any activity on The Bench. How're things over there?
Geordie
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<< <i>It's gonna be a long 4-5 day wait for me to get mine in the mail...
I gotta say, I wasn't a big fan of '58 Topps previously but after seeing the scans of these great looking cards, it's definitely growing on me. >>
I've always liked the '58 set. The first high end single (high end for me anyway) I ever purchased was a '58 Topps Mays. I hated to part with that card.
Scott
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Are you seeing these lighter color backgrounds on some cards ?
How about card quality ? These are almost as bad as the 2006 Bowman Heritage were with off center cuts and print splatter. Man Topps needs a Quality Control Department big time....
I came up 40 cards short of a base run after opening eight boxes [ but do not know for sure what the Var's are].
THC's are very scarce refractors almost impossible... [what a bad choice by Topps of putting Mantle & A-Rod HR's innserts instead of THC's
Regards,
Charlie G
2 - Clemens Yellow Team
4 - Ronny Paulino
5 - Jeter
8 - Eckstein Yellow Player Name
11 - Mackowiak Yellow Team
14 Abreu
13 ledezma White and Yellow Cars seem to be SPs
I will try to update this list as I go through. Its going to be along slow process.
PS David Ortiz is NOT a SP contrary to some eBya auctions - I pulled 8 of these out of my case.
Ok, now I see it,
Add #35 50 and 77 for white/yellow Team... There may be more...
<< <i>The following cards seem to be short prints and or variations, feel free to add vars you have already found:
2 - Clemens Yellow Team
4 - Ronny Paulino
5 - Jeter
8 - Eckstein Yellow Player Name
11 - Mackowiak Yellow Team
14 Abreu
13 ledezma White and Yellow Cars seem to be SPs
I will try to update this list as I go through. Its going to be along slow process.
PS David Ortiz is NOT a SP contrary to some eBya auctions - I pulled 8 of these out of my case. >>
Here is a list.
-2a Bob Lemon, white team letters,
-2b Bob Lemon, yellow team letters,
-8a Eddie Kasko, white name,
-8b Eddie Kasko, yellow name,
-11a Jim Rivera, white team letters,
-11b Jim Rivera, yellow team letters,
-13a Billy Hoeft, yellow name, Tigers
-13b Billy Hoeft, white name, orange triangle by foot, Tigers
-13c Billy Hoeft, white name, red triangle by foot, Tigers
-20a Gil McDougald, white name, Yankees
-20b Gil McDougald, yellow name, Yankees
-23a Bill Tuttle, white name,
-23b Bill Tuttle, yellow name,
-24a Hobie Landrith, white name,
-24b Hobie Landrith, yellow name,
-30a Hank Aaron, white name, Braves
-30b Hank Aaron, yellow name, Braves
-32a J.W. Porter, white name, Tigers
-32b J.W. Porter, yellow name, Tigers
-33a Cal Neeman, white team letters,
-33b Cal Neeman, yellow team letters,
-35a Don Mossi, white team letters,
-35b Don Mossi, yellow team letters,
-46a Lou Sleater, white name, Tigers
-46b Lou Sleater, yellow name, Tigers
-50a Billy Pierce, white team letters,
-50b Billy Pierce, yellow team letters,
-52a Bob Clemente, white team letters,
-52b Bob Clemente, yellow team letters,
-53a Morrie Martin, white name,
-53b Morrie Martin, yellow name,
-57a Tim Thompson, white name, Tigers
-57b Tim Thompson, yellow name, Tigers
-58a Art Schult, white team letters,
-58b Art Schult, yellow team letters,
-60a Del Ennis, white name, Cardinals
-60b Del Ennis, yellow name, Cardinals
-61a Darrell Johnson, white name,
-61b Darrell Johnson, yellow name,
-65a Von McDaniel, white name,
-65b Von McDaniel, yellow name,
-70a Al Kaline, white name, Tigers
-70b Al Kaline, yellow name, Tigers
-76a Dick Farrell, white team letters,
-76b Dick Farrell, yellow team letters,
-77a Don Zimmer, white team letters,
-77b Don Zimmer, yellow team letters,
-78a Ernie Johnson, white name,
-78b Ernie Johnson, yellow name,
-79a Dick Williams, white team letters,
-79b Dick Williams, yellow team letters,
-81a Steve Boros, white team letters,
-81b Steve Boros, yellow team letters,
-85a Luis Aparicio, white team letters,
-85b Luis Aparicio, yellow team letters,
-92a Clint Courtney, white name,
-92b Clint Courtney, yellow name,
-100a Early Wynn, white team letters,
-100b Early Wynn, yellow team letters,
-101a Bobby Richardson, white name,
-101b Bobby Richardson, yellow name,
-108a Jim Landis, white team letters,
-108b Jim Landis, yellow team letters,
-377a Braves Team, alphabetical checklist,
-377b Braves Team, numerical checklist,
-397a Tigers Team, alphabetical checklist,
-397b Tigers Team, numerical checklist,
-408a Orioles Team, alphabetical checklist,
-408b Orioles Team, numberical checklist,
-428a Redlegs Team, alphabetical checklist,
-428b Redlegs Team, numberical checklist,
-433a Pancho Herrera, correct spelling,
-433b Pancho Herrera, missing "a" in Herrera,
<< <i>The following cards seem to be short prints and or variations, feel free to add vars you have already found:
2 - Clemens Yellow Team
4 - Ronny Paulino
5 - Jeter
8 - Eckstein Yellow Player Name
11 - Mackowiak Yellow Team
14 Abreu
13 ledezma White and Yellow Cars seem to be SPs
20 Cano Yellow Team
22 Kendall ?
23 Kotsay - Yellow Name
24 Molina - Yellow Name
30 Ichiro - Yellow Name
31 - Beltran Perez
32 Brad Hawpe
33 Jim Thome Yellow Team
35 Willaims Yellow Team
46 Zumaya Yellow Name
49 Taveras
50 Buehrle
50 Buehrle Yellow Team
52 Bay YT
53 Valentin YN
57 Escobar YN
58 Swisher
59 Millwood
60 Wilson YN
61 Rivera YN
65 Narveson YN
67 Mora ?
68 Jennings ?
70 Ordonez YN
76 hamels YT
77 Furcal
77 Furcal YT
78 Theriot YN
79 Patterson YT
81 Drew YT
85 Vizquel YT
86 Fred Lewis ?
87 Chacon YN
92 Wright YN
95 Hall ?
97 Suppan YN
98 Zimmerman YN
I will try to update this list as I go through. Its going to be along slow process.
PS David Ortiz is NOT a SP contrary to some eBya auctions - I pulled 8 of these out of my case. >>
Great list. It provided clues on where to look. It hits about 97 % with one or two differences.
I was not able though to see any differences on the Checklist variations. Maybe I don't have enough of them to find the Var's
Thanks for the [58] list
Regards,
Charlie G
This link courtesy of Russ S from The Bench
http://www.beckett.com/estore/news/?...bBB&a=8002&s=1
In case the link is no good, I printed out the list from it.
I quote.
Topps has released the list of short prints and variations for 2007 Topps Heritage to Beckett Baseball.
Mimicking the original 1958 Topps set, yellow name and yellow team name variations were included in the 2007 Topps Heritage product and include:
Yellow Name Variations
8 David Eckstein
23 Mark Kotsay
24 Yadier Molina
30 Ichiro
46 Joel Zumaya
53 Jose Valentin
57 Kelvim Escobar
60 Preston Wilson
61 Mariano Rivera
65 Chris Narveson
70 Magglio Ordonez
78 Ryan Theriot
87 Shawn Chacon
92 David Wright
97 Jeff Suppan
98 Ryan Zimmerman
101 Miguel Cairo
Yellow Team Name Variations
2 Roger Clemens
11 Rob Mackowiak
13 Wilfredo Ledezma
20 Robinson Cano
33 Jim Thome
35 Woody Williams
50 Mark Buehrle
52 Jason Bay
58 Nick Swisher
76 Cole Hamels
77 Rafael Furcal
79 Corey Patterson
81 Stephen Drew
85 Omar Vizquel
100 Jose Contreras
108 Hanley Ramirez
Short Prints
4 Ronny Paulino
5 Derek Jeter
13 Wilfredo Ledezma
14 Bobby Abreu
22 Jason Kendall
23 Mark Kotsay
31 Beltran Perez
32 Brad Hawpe
40 Francisco Cordero
41 Anthony Reyes
49 Willy Taveras
50 Mark Buehrle
58 Nick Swisher
59 Kevin Millwood
67 Melvin Mora
68 Jason Jennings
76 Cole Hamels
77 Rafael Furcal
85 Omar Vizquel
86 Fred Lewis
94 Xavier Nady
95 Bill Hall
103 Carl Crawford
104 Mike Lamb
112 Marcus Thames
113 Brian Burres
121 Jay Payton
122 Jacque Jones
130 Manny Ramirez
131 Howie Kendrick
139 Ryan Braun
140 Johnny Damon
149 Jose Vidro
150 Alex Rodriguez
158 Cleveland Indians
159 Chris Ray
167 Brian Stokes
168 Albert Pujols
176 David Weathers
177 Jermaine Dye
185 Aaron Hill
186 Scot Shields
194 Derek Lowe
195 Russell Branyan
203 Kendry Morales
204 Rafael Soriano
212 Ty Wigginton
213 Brandon Inge
221 Josh Fields
222 Pat Neshek
230 Chase Utley
231 John Nelson
239 Doug Davis
240 Jason Giambi
248 Adam Wainwright
249 Matt Thornton
257 Aaron Cook
258 Cliff Lee
266 Andy Pettitte
267 A.J. Pierzynski
275 Jorge Posada
276 Jeff Conine
284 Doug Mientkiewicz
285 Ken Griffey Jr.
293 Ryan Garko
294 Miguel Batista
302 Angel Sanchez
303 Freddy Sanchez
311 Aaron Harang
312 Boston Red Sox
320 Kenny Lofton
321 Vladmir Guerrero/Ivan Rodriguez
329 Craig Monroe
330 Paul Lo Duca
338 Todd Walker
339 Jarrod Washburn
347 Boone Logan
348 Jimmy Rollins
356 Bernie Castro
357 Eric Stults
365 Fernando Rodney
366 Chris Duncan
374 Jose Mesa
375 Michael Young
383 Eduardo Perez
384 Scott Moore
392 Shane Youman
393 Melky Cabrera
401 Jose Reyes
402 Juan Encarnacion
410 Francisco Rodriguez
411 Ian Kinsler
419 Scott Kazmir
420 Norris Hopper
428 Cincinnati Reds
429 Ramon Hernandez
437 Vernon Wells
438 Vladimir Guerrero
446 Franklin Gutierrez
447 Mark Redman
455 Chien-Ming Wang
456 Shawn Riggans
464 Jose Garcia
465 Pedro Martinez
473 Lastings Milledge
474 Brian Sanches
482 Edgar Renteria
483 Derek Jeter
491 Ivan Rodriguez
492 Brad Penny
Bunning!!! I great way to start the madness. A few observations so far....granted I haven't even had much time to look
at the cards and see what I have.
1) While odds see long, I pulled a red in just my thrid box, and most of the boxes I opened had 2 chromes AND a refractor in it.
2) The felt box toppers are REALLY nice. I will be adding these to by set. It looks like a 12 count box gets you the set, as I opened
5 and got no dups.
3) The Arod set is a carry over from the 07 topps set, so these will NOT be counted in on the master set.
4) The multi player cards, which the 58 set was famous for, are in there but they look to be photo shopped by topps....I like the effort!
5) Centering wasn't that great so far. Hopefully it will get better.
Kevin
<< <i>Well. I went to the shop today. I passed on buying a whole case,but I didn't land 5 boxes. The third yielded a Red Auto Jim >>
Congrats on the auto...didnt you just say yesterday that you cant see spending $60 a box for a bunch of base cards a couple of chromes...face it you are a Heritage addict !!
Box 1:
Wagner Jersey
Mantle 9,16,35,38
Arod 64
NAP 1,8
FB 3,7
TN6
9 Checklists
2 chromes
1 refractor
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Box 2:
Weaver Jersey
Mantle 20,26,32,41
Arod 56,62,72
NAP 14
FB 2,3,4,10
TN 4,7
10 Checklists
1 chrome
1 refractor
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Box 3:
Mantle 2,10,15,26,30
Arod 68
NAP 10,15
FB 1
TN 1,10
7 checklists
1 Bunning Red AU
2 chromes
1 refractor
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Box 4:
Mantle 3,11,29,40
Arod 52
NAP 4,12
FB 4,8
TN 9
5 checklists
2 chrome
1 refractor
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Box 5:
Renteria Bat
Mantle 5,13,23,37
Arod 74
NAP 2
FB 2,6
TN3,7
4 checklists
2 chrome
1 refractor
Im going to step back and look at these numbers and see if I see anything odd. Thanks
Kevin
I saw a Ryan Howard autograph card and he was holding a bat while his card with a head shot adorns most Heritage promo sell sheets.
That makes everything OK - tho if ya got the case card - the other 7 boxes left behind will go to guys like Stone193!
Looking for the spreadsheet guys.
No one does a better job than John Basilone in that department.
mike
Ths is so exciting !! This is my first Heritage experience after watching the fun for years. My first pack (top/middle of the box), 3rd card was a Joel Zumaya Chrome (287/1958). I know it's just a chrome, but I was ecstatic. Right behind it was a Jeff Weaver Jersey. Already got a Preston Wilson Yellow team name variation.
These cards are beautiful. The A-Rod cards do seem out of place, but overall. Very pleased. I got my fingers crossed for an auto or a black.
Ian
case is dead or not, but for the price I had to pay I need to move on to a fresh case.
Kevin
3 chrome
1 GU Ervin Santana
Several ARod and Mantle HR (Boo)
Tons of great gum, on my 3rd piece.
Sorting now.....
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Collecting all Yankees especially:
Thurman Munson, Yogi Berra, Melky Cabrera!
For my son:
Derek Jeter and Jorge Posada
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Welcome! Glad you are on board. You have a great place to try for a set. There will be plenty of busters and plenty of extras!! Good
luck with the high end search!
Kevin
<< <i>You know I was thiking about that. My 8 box case last year only got me a red auto and a team topps. Im not sure if they
case is dead or not, but for the price I had to pay I need to move on to a fresh case.
Kevin >>
You won't pull another auto out of that case. Move on to a fresh case.
12 box case i took the nose dive... i wasnt gonna buy one but did. NO INK....might be good news for you then stone.
i black refractor ricky nolasco. 4 jersey cards 3 from group c. 46 mantles.. 6 refractors 25 chrome.. that cant be right i must of misplaced some chrome. back to looking.
so is that sp list the one for sure? thanks this is kuhlmann