The Official 2007 TOPPS HERITAGE Thread

helionaut · December 3, 2006 6:58AM

Just because there's not much else going on. I was actually a little underwhelmed with the 2006 set (maybe they went a little too far with the washed out color), but I think the 2007 set, assuming they do 1958-style cards, will be unexpectedly popular, at least in my house.

So if anyone gets any news on this set, composition, release dates, etc., post here. I was disappointed there was nothing in Previews this month, which previews releases 3 months out and often has the earliest info on cards.

jskirwin · December 3, 2006 12:12PM

Would they do without the backgrounds?

I personally like backgrounds - the people in the stands, the cars...

But I too am jonesing for the 2007 set since I'm a diehard Redbirds fan. It will be my first non-vintage purchase.

86nova · December 4, 2006 5:30AM

Heritage baseball 2001-2006. Regarding the PSA population report, which card from those years has been submitted the most times for grading? I was mildly surprised. I would have guessed the 01 Ripken, which is not correct. 86nova

Lothar52 · December 4, 2006 6:35AM

sometime in the future I believe these cards will become popular with set collectors and be graded...prolly when they complete their run...

Loth

tkd7 · December 4, 2006 6:52AM

They look nice in a slab

86nova · December 4, 2006 8:06AM

Tom-- Great looking card. Wish I wouldn't have traded my chromes. Certainly does look great in the slab. 86nova

joestalin · December 4, 2006 11:25PM

I have only one card graded and thats a 2001 Ripken BGS 9...probably be a 9.5 now they way they grade,but I would probably damage
that card getting it out. The cards shipped so easily.

Kevin

PS Craig...its good to see you around!!!

HERITAGE MUSEUM

The Autos:

The Black Refractors:

brian26 · December 5, 2006 3:38AM

Any idea if Topps plans on "ending" the run of Heritage anytime soon. I love the product. I've collected every set since 2002 and hope to take a stab at the '07 set too.

joestalin · December 5, 2006 4:19AM

Topps will continue this set for a long time. It costs them nothing to make and always sells well. If it was up to them they would have
all their products be like this. The only thing Im a little disappointed with is that every year the auto sets gets harder to pull and
more watered down. I could see somewhere down the road a big heritage guy like me only opening a few boxes and waiting to
purchase a full or partial set online.

I think this thread could use some real 58 scans...anyone a big 58 set builder??

Thanks
Kevin

Stingray · December 5, 2006 4:29AM

Not a fan of 58s, no backgrounds, boring IMO!!

Munson15 · December 5, 2006 5:49AM

That's what I thought they looked like, I was wondering what backrounds jskrwin was talking about. It might be boring but I think I like it....

brian26 · December 5, 2006 12:43PM

This is going to be a great set. The backgrounds aren't important....I actually like the bright colors....this will be similar to the 2003 Heritage set in that respect.

And the 2008 Heritage ('59) is going to be killer too.

brian26 · December 5, 2006 12:47PM

Hopefully they do a good job with the poses. Looking at some of the'58's on Ebay, it is clear that a lot of the cards have boring mug shots....hopefully they mix in a lot of good batting and pitching "action" shots.

joestalin · December 5, 2006 12:50PM

The kicker will be the dual player cards. If topps has done their homework they will be able to deliver on this. That would be awesome.

So Arod will be card #1 and Bonds #5?

Kevin

TNP777 · December 5, 2006 4:47PM

1958 had:
33 yellow & white name variations, including Aaron (Andruw Jones?), Clemente (Bay?), Kaline (Sheffield?)
team cards have checklists on back
#13 Billy Hoeft has three total variations
#37 , 188, 236 - player's names do not match the photo on the card
Braves, Tigers, Orioles and Reds have checklist variations (numerical & alphabetical)
#433 has a spelling variation (Pancho Herrer"a")
#475-495 are All-Star cards - I would think Topps would definitely reproduce these
Felt emblems subset - possible box toppers here?

Multiplayer cards:
#289 Series Rivals - Burdette & Shantz = Carpenter & Verlander or Rogers?
#304 Tigers Big Bats - Kaline & Kuenn = Inge & Monroe?
#314 Dodgers Boss & Power - Alston & Snider = Little & Kent?
#321 Sluggers Supreme - Kluszewski & Williams = Howard & Ortiz?
#334 Mound Aces - Friend & Pierce = Webb & Santana?
#351 Braves' Fence Busters - Aaron, Crandall & Mathews = Chipper, Andruw & Giles?
#386 Birdies' Young Sluggers - Robinson, Bailey & Tebbets (do the Orioles have an current young sluggers? Might be a different team here
#418 World Series Foes - Mantle & Aaron = IRod & Pujols?
#436 Rival Fence Busters - Mays & Snider = Howard & Pujols?

Star parallels:
#1 Williams = Ortiz (again)
#5 Mays = Bonds (if he comes back to the Giants - if not, then who?)
#30 Aaron = A. Jones
#52 Clemente = Bay
#70 Kaline = Casey
#88 Snider = Kent
#117 Frank Torre = Joe Torre
#150 Mantle = ARod or Jeter
#187 Koufax = Billingsley (young up & coming Dodger pitcher just like Koufax at that point in his career)
#230 Ashburn = Howard
#270 Spahn = Smoltz
#285 F. Robinson = Griffey
#310 Banks = Aramis Ramirez
#370 Berra = Posada

Thoughts? Let's flesh this out and try to predict what Topps will end up with.

Geordie

Lothar52 · December 5, 2006 4:56PM

no matter what..its heritage...and we all are going to LOVE IT!!

frankhardy · December 5, 2006 10:40PM

I can't wait for the 2037 Heritage.

Even though the 1988 Topps cards will be 49 years old, probably a 2037 Heritage common will STILL be worth more than a 1988 Topps star card!

TNP777 · December 15, 2006 5:45AM

Just received an email from one of the guys I buy cases from: here're the goods!

2007 Topps Heritage Baseball

SRP: $3/pk, $72/bx

12 bx/24 pk/8 cd

Releases - February 28, 2007

Where past and present meet on classic Topps designs! Once again, the highly anticipated Topps Heritage brand honors treasured collecting experiences from the past with its nostalgic card design. This year, 2007 Topps Heritage Baseball highlights more than 400 of the year's best Rookies and Veteran superstars - all showcased on the time-honored 1958 Topps card design. This set features an extensive list of current players presented on cards with a vintage feel and includes the following:

* More than 400 stars of today on the nostalgic 1958 Topps Baseball design!
* Autograph and Relics from today's stars and 1958 legends!
* Statistical comparisons between past and present superstars!
* Gum in every pack!

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
Base Cards(495) - Current playrs on vintage paper stock featuring the classic 1958 Topps card design!
* 495 Veterans, Rookies, All-Star cards, Combos, Managers, and Team Photos.

Chrome Parallel Cards - Inserted 2 per box!
* Black-Bordered(110) - Sequentially numbered to 58
* Refractors(110) - Sequentially numbered to 558
* Chrome(110) - Sequentially numbered to 1958

Insert Cards - Inserted 9 per box!
* 1958 A.L. Home Run Champion(42)
* New Age Performers(15)
* Then and Now(10)
* Flashbacks(10)
* Alex Rodriguez Road to 500(25)

Autographed Cards - Inserted 1:TBD packs
* Real One - Blue Ink(37)
* Real One - Red Ink(37) - Hand numbered to 58
* Flashbacks(5) - Hand numbered to 25
* 1958 Cut Signatures(3) - All One of One! HOBBY EXCLUSIVE
* Alex Rodriguez Road to 500(25) - All One of One!

Relic Cards - Inserted 1:TBD packs
* Clubhouse Collection(66)
* Clubhouse Collection Dual Relics(6 subs, 3 cards) - Hand numbered to 58
* Flashbacks(10)
* Dual Flashbacks(2 subs, 3 cards) - Hand numbered to 10

Autographed Relic Cards - Inserted 1:TBD packs
* Clubhouse Collection Autographed Relics(6) - Hand numbered to 25
* Flashbacks Autographed Relics(5) - Hand numbered to 25

Box Loader - Inserted 1 per box!
* Felt medallions from 1958 team logos(16) - Hobby Exclusive

Geordie

TNP777 · December 15, 2006 5:53AM

Checklist!!

1 David Ortiz
2 Roger Clemens
3 David Wells
4 Ronny Paulino
5 Derek Jeter
6 Felix Hernandexz
7 Todd Helton
8 David Eckstein
9 Craig Wilson
10 John Smoltz
11 Rob Mackowiak
12 Scott Hatteberg
13 Wilfredo Ledezma
14 Bobby Abreu
15 Austin Kearns
16 Wilson Betemit
17 Darren Oliver
18 Josh Beckett
19 San Franciso Giants
20 Robinson Cano
21 Matt Cain
22 Jason Kendall
23 Mark Kotsay
24 Yadier Molina
25 Brad Penny
26 Adrian Gonzalez
27 Danny Haren
28 Brian Giles
29 Jose Lopez
30 Ichiro
31 Beltran Perez
32 Brad Hawpe
33 Jim Thome
34 Mark DeRosa
35 Woody Williams
36 Luis Gonzalez
37 Billy Sadler
38 Dave Roberts
39 Mitch Maler
40 Eric Chavez
41 Anthony Reyes
42 Russell Martin
43 Scott Proctor
44 Washington Nationals
45 Shane Victorino
46 Joel Zumaya
47 Delmon Young
48 Alex Rios
49 Willy Taveras
50 Mark Buehrle
51 Livan Hernandez
52 Jason Bay
53 Jose Valentin
54 Kevin Reese
55 Felipe Lopez
56 Ryan Sweeney
57 Kelvim Escobar
58 Nick Swisher
59 Kevin Millwood
60 Preston Wilson
61 Mariano Rivera
62 Josh Barfield
63 Ryan Freel
64 Tim Hudson
65 Chris Narveson
66 Matt Murton
67 Melvin Mora
68 Jason Jennings
69 Emil Brown
70 Magglio Ordonez
71 Los Angeles Dodgers
72 Huston Street
73 David Ross
74 Juan Uribe
75 Scott Podsednik
76 Cole Hamels
77 Rafael Furcal
78 Ryan Theriot
79 Corey Patterson
80 Jered Weaver
81 Stephen Drew
82 Adam Kennedy
83 Tony Gwynn Jr.
84 Erik Bedard
85 Omar Vizquel
86 Fred Lewis
87 Brad Radke
88 Frank Catalanotto
89 Orlando Hudson
90 Pat Burrell
91 David DeJesus
92 David Wright
93 Conor Jackson
94 Xavier Nady
95 Bill Hall
96 Andre Ethier
97 Jeff Suppan
98 Ryan Zimmerman
99 Yuniesky Betancourt
100 Jose Contreras
101 Miguel Cairo
102 Brian Roberts
103 Carl Crawford
104 Mike Lamb
105 Mark Ellis
106 Scott Rolen
107 Garrett Atkins
108 Hanley Ramirez
109 Trot Nixon
110 Edgar Renteria
111 Jeff Francis
112 Marcus Thames
113 Brian Burres
114 Brian Schneider
115 Jeremy Bonderman
116 Ryan Madson
117 Gerald Laird
118 Roy Halladay
119 Victor Martinez
120 Greg Maddux
121 Jay Payton
122 Jacque Jones
123 Juan Lara
124 Derrick Turnbow
125 Adam Everett
126 Michael Cuddyer
127 Gil Meche
128 Willy Aybar
129 Jerry Owens
130 Manny Ramirez
131 Howie Kendrick
132 Byung-Hyun Kim
133 Kevin Kouzmanoff
134 Philadelphia Phillies
135 Joe Blanton
136 Ray Durham
137 Luke Hudson
138 Eric Byrnes
139 Ryan Braun
140 Johnny Damon
141 Ambiorix Burgos
142 Hideki Matsui
143 Josh Johnson
144 Miguel Cabrera
146 Delwyn Young
147 Chuck James
148 Morgan Ensberg
149 Jose Vidro
150 Alex Rodriguez
151 Carlos Maldonado
152 Jason Schmidt
153 Alex Escobar
154 Chris Gomez
155 Endy Chavez
156 Kris Benson
157 Bronson Arroyo
158 Cleveland Indians
159 Chris Ray
160 Richie Sexson
161 Hudson Street
162 Kevin Youkilis
163 Armando Benitez
164 Vinny Rottino
165 Garret Anderson
166 Todd Greene
167 Devern Hansack
168 Albert Pujols
169 Todd Coffey
170 Jason Michaels
171 David Dellucci
172 Eric Milton
173 Austin Kearns
174 Kansas City Royals
175 Andy Cannizaro
176 David Weathers
177 Jermaine Dye
178 Wily Mo Pena
179 Chris Burke
180 Jeff Weaver
181 Edwin Encarnacion
182 Jeremy Hermida
183 Tim Wakefield
184 Rich Hill
185 Aaron Hill
186 Scot Shields
187 Randy Johnson
188 Dan Johnson
189 Sean Marshall
190 Marcus Giles
191 Jonathan Broxton
192 Mike Piazza
193 Carlos Quentin
194 Derek Lowe
195 Russell Branyan
196 Jason Marquis
197 Khalil Greene
198 Ryan Dempster
199 Ronnie Belliard
200 Josh Fogg
201 Carlos Lee
202 Chris Denorfia
203 Kendry Morales
204 Rafael Soriano
205 Brandon Phillips
206 Andrew Miller
207 John Koronka
208 Luis Castillo
209 Angel Guzman
210 Jim Edmonds
211 Patrick Misch
212 Ty Wigginton
213 Brandon Inge
214 Royce Clayton
215 Ben Broussard
216 St. Louis Cardinals
217 Mark Mulder
218 Kenji Johjima
219 Joe Crede
220 Dan Haren
221 Josh Fields
222 Pat Neshek
223 Reed Johnson
224 Mike Mussina
225 Randy Winn
226 Brian Rogers
227 Juan Rivera
228 Shawn Green
229 Mike Napoli
230 Chase Utley
231 John Nelson
232 Casey Blake
233 Lyle Overbay
234 Adam LaRoche
235 Jeff Weaver
236 Johnny Estrada
237 James Shields
238 Jose Castillo
239 Doug Davis
240 Jason Giambi
241 Mike Gonzalez
242 Scott Downs
243 Joe Inglett
244 Matt Kemp
245 Ted Lilly
246 New York Yankees
247 Jamey Carroll
248 Adam Wainwright
249 Matt Thornton
250 Alfonso Soriano
251 Tom Gordon
252 Dennis Sarfate
253 Zach Duke
254 Hank Blalock
255 Johan Santana
256 Chicago White Sox
257 Aaron Cook
258 Cliff Lee
259 Miguel Tejada
260 Mike Lowell
261 Ian Snell
262 Jason Tyner
263 Troy Tulowitzki
264 Ervin Santana
265 Jon Lester
266 Andy Pettitte
267 A.J. Pierzynski
268 Rich Aurilia
269 Phil Nevin
270 Tom Glavine
271 Chris Coste
272 Moises Alou
273 J.D. Drew
274 Abraham Nunez
275 Jorge Posada
276 Jeff Conine
277 Chad Cordero
278 Nick Johnson
279 Kevin Millar
280 Mark Grudzielanek
281 Chris Stewart
282 Nate Robertson
283 Drew Anderson
284 Doug Mientkiewicz
285 Ken Griffey Jr.
286 Cory Sullivan
287 Chris Carpenter
288 Gary Matthews
289 Justin Verlander &
Jeff Weaver
290 Vicente Padilla
291 Chris Roberson
292 Chris Young
293 Ryan Garko
294 Miguel Batista
295 B.J. Upton
296 Justin Verlander
297 Ben Zobrist
298 Ben Sheets
299 Eric Chavez
300 W. Harridge/W. Giles
301 Placido Polanco
302 Angel Sanchez
303 Freddy Sanchez
304 Magglio Ordonez &
Carlos Guillen
305 A.J. Burnett
306 Juan Perez
307 Chris Britton
308 Jon Garland
309 Pedro Feliz
310 Ryan Howard
311 Aaron Harang
312 Boston Red Sox
313 Chad Billingsley
314 Bobby Cox &
Chipper Jones
315 Johan Santana
316 Juan Pierre
317 Luke Scott
318 Javier Valentin
319 Mark Loretta
320 Kenny Lofton
321 Vladmir Guerrero &
Ivan Rodriguez
322 Josh Willingham
323 Lance Berkman
324 Anibal Sanchez
325 Maicer Izturis
326 Brett Myers
327 Chicago Cubs
328 Francisco Liriano
329 Craig Monroe
330 Paul Lo Duca
331 Steve Trachsel
332 Bernie Williams
333 Carlos Guillen
334 Johan Santana &
Francisco Liriano
335 Dave Bush
336 Carlos Beltran
337 Jason Isringhausen
338 Todd Walker
339 Jarrod Washburn
340 Brandon Webb
341 Pittsburgh Pirates
342 Derrick Turnbow
343 Chad Santos
344 Brad Lidge
345 Brad Ausmus
346 Carlos Delgado
347 Boone Logan
348 Jimmy Rollins
349 Orlando Hernandez
350 Gary Sheffield
351 Albert Pujols,
Yadier Molina,
Jim Edmonds &
Chris Duncan
352 Jake Peavy
353 Jason Varitek
354 Freddy Garcia
355 Matt Diaz
356 Bernie Castro
357 Eric Stults
358 John Lackey
359 Bobby Jenks
360 Mark Teixeira
361 Jonathan Papelbon
362 Paul Konerko
363 Erik Bedard
364 Eliezer Alfonzo
365 Fernando Rodney
366 Chris Duncan
367 Jose Diaz
368 Travis Hafner
369 Matt Capps
370 Ivan Rodriguez
371 David Murphy
372 Carlos Zambrano
373 Chris Iannetta
374 Jose Mesa
375 Michael Young
376 Bill Bray
377 Milwaukee Brewers
378 Rob Mackowiak
379 Barry Zito
380 Clay Hensley
381 J.J. Putz
382 C.C Sabathia
383 Victor Martinez
384 Scott Moore
385 Scott Olsen
386 Ryan Howard &
Chase Utley
387 Aaron Rowand
388 Mike Rouse
389 Alexis Gomez
390 Brian McCann
391 Ryan Shealy
392 Shane Youman
393 Melky Cabrera
394 Jeremy Sowers
395 Casey Janssen
396 Miguel Perez
397 Detriot Tigers
398 Reggie Abercrombie
399 Ricky Nolasco
400 Tadahito Iguchi
401 Jose Reyes
402 Juan Encarnacion
403 Brandon Harper
404 Torii Hunter
405 Dan Uggla
406 Orlando Cabrera
407 Jose Capellan
408 Baltimore Orioles
409 Frank Thomas
410 Francisco Rodriguez
411 Ian Kinsler
412 Billy Wagner
413 Andy Marte
414 Mike Jacobs
415 Raul Ibanez
416 Jhonny Peralta
417 Chris Young
418 Albert Pujols &
Craig Monroe
419 Scott Kazmir
420 Norris Hopper
421 Chris Capuano
422 Troy Glaus
423 Roy Oswalt
424 Grady Sizemore
425 Chone Figgins
426 Chad Tracy
427 Brian Fuentes
428 Cincinnati Reds
429 Ramon Hernandez
430 Mike Cameron
431 Dontrelle Willis
432 Josh Sharpless
433 Adrian Beltre
434 Curtis Granderson
435 B.J. Ryan
436 Ryan Howard &
David Wright
437 Vernon Wells
438 Vladimir Guerrero
439 Jake Westbrook
440 Chipper Jones
441 James Loney
442 St. Louis Cardinals
443 Oswaldo Navarro
444 Joe Mauer
445 Miguel Montero
446 Franklin Gutierrez
447 Mark Redman
448 Mike Rabelo
449 Phillip Humber
450 Justin Morneau
451 Hector Gimenez
452 Matt Holliday
453 Akinori Otsuka
454 Prince Fielder
455 Chien-Ming Wang
456 Shawn Riggans
457 John Maine
458 Adam Lind
459 Ubaldo Jimenez
460 Drew Anderson
461 Cla Meredith
462 Joaquin Arias
463 Kenny Rogers
464 Jose Garcia
465 Pedro Martinez
466 Jeff Salazar
467 Glen Perkins
468 Travis Ishikawa
469 Joe Borowski
470 Jeremy Brown
471 Andre Etier
472 Taylor Tankersley
473 Lastings Milledge
474 Brian Sanchez
475 Ozzie Guillen &
Phil Garner
476 Albert Pujols
477 David Ortiz
478 Chase Utley
479 Mark Loretta
480 David Wright
481 Alex Rodriguez
482 Edgar Renteria
483 Derek Jeter
484 Alfonso Soriano
485 Vladimir Guerrero
486 Carlos Beltran
487 Vernon Wells
488 Jason Bay
489 Ichiro
490 Paul Lo Duca
491 Ivan Rodriguez
492 Brad Penny
493 Roy Halladay
494 Brian Fuentes
495 Kenny Rogers

Geordie

VintageYankeeFan · December 15, 2006 6:01AM

Pictures:

packman · December 15, 2006 6:02AM

I do not see any SPs listed on the pre-sale sheet. Do they normally show the odds? Are they using the increased number of inserts in lieu of the SPs?

David

VintageYankeeFan · December 15, 2006 6:06AM

PDF file of the checklist

looks like they will have 3, 1 of 1 cut sigs this year:
Williams, Mantle, and MARIS

Stone193 · December 15, 2006 6:08AM

Once again, like last year - I hope those aren't the actual borders?

They're way too wide.

mike

TNP777 · December 15, 2006 6:15AM

More checklists:

Chrome Parallels
THC1 David Ortiz
THC2 John Smoltz
THC3
THC4 Brian Giles
THC5 Billy Sadler
THC6 Joel Zumaya
THC7 Felipe Lopez
THC8 Tim Hudson
THC9 David Ross
THC10 Adam Kennedy
THC11 David DeJesus
THC12 Jose Contreras
THC13 Trot Nixon
THC14 Roy Halladay
THC15 Gil Meche
THC16 Ray Durham
THC17 Delwyn Young
THC18 Endy Chavez
THC19 Vinny Rottino
THC20 Austin Kearns
THC21 Jeremy Hermida
THC22 Jonathan Broxton
THC23 Josh Fogg
THC24 Angel Guzman
THC25 Kenji Johjima
THC26 Juan Rivera
THC27 Johnny Estrada
THC28 Ted Lilly
THC29 Hank Blalock
THC30 Troy Tulowitzki
THC31 Moises Alou
THC32 Chris Stewart
THC33 Vicente Padilla
THC34 Eric Chavez
THC35 Jon Garland
THC36 Luke Scott
THC37 Brett Myers
THC38 Dave Bush
THC39 Brad Lidge
THC40 Jason Varitek
THC41 Paul Konerko
THC42 David Murphy
THC43 Clay Hensley
THC44 Alexis Gomez
THC45 Reggie Abercrombie
THC46 Jose Capellan
THC47 Jhonny Peralta
THC48 Chone Figgins
THC49 Curtis Granderson
THC50 Oswaldo Navarro
THC51 Matt Holliday
THC52 Cla Meredith
THC53 Jeremy Brown
THC54 Mark Loretta
THC55 Jason Bay
THC56 Roger Clemens
THC57 Rob Mackowiak
THC58 Robinson Cano
THC59 Jose Lopez
THC60 Dave Roberts
THC61 Delmon Young
THC62 Ryan Sweeney
THC63 Chris Narveson
THC64 Juan Uribe
THC65 Tony Gwynn Jr.
THC66 David Wright
THC67 Miguel Cairo
THC68 Edgar Renteria
THC69 Victor Martinez
THC70 Willy Aybar
THC71 Luke Hudson
THC72 Chuck James
THC73 Kris Benson
THC74 Garret Anderson
THC75
THC76 Tim Wakefield
THC77 Mike Piazza
THC78 Carlos Lee
THC79 Jim Edmonds
THC80 Joe Crede
THC81 Shawn Green
THC82 James Shields
THC83
THC84 Johan Santana
THC85 Ervin Santana
THC86 J.D. Drew
THC87 Nate Robertson
THC88 Chris Roberson
THC89
THC90 Pedro Feliz
THC91 Javier Valentin
THC92
THC93 Carlos Beltran
THC94 Brad Ausmus
THC95 Freddy Garcia
THC96 Erik Bedard
THC97 Carlos Zambrano
THC98 J.J. Putz
THC99 Brian McCann
THC100 Ricky Nolasco
THC101
THC102 Chris Young
THC103 Chad Tracy
THC104 B.J. Ryan
THC105 Joe Mauer
THC106 Akinori Otsuka
THC107 Joaquin Arias
THC108 Andre Ethier
THC109 David Wright
THC110 Ichiro

1958 A.L. Home Run Champion (is there such a thing as too many Mantle cards???)
MMHRC-1 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-2 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-3 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-4 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-5 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-6 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-7 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-8 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-9 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-10 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-11 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-12 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-13 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-14 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-15 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-16 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-17 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-18 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-19 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-20 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-21 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-22 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-23 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-24 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-25 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-26 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-27 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-28 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-29 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-30 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-31 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-32 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-33 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-34 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-35 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-36 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-37 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-38 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-39 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-40 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-41 Mickey Mantle
MMHRC-42 Mickey Mantle

New Age Performers
NAP-RH Ryan Howard
NAP-AR Alex Rodriguez
NAP-AS Alfonso Soriano
NAP-DO David Ortiz
NAP-TH Trevor Hoffman
NAP-DJ Derek Jeter
NAP-AAS Anibal Sanchez
NAP-RC Roger Clemens
NAP-JS Johan Santana
NAP-AP Albert Pujols
NAP-CJ Chipper Jones
NAP-FT Frank Thomas
NAP-IR Ivan Rodriguez
NAP-IS Ichiro
NAP-CB Craig Biggio

Then and Now
T&N-RH Ryan Howard
T&N-DO David Ortiz
T&N-JM Joe Mauer
T&N-JR Jose Reyes
T&N-JS Johan Santana
T&N-AH Aaron Harang
T&N-IS Ichiro
T&N-TH Travis Hafner
T&N-FR Francisco Rodriguez
T&N-CW Chien-Ming Wang

Flashbacks
FB-SM Stan Musial
FB-AK Al Kaline
FB-BR Brooks Robinson
FB-RS Red Schoendienst
FB-LA Luis Aparicio
FB-WS Warren Spahn
FB-HS Hank Sauer
FB-LB Lew Burdette
FB-EY Eddie Yost
FB-JB Jim Bunning

Real One Autographs
ROA-AK Al Kaline
ROA-BH Bob Henrich
ROA-BM Bobby Morgan
ROA-BP Buddy Pritchard
ROA-BR Brooks Robinson
ROA-BT Bill Taylor
ROA-BW Bill Wight
ROA-CH Chuck Harmon
ROA-CJD Jim Derrington
ROA-CR Charley Rabe
ROA-DL Don Larsen
ROA-DM Dave Melton
ROA-DS Duke Snider
ROA-DW David Wright
ROA-DWW Dontrelle Willis
ROA-DY Delmon Young
ROA-DZ Don Zimmer
ROA-EM Ed Mayer
ROA-GK George Kell
ROA-HP Harding Peterson
ROA-JC Joe Caffie
ROA-JD Joe Durham
ROA-JL Joe Lonnett
ROA-JM Justin Morneau
ROA-JP Johnny Podres
ROA-LA Luis Aparicio
ROA-LM Lloyd Merritt
ROA-LS Lou Sleater
ROA-MB Milt Bolling
ROA-MEB Mack Burk
ROA-OH Orlando Hudson
ROA-PS Paul Smith
ROA-RC Ray Crone
ROA-RH Ryan Howard
ROA-RS Red Schoendienst
ROA-SP Stan Palys
ROA-TT Tim Thompson

Real One Special Edition (????)
ROA-AK Al Kaline
ROA-BH Bob Henrich
ROA-BM Bobby Morgan
ROA-BP Buddy Pritchard
ROA-BR Brooks Robinson
ROA-BT Bill Taylor
ROA-BW Bill Wight
ROA-CH Chuck Harmon
ROA-CJD Jim Derrington
ROA-CR Charley Rabe
ROA-DL Don Larsen
ROA-DM Dave Melton
ROA-DS Duke Snider
ROA-DW David Wright
ROA-DWW Dontrelle Willis
ROA-DY Delmon Young
ROA-DZ Don Zimmer
ROA-EM Ed Mayer
ROA-GK George Kell
ROA-HP Harding Peterson
ROA-JC Joe Caffie
ROA-JD Joe Durham
ROA-JL Joe Lonnett
ROA-JM Justin Morneau
ROA-JP Johnny Podres
ROA-LA Luis Aparicio
ROA-LM Lloyd Merritt
ROA-LS Lou Sleater
ROA-MB Milt Bolling
ROA-MEB Mack Burk
ROA-OH Orlando Hudson
ROA-PS Paul Smith
ROA-RC Ray Crone
ROA-RH Ryan Howard
ROA-RS Red Schoendienst
ROA-SP Stan Palys
ROA-TT Tim Thompson

Flashback
FBA-SM Stan Musial
FBA-AK Al Kaline
FBA-BR Brooks Robinson
FBA-RS Red Schoendienst
FBA-LA Luis Aparicio

1958 Cut Signatures
CS-MM Mickey Mantle
CS-TW Ted Williams
CS-RM Roger Maris

Clubhouse Collection Relics
CC-SM Stan Musial
CC-DS Duke Snider
CC-FR Frank Robinson
CC-BR Brooks Robinson
CC-YB Yogi Berra
CC-AK Al Kaline
CC-AW Adam Wainwright
CC-AJP Albert Pujols
CC-AR Alex Rodriguez
CC-ALR Anthony Reyes
CC-BU B.J. Upton
CC-BZ Barry Zito
CC-BS Ben Sheets
CC-BW Billy Wagner
CC-BR Brian Roberts
CC-CU Chase Utley
CC-CJ Chipper Jones
CC-CC Chris Carpenter
CC-CD Chris Duncan
CC-CJ Conor Jackson
CC-DE David Eckstein
CC-DO David Ortiz
CC-DW David Wright
CC-DY Delmon Young
CC-DWW Dontrelle Willis
CC-DM Doug Mientkiewicz
CC-ER Edgar Renteria
CC-EC Eric Chavez
CC-ES Ervin Santana
CC-FL Francisco Liriano
CC-GS Gary Sheffield
CC-HB Hank Blalock
CC-IR Ivan Rodriguez
CC-JS Jeff Suppan
CC-JW Jeff Weaver
CC-JR Jimmy Rollins
CC-JD Johnny Damon
CC-JL Jon Lester
CC-JRP Jorge Posada
CC-JBR Jose Reyes
CC-JV Jose Vidro
CC-JP Juan Pierre
CC-JM Justin Morneau
CC-LB Lance Berkman
CC-LG Luis Gonzalez
CC-MO Magglio Ordonez
CC-MR Manny Ramirez
CC-MK Mark Kotsay
CC-MT Mark Teixeira
CC-MM Melvin Mora
CC-MC Miguel Cabrera
CC-MOT Miguel Tejada
CC-MP Mike Piazza
CC-MA Moises Alou
CC-NS Nick Swisher
CC-OV Omar Vizquel
CC-PB Pat Burrell
CC-PP Placido Polanco
CC-RF Rafael Furcal
CC-RS Richie Sexson
CC-RB Ronnie Belliard
CC-RH Ryan Howard
CC-TH Todd Helton
CC-TKH Torii Hunter
CC-VM Victor Martinez
CC-YM Yadier Molina

Clubhouse Collection Dual Relic
CCDR-MP Stan Musial/Albert Pujols
CCDR-BR Yogi Berra/Alex Rodriguez
CCDR-KR Al Kaline/Ivan Rodriguez

Flashbacks Relics
FBR-SM Stan Musial
FBR-AK Al Kaline
FBR-BR Brooks Robinson
FBR-RS Red Schoendienst
FBR-LA Luis Aparicio
FBR-WS Warren Spahn
FBR-HS Hank Sauer
FBR-LB Lew Burdette
FBR-EY Eddie Yost
FBR-JB Jim Bunning

Dual Flashbacks
DFBR-SS Duke Snider/Hank Sauer
DFBR-DS Duke Snider
DFBR-HS Hank Sauer

Clubhouse Collection Autographed Relics
CCA-SM Stan Musial
CCA-DS Duke Snider
CCA-FR Frank Robinson
CCA-BR Brooks Robinson
CCA-YB Yogi Berra
CCA-LA Luis Aparicio

Flashbacks Autographed Relics
FBRA-SM Stan Musial
FBRA-AK Al Kaline
FBRA-BR Brooks Robinson
FBRA-RS Red Schoendienst
FBRA-LA Luis Aparicio

Box Loader Pennants
Los Angeles Dodgers
Washington Senators
San Francisco Giants
Boston Red Sox
Cincinnati Redlegs
Pittsburgh Pirates
Milwauke Braves
Chicago Cubs
Baltimore Orioles
New York Yankees
Cleveland Indians
St. Louis Cardinals
Kansas City Athletics
Detriot Tigers
Chicago White Sox
Philadelphia Phillies

ArchStanton · December 17, 2006 10:21AM

After Geordie's post on Friday, I stopped to see a local dealer and told him that I would take a case. I hope they don't move the release date.

joestalin · December 17, 2006 2:36PM

I hope you all allow me to voice my opinion over this info. I have talked it over with another heritage buddy of mine and
we have come to the same conclusion. This product looks weak.

I said the same thing last year and in part I was right. Topps has now gone through with my worst nightmare...

OVERPRODUCTION

You dont need to be a Scientist to see that they have increased the number of boxes per case and decreased the number of chromes
per box..that only means more packs, which means all the other good stuff including the "amazing" autos will be even more
hard to pull.

There are also some glaring changes. From what I see there will be 1/1 cards?? Also 9 Arod cards per box....this is 9 less cards
that we can use for the set, and if you consider the Arod set, part of the master set, then this set will get even more hard
and more expensive to put together. Do we really need all these Arod and Mantle cards, where the only difference is a number
on the front?

......ok, so some might like that chase.....lets get on to autos....yes, you know, the real chase in this product.....even though they might
not say it, people ripping packs are looking for the ink...afterall it would be way cheaper just to buy a set a month into it on ebay.

The auto list is once again weak. There are only 3 big names on the retired side, and those three all sign plenty of cards. Wright and Howard
are nice additions,but everyone else is weak, and will be huge disappointments as they will most likely be case hits!

I would caution anyone from pre ordering this stuff. I think there will be plenty of supply here. If its anything like BDP baseball, topps will
LOAD up the retail stores. I would wait until more info is know, especially the auto pull odds.

The cuts are a slap in the face, considering no one has seen the three they put in last years product!

Thanks
Kevin

ArchStanton · December 18, 2006 12:08AM

JS 2006 Heritage prediction

Do the 2007 numbers mean that Topps increased production by 50% over last year? I think Kevin is right to predict that Topps will eventually beat this set into the ground. How many Mantles and ARods do you want? Anyone need a Mickey Mantle homerun #1 card?

That being said, I still intend to put this set together. When I really get sick of it (maybe 2008), I'll just buy a master set, and say nuts to the ripping and the gum.

Munson15 · December 18, 2006 1:13AM

I loved the A&G set and tried to start the 2006 Heritage Set, but I got the base set on ebay for $14 and then found it a little too hard to get ALL the SP's....

This year i might buy a box and collect just the players I want and trade the rest...there are too many SP's (if they countinue from last years number) and too many sub sets to really enjoy...3 case to build the set, ouch. Meanwhile 1 box, 2 blaster boxes and some trading and boom A&G is done!!!!!

joestalin · December 18, 2006 1:23AM

A&G was a nice set, and easy for set builders. Heritage is a different beast. Heck the A&G set is probably easier to put together than
the New Age set in heritage, not to mention the master set! Every year I have 5 of 1 card and none of the other. Trading is the way
to go.

Its hard to guage the production numbers and give a % increase, but I wouldn't doubt maybe 30% increase. That only means a watered
down product. We all know the value in this product comes from short prints, which hopefully will still be 1:2 packs, and GU and chromes.
In the past, I have recouped some of my money from chrome set builders..this really helps. 2 per box means less. I bet the refractors
won't even be one per box..that sucks.

Be cautious here, I am the first to understand that not everything is about money, but topps knows that this is a set builders set, and
can water it down and overproduce it and not alot of people will know. We need to stand by the fact that topps CAN make a product
thats fun AND worth the money.

Kevin

Lothar52 · December 18, 2006 2:31PM

it has to be one of Topps biggest money makers for sure....anyone notice a case has 4 more boxes this year???

joestalin · December 18, 2006 2:45PM

Topps makes little in comparison on products like these. If you really want to see how topps and UD (for the longest time) makes money
on products, take a look at bowman originals....80.00 a pack for two autographed cards....90% of the cards in the auto set arn't worth
10 bucks, and probably cost topps maybe a few bucks a graph. Heck even a nice David Wright auto out of that product is only getting
30 or so dollars!

High end is where the big money is at, Its much easier to make money on an 80 dollar product yielding mostly 10 dollar graphs, then
a 2.99 product with maybe 50 cents of production cost in it.

Kevin

Pharber · December 22, 2006 4:51AM

Ok, I'm in the big pool this year.
Just purchased two cases of 07s on pre-sell.
Not a bad price. It works out to $57.42 a box or $2.39 per pack.
1958s were the first set I collected as a kid and the first vintage set I put together as an adult.
Sixty-seven days to its release. Will be looking for traders to complete sets.
Hope the collation is better than last year. I bought three cases and couldn't put a complete master set together. Go figure.

Bunker · December 22, 2006 11:07AM

<< <i>Just purchased two cases of 07s on pre-sell >>

Did you do that through your local dealer?

Pharber · December 22, 2006 11:46PM

I got 'em from lrcards.com. Have been buying heritage from them for last three years

ArchStanton · December 28, 2006 6:37AM

One of the local card shop owners called me today. He is able to order '07 Heritage. I am getting a case from him for $675 plus 6% PA sales tax.

This is going to be a long two months.

Pharber · December 31, 2006 4:19AM

Comparing last year's pre-sell price of 2006 Topps Heritage per case ($488 a case, $61 a box) this year's edition ($689 a case, $57.42 a box) is less expensive. Distributors must be paying less. Does that mean Topps is printing more cards?

fsjeter · January 3, 2007 1:37AM

So far the only Pre-sell numbers I have seen have been Dave & Adams at $680.00/case with $136.00 down. Anybody see any others?

Scott

Stone193 · January 3, 2007 4:27AM

<< <i>So far the only Pre-sell numbers I have seen have been Dave & Adams at $680.00/case with $136.00 down. Anybody see any others?

Scott >>

Scott

I'm going to my local card shop on Saturday and see what he can do.

I'm guessing that all deals are gonna be with a buck or two of each other per box - which isn't that big a deal.

Good luck
mike

Stone193 · January 3, 2007 4:31AM

At least there year there WILL be a boxtopper again.

Felt discs of teams.

I'll be armed with my credit card!

mike

BigRedMachine · January 3, 2007 6:35AM

I've been here on the Heritage bandwagon the last two years and am seriously considering letting it pass me by this year. It's been fun to crack packs and trade and work on the set, but last year was less fun for me.

4 hobby boxes, and 12 blaster boxes left me with zero black refractors and zero auto's. And the Gordon card really sucked too, as I now will never "really" finish the set. Even with all the trades I did with you guys, I'm still about 10 cards short of my '06 set. And if the product is more watered down this year........

Anyway, I may pass.

shawn

Pharber · January 3, 2007 7:12AM

What cards you need? Maybe I can help. I have some left over.

Last year wasn't the same as the last few years, which were great sets. I think Topps muddied the art work too much and made what was the best set they ever issued into crap.

But my first year of collecting was '58 so I'm back. I really like the Howard and Morneau cards that have been displayed in the sell sheets. I liked the '58 set because you saw the players face to face, those portraits were the first real up close photos of many of the players. I don't like the checklist issued by Topps. I never cared for the refracs or the subsets. Now they are adding these silly A-rod cards, which I'll quickly dump on EBay. I'm not going to chase the Mantle cards, either.

fsjeter · January 4, 2007 3:15AM

Just like in 1958, there will not be a card #145 in the 2007 set. I wonder if Topps will sneak in a few #433 Adrian Beltr cards to mirror the 1958 #433 Pancho Herrer (Herrera) error.

Scott

Pharber · January 16, 2007 2:23AM

FYI,
The sell sheets are on the Internet

http://www.gcxonline.com/ss_baseball.htm

1980scollector · January 16, 2007 4:45AM

First I am still working on the 06 set and love the cards! I agree it is MUCH MUCH cheaper to buy a few boxes and have chasers sell you their cards for pennies on the dollar at the show(Sp's and base cards).

I will probably buy around 4 hobby boxes, 10 blaster boxes and will work on the thing for a year or so! I am still trying to finish 06 but it is fun to chase the cards.

I have NEVER EVER pulled a decent black refractor and one autograph(Joe Kloppenstein football).

I bought over two CASES of football heritage and man it is brutal to never get a card worth a crap other than SP's, chromes and refractors,

I could buy two jordan rookies for what I put into heritage football!

I was able to build just about 4 master sets from all my boxes and buying singles from guys who chase the autographs!

I am addicted to it and just buy the autos online(not the same as pulling them though).

I will build a 07 set for sure!

I sure do wish though my thousands of dollars I spend on wax would just once give me a special autograph once to keep forever!

My step mother got me the Joe Namath for 60.00 on ebay!

I do love the set though and am just addicted to it!

They(topps) got me right where they want me

TZAHL · January 18, 2007 5:23AM

How does $359 for a retail case sound??? 8 boxes

TNP777 · January 18, 2007 5:33AM

<< <i>How does $359 for a retail case sound??? 8 boxes >>

That's a comfirmed price? Sounds pretty good. Man, those retail cases were sure nice for some last year.

Geordie

TZAHL · January 18, 2007 5:46AM

Ya, that is what was offered to me. Dealer actually sent an email to me. It is nice to have good relationships between buyer/seller!

magellan · January 18, 2007 10:35AM

I got the same deal as Travis.....$359 plus shipping for an 8 box retail case. One of the guys I dealt with last year emailed . He has boxea (again retail) for $46 plus shipping.

Dave

gopokes99 · January 18, 2007 11:17PM

Would you guys mind sharing who you are buying the retail cases from?

Pharber · January 19, 2007 12:03AM

I want to know who is selling them for $359 a case, because that's an incredible price!

First, I tried to buy them from a distributor at $417.68 for an 8-box case, but you had to have a store and since I didn't, I couldn't.

So I bought them from the dealer I got them last year at $689 (for an 12-box case), which is $57.42 a box and $2.39 per pack.

That's better than last year when I paid approximately $61 per box ($2.54 per pack)

You're paying $395 for an 8-box case. That's $44.87 per box and $1.70 per pack!

First impulse is to buy more. Second impulse is to wonder how many cards is Topps printing.

TZAHL · January 19, 2007 4:55PM

His ebay user name is Lockwood I think or something like that. His name is John Lockwood. He has a website for non sport. You may want to look him up. I bought 2 cases of 07 and 12 blaster boxes of 06 (ya, still trying to finish my sets) for $13 each. GREAT PRICES and he has wonderful feedback.

Travis

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