@HATTRICK said:
Morgan & Peace subscriptions have shipped. My backorder from yesterday is now processing.
Just looked and my back ordered Morgans now shows processing as well. Guess they needed to do an overnight inventory check after shipping out the batches yesterday. (Fingers crossed)
@UpGrayedd said:
Both my Morgan and Peace have shipped with expected delivery on Saturday to my PO Box. I haven't ordered anything from the Mint since 2021, and I can't remember. Does anyone know if the Mint requires signature confirmation, because my local post office doesn't have counter service on the weekend.
@UpGrayedd said:
Both my Morgan and Peace have shipped with expected delivery on Saturday to my PO Box. I haven't ordered anything from the Mint since 2021, and I can't remember. Does anyone know if the Mint requires signature confirmation, because my local post office doesn't have counter service on the weekend.
@JWP said:
I have 2 peace dollars and 1 Morgan dolar out for delivery today. My other 2 subscriptions (2 peace & 3 morgans) are still processing.
Sounds like JWP might have 🤠
Nope, just the subscription option. My mint orders come from the Memphs fulfillment center hub.
I just cannot say enough good things about the subscription option. This is fabulous and it solves the problem of fighting with the flippers and their pet bots for a place in line. I have been able to subscribe to most of the coins I collect/want, and it relieves so much stress and anxiety (like we felt with the release of the 2021 Morgan and Peace dollars and other pre-subscription hot issues). Kudos to the Mint! I feel SO sorry for the flippers, bots, and masochists who enjoy the release day chaos!
So they didn't update my credit card over the weekend and I called immediately yesterday morning to get that updated. Orders showed no problem.
So yesterday they disappeared... But I still have the charges pending. I called today and they said it's a known issue when the order gets updated like that. They said it will reappear shortly. 😬🤞
@Jzyskowski1 said:
Your going to have to pick it up at the counter. Home delivery is a wee bit different. Sometimes the carrier decides to drop it off at your house.
OK. I do not have a P.O. Box. So, I defer to your 'experience/expertise' regarding P.O. Box procedures.
In my defense, @UpGrayedd specifically asked if the Mint required a signature confirmation. As such, I assumed that this factor was relevant to his particular situation.
I guess this is now off topic for this thread: the 2024 subscriptions for the Morgan and Peace uncs are down to 2 and 1550, respectively. The mintage is listed at 275000 again. I imagine that the mint could change their mind on the mintage limit, which, in turn, would change the available subscriptions. But if everything stays unchanged, then it is likely that both will be fully subscribed before 2024. My guess is that the mint will raise the mintage limit for the uncs.
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@SPalladino said:
I guess this is now off topic for this thread: the 2024 subscriptions for the Morgan and Peace uncs are down to 2 and 1550, respectively. The mintage is listed at 275000 again. I imagine that the mint could change their mind on the mintage limit, which, in turn, would change the available subscriptions. But if everything stays unchanged, then it is likely that both will be fully subscribed before 2024. My guess is that the mint will raise the mintage limit for the uncs.
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Thanks for all the updates you posted on the '23s
@SPalladino said:
I guess this is now off topic for this thread: the 2024 subscriptions for the Morgan and Peace uncs are down to 2 and 1550, respectively. The mintage is listed at 275000 again. I imagine that the mint could change their mind on the mintage limit, which, in turn, would change the available subscriptions. But if everything stays unchanged, then it is likely that both will be fully subscribed before 2024. My guess is that the mint will raise the mintage limit for the uncs.
Do you guys think they will lower the limit again for the '24 M&P coins to 3, to allow collectors to get in first? How would that work? Is it worth increasing my subscriptions over 3?
@SPalladino said:
I guess this is now off topic for this thread: the 2024 subscriptions for the Morgan and Peace uncs are down to 2 and 1550, respectively. The mintage is listed at 275000 again. I imagine that the mint could change their mind on the mintage limit, which, in turn, would change the available subscriptions. But if everything stays unchanged, then it is likely that both will be fully subscribed before 2024. My guess is that the mint will raise the mintage limit for the uncs.
I think you should start the official thread for 2024 along with your updates. That should keep you busy for another year.
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I may have made a big mistake! My Morgan and Peace dollars are being shipped from China (by boat) from the Wuhan Institute of Virology and Emergency Backup China Mint. Now I'm sacred to even open the box when it comes. If instead of a capsule, it gets shipped in a test tube, I'm screwed.
@JWP said:
I have 2 peace dollars and 1 Morgan dolar out for delivery today. My other 2 subscriptions (2 peace & 3 morgans) are still processing.
Sounds like JWP might have 🤠
Nope, just the subscription option. My mint orders come from the Memphs fulfillment center hub.
I just cannot say enough good things about the subscription option. This is fabulous and it solves the problem of fighting with the flippers and their pet bots for a place in line. I have been able to subscribe to most of the coins I collect/want, and it relieves so much stress and anxiety (like we felt with the release of the 2021 Morgan and Peace dollars and other pre-subscription hot issues). Kudos to the Mint! I feel SO sorry for the flippers, bots, and masochists who enjoy the release day chaos!
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Anyone else have an order on backorder ? From today or subscription.
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Is it possible the backorder everyone who ordered today? Especially since you were in so early? Maybe -hopefully- clearing the trouble makers out?
Not on mine right now.
I thought my subscriptions might have gotten messed up, since the first time I did them they disappeared....2nd time showed as TBD up through the night before (2 nights ago), so I ordered 1 of each yesterday morning. Email @ 9:03am PST saying order received. 12:08pm email saying order confirmed.
My 2 subscriptions (peace + morgan) shipped last night (one will arrive Tues and the other Weds).
I just looked at my order from yesterday says nothing about backorder and, under shipping status just says "processing".
So, we shall see. If they did mess up yesterday, I am covered by the subscriptions. If they all still come through, I'm fine with that too...only 1 extra of each from yesterday and I'm sure I can re-home them if needed.
@SPalladino said:
I guess this is now off topic for this thread: the 2024 subscriptions for the Morgan and Peace uncs are down to 2 and 1550, respectively. The mintage is listed at 275000 again. I imagine that the mint could change their mind on the mintage limit, which, in turn, would change the available subscriptions. But if everything stays unchanged, then it is likely that both will be fully subscribed before 2024. My guess is that the mint will raise the mintage limit for the uncs.
Do you guys think they will lower the limit again for the '24 M&P coins to 3, to allow collectors to get in first? How would that work? Is it worth increasing my subscriptions over 3?
Pure conjecture, but I think things worked out quite well for the mint on these uncs. So, I wonder why would they mess with a good thing?
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I imagine they will look at return rates on folks that subscribed to close to or at the HHL. If the returns are high, then that might be a reason for them to reduce the HHL.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
@SPalladino said:
I guess this is now off topic for this thread: the 2024 subscriptions for the Morgan and Peace uncs are down to 2 and 1550, respectively. The mintage is listed at 275000 again. I imagine that the mint could change their mind on the mintage limit, which, in turn, would change the available subscriptions. But if everything stays unchanged, then it is likely that both will be fully subscribed before 2024. My guess is that the mint will raise the mintage limit for the uncs.
I think you should start the official thread for 2024 along with your updates. That should keep you busy for another year.
I'm not sure why I started tracking the subscriptions in the first place (maybe because folks thought that the subscriptions were not filling up and were indicative of this not being a popular issue). It has been entertaining for me, but I see no reason to do the same in 2024, other than to see what happens with subscription reductions for the uncs going into 2024, if any.
I will complete the tracking for the 2023 proofs. BTW, it appears that the ABPP may have taken order of only about 20,050 of each, instead of the ~40K (10% of mintage) accessible to the ABPP.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Sorry guys, this wasn’t me getting the coin in hand but instead I wanted to show you all what these were going for in the secondary market as actual sales instead of pre-sales. I get one of the coins tomorrow but I can’t remember which one.
Sorry guys, this wasn’t me getting the coin in hand but instead I wanted to show you all what these were going for in the secondary market as actual sales instead of pre-sales. I get one of the coins tomorrow but I can’t remember which one.
Why not just look on ebay? [$100 with no place to go but down.]
Sorry guys, this wasn’t me getting the coin in hand but instead I wanted to show you all what these were going for in the secondary market as actual sales instead of pre-sales. I get one of the coins tomorrow but I can’t remember which one.
Why not just look on ebay? [$100 with no place to go but down.]
Ah, true. I hadn’t checked back ebay since the release yesterday and thought maybe with the somewhat quick sellout that the market might have repriced. I wonder how long there will continue to be a dislocation between the two auction sites?
Why are the reverse proofs still available for subscriptions when their mintage is "only" 250,000, compared to 275,000 and 400,000 for the uncirculated which are basically sold out, and proofs which the mintage is too high?
They should look really good, and they may not be minted in 2024 like the others seem to be.
@Goldminers said:
Why are the reverse proofs still available for subscriptions when their mintage is "only" 250,000, compared to 275,000 and 400,000 for the uncirculated which are basically sold out, and proofs which the mintage is too high?
They should look really good, and they may not be minted in 2024 like the others seem to be.
125,000 of the 2022 type 1&2 ase’s reverse proof set. They haven’t been a big success value wise. Resale and such. Dunno. It’s interesting. From my point of view I’m curious if the Morgan and Peace Dollar will have a desirable effect on collectors. The 2022 Fuji issues are not bad. We’ll see. Thanks 🙏
@Goldminers said:
Why are the reverse proofs still available for subscriptions when their mintage is "only" 250,000, compared to 275,000 and 400,000 for the uncirculated which are basically sold out, and proofs which the mintage is too high?
They should look really good, and they may not be minted in 2024 like the others seem to be.
It’s because of the HHL of 5, instead of 25 on the others. They are more evenly distributed and harder to obtain in quantities, so when 1 person drops their subscription, a few become available and they are snapped up. These will be winners
@Goldminers said: Why are the reverse proofs still available for subscriptions when their mintage is "only" 250,000, compared to 275,000 and 400,000 for the uncirculated which are basically sold out, and proofs which the mintage is too high?
They should look really good, and they may not be minted in 2024 like the others seem to be.
At the time of this post, the only unavailable M&P subscription was the two-coin RP set.
My GUESS - when you saw it available, there were only a handful available . @SPalladino can probably provide more insight regarding recent availability.
Not a naysayer or doomsayer, and I pre-ordered one of each, but I can see demand and interest falling off a cliff for most of these issues - waaaaaaay too many issued. Well, glad for everybody's enthusiasm!
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
@7Jaguars said:
Not a naysayer or doomsayer, and I pre-ordered one of each, but I can see demand and interest falling off a cliff for most of these issues - waaaaaaay too many issued. Well, glad for everybody's enthusiasm!
At under $100 on eBay already I’d say your about right 👍🏼
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Just looked and my back ordered Morgans now shows processing as well. Guess they needed to do an overnight inventory check after shipping out the batches yesterday. (Fingers crossed)
Source: https://catalog.usmint.gov/customer-service/shipping.html
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Here are the current options for real-time, website purchases:
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Do not currently see the signature option in the subscription program:
Nope, just the subscription option. My mint orders come from the Memphs fulfillment center hub.
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Your going to have to pick it up at the counter. Home delivery is a wee bit different. Sometimes the carrier decides to drop it off at your house.
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
I just cannot say enough good things about the subscription option. This is fabulous and it solves the problem of fighting with the flippers and their pet bots for a place in line. I have been able to subscribe to most of the coins I collect/want, and it relieves so much stress and anxiety (like we felt with the release of the 2021 Morgan and Peace dollars and other pre-subscription hot issues). Kudos to the Mint! I feel SO sorry for the flippers, bots, and masochists who enjoy the release day chaos!
They still have the peace dollars available right now just snagged a few
Peace gone.
Not gone. Just “remind me “. 😂🙀🧐
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
So they didn't update my credit card over the weekend and I called immediately yesterday morning to get that updated. Orders showed no problem.
So yesterday they disappeared... But I still have the charges pending. I called today and they said it's a known issue when the order gets updated like that. They said it will reappear shortly. 😬🤞
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https://www.ebay.com/str/thefourthcoin
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Oh no, sorry about that.
OK. I do not have a P.O. Box. So, I defer to your 'experience/expertise' regarding P.O. Box procedures.
In my defense, @UpGrayedd specifically asked if the Mint required a signature confirmation. As such, I assumed that this factor was relevant to his particular situation.
I guess this is now off topic for this thread: the 2024 subscriptions for the Morgan and Peace uncs are down to 2 and 1550, respectively. The mintage is listed at 275000 again. I imagine that the mint could change their mind on the mintage limit, which, in turn, would change the available subscriptions. But if everything stays unchanged, then it is likely that both will be fully subscribed before 2024. My guess is that the mint will raise the mintage limit for the uncs.
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Thanks for all the updates you posted on the '23s
Looking forward to the '24s....
Got upgraded from "back ordered" to "processing" for me today!
Peace probably not completely gone. The Peace dollars may be back, but peace in the world is totally gone!
Do you guys think they will lower the limit again for the '24 M&P coins to 3, to allow collectors to get in first? How would that work? Is it worth increasing my subscriptions over 3?
I think you should start the official thread for 2024 along with your updates. That should keep you busy for another year.
My Morgan Dollars shipped today and the Peace is still in processing.
Here is my Washington Quarter Variety Registry Set
This is my Washington Quarter Proof Variety Registry Set
Both Morgan and Peace Have Shipped for me
Morgan is being shipped from Texas
Peace Is Being Shipped From Memphis
Same here. Morgan is coming from TX.
Who's going to be the first to actually have these coins in hand and post an image?
I may have made a big mistake! My Morgan and Peace dollars are being shipped from China (by boat) from the Wuhan Institute of Virology and Emergency Backup China Mint. Now I'm sacred to even open the box when it comes. If instead of a capsule, it gets shipped in a test tube, I'm screwed.
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FYI, this just went down…
My Peace dollars shipped yesterday and the Morgans have not. CC was dinged for both.
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
They still have the 2021 Liberty high relief gold as "remind me."
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
jeffas1974 wins the race!!!!
How does it look in hand?
Perhaps several pictures please. Thanks 🙏
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
Not on mine right now.
I thought my subscriptions might have gotten messed up, since the first time I did them they disappeared....2nd time showed as TBD up through the night before (2 nights ago), so I ordered 1 of each yesterday morning. Email @ 9:03am PST saying order received. 12:08pm email saying order confirmed.
My 2 subscriptions (peace + morgan) shipped last night (one will arrive Tues and the other Weds).
I just looked at my order from yesterday says nothing about backorder and, under shipping status just says "processing".
So, we shall see. If they did mess up yesterday, I am covered by the subscriptions. If they all still come through, I'm fine with that too...only 1 extra of each from yesterday and I'm sure I can re-home them if needed.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Pure conjecture, but I think things worked out quite well for the mint on these uncs. So, I wonder why would they mess with a good thing?
.
.
....oh yeah....its the mint.
.
.
I imagine they will look at return rates on folks that subscribed to close to or at the HHL. If the returns are high, then that might be a reason for them to reduce the HHL.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
I'm not sure why I started tracking the subscriptions in the first place (maybe because folks thought that the subscriptions were not filling up and were indicative of this not being a popular issue). It has been entertaining for me, but I see no reason to do the same in 2024, other than to see what happens with subscription reductions for the uncs going into 2024, if any.
I will complete the tracking for the 2023 proofs. BTW, it appears that the ABPP may have taken order of only about 20,050 of each, instead of the ~40K (10% of mintage) accessible to the ABPP.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Ok, Ok here we go,,, Morgan to follow shortly
Sorry guys, this wasn’t me getting the coin in hand but instead I wanted to show you all what these were going for in the secondary market as actual sales instead of pre-sales. I get one of the coins tomorrow but I can’t remember which one.
Why not just look on ebay? [$100 with no place to go but down.]
Ah, true. I hadn’t checked back ebay since the release yesterday and thought maybe with the somewhat quick sellout that the market might have repriced. I wonder how long there will continue to be a dislocation between the two auction sites?
Get em while their hot. Both available 👍🏼
7:30 am est 🤠
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
Morgans gone.
Peace available.
Put in bogus order for 99 and it allowed it.
Morgan’s available on eBay. OHP $97😳🙀🤨
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
Peace is gone
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Of note, both my Peace(Priority) and Morgan(First Class) shipped on Thursday, will have in hand today, Saturday
Does the Mint have priority status with USPS?
I have another Priority USP package coming from Great Collections shipped on that same Thursday, and it won't arrive until Tuesday.
That’s a great question. They certainly do a large volume. Maybe 🤔
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Why are the reverse proofs still available for subscriptions when their mintage is "only" 250,000, compared to 275,000 and 400,000 for the uncirculated which are basically sold out, and proofs which the mintage is too high?
They should look really good, and they may not be minted in 2024 like the others seem to be.
National Commemorative Medals of the U.S. Mint:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/medals-tokens/national-commemorative-medals-united-states-mint-1940-present/alltimeset/195526
125,000 of the 2022 type 1&2 ase’s reverse proof set. They haven’t been a big success value wise. Resale and such. Dunno. It’s interesting. From my point of view I’m curious if the Morgan and Peace Dollar will have a desirable effect on collectors. The 2022 Fuji issues are not bad. We’ll see. Thanks 🙏
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
It’s because of the HHL of 5, instead of 25 on the others. They are more evenly distributed and harder to obtain in quantities, so when 1 person drops their subscription, a few become available and they are snapped up. These will be winners
At the time of this post, the only unavailable M&P subscription was the two-coin RP set.
Source: https://catalog.usmint.gov/morgan-and-peace-dollar-2023-two-coin-reverse-proof-set-subscription-NL.html
My GUESS - when you saw it available, there were only a handful available . @SPalladino can probably provide more insight regarding recent availability.
Yes, I was looking early in the morning so was probably only a few like you point out.
The 2024 Morgan is still remind me status whenever I look.
National Commemorative Medals of the U.S. Mint:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/medals-tokens/national-commemorative-medals-united-states-mint-1940-present/alltimeset/195526
Not a naysayer or doomsayer, and I pre-ordered one of each, but I can see demand and interest falling off a cliff for most of these issues - waaaaaaay too many issued. Well, glad for everybody's enthusiasm!
Well, just Love coins, period.
At under $100 on eBay already I’d say your about right 👍🏼
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
Yes the 21 Peace was around that. Now they are $225 in 69.
And those collectors that have the 21 will want the 23 and the 24 etc.
The classic Peace set is relatively easy to accomplish. Add these moderns and it's very attainable. More reason for continued demand.
The 21 Morgans are steady on ebay for $150+. 800K mintage all mints. Again, the collector will want the 23, 24 etc.
The die is cast......