That first 200 certificate is interesting. I’m not a flipper but perhaps the best way to get a short-term profit is to flip your unopened mint sealed box.
@TopcatCoin said:
That first 200 certificate is interesting. I’m not a flipper but perhaps the best way to get a short-term profit is to flip your unopened mint sealed box.
Seems like a long shot. Checked eBay and didn’t see any, yet🤠
I just love these coins! IMO, they are the most classically beautiful coins ever created by the Mint. I am giddy excited to get these coins and will excitedly continue to collect them.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
flag label is more sought after with future buyers and brings more premium.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
To me I don’t put value on a first strike label. For these two coins as pictured I prefer the plain blue label. If I we’re to buy one it wouldn’t matter to me what label it was, it’s about the coin to me in this case.
@Bullsitter said:
I like the Flag label but the Blue label ain't bad either.
Which do you prefer?
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I prefer the look of the blue label. Not a fan of special labels. That said, I would actually prefer whichever I could get for the lowest acquisition cost.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
@Bullsitter said:
I like the Flag label but the Blue label ain't bad either.
Which do you prefer?
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I prefer the look of the blue label. Not a fan of special labels. That said, I would actually prefer whichever I could get for the lowest acquisition cost.
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Both were the same price.
He has sold 101 Flag labels and 1 Blue Label.
OK so my subs shipped late due to cc issues, which also apparently caused the orders to no longer show under my account. I got shipping notifications by text (no emails), for 2 orders a couple days ago. One was 1.9 lbs and the other 4 lbs so that was concerning... One from Texas and one from Louisville Kentucky. I hadn't heard anyone here reporting shipping from KY so that was confusing.
Turns out they are the subscription orders after all, after calling the mint since I had no other way to verify anything as the lookup option by number and email failed and they weren't showing on my account page. Additionally one of the links came through as usps even tho it's a ups number.
Current sales pages stocklevels for the 2023 Morgan and Peace dollars.
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Weird accounting.
For the proofs, it appears that they are listing day of release holdbacks and subscriptions combined into what is available to be sold on August 9. That leaves 20,050 that are not currently available as stocklevel. This may be the number procured by the ABPP (which is half the 40,000 that the ABPP technically cap out at).
For the RP set, it seems to be the other way around. Sales page stocklevel 57,834. Maybe ABPP + day of release holdbacks? (DoR holdbacks and ABPP maximum allotment figures to be about 50,000)
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Subscriptions.
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Subscriptions continue to be taken up for the 2024 Morgan and Peace uncs. Unsure of planned 2024 mintage, or HHL for the uncs in 2024. If the mint reduces HHL from 25, then many more subscriptions will become available, and the same effect would also be seen should the mint raise the mintage on the 2024 uncs.
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The 2023 RP set is essentially fully subscribed. I doubt that there will be large numbers of subscriptions coming available, given the low HHL, and the lower mintage of this product (versus, say, the Morgan and Peace uncs). Maybe a few here and there over the next 4 months.
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On July 4, the mint made a large number of subscriptions (> 20K) available for both of the proofs. This was likely due to mint housekeeping, and not large reductions of subscriptions by individuals. Since then, there has been a steady daily reduction of available subscriptions. At the rate of additional subscriptions after July 4, the Morgan proof will likely fully subscribe prior to August 9, while the Peace proof will likely not fully subscribe. (for reference, neither the Morgan unc or the Peace unc were fully subscribed immediately prior to day of release).
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Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
@Goldbully said:
Opened my box of 12 Peace $1's and found this little note.
From which shipping center did your box originate? Memphis or Texas?
Memphis.
Thank you. I wonder if these "Congratulations, X of 200" cards were only shipped out of Memphis.
My 1x Morgan was shipped from Texas. My 4x Peace was shipped from Memphis.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
I signed up very early once the subscription was offered and 3 were the maximum. I missed out on the 2021 D because I didn’t checkout fast enough. I put those in my box and went to order the others. By the time I went to checkout they were out of my box and it said unavailable. So that being said, I truly like the subscription. I don’t really like the idea that they made the maximum 25. I’m guessing they just don’t want to take a chance of them sitting there stagnant for awhile as people will decide not buy them like the 2021 silver Liberty. I think they like quick sellouts. Just my opinion.
It is most likely that all Peace were shipped from Memphis and all Morgan’s from Texas. That leaves the question of where are orders that include both coins are shipped from
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
@Jzyskowski1 said:
Anyone hear anything about peace dollars with signing certs? Maybe 🤔
It's Possible...she's signed other items. Of course, it would have been nice to have known beforehand and if they advertised it...thus hyping it up even more.
Do you have any of those Congratulations sets still unopened??? Maybe you have a gem awaiting!
(although, I think the signing below was just a unique signing opportunity at a show, after the fact...just trying to drive sales).
@Martin said:
To me I don’t put value on a first strike label. For these two coins as pictured I prefer the plain blue label. If I we’re to buy one it wouldn’t matter to me what label it was, it’s about the coin to me in this case.
That’s just me
Martin
some day it will be sold. Which do you think will bring a better premium?
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
@HATTRICK said:
It is most likely that all Peace were shipped from Memphis and all Morgan’s from Texas. That leaves the question of where are orders that include both coins are shipped from
I believe they may ship separately. Well, at least with subscriptions at least they did so if any orders on day off had both I'd assume the same.
Either way my peace will be here tomorrow and I'll report if there are any such cards.
@Martin said:
To me I don’t put value on a first strike label. For these two coins as pictured I prefer the plain blue label. If I we’re to buy one it wouldn’t matter to me what label it was, it’s about the coin to me in this case.
That’s just me
Martin
some day it will be sold. Which do you think will bring a better premium?
I’m guessing the flag label.
There seems to be a market for the first strike and that’s ok I’m just not a believer of the first strike label. For obvious reasons.
@Jzyskowski1 said:
Anyone hear anything about peace dollars with signing certs? Maybe 🤔
It's Possible...she's signed other items. Of course, it would have been nice to have known beforehand and if they advertised it...thus hyping it up even more.
Do you have any of those Congratulations sets still unopened??? Maybe you have a gem awaiting!
(although, I think the signing below was just a unique signing opportunity at a show, after the fact...just trying to drive sales).
Nope. Got a really beautiful coin but no signature except for the printed one. Thanks
Ofcourse they’re still available so that’s where the signed ones are 😂
@Jzyskowski1 said:
Nope. Got a really beautiful coin but no signature except for the printed one. Thanks
Ofcourse they’re still available so that’s where the signed ones are 😂
It looks like Only a few thousand left because the total mintage says 40,000
Morgan went fast. Peace dollar available
2 minutes peace dollars unavailable.
Faster and faster every day. Don’t know if anyone could have gotten the Morgan’s. There was enough time for the peace dollar if you were waiting for it. Thanks 🙏
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Get em. They’re up and available
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Morgan went quickly. Peace dollar available
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Morgan lasted less than a minute....
Yep, saw that too. Grabbed a Peace Dollar, but the Morgan was gone too quickly!
The Peace has blinked out again...
Peace dollar done. Plenty of time to get one
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That first 200 certificate is interesting. I’m not a flipper but perhaps the best way to get a short-term profit is to flip your unopened mint sealed box.
Seems like a long shot. Checked eBay and didn’t see any, yet🤠
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Would any of the bulk dealers get a 1 of 200? Subscriptions vs. opening day sales?
Technically 199 😉
Good question...I would hope not.
I just love these coins! IMO, they are the most classically beautiful coins ever created by the Mint. I am giddy excited to get these coins and will excitedly continue to collect them.
Lowest MS 70 price I could find
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
I like the Flag label but the Blue label ain't bad either.
Which do you prefer?
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The Flag label.
flag label is more sought after with future buyers and brings more premium.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Flag.
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Bought the Flag Set, get 'er over with.
To me I don’t put value on a first strike label. For these two coins as pictured I prefer the plain blue label. If I we’re to buy one it wouldn’t matter to me what label it was, it’s about the coin to me in this case.
That’s just me
Martin
I prefer the look of the blue label. Not a fan of special labels. That said, I would actually prefer whichever I could get for the lowest acquisition cost.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
From which shipping center did your box originate? Memphis or Texas?
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
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Both were the same price.
He has sold 101 Flag labels and 1 Blue Label.
OK so my subs shipped late due to cc issues, which also apparently caused the orders to no longer show under my account. I got shipping notifications by text (no emails), for 2 orders a couple days ago. One was 1.9 lbs and the other 4 lbs so that was concerning... One from Texas and one from Louisville Kentucky. I hadn't heard anyone here reporting shipping from KY so that was confusing.
Turns out they are the subscription orders after all, after calling the mint since I had no other way to verify anything as the lookup option by number and email failed and they weren't showing on my account page. Additionally one of the links came through as usps even tho it's a ups number.
Box of chocolates!
https://www.the4thcoin.com
https://www.ebay.com/str/thefourthcoin
Current sales pages stocklevels for the 2023 Morgan and Peace dollars.
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Weird accounting.
For the proofs, it appears that they are listing day of release holdbacks and subscriptions combined into what is available to be sold on August 9. That leaves 20,050 that are not currently available as stocklevel. This may be the number procured by the ABPP (which is half the 40,000 that the ABPP technically cap out at).
For the RP set, it seems to be the other way around. Sales page stocklevel 57,834. Maybe ABPP + day of release holdbacks? (DoR holdbacks and ABPP maximum allotment figures to be about 50,000)
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Subscriptions.
.
.
Subscriptions continue to be taken up for the 2024 Morgan and Peace uncs. Unsure of planned 2024 mintage, or HHL for the uncs in 2024. If the mint reduces HHL from 25, then many more subscriptions will become available, and the same effect would also be seen should the mint raise the mintage on the 2024 uncs.
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The 2023 RP set is essentially fully subscribed. I doubt that there will be large numbers of subscriptions coming available, given the low HHL, and the lower mintage of this product (versus, say, the Morgan and Peace uncs). Maybe a few here and there over the next 4 months.
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On July 4, the mint made a large number of subscriptions (> 20K) available for both of the proofs. This was likely due to mint housekeeping, and not large reductions of subscriptions by individuals. Since then, there has been a steady daily reduction of available subscriptions. At the rate of additional subscriptions after July 4, the Morgan proof will likely fully subscribe prior to August 9, while the Peace proof will likely not fully subscribe. (for reference, neither the Morgan unc or the Peace unc were fully subscribed immediately prior to day of release).
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- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
So when do the 200 "special" COAs for the Morgans become known?
Because you just know they're also out there!
Memphis.
Thank you. I wonder if these "Congratulations, X of 200" cards were only shipped out of Memphis.
My 1x Morgan was shipped from Texas. My 4x Peace was shipped from Memphis.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
I signed up very early once the subscription was offered and 3 were the maximum. I missed out on the 2021 D because I didn’t checkout fast enough. I put those in my box and went to order the others. By the time I went to checkout they were out of my box and it said unavailable. So that being said, I truly like the subscription. I don’t really like the idea that they made the maximum 25. I’m guessing they just don’t want to take a chance of them sitting there stagnant for awhile as people will decide not buy them like the 2021 silver Liberty. I think they like quick sellouts. Just my opinion.
Anyone hear anything about peace dollars with signing certs? Maybe 🤔
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
No, only 199 others will get a card!
BST references available on request
It is most likely that all Peace were shipped from Memphis and all Morgan’s from Texas. That leaves the question of where are orders that include both coins are shipped from
It's Possible...she's signed other items. Of course, it would have been nice to have known beforehand and if they advertised it...thus hyping it up even more.
Do you have any of those Congratulations sets still unopened??? Maybe you have a gem awaiting!
(although, I think the signing below was just a unique signing opportunity at a show, after the fact...just trying to drive sales).
E-Bay ---> 2023 W PROOF SILVER AMERICAN EAGLE $1 CONGRATULATIONS SET, SIGNED Ventris Gibson
BST references available on request
Many of these coins will be delivered tomorrow . It will be interesting how many certificates are reported and if there are any in the Morgans.
some day it will be sold. Which do you think will bring a better premium?
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
I believe they may ship separately. Well, at least with subscriptions at least they did so if any orders on day off had both I'd assume the same.
Either way my peace will be here tomorrow and I'll report if there are any such cards.
https://www.the4thcoin.com
https://www.ebay.com/str/thefourthcoin
I’m guessing the flag label.
There seems to be a market for the first strike and that’s ok I’m just not a believer of the first strike label. For obvious reasons.
Martin
Oh my. I do have a congratulations set from this year. I’ll dig it out and look. Thanks 🙏
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Magic Mike says only 40% of their Peace coins graded MS70
I missed the beginning part about the Morgans
Nope. Got a really beautiful coin but no signature except for the printed one. Thanks
Ofcourse they’re still available so that’s where the signed ones are 😂
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
Yikes...
https://www.the4thcoin.com
https://www.ebay.com/str/thefourthcoin
It looks like Only a few thousand left because the total mintage says 40,000
The Morgans graded better. Sold all the Morgans and only 77 Peace left
Time to buy a peace dollar in 70?
While their still $140 ish.
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I prefer the plain blue. It is a cleaner more classic look that I think serves these coins better.
Here's my 2021Peace $1 TrueView image for your viewing pleasure.
Ain't she purdy. ❤️
MS70FS
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/44186608
HSN selling 2023 Morgans or Peace NGC MS 70 with FUN Release label for $299.00 each
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Both available
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Morgan went fast. Peace dollar available
2 minutes peace dollars unavailable.
Faster and faster every day. Don’t know if anyone could have gotten the Morgan’s. There was enough time for the peace dollar if you were waiting for it. Thanks 🙏
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶