03/08/21 04/19/21 N/A See Details 27 Value Modern (1972- 2017)
After 11 days in assembly, QA1 today
QA 2 today - was 3 business days in QA1
Rare Sunday poppage - sadly another disappointing one. Most are about about a grade below what I had expected, or they wouldn't have been sent in, even at the old prices.... and all of the Fleer Basketball were straight from packs.
TOTAL ITEMS
27
DATE RECEIVED
4/19/2021
DATE SHIPPED
N/A
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 59870988 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 261 Rickey Henderson Card
2 1 59870989 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 540 Mike Schmidt Card
3 1 59870990 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 347 Harold Baines Card
4 1 59870991 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 110 Carl Yastrzemski Card
5 1 59870992 NEAR MINT 7 1981 Topps 302 Dodgers Future Star Perconte/Scioscia/Valenzuela Card
6 1 59870993 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate Card
7 1 59870994 MINT 9 1981 Topps 515 Robin Yount Card
8 1 59870995 NEAR MINT 7 1980 Topps 482 Rickey Henderson Card
9 1 59870996 NEAR MINT 7 1980 Topps 482 Rickey Henderson Card
10 1 59870997 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1980 Topps 482 Rickey Henderson Card
11 1 59870998 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1980 Topps 210 Steve Carlton Card
12 1 59870999 NEAR MINT 7 1980 Topps 580 Nolan Ryan Card
13 1 59871000 MINT 9 1988 Topps Tiffany 361 Greg Maddux Card
14 1 59871001 MINT 9 1988 Topps Tiffany 300 Don Mattingly Card
15 1 59871002 GEM MINT 10 1988 Topps Tiffany 60 Rickey Henderson Card
16 1 59871003 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Star Wars 118 R2-D2 and C-3PO Card
17 1 59871004 GEM MINT 10 1980 Star Wars Empire Strikes Back 131 Checklist: 1-66 Card
18 1 59871005 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Fleer Sticker 3 Michael Jordan Card
19 1 59871006 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer Sticker 5 Magic Johnson Card
20 1 59871007 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Fleer Sticker 5 Magic Johnson Card
21 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1989 Fleer Sticker 5 Magic Johnson Card
22 1 59871009 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Fleer Sticker 10 Larry Bird Card
23 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1989 Fleer Sticker 10 Larry Bird Card
24 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1989 Fleer Sticker 8 Dale Ellis Card
25 1 59871012 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 77 Magic Johnson Card
26 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1989 Fleer 8 Larry Bird Card
27 1 59871014 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 8 Larry Bird Card
Not good and I've followed your subbing for years. You know high grade cards and this must hurt.
@Mickey71 said:
........I've followed your subbing for years. You know high grade cards..........
If PSA says that after years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years of consistently submitting high grade cards that Mike suddenly doesn't know how to pre-grade anymore, then Mike doesn't know how to pre-grade anymore and that's that.
Haha - thanks for the votes of confidence! As i keep getting older, and keep needing new glasses, I can see that it might be me - but the straight-out-of-the-pack Fleer cards were all well centered - no way they are 7's and 8's, let alone too small. Ah well - I don't have high hopes for my remaining subs as a result of the last couple of beat downs (and the big difference in grades with SGC on that Clemente a couple of months ago). But it's something to do. For what it's worth, the Jordan stickers from the same box break got 9's last month....
Ouch Mike. I'm noticing similar results. I think we may be seeing the days of 10s in pre-90s stuff dwindling significantly. It seems as though they are grading the vintage with the same modern standards. It's apples and oranges.
I agree 100% on the pre-90s stuff. I'm getting a bunch sent back that are miscut that are straight out of the pack. I'm also hardly seeing anything pre-80 come back better than an 8 that are also right out of the box.
It's going to have an effect all the way down the line on the pricing too. If it's impossible to get 10s in those years (and almost impossible for 9s) then things are about to get very expensive at those grades. I think an 8 is about the best you can hope for these days on most submittals from those years with a very rare one going higher.
It's had a lingering affect on me, and I just don't have the zest or excitement that I had. It might be time for a hiatus.
Successful coin BST transactions with Gerard and segoja.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
I agree 100% on the pre-90s stuff. I'm getting a bunch sent back that are miscut that are straight out of the pack. I'm also hardly seeing anything pre-80 come back better than an 8 that are also right out of the box.
It's going to have an effect all the way down the line on the pricing too. If it's impossible to get 10s in those years (and almost impossible for 9s) then things are about to get very expensive at those grades. I think an 8 is about the best you can hope for these days on most submittals from those years with a very rare one going higher.
It's had a lingering affect on me, and I just don't have the zest or excitement that I had. It might be time for a hiatus.
I'm quickly coming to the same boat. Their grading on the vintage stuff is pushing me away from even attempting that anymore, and to just focus on buying what's already graded. What's the point in sending in cards from pre-90s that are graded like a 2022 Heritage?
PSA spent a year trying to convince me they don't want my business by shutting down and now they're doubling down with this grading.
I agree 100% on the pre-90s stuff. I'm getting a bunch sent back that are miscut that are straight out of the pack. I'm also hardly seeing anything pre-80 come back better than an 8 that are also right out of the box.
It's going to have an effect all the way down the line on the pricing too. If it's impossible to get 10s in those years (and almost impossible for 9s) then things are about to get very expensive at those grades. I think an 8 is about the best you can hope for these days on most submittals from those years with a very rare one going higher.
It's had a lingering affect on me, and I just don't have the zest or excitement that I had. It might be time for a hiatus.
I'm quickly coming to the same boat. Their grading on the vintage stuff is pushing me away from even attempting that anymore, and to just focus on buying what's already graded. What's the point in sending in cards from pre-90s that are graded like a 2022 Heritage?
PSA has always (or close enough to always) done that. A 6 doesn't mean "this card is pretty good for its age". Have you taken a look at Chris's ( @jordangretzkyfan ) thread on pulling 10s straight from the pack of '80s unopened? I trust it will reset your expectations.
Understand that I'm not suggesting that they haven't tightened their standards on that material; I have no way of knowing, but I'm saying that darned few of those cards ever came out of the pack Gem Mint in the first place.
I agree 100% on the pre-90s stuff. I'm getting a bunch sent back that are miscut that are straight out of the pack. I'm also hardly seeing anything pre-80 come back better than an 8 that are also right out of the box.
It's going to have an effect all the way down the line on the pricing too. If it's impossible to get 10s in those years (and almost impossible for 9s) then things are about to get very expensive at those grades. I think an 8 is about the best you can hope for these days on most submittals from those years with a very rare one going higher.
It's had a lingering affect on me, and I just don't have the zest or excitement that I had. It might be time for a hiatus.
I'm quickly coming to the same boat. Their grading on the vintage stuff is pushing me away from even attempting that anymore, and to just focus on buying what's already graded. What's the point in sending in cards from pre-90s that are graded like a 2022 Heritage?
PSA has always (or close enough to always) done that. A 6 doesn't mean "this card is pretty good for its age". Have you taken a look at Chris's ( @jordangretzkyfan ) thread on pulling 10s straight from the pack of '80s unopened? I trust it will reset your expectations.
Understand that I'm not suggesting that they haven't tightened their standards on that material; I have no way of knowing, but I'm saying that darned few of those cards ever came out of the pack Gem Mint in the first place.
I agree with the cards are not graded as "pretty good for the age". Personally what I think has happened is that the graded scale was created and based on cards produced pre-2000. With the influx of technology and printing techniques, new cards are mostly only at the top. There is no difference. But since they are primarily grading these new cards, the whole scale that was based on what they were grading when it was created has been shifted lower.
Read the standards and look at the cards coming back and many cards do not fit into the published standards, they are being held to a higher standard due to graders seeing 99% cards produced in the last few years.
I don't think anybody kids themselves that all 80's or older cards pulled from packs are 10's. But I would guess that the consensus here would be that grading consistency across the PSA Brand has varied with time. Things have tightened up before, over the years. I think many of us are not happy that our cards sat around for a year plus, and during that year things changed again.
If everybody needs to lower their thoughts a full grade on vintage, however, and grading prices stay stratospheric, the days of anybody grading commons or semi-stars, or base cards of non megastars, will be over soon (if not already). That's too bad - particularly for set collectors, registry folks, and people who just like the nuances of the "toughies" from each year.
And while tougher standards are fine, in and of themselves, when PSA gives me a 3 on a nice 1973 Clemente, and I crack it out and send it to SGC and get a 7.5, and I had pre-graded it as an 8 in my head, something is actually off (at PSA). I might grumble a little, but once things are two or more grades off, something seems actually wrong. Just my .02.
@Bosox1976 said:
I don't think anybody kids themselves that all 80's or older cards pulled from packs are 10's. But I would guess that the consensus here would be that grading consistency across the PSA Brand has varied with time. Things have tightened up before, over the years. I think many of us are not happy that our cards sat around for a year plus, and during that year things changed again.
If everybody needs to lower their thoughts a full grade on vintage, however, and grading prices stay stratospheric, the days of anybody grading commons or semi-stars, or base cards of non megastars, will be over soon (if not already). That's too bad - particularly for set collectors, registry folks, and people who just like the nuances of the "toughies" from each year.
And while tougher standards are fine, in and of themselves, when PSA gives me a 3 on a nice 1973 Clemente, and I crack it out and send it to SGC and get a 7.5, and I had pre-graded it as an 8 in my head, something is actually off (at PSA). I might grumble a little, but once things are two or more grades off, something seems actually wrong. Just my .02.
Said perfectly Mike. I'll add an example on my end on how grading has gotten ridiculous on vintage....I once was collecting a graded 1971 Topps Baseball set. I was always buying these cards over the years raw. I would find really sharp ones and submit them starting about 15 years ago. I was getting 8's and the occasional 9. One time I sent in 38 and got 36 of the 38 at 8 or higher. These were cherry picked from 1 dealer and they were beautiful. Then about 7 years ago I started to not hardly get any 8's on subs from 1971 and forget about a 9. I notice most people can not grade 71s anymore. Did we all lose our eyes or did standards change? I know the answer.
I agree 100% on the pre-90s stuff. I'm getting a bunch sent back that are miscut that are straight out of the pack. I'm also hardly seeing anything pre-80 come back better than an 8 that are also right out of the box.
It's going to have an effect all the way down the line on the pricing too. If it's impossible to get 10s in those years (and almost impossible for 9s) then things are about to get very expensive at those grades. I think an 8 is about the best you can hope for these days on most submittals from those years with a very rare one going higher.
It's had a lingering affect on me, and I just don't have the zest or excitement that I had. It might be time for a hiatus.
I'm quickly coming to the same boat. Their grading on the vintage stuff is pushing me away from even attempting that anymore, and to just focus on buying what's already graded. What's the point in sending in cards from pre-90s that are graded like a 2022 Heritage?
PSA has always (or close enough to always) done that. A 6 doesn't mean "this card is pretty good for its age". Have you taken a look at Chris's ( @jordangretzkyfan ) thread on pulling 10s straight from the pack of '80s unopened? I trust it will reset your expectations.
Understand that I'm not suggesting that they haven't tightened their standards on that material; I have no way of knowing, but I'm saying that darned few of those cards ever came out of the pack Gem Mint in the first place.
Yeah, I get that, and I NEVER expect a 10 in any vintage I send. At this point I don't even expect a 9. If I get an 8 then it feels like a victory.
My point is that there have been more even grades in the past on vintage, because 9s and 10s are out there. Now that it SEEMS to be tightening on those the 7s and 8s will be more available and the 9s and 10s are going to be VERY expensive.
I also won't be sending any commons in for grading anymore. At least until enough time passes to see if there will still be interest in those at lower grades.
I have 2 in economy that are approaching 2 full months. 1 in assembly and 1 in Research and ID (this one is PSA/DNA). I was really hoping to have those back in hand before Vacation and they are in the USPS hands longer than they need to be
Looking for a Glen Rice Inkredible and Alex Rodriguez cards
I have seen a lot of comments that talk about a change in grading standards and there is a disappointment but maybe an acceptance. But I feel that it cant be accepted. It is absolutely necessary that grading standards are consistent from day 1 to now to 20 years from now. If not, what is anybody paying for? When you pay an amount to have your card graded? When you pay for a card that is in a grading company's holder? Mint means Mint. Always. Gem Mint means Gem Mint. Always. NM-MT means NM-MT. Always. And so on. There is no reinterpretation. There is no stricter periods of time. It is defined and laid out what the grade means to the company. If Mint is one thing in 2004 and another thing in 2022, there is no Mint. It means nothing. So I just hope there is not a tolerance for this idea that grading can become tougher. Grades for the same card would get worse over time. They cant. They have to stay the same. Exactly the same. That is the whole point of doing this. The cards have to be graded by the same standards always. Or they become worthless in the holders. Or just the same as they would be raw. If grading becomes stricter, there needs to be a page that defines the new stricter standards. Cards need to be identifiable as being graded under the new stricter standards. So yo
Over a decade on these boards and I cannot recall at any time that there was not a discussion on these boards about how grading was now getting stricter. There have always been discussions like this, and as long as professional grading exists there will always be discussions like this.
@Bosox1976 said:
I don't think anybody kids themselves that all 80's or older cards pulled from packs are 10's. But I would guess that the consensus here would be that grading consistency across the PSA Brand has varied with time. Things have tightened up before, over the years. I think many of us are not happy that our cards sat around for a year plus, and during that year things changed again.
If everybody needs to lower their thoughts a full grade on vintage, however, and grading prices stay stratospheric, the days of anybody grading commons or semi-stars, or base cards of non megastars, will be over soon (if not already). That's too bad - particularly for set collectors, registry folks, and people who just like the nuances of the "toughies" from each year.
And while tougher standards are fine, in and of themselves, when PSA gives me a 3 on a nice 1973 Clemente, and I crack it out and send it to SGC and get a 7.5, and I had pre-graded it as an 8 in my head, something is actually off (at PSA). I might grumble a little, but once things are two or more grades off, something seems actually wrong. Just my .02.
Seeing firsthand how 2000 and up cards are being treated the exact same but vintage is now impossible to guess what grades will be assigned > @mrburns443 said:
Anyone have any bulk modern orders entered last April showing movement. My bulk modern from 4/15/21 has been stuck in assembly for over 5 weeks.
Same here, Apr 22 Value Modern been in assembly for about the same time as yours
@athleticsfan said:
Over a decade on these boards and I cannot recall at any time that there was not a discussion on these boards about how grading was now getting stricter. There have always been discussions like this, and as long as professional grading exists there will always be discussions like this.
Good point but did it ever corelate with PSA having to hire thousands of news graders?
Successful coin BST transactions with Gerard and segoja.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
I'll add my two cents on the grading standards. I agree with much of what has been said above. To use a Mike Tomlin-ism (Steelers head coach), the standard is the standard. It should not change over time. Aside from some allowance for 1st generation holders where PSA was still evolving the grading industry in its infancy, a NM-MT card graded 20 years ago should be a NM-MT card today. Professional grading was invented to bring consistency to the industry in terms of both authenticity and condition. Of course there will be variations in how a given card is graded due to the subjective nature of grading (e.g., eye appeal). However, wholesale shifts in grading standards should not occur. We've talked about the grader of death over the years and periods of where grading seemed to tighten up a bit. However, it now seems vintage cards have been more harshly graded for a period of more than a year now. Getting an 8 on a card you thought should get a 9 isn't reason to protest. However, when you submit 500 cards that you used to always get 60% 8's and 15% 9's pretty consistently but now are getting 60% 7's and 15% 8's, that's when the system falls apart.
I have a few thousand cards that have been sitting at PSA for over a year. The only submission I've received back since the shutdown has been a 5 card regular submission. The results for that order was pretty much in line with my expectations. I think one 7 could have been an 8 but see my comment above about variability in grades for an individual card. I have a pretty consistent track record for grade distribution for 500 card blocks I submit. It will be interesting to compare these pending orders with past results. My thinking is if you get a veteran grader who's handled a lot of vintage over the years, your results will probably be typical of what we expect. We've seen occasional posts where results are as expected. I think the real problem comes when you get a newer grader who has mostly been grading ultra modern. If they get your vintage submission, the results are likely to be brutal. Hopefully PSA will carve out a niche of graders that focus solely on vintage and not mix and match submissions across the entire grading room. They have enough graders to do this now. A grader staring at refractors all day and then getting a submission of 1933 Goudey's would be nuts. The contrast in attributes is a bridge to far.
Grading has always been subjective, but for vintage, PSA grading standards have become ridiculous. Case in point:
Here's my first Rocket rookie, a PSA 7 that I loved owning, up against my recently graded PSA 4. The 4 has no creases or wrinkles, and I've been over it with a 20x loupe many times. The saddest part is, even though it checks every box for being an unaltered example, half the time this type of card would probably come back altered or minsizereq these days.
@Frozencaribou said:
Grading has always been subjective, but for vintage, PSA grading standards have become ridiculous. Case in point:
Here's my first Rocket rookie, a PSA 7 that I loved owning, up against my recently graded PSA 4. The 4 has no creases or wrinkles, and I've been over it with a 20x loupe many times. The saddest part is, even though it checks every box for being an unaltered example, half the time this type of card would probably come back altered or minsizereq these days.
I would like to see PSA just once tell us why a certain grade was given, the only thing I ever hear is that they stand behind the grader's assessment. After spending tens of thousands of $$$ in grading fees over the years I have literally requested explanations on a grade one time, but still got a cookie cutter response back from CS. I understand they are busy but I'm not talking about a 2019 Prizm that got a 9, but rather a potential $15K vintage card that looked like a 7 but got a 4.
We can only hope that they make it right and allow free reviews on cases like this, but that is beyond doubtful...
@Frozencaribou said:
Grading has always been subjective, but for vintage, PSA grading standards have become ridiculous. Case in point:
Here's my first Rocket rookie, a PSA 7 that I loved owning, up against my recently graded PSA 4. The 4 has no creases or wrinkles, and I've been over it with a 20x loupe many times. The saddest part is, even though it checks every box for being an unaltered example, half the time this type of card would probably come back altered or minsizereq these days.
I would like to see PSA just once tell us why a certain grade was given, the only thing I ever hear is that they stand behind the grader's assessment. After spending tens of thousands of $$$ in grading fees over the years I have literally requested explanations on a grade one time, but still got a cookie cutter response back from CS. I understand they are busy but I'm not talking about a 2019 Prizm that got a 9, but rather a potential $15K vintage card that looked like a 7 but got a 4.
We can only hope that they make it right and allow free reviews on cases like this, but that is beyond doubtful...
Wow. Did you pay to have the grade reviewed? I don't know how it actually works because I've never tried sending in a graded card to have the grade reviewed. I think if a customer does that, they should at least provide a detailed explanation why a card was graded the way it was if they are standing by the original grade. It only seems fair.
@Frozencaribou said:
Grading has always been subjective, but for vintage, PSA grading standards have become ridiculous. Case in point:
Here's my first Rocket rookie, a PSA 7 that I loved owning, up against my recently graded PSA 4. The 4 has no creases or wrinkles, and I've been over it with a 20x loupe many times. The saddest part is, even though it checks every box for being an unaltered example, half the time this type of card would probably come back altered or minsizereq these days.
I would like to see PSA just once tell us why a certain grade was given, the only thing I ever hear is that they stand behind the grader's assessment. After spending tens of thousands of $$$ in grading fees over the years I have literally requested explanations on a grade one time, but still got a cookie cutter response back from CS. I understand they are busy but I'm not talking about a 2019 Prizm that got a 9, but rather a potential $15K vintage card that looked like a 7 but got a 4.
We can only hope that they make it right and allow free reviews on cases like this, but that is beyond doubtful...
Wow. Did you pay to have the grade reviewed? I don't know how it actually works because I've never tried sending in a graded card to have the grade reviewed. I think if a customer does that, they should at least provide a detailed explanation why a card was graded the way it was if they are standing by the original grade. It only seems fair.
No, it was a direct request to QA asking whether or not it was a mechanical error as to why it received said grade. I was fishing for a reason as to why it was given such a poor grade given that there were no signs of any kind that would warrant a 4. They weren't forthcoming with any information, saying the grader stood behind their decision, and if I wanted to I could send it in for review, at $350...
With CGC comic grading you get graders notes outlining reasons for their decision, at the $350 level we should expect/demand the same transparency from PSA, it JUST, MAKES, SENSE...
No, it was a direct request to QA asking whether or not it was a mechanical error as to why it received said grade. I was fishing for a reason as to why it was given such a poor grade given that there were no signs of any kind that would warrant a 4. They weren't forthcoming with any information, saying the grader stood behind their decision, and if I wanted to I could send it in for review, at $350...
With CGC comic grading you get graders notes outlining reasons for their decision, at the $350 level we should expect/demand the same transparency from PSA, it JUST, MAKES, SENSE...
$350 for review?!
They certainly owe some transparency for that. Quite frankly, if they got the grade wrong in the first place, I don't believe the customer should have to pay for them to fix their mistake.
To be fair to PSA. I can personally see why they gave the card a 4. Yes the centering is " good," but look at the corner bottom right. It's rounded off from the corner. That can drop a gem mint 10 to a 6 in a flash. Another thing.... The edges are okay for the year but not mint. The discoloration is a problem.surface is actually the second big problem besides the rounded corner. I'm not trying to hurt you at all.... I'm just calling it like I see it. If nobody from PSA wants to give you a reason..... I WILL because I Care about you!!! I know that feeling from years ago. I sincerely hope this helps you buddy!!! But I understand your frustrations! The surface is a big factor. Stained. Now be aware also.... " I did sleep in a holiday express Last night!"
If you sent in both cards at the same time, the 4 would be graded higher. I think the 7 grader new the card , year and difficulty of obtaining the card in that condition. The 4 , I think the grader was looking for any negitive possible to mark the card down. (Possibly to knock the value down). What gets me is someone is supposed to re-check the card and grade.I the the 7 could have been a 6 , and the 4 , a 7. But I have bad eye-site.
@Historicalwood71 said:
To be fair to PSA. I can personally see why they gave the card a 4. Yes the centering is " good," but look at the corner bottom right. It's rounded off from the corner. That can drop a gem mint 10 to a 6 in a flash. Another thing.... The edges are okay for the year but not mint. The discoloration is a problem.surface is actually the second big problem besides the rounded corner. I'm not trying to hurt you at all.... I'm just calling it like I see it. If nobody from PSA wants to give you a reason..... I WILL because I Care about you!!! I know that feeling from years ago. I sincerely hope this helps you buddy!!! But I understand your frustrations! The surface is a big factor. Stained. Now be aware also.... " I did sleep in a holiday express Last night!"
@Historicalwood71 said:
To be fair to PSA. I can personally see why they gave the card a 4. Yes the centering is " good," but look at the corner bottom right. It's rounded off from the corner. That can drop a gem mint 10 to a 6 in a flash. Another thing.... The edges are okay for the year but not mint. The discoloration is a problem.surface is actually the second big problem besides the rounded corner. I'm not trying to hurt you at all.... I'm just calling it like I see it. If nobody from PSA wants to give you a reason..... I WILL because I Care about you!!! I know that feeling from years ago. I sincerely hope this helps you buddy!!! But I understand your frustrations! The surface is a big factor. Stained. Now be aware also.... " I did sleep in a holiday express Last night!"
This some kind of joke?
No. If I was joking..... I'd be a grader for Beckett
@Frozencaribou said:
The 4 has no creases or wrinkles, and I've been over it with a 20x loupe many times. The saddest part is, even though it checks every box for being an unaltered example, half the time this type of card would probably come back altered or minsizereq these days.
Do you have any reason to believe this last sentence, or are you just frustrated with the grade? That is, have you heard of anyone who recently sent in a stack of unaltered key rookies before, say, 1980, all sports, and gotten grades for only half of them?
After all the outrage from PWCC allegedly submitting altered cards, having them get straight grades, and then selling them on eBay, it is totally understandable to me that PSA would err on the side of caution when it comes to cards they aren't 100% sure are unaltered. Like maybe they would grade them if they were 70% sure they were unaltered before but would need to be 95% sure now. As I say, I don't blame them.
@Historicalwood71 said:
To be fair to PSA. I can personally see why they gave the card a 4. Yes the centering is " good," but look at the corner bottom right. It's rounded off from the corner. That can drop a gem mint 10 to a 6 in a flash. Another thing.... The edges are okay for the year but not mint. The discoloration is a problem.surface is actually the second big problem besides the rounded corner. I'm not trying to hurt you at all.... I'm just calling it like I see it. If nobody from PSA wants to give you a reason..... I WILL because I Care about you!!! I know that feeling from years ago. I sincerely hope this helps you buddy!!! But I understand your frustrations! The surface is a big factor. Stained. Now be aware also.... " I did sleep in a holiday express Last night!"
@beachbumcollecting said:
is there any place to see the monthly completion percentages or is that a thing of the past? I find the CTD not helpful but the percentages were a good gauge where things really are
@beachbumcollecting I also noticed the change in the CTD percentage chart. I am guessing that as PSA closes in on the remainder of the backlog (for the received dates of April and May 2021 before the shut down) there is less of a need to project it. I have just seen 2 of my April orders move to Assembly this week. My guess is that anyone in the remaining backlog will see similar movement soon. In any case…yay for the movement!!!
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one. Live long, and prosper.
Daltex- I take that from my own experience with hockey cards and also others I know well. At least for vintage hockey, its been that way for the last couple of years. Perhaps its the new technology they are using at PSA, but whatever the reason it ends up rejecting a lot of cards as N6 or altered. Here's a recent order...
Historicalwood71- Appreciate the perspective. I shared those cards as a comparison point for grading standards. They have changed a lot.
I've also gotten some 77s sent back recently as altered. I know they weren't because I saw them pulled directly from packs. All the same N6: Min Size problem. I'm going to keep sending them though.
I had a recent allocation that was entered 4/21/22 move to assembly yesterday after maybe 15-20 days in grading. Hope it moves quick through those last stages but more importantly I hope the grades are good. I just wish I could know the grades with the asterisk that they might change in QA.
@Historicalwood71 said:
To be fair to PSA. I can personally see why they gave the card a 4. Yes the centering is " good," but look at the corner bottom right. It's rounded off from the corner. That can drop a gem mint 10 to a 6 in a flash. Another thing.... The edges are okay for the year but not mint. The discoloration is a problem.surface is actually the second big problem besides the rounded corner. I'm not trying to hurt you at all.... I'm just calling it like I see it. If nobody from PSA wants to give you a reason..... I WILL because I Care about you!!! I know that feeling from years ago. I sincerely hope this helps you buddy!!! But I understand your frustrations! The surface is a big factor. Stained. Now be aware also.... " I did sleep in a holiday express Last night!"
@Frozencaribou said:
Daltex- I take that from my own experience with hockey cards and also others I know well. At least for vintage hockey, its been that way for the last couple of years. Perhaps its the new technology they are using at PSA, but whatever the reason it ends up rejecting a lot of cards as N6 or altered. Here's a recent order...
Historicalwood71- Appreciate the perspective. I shared those cards as a comparison point for grading standards. They have changed a lot.
No problem 👍 I try to help people with questions. I know that feeling.
@UlyssesExtravaganza said:
I had a recent allocation that was entered 4/21/22 move to assembly yesterday after maybe 15-20 days in grading. Hope it moves quick through those last stages but more importantly I hope the grades are good. I just wish I could know the grades with the asterisk that they might change in QA.
Don't want to ruin your holiday, but mine Submission from March, 2021, has been in Assembly since May 4th...
My recent Economy Submissions were usually back to my house within 30-35 days
107 card bulk modern just moved to QA 1 after about 5 and a half weeks in assembly. Hopefully not too much longer.
Arrived 2/24/21
Entered 4/15/21
Assembly 4/18/22
QA 1 5/26/22
291 Card Value-Modern physically arrived 2/21/21, entered 4/19/21, Assembly 5/5/22 and popped 5/25/22. I thought it went similar to my past subs: Some heartbreaks, some as expected, but a few really nice upside surprises too. Overall, can't complain as I think I had maybe $750 total out of pocket before grading fees in all these cards. First time sending in lots of junk wax era as just wanted to get them in at the $12 price knowing many will be worth next to nothing if not a 10 but ended up being my largest sub ever. Of the junk era grades it just appears that anything with Griffey on it gets slammed. But I previously encountered that when sending in his minor league issues. I also felt that for 1990 & 1991 UD & Parkhurst hockey, they grade the French versions more harsh. 1990 OPC Premier was as expected. The only 2 true heartbreaks in my mind were the 1982 McDonalds Gretzky stickers #20 & #22. I truly thought they were mint with a shot at 10 based on centering & corners. Stickers are always tough. Yet on the upside surprises, I thought the 1989 Swedish Semic Hasek was going to get a 4, so was thrilled for the 6. The 1986 Procards Visquel PSA 10 was a pleasant surprise, I got a lot of love on all the 1991 Skybox Jordan 10s, but the ones that made my jaw drop were the 2 1980 TCMA Wichita Aeros Lee Smith at 10 & 9. I bought I believe 5 sets for like $75 total maybe 7 years ago and sent in 2 previously I thought were best and got a pair of 8's. I thought these would get the same 8's too so I was blown away by the 9 & 10 as 1980 TCMA with the red borders is so tough. And the best surprise? No upcharges even though there should have been a few especially for sneaking in the old Maradonas! Thanks PSA!
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 59648658 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1980 Topps 160 Walter Payton All-Pro Card
2 1 59648659 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1984 Topps 358 Joe Montana Card
3 1 59648660 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Fleer 8 Larry Bird Card
4 1 59648661 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Fleer 8 Larry Bird Card
5 1 59648662 MINT 9 1989 Converse Larry Bird Card
6 1 59648663 GEM MINT 10 1989 Converse Karl Malone Card
7 1 59648664 GEM MINT 10 1989 Converse Magic Johnson Card
8 1 59648665 MINT 9 1989 Hoops 310 David Robinson Card
9 1 59648666 MINT 9 1989 Hoops 210 James Worthy Card
10 1 59648667 MINT 9 1989 Hoops 351 Steve Kerr Card
11 1 59648668 MINT 9 1989 Hoops 178 Akeem Olajuwon All-Star Card
12 1 59648669 MINT 9 1989 Hoops 96 Charles Barkley All-Star Card
13 1 59648670 GEM MINT 10 1989 Hoops 96 Charles Barkley All-Star Card
14 1 59648671 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Hoops 113 Tim Hardaway Card
15 1 59648672 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Hoops 113 Tim Hardaway Card
16 1 59648673 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Hoops 270 David Robinson Card
17 1 59648674 MINT 9 1990 Hoops 270 David Robinson Card
18 1 59648675 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Skybox 95 Tim Hardaway Card
19 1 59648676 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Skybox 14 Larry Bird Card
20 1 59648677 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Skybox 41 Michael Jordan Card
21 1 59648678 MINT 9 1990 Skybox 41 Michael Jordan Card
22 1 59648679 GEM MINT 10 1990 Skybox 268 Shawn Kemp Card
23 1 59648680 GEM MINT 10 1990 Skybox 268 Shawn Kemp Card
24 1 59648681 MINT 9 1990 Skybox 260 David Robinson Card
25 1 59648682 GEM MINT 10 1991 Hoops McDonald's 51 Charles Barkley Card
26 1 59648683 MINT 9 1991 Front Row Dikembe Mutombo 3 Dikembe Mutombo Card
27 1 59648684 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck Award Winner Hologram AW4 Michael Jordan Card
28 1 59648685 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck Award Winner Hologram AW4 Michael Jordan Card
29 1 59648686 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 2 Larry Johnson Card
30 1 59648687 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 2 Larry Johnson Card
31 1 59648688 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 3 Dikembe Mutombo Card
32 1 59648689 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 125 Scottie Pippen Card
33 1 59648690 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 125 Scottie Pippen Card
34 1 59648691 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 22 Michael Jordan Card
35 1 59648692 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 22 Michael Jordan Card
36 1 59648693 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 324 David Robinson Card
37 1 59648694 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 44 Michael Jordan Card
38 1 59648695 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 44 Michael Jordan Card
39 1 59648696 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 44 Michael Jordan Card
40 1 59648697 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 48 Michael Jordan All-Star Checklist Card
41 1 59648698 NEAR MINT 7 1991 Upper Deck 48 Michael Jordan All-Star Checklist Card
42 1 59648699 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 69 Michael Jordan Card
43 1 59648700 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 546 Team USA 3 Card
44 1 59648701 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 545 Team USA 2 Card
45 1 59648702 MINT 9 1991 Skybox 544 Team USA 1 Card
46 1 59648703 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 39 Michael Jordan Card
47 1 59648704 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 39 Michael Jordan Card
48 1 59648705 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 39 Michael Jordan Card
49 1 59648706 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 462 Michael Jordan/Scottie Pippen Card
50 1 59648707 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 334 Michael Jordan Card
51 1 59648708 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 408 Michael Jordan Card
52 1 59648709 MINT 9 1991 Skybox 583 Michael Jordan Card
53 1 59648710 MINT 9 1991 Skybox 307 Michael Jordan Card
54 1 59648711 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 572 Michael Jordan Card
55 1 59648712 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 333 Michael vs. Magic Card
56 1 59648713 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 12 Larry Bird Card
57 1 59648714 MINT 9 1992 Front Row Draft Picks Christian Laettner Promo-Both Hands on the Ball Card
58 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card
59 1 59648716 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Drake's 37 Shaquille O'Neal Card
60 1 59648717 MINT 9 1993 Fax Pax World of Sport 8 Shaquille O'Neal Card
61 1 59648718 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Ultra 64 Greg Maddux Card
62 1 59648719 MINT 9 1991 Ultra 340 Edgar Martinez Card
63 1 59648720 MINT 9 1991 Ultra 340 Edgar Martinez Card
64 1 59648721 MINT 9 1991 Ultra 339 Randy Johnson Card
65 1 59648722 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 755 Jeff Bagwell Card
66 1 59648723 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 655 Roger Clemens Card
67 1 59648724 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 246 Frank Thomas Card
68 1 59648725 MINT 9 1991 Studio 128 Nolan Ryan Card
69 1 59648726 MINT 9 1990 Donruss 185 Mark McGwire Card
70 1 59648727 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 182 Kirby Puckett Card
71 1 59648728 MINT 9 1989 Topps 343 Gary Sheffield Card
72 1 59648729 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 647 Randy Johnson Card
73 1 59648730 MINT 9 1989 Topps 530 Nolan Ryan Card
74 1 59648731 MINT 9 1989 Topps 530 Nolan Ryan Card
75 1 59648732 MINT 9 1989 Topps 401 Jose Canseco All-Star Card
76 1 59648733 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Fleer 196 Gary Sheffield Card
77 1 59648734 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 196 Gary Sheffield Card
78 1 59648735 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 202 Barry Bonds Card
79 1 59648736 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 361 Barry Bonds Card
80 1 59648737 MINT 9 1987 Topps 450 Kirby Puckett Card
81 1 59648738 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer Update U-68 Greg Maddux Card
82 1 59648739 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps Traded 11T Barry Bonds Card
83 1 59648740 MINT 9 1986 Fleer Update U-20 Jose Canseco Card
84 1 59648741 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer Update U-76 Kevin Mitchell Card
85 1 59648742 MINT 9 1986 Fleer Update U-14 Barry Bonds Card
86 1 59648743 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer Update U-14 Barry Bonds Card
87 1 59648744 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Topps 536 Kirby Puckett Card
88 1 59648745 NEAR MINT 7 1982 Donruss 216 Rod Carew Card
89 1 59648746 MINT 9 1986 Procards Wasau Timbers Omar Visquel Wausau Timbers Card
90 1 59648747 GEM MINT 10 1986 Procards Wasau Timbers Omar Visquel Wausau Timbers Card
91 1 59648748 GEM MINT 10 1986 Procards Ventura Gulls Dave Wells Ventura Gulls Card
92 1 59648749 MINT 9 1986 Procards Pittsfield Cubs Rafael Palmeiro Card
93 1 59648750 MINT 9 1990 Procards A & AA Minor League Stars 26 Jeff Bagwell Card
94 1 59648751 MINT 9 1990 Star Minor League Baseball Wax 26 Ivan Rodriguez Card
95 1 59648752 MINT 9 1990 Star Minor League Baseball Wax 26 Ivan Rodriguez Card
96 1 59648753 GEM MINT 10 1990 Star Minor League Baseball Wax 26 Ivan Rodriguez Card
97 1 59648754 MINT 9 1990 Star Minor League Baseball Wax 30 Jeff Bagwell Card
98 1 59648755 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 TCMA Pawtucket Red Sox 5 Bob Ojeda Card
99 1 59648756 GEM MINT 10 1980 TCMA Wichita Aeros 12 Lee Smith Card
100 1 59648757 MINT 9 1980 TCMA Wichita Aeros 12 Lee Smith Card
101 1 59648758 MINT 9 1979 TCMA Tidewater Tides 7 Mookie Wilson Tidewater Tides Card
102 1 59648759 MINT 9 1979 TCMA Albuquerque Dukes 16 Pedro Guerrero Card
103 1 59648760 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Front Row Club House 2 Ken Griffey Jr. Drafted-Promo Card
104 1 59648761 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1993 Front Row Gold Collection Ken Griffey Jr. 1 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
105 1 59648762 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1994 Fleer Atlantic 13 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
106 1 59648763 MINT 9 1990 Topps Glossy Rookies 11 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
107 1 59648764 MINT 9 1990 Topps Glossy Rookies 11 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
108 1 59648765 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Glossy Rookies 11 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
109 1 59648766 NEAR MINT 7 1990 Topps Glossy Rookies 11 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
110 1 59648767 MINT 9 1990 Sportflics 64 Randy Johnson Card
111 1 59648768 MINT 9 1990 Sportflics 64 Randy Johnson Card
112 1 59648769 MINT 9 1990 Sportflics 143 Barry Bonds Card
113 1 59648770 MINT 9 1990 Sportflics 143 Barry Bonds Card
114 1 59648771 MINT 9 1989 Sportflics 115 Nolan Ryan Card
115 1 59648772 MINT 9 1989 Sportflics 146 Barry Bonds Card
116 1 59648773 MINT 9 1987 Sportflics 10 Roger Clemens 1986 Copyright Card
117 1 59648774 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Sportflics 190 Bo Jackson 1986 Copyright Card
118 1 59648775 MINT 9 1989 Sportflics 224 Hot Rookie Prospects Milacki/Johnson/Martinez Card
119 1 59648776 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 Sportflics 7 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
120 1 59648777 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Sportflics 7 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
121 1 59648778 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Upper Deck 18 Pedro Martinez Star Rookie Card
122 1 59648779 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Classic Best 355 Pedro Martinez Card
123 1 59648780 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 Classic Best 355 Pedro Martinez Card
124 1 59648781 MINT 9 1991 Classic Best 355 Pedro Martinez Card
125 1 59648782 MINT 9 1995 Best Top 100 80 Vladimir Guerrero Albany Polecats Card
126 1 59648783 GEM MINT 10 1995 Best Top 100 80 Vladimir Guerrero Albany Polecats Card
127 1 59648784 MINT 9 1995 Best Top 100 80 Vladimir Guerrero Albany Polecats Card
128 1 59648785 MINT 9 1992 Classic 4 Sport 231 Derek Jeter Card
129 1 59648786 MINT 9 1992 Classic 4 Sport 231 Derek Jeter Card
130 1 59648787 MINT 9 1990 Fleer 363 Larry Walker Card
131 1 59648788 GEM MINT 10 1990 Fleer 520 Edgar Martinez Card
132 1 59648789 MINT 9 1990 Fleer 638 McGwire\Mattingly Card
133 1 59648790 GEM MINT 10 1990 Fleer 548 Sammy Sosa Card
134 1 59648791 MINT 9 1990 Fleer 548 Sammy Sosa Card
135 1 59648792 GEM MINT 10 1990 Fleer 461 Barry Bonds Card
136 1 59648793 GEM MINT 10 1990 Upper Deck 72 Juan Gonzalez Star Rookie Card
137 1 59648794 MINT 9 1990 Upper Deck 72 Juan Gonzalez Star Rookie Card
138 1 59648795 MINT 9 1990 Upper Deck 466 Larry Walker Card
139 1 59648796 MINT 9 1990 Upper Deck 711 Dave Justice Card
140 1 59648797 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Upper Deck 711 Dave Justice Card
141 1 59648798 FAIR 1.5 1978 Crack Campeonato Mundial 24 Maradona Card
142 1 59648799 GOOD 2 1979 Crack Super Futbol 58 Diego Maradona Card
143 1 59648800 GOOD 2 1979 Crack Super Futbol 1 Diego Maradona Card
144 1 59648801 GOOD 2 1979 Crack Super Futbol 12 Diego Maradona Card
145 1 59648802 GOOD 2 1979 Crack Super Futbol 15 Diego Maradona Card
146 1 59648803 POOR 1 1979 Crack Super Futbol Argentinos Juniors Discs 10 Maradona Card
147 1 59648804 GOOD 2 1979 Crack Super Futbol 21 Diego Maradona Card
148 1 59648805 VERY GOOD 3 1979 Crack Super Futbol 24 Diego Maradona Card
149 1 59648806 GOOD 2 1979 Crack Super Futbol 2 Diego Maradona Card
150 1 59648807 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 7-Eleven Discs Steve Yzerman Card
151 1 59648808 MINT 9 1988 Topps Stickers 8 Wayne Gretzky Card
152 1 59648809 MINT 9 1988 Topps Stickers 8 Wayne Gretzky Card
153 1 59648810 MINT 9 1985 Topps 85 Paul Coffey Card
154 1 59648811 GEM MINT 10 1985 Topps 85 Paul Coffey Card
155 1 59648812 MINT 9 1985 Topps 90 Marcel Dionne Card
156 1 59648813 MINT 9 1985 Topps Stickers 2 Wayne Gretzky Card
157 1 59648814 MINT 9 1985 Topps 29 Steve Yzerman Card
158 1 59648815 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Topps 120 Wayne Gretzky Card
159 1 59648816 MINT 9 1985 Topps 86 Ed Olczyk Card
160 1 59648817 MINT 9 1984 O-Pee-Chee 357 Wayne Gretzky Card
161 1 59648818 MINT 9 1984 O-Pee-Chee 357 Wayne Gretzky Card
162 1 59648819 MINT 9 1984 O-Pee-Chee 357 Wayne Gretzky Card
163 1 59648820 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1984 Topps 51 Wayne Gretzky Card
164 1 59648821 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Topps 1 Ray Bourque Card
165 1 59648822 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Topps 1 Ray Bourque Card
166 1 59648823 MINT 9 1984 Topps 1 Ray Bourque Card
167 1 59648824 MINT 9 1984 Topps 1 Ray Bourque Card
168 1 59648825 NEAR MINT 7 1984 Topps 1 Ray Bourque Card
169 1 59648826 NEAR MINT 7 1988 Esso All-Stars Mario Lemieux Card
170 1 59648827 GEM MINT 10 1988 Esso All-Stars Mario Lemieux Card
171 1 59648828 MINT 9 1988 Esso All-Stars Wayne Gretzky Card
172 1 59648829 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Esso All-Stars Wayne Gretzky Card
173 1 59648830 MINT 9 1986 Kraft Drawings Wendel Clark Card
174 1 59648831 GEM MINT 10 1986 Kraft Drawings Chris Chelios Card
175 1 59648832 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1992 Swedish Semic Elitserien Stickers 319 Daniel Alfredsson Card
176 1 59648833 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Semic World Championship Stickers 178 Dominik Hasek Card
177 1 59648834 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1982 McDonald's Sticker 22 Wayne Gretzky Card
178 1 59648835 NEAR MINT 7 1982 McDonald's Sticker 20 Wayne Gretzky Card
179 1 59648836 MINT 9 1983 O-Pee-Chee 385 Dale Hawerchuk Card
180 1 59648837 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 O-Pee-Chee 29 Wayne Gretzky Card
181 1 59648838 NEAR MINT 7 1983 O-Pee-Chee 216 Wayne Gretzky Assist Leader Card
182 1 59648839 MINT 9 1983 O-Pee-Chee 215 Wayne Gretzky Goal Leaders Card
183 1 59648840 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 O-Pee-Chee 212 Wayne Gretzky Record Breaker Card
184 1 59648841 MINT 9 1983 O-Pee-Chee 203 Wayne Gretzky Hart Trophy Card
185 1 59648842 NEAR MINT 7 1982 O-Pee-Chee 7 Ray Bourque Card
186 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1986 Kamloops Blazers Perforated Mark Recchi Card
187 1 59648844 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Kamloops Blazers Perforated Scott Neidermayer Card
188 1 59648845 MINT 9 1990 Kraft 34 Mike Modano Card
189 1 59648846 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 Kraft 42 Mats Sundin Card
190 1 59648847 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 Panini Stickers 340 Mike Modano Card
191 1 59648848 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Panini Stickers 341 Mark Recchi Card
192 1 59648849 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 O-Pee-Chee 475 Ray Bourque Card
193 1 59648850 GEM MINT 10 1992 Topps 513 Martin Brodeur Card
194 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card
195 1 59648852 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 148 Joe Sakic French Card
196 1 59648853 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 157 Brett Hull French Card
197 1 59648854 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 445 Nicklas Lidstrom French Card
198 1 59648855 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 263 Dominik Hasek French Card
199 1 59648856 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 449 Dominik Hasek French Card
200 1 59648857 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 222 Wayne Gretzky French Card
201 1 59648858 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 222 Wayne Gretzky French Card
202 1 59648859 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 433 Wayne Gretzky French Card
203 1 59648860 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 429 Wayne Gretzky French Card
204 1 59648861 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 207 Wayne Gretzky French Card
205 1 59648862 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 73 Wayne Gretzky French Card
206 1 59648863 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 73 Wayne Gretzky French Card
207 1 59648864 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 73 Wayne Gretzky French Card
208 1 59648865 NEAR MINT 7 1991 Parkhurst 81 Mike Modano French Card
209 1 59648866 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 94 Scott Niedermayer French Card
210 1 59648867 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
211 1 59648868 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
212 1 59648869 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
213 1 59648870 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
214 1 59648871 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
215 1 59648872 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
216 1 59648873 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
217 1 59648874 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
218 1 59648875 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 137 Mario Lemieux French Card
219 1 59648876 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov French Card
220 1 59648877 NEAR MINT 7 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov French Card
221 1 59648878 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov French Card
222 1 59648879 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 219 Brett Hull French Card
223 1 59648880 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 398 Felix Potvin French Card
224 1 59648881 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 404 Pavel Bure French Card
225 1 59648882 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 424 Keith Tkachuk French Card
226 1 59648883 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Blues Kodak 31 Curtis Joseph Card
227 1 59648884 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 Upper Deck Award Winners Holograms AW6 Wayne Gretzky Card
228 1 59648885 NEAR MINT 7 1991 Upper Deck Award Winners Holograms AW6 Wayne Gretzky Card
229 1 59648886 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Upper Deck Award Winners Holograms AW7 Ed Belfour Card
230 1 59648887 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Upper Deck 698 Keith Tkachuk Card
231 1 59648888 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 21 Teemu Selanne Card
232 1 59648889 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 32 Mike Modano Card
233 1 59648890 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 26 Niklas Lidstrom Card
234 1 59648891 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 460 Felix Potvin Card
235 1 59648892 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Upper Deck 144 Sergei Fedorov Card
236 1 59648893 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Upper Deck 144 Sergei Fedorov Card
237 1 59648894 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 54 Pavel Bure Card
238 1 59648895 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 54 Pavel Bure Card
239 1 59648896 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 64 Peter Forsberg Card
240 1 59648897 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 64 Peter Forsberg Card
241 1 59648898 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 64 Peter Forsberg Card
242 1 59648899 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 Upper Deck 335 Dominik Hasek Card
243 1 59648900 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 335 Dominik Hasek Card
244 1 59648901 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 335 Dominik Hasek Card
245 1 59648902 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 20 Jaromir Jagr Card
246 1 59648903 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Upper Deck 20 Jaromir Jagr Card
247 1 59648904 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 424 Keith Tkachuk French Card
248 1 59648905 GEM MINT 10 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 81 Petr Nedved Card
249 1 59648906 GEM MINT 10 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 30 Sergei Fedorov Card
250 1 59648907 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 30 Sergei Fedorov Card
251 1 59648908 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 75 Alexander Mogilny Card
252 1 59648909 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 61 Brian Leetch Card
253 1 59648910 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 51 Curtis Joseph Card
254 1 59648911 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 47 Brett Hull Card
255 1 59648912 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 63 Mario Lemieux Card
256 1 59648913 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 86 Owen Nolan Card
257 1 59648914 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 38 Wayne Gretzky Card
258 1 59648915 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 38 Wayne Gretzky Card
259 1 59648916 GEM MINT 10 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 25 Tie Domi Card
260 1 59648917 GEM MINT 10 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 50 Jaromir Jagr Card
261 1 59648918 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov Card
262 1 59648919 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov Card
263 1 59648920 GEM MINT 10 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov Card
264 1 59648921 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov Card
265 1 59648922 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst Phc PHC5 Sergei Federov Card
266 1 59648923 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 94 Scott Niedermayer Card
267 1 59648924 GEM MINT 10 1991 Parkhurst 94 Scott Niedermayer Card
268 1 59648925 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 94 Scott Niedermayer Card
269 1 59648926 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 37 Nicklas Lidstrom (Niklas) Card
270 1 59648927 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr Card
271 1 59648928 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 73 Wayne Gretzky Card
272 1 59648929 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 67 Pavel Bure Card
273 1 59648930 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 24 Jaromir Jagr Card
274 1 59648931 MINT 9 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 3 Wayne Gretzky Card
275 1 59648932 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 117 Nicklas Lidstrom Card
276 1 59648933 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 117 Nicklas Lidstrom Card
277 1 59648934 MINT 9 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 117 Nicklas Lidstrom Card
278 1 59648935 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 114 Mario Lemieux Card
279 1 59648936 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Score Canadian 179 Jeremy Roenick Card
280 1 59648937 NEAR MINT 7 1990 7th Inning Sketch Lhjmq 222 Martin Brodeur Card
281 1 59648938 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 7th Inning Sketch Hmq 35 Felix Potvin Hmq Card
282 1 59648939 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 7th Inning Sketch Hmq 35 Felix Potvin Hmq Card
283 1 59648940 MINT 9 1989 7th Inning Sketch Ohl 1 Eric Lindros Oshawa Generals Card
284 1 59648941 MINT 9 1989 7th Inning Sketch Ohl 195 Eric Lindros Card
285 1 59648942 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Upper Deck French 352 Owen Nolan Card
286 1 59648943 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 Upper Deck French 55 Ed Belfour Card
287 1 59648944 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Upper Deck French 63 Jeremy Roenick Card
288 1 59648945 NEAR MINT 7 1990 Upper Deck French 526 Pavel Bure Card
289 1 59648946 MINT 9 1990 Upper Deck French 24 Alexander Mogilny Card
290 1 59648947 GEM MINT 10 1990 Upper Deck French 24 Alexander Mogilny Card
291 1 59648948 GEM MINT 10 1990 Upper Deck French 175 Curtis Joseph Card
PSA has had my cards for 16 months now….still in "Grading" (They were actually entered 05.04.2021). PSA is simply overpriced, inconsistent, and way, way SLOW. A terrific combination! No thanks.
There absolutely has to be something wrong when you can get a $50 submission back in 15 to 18 days and other in-hand orders are wallowing for months.... now even years! My puny little 20 card submission was entered 4/14/2021.
Just give me my order back sometime this century so I can close the book on this fiasco!
Steve Saldutti sjjs28@comcast.net Collector of Baseball Hall of Famer's and Stars, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game and 1969 Topps Decals Registered Sets: 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
Got some nice surprise poppage. Was not expecting it so soon. 18 days turnaround on comic books is pretty cool. Think they were charging $24 for 180 days and $15 more for quick turnaround which was supposed to be 39 days. So they blew that out of the water. Dont know much about comics but had these sitting around all this time and I like getting things slabbed so thought I would give it a try. Was not necessarily looking at it as a return on investment thing. Just was interested in getting them slabbed for the PC and knowing soon. Very pleased with the results. I knew the 7.0 was not that great looking but it just was something I always loved so wanted to see it in the case.
Finally getting some cards back from the great backlog. Most of what I sent in was for registry sets I’m working on. Initial impressions is that things are slightly different and the 6s and 7s popped more than I would have liked or have seen in the past. Nothing that was a head scratcher as I can see what kept them from mint just wasn’t sure they warranted the extreme drop.
Lots of AROD
Some various autos (wish this was in a Bears uni)
Loved the extra inscription on this one …. A for the effort
Looking for a Glen Rice Inkredible and Alex Rodriguez cards
I'm in QA2 Step 7 and the site is down for maintenance. Noooo. Cant remember seeing that previously. Any idea how long that lasts? And if your grades pop you probably cant see them right? I can see the stage but it wont let me click on Orders for Details. If we are this late in the game, does that mean I wont be contacted for upcharge? If so, I guess no grand slams this time. Or 3-run homers. But maybe a 2 run-homer. And a double and a walk.
@UlyssesExtravaganza said:
I'm in QA2 Step 7 and the site is down for maintenance. Noooo. Cant remember seeing that previously. Any idea how long that las its? And if your grades pop you probably cant see them right? I can see the stage but it wont let me click on Orders for Details. If we are this late in the game, does that mean I wont be contacted for upcharge? If so, I guess no grand slams this time. Or 3-run homers. But maybe a 2 run-homer. And a double and a walk.
Usually only a week or two. Just kidding. A couple of hours at most. They usually do it during "off hours" but must be something urgent. Good luck!
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Not good and I've followed your subbing for years. You know high grade cards and this must hurt.
Just passed day 500 since my order arrived at PSA. Still “grading”. Crazy that this is where we are.
If PSA says that after years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years of consistently submitting high grade cards that Mike suddenly doesn't know how to pre-grade anymore, then Mike doesn't know how to pre-grade anymore and that's that.
Sorry, that's terrible to hear. I'm only at 418.
Haha - thanks for the votes of confidence! As i keep getting older, and keep needing new glasses, I can see that it might be me - but the straight-out-of-the-pack Fleer cards were all well centered - no way they are 7's and 8's, let alone too small. Ah well - I don't have high hopes for my remaining subs as a result of the last couple of beat downs (and the big difference in grades with SGC on that Clemente a couple of months ago). But it's something to do. For what it's worth, the Jordan stickers from the same box break got 9's last month....
Bosox1976
It's had a lingering affect on me, and I just don't have the zest or excitement that I had. It might be time for a hiatus.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
I'm quickly coming to the same boat. Their grading on the vintage stuff is pushing me away from even attempting that anymore, and to just focus on buying what's already graded. What's the point in sending in cards from pre-90s that are graded like a 2022 Heritage?
PSA spent a year trying to convince me they don't want my business by shutting down and now they're doubling down with this grading.
Soon I'm going to have to listen to them.
2 card Economy piggy back results
1996 Flair Showcase Class of 96 Kobe Bryant PSA 9
2020 Panini Select Field Level Silver Prizm Justin Herbert PSA 10
Ecstatic
PSA has always (or close enough to always) done that. A 6 doesn't mean "this card is pretty good for its age". Have you taken a look at Chris's ( @jordangretzkyfan ) thread on pulling 10s straight from the pack of '80s unopened? I trust it will reset your expectations.
Understand that I'm not suggesting that they haven't tightened their standards on that material; I have no way of knowing, but I'm saying that darned few of those cards ever came out of the pack Gem Mint in the first place.
I agree with the cards are not graded as "pretty good for the age". Personally what I think has happened is that the graded scale was created and based on cards produced pre-2000. With the influx of technology and printing techniques, new cards are mostly only at the top. There is no difference. But since they are primarily grading these new cards, the whole scale that was based on what they were grading when it was created has been shifted lower.
Read the standards and look at the cards coming back and many cards do not fit into the published standards, they are being held to a higher standard due to graders seeing 99% cards produced in the last few years.
I don't think anybody kids themselves that all 80's or older cards pulled from packs are 10's. But I would guess that the consensus here would be that grading consistency across the PSA Brand has varied with time. Things have tightened up before, over the years. I think many of us are not happy that our cards sat around for a year plus, and during that year things changed again.
If everybody needs to lower their thoughts a full grade on vintage, however, and grading prices stay stratospheric, the days of anybody grading commons or semi-stars, or base cards of non megastars, will be over soon (if not already). That's too bad - particularly for set collectors, registry folks, and people who just like the nuances of the "toughies" from each year.
And while tougher standards are fine, in and of themselves, when PSA gives me a 3 on a nice 1973 Clemente, and I crack it out and send it to SGC and get a 7.5, and I had pre-graded it as an 8 in my head, something is actually off (at PSA). I might grumble a little, but once things are two or more grades off, something seems actually wrong. Just my .02.
Bosox1976
Said perfectly Mike. I'll add an example on my end on how grading has gotten ridiculous on vintage....I once was collecting a graded 1971 Topps Baseball set. I was always buying these cards over the years raw. I would find really sharp ones and submit them starting about 15 years ago. I was getting 8's and the occasional 9. One time I sent in 38 and got 36 of the 38 at 8 or higher. These were cherry picked from 1 dealer and they were beautiful. Then about 7 years ago I started to not hardly get any 8's on subs from 1971 and forget about a 9. I notice most people can not grade 71s anymore. Did we all lose our eyes or did standards change? I know the answer.
Yeah, I get that, and I NEVER expect a 10 in any vintage I send. At this point I don't even expect a 9. If I get an 8 then it feels like a victory.
My point is that there have been more even grades in the past on vintage, because 9s and 10s are out there. Now that it SEEMS to be tightening on those the 7s and 8s will be more available and the 9s and 10s are going to be VERY expensive.
I also won't be sending any commons in for grading anymore. At least until enough time passes to see if there will still be interest in those at lower grades.
How was your turnaround time? I currently have three in Economy, but it hasn't been that long.
Shipped: 05/04/22
Delivered: 05/06/22
Logged: 05/10/22
Research & ID: 05/11/22
Grading: 05/17/22
I have 2 in economy that are approaching 2 full months. 1 in assembly and 1 in Research and ID (this one is PSA/DNA). I was really hoping to have those back in hand before Vacation and they are in the USPS hands longer than they need to be
I have seen a lot of comments that talk about a change in grading standards and there is a disappointment but maybe an acceptance. But I feel that it cant be accepted. It is absolutely necessary that grading standards are consistent from day 1 to now to 20 years from now. If not, what is anybody paying for? When you pay an amount to have your card graded? When you pay for a card that is in a grading company's holder? Mint means Mint. Always. Gem Mint means Gem Mint. Always. NM-MT means NM-MT. Always. And so on. There is no reinterpretation. There is no stricter periods of time. It is defined and laid out what the grade means to the company. If Mint is one thing in 2004 and another thing in 2022, there is no Mint. It means nothing. So I just hope there is not a tolerance for this idea that grading can become tougher. Grades for the same card would get worse over time. They cant. They have to stay the same. Exactly the same. That is the whole point of doing this. The cards have to be graded by the same standards always. Or they become worthless in the holders. Or just the same as they would be raw. If grading becomes stricter, there needs to be a page that defines the new stricter standards. Cards need to be identifiable as being graded under the new stricter standards. So yo
u cant treat an 8 from 20 years ago as the same as an 8 now. (Sorry, accidentally hit post mid sentence)
Over a decade on these boards and I cannot recall at any time that there was not a discussion on these boards about how grading was now getting stricter. There have always been discussions like this, and as long as professional grading exists there will always be discussions like this.
Anyone have any bulk modern orders entered last April showing movement. My bulk modern from 4/15/21 has been stuck in assembly for over 5 weeks.
Seeing firsthand how 2000 and up cards are being treated the exact same but vintage is now impossible to guess what grades will be assigned > @mrburns443 said:
Same here, Apr 22 Value Modern been in assembly for about the same time as yours
Good point but did it ever corelate with PSA having to hire thousands of news graders?
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
These were super quick. I piggy backed so I do not have the stats but less than 2 months
I'll add my two cents on the grading standards. I agree with much of what has been said above. To use a Mike Tomlin-ism (Steelers head coach), the standard is the standard. It should not change over time. Aside from some allowance for 1st generation holders where PSA was still evolving the grading industry in its infancy, a NM-MT card graded 20 years ago should be a NM-MT card today. Professional grading was invented to bring consistency to the industry in terms of both authenticity and condition. Of course there will be variations in how a given card is graded due to the subjective nature of grading (e.g., eye appeal). However, wholesale shifts in grading standards should not occur. We've talked about the grader of death over the years and periods of where grading seemed to tighten up a bit. However, it now seems vintage cards have been more harshly graded for a period of more than a year now. Getting an 8 on a card you thought should get a 9 isn't reason to protest. However, when you submit 500 cards that you used to always get 60% 8's and 15% 9's pretty consistently but now are getting 60% 7's and 15% 8's, that's when the system falls apart.
I have a few thousand cards that have been sitting at PSA for over a year. The only submission I've received back since the shutdown has been a 5 card regular submission. The results for that order was pretty much in line with my expectations. I think one 7 could have been an 8 but see my comment above about variability in grades for an individual card. I have a pretty consistent track record for grade distribution for 500 card blocks I submit. It will be interesting to compare these pending orders with past results. My thinking is if you get a veteran grader who's handled a lot of vintage over the years, your results will probably be typical of what we expect. We've seen occasional posts where results are as expected. I think the real problem comes when you get a newer grader who has mostly been grading ultra modern. If they get your vintage submission, the results are likely to be brutal. Hopefully PSA will carve out a niche of graders that focus solely on vintage and not mix and match submissions across the entire grading room. They have enough graders to do this now. A grader staring at refractors all day and then getting a submission of 1933 Goudey's would be nuts. The contrast in attributes is a bridge to far.
Grading has always been subjective, but for vintage, PSA grading standards have become ridiculous. Case in point:
Here's my first Rocket rookie, a PSA 7 that I loved owning, up against my recently graded PSA 4. The 4 has no creases or wrinkles, and I've been over it with a 20x loupe many times. The saddest part is, even though it checks every box for being an unaltered example, half the time this type of card would probably come back altered or minsizereq these days.
I would like to see PSA just once tell us why a certain grade was given, the only thing I ever hear is that they stand behind the grader's assessment. After spending tens of thousands of $$$ in grading fees over the years I have literally requested explanations on a grade one time, but still got a cookie cutter response back from CS. I understand they are busy but I'm not talking about a 2019 Prizm that got a 9, but rather a potential $15K vintage card that looked like a 7 but got a 4.
We can only hope that they make it right and allow free reviews on cases like this, but that is beyond doubtful...
Wow. Did you pay to have the grade reviewed? I don't know how it actually works because I've never tried sending in a graded card to have the grade reviewed. I think if a customer does that, they should at least provide a detailed explanation why a card was graded the way it was if they are standing by the original grade. It only seems fair.
No, it was a direct request to QA asking whether or not it was a mechanical error as to why it received said grade. I was fishing for a reason as to why it was given such a poor grade given that there were no signs of any kind that would warrant a 4. They weren't forthcoming with any information, saying the grader stood behind their decision, and if I wanted to I could send it in for review, at $350...
With CGC comic grading you get graders notes outlining reasons for their decision, at the $350 level we should expect/demand the same transparency from PSA, it JUST, MAKES, SENSE...
$350 for review?!
They certainly owe some transparency for that. Quite frankly, if they got the grade wrong in the first place, I don't believe the customer should have to pay for them to fix their mistake.
To be fair to PSA. I can personally see why they gave the card a 4. Yes the centering is " good," but look at the corner bottom right. It's rounded off from the corner. That can drop a gem mint 10 to a 6 in a flash. Another thing.... The edges are okay for the year but not mint. The discoloration is a problem.surface is actually the second big problem besides the rounded corner. I'm not trying to hurt you at all.... I'm just calling it like I see it. If nobody from PSA wants to give you a reason..... I WILL because I Care about you!!! I know that feeling from years ago. I sincerely hope this helps you buddy!!! But I understand your frustrations! The surface is a big factor. Stained. Now be aware also.... " I did sleep in a holiday express Last night!"
If you sent in both cards at the same time, the 4 would be graded higher. I think the 7 grader new the card , year and difficulty of obtaining the card in that condition. The 4 , I think the grader was looking for any negitive possible to mark the card down. (Possibly to knock the value down). What gets me is someone is supposed to re-check the card and grade.I the the 7 could have been a 6 , and the 4 , a 7. But I have bad eye-site.
This some kind of joke?
No. If I was joking..... I'd be a grader for Beckett
Do you have any reason to believe this last sentence, or are you just frustrated with the grade? That is, have you heard of anyone who recently sent in a stack of unaltered key rookies before, say, 1980, all sports, and gotten grades for only half of them?
After all the outrage from PWCC allegedly submitting altered cards, having them get straight grades, and then selling them on eBay, it is totally understandable to me that PSA would err on the side of caution when it comes to cards they aren't 100% sure are unaltered. Like maybe they would grade them if they were 70% sure they were unaltered before but would need to be 95% sure now. As I say, I don't blame them.
Made me laugh, that's for sure
@beachbumcollecting I also noticed the change in the CTD percentage chart. I am guessing that as PSA closes in on the remainder of the backlog (for the received dates of April and May 2021 before the shut down) there is less of a need to project it. I have just seen 2 of my April orders move to Assembly this week. My guess is that anyone in the remaining backlog will see similar movement soon. In any case…yay for the movement!!!
Live long, and prosper.
Daltex- I take that from my own experience with hockey cards and also others I know well. At least for vintage hockey, its been that way for the last couple of years. Perhaps its the new technology they are using at PSA, but whatever the reason it ends up rejecting a lot of cards as N6 or altered. Here's a recent order...
Historicalwood71- Appreciate the perspective. I shared those cards as a comparison point for grading standards. They have changed a lot.
I've also gotten some 77s sent back recently as altered. I know they weren't because I saw them pulled directly from packs. All the same N6: Min Size problem. I'm going to keep sending them though.
I had a recent allocation that was entered 4/21/22 move to assembly yesterday after maybe 15-20 days in grading. Hope it moves quick through those last stages but more importantly I hope the grades are good. I just wish I could know the grades with the asterisk that they might change in QA.
You know I luv you 💜
No problem 👍 I try to help people with questions. I know that feeling.
Don't want to ruin your holiday, but mine Submission from March, 2021, has been in Assembly since May 4th...
My recent Economy Submissions were usually back to my house within 30-35 days
107 card bulk modern just moved to QA 1 after about 5 and a half weeks in assembly. Hopefully not too much longer.
Arrived 2/24/21
Entered 4/15/21
Assembly 4/18/22
QA 1 5/26/22
291 Card Value-Modern physically arrived 2/21/21, entered 4/19/21, Assembly 5/5/22 and popped 5/25/22. I thought it went similar to my past subs: Some heartbreaks, some as expected, but a few really nice upside surprises too. Overall, can't complain as I think I had maybe $750 total out of pocket before grading fees in all these cards. First time sending in lots of junk wax era as just wanted to get them in at the $12 price knowing many will be worth next to nothing if not a 10 but ended up being my largest sub ever. Of the junk era grades it just appears that anything with Griffey on it gets slammed. But I previously encountered that when sending in his minor league issues. I also felt that for 1990 & 1991 UD & Parkhurst hockey, they grade the French versions more harsh. 1990 OPC Premier was as expected. The only 2 true heartbreaks in my mind were the 1982 McDonalds Gretzky stickers #20 & #22. I truly thought they were mint with a shot at 10 based on centering & corners. Stickers are always tough. Yet on the upside surprises, I thought the 1989 Swedish Semic Hasek was going to get a 4, so was thrilled for the 6. The 1986 Procards Visquel PSA 10 was a pleasant surprise, I got a lot of love on all the 1991 Skybox Jordan 10s, but the ones that made my jaw drop were the 2 1980 TCMA Wichita Aeros Lee Smith at 10 & 9. I bought I believe 5 sets for like $75 total maybe 7 years ago and sent in 2 previously I thought were best and got a pair of 8's. I thought these would get the same 8's too so I was blown away by the 9 & 10 as 1980 TCMA with the red borders is so tough. And the best surprise? No upcharges even though there should have been a few especially for sneaking in the old Maradonas! Thanks PSA!
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 59648658 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1980 Topps 160 Walter Payton All-Pro Card
2 1 59648659 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1984 Topps 358 Joe Montana Card
3 1 59648660 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Fleer 8 Larry Bird Card
4 1 59648661 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Fleer 8 Larry Bird Card
5 1 59648662 MINT 9 1989 Converse Larry Bird Card
6 1 59648663 GEM MINT 10 1989 Converse Karl Malone Card
7 1 59648664 GEM MINT 10 1989 Converse Magic Johnson Card
8 1 59648665 MINT 9 1989 Hoops 310 David Robinson Card
9 1 59648666 MINT 9 1989 Hoops 210 James Worthy Card
10 1 59648667 MINT 9 1989 Hoops 351 Steve Kerr Card
11 1 59648668 MINT 9 1989 Hoops 178 Akeem Olajuwon All-Star Card
12 1 59648669 MINT 9 1989 Hoops 96 Charles Barkley All-Star Card
13 1 59648670 GEM MINT 10 1989 Hoops 96 Charles Barkley All-Star Card
14 1 59648671 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Hoops 113 Tim Hardaway Card
15 1 59648672 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Hoops 113 Tim Hardaway Card
16 1 59648673 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Hoops 270 David Robinson Card
17 1 59648674 MINT 9 1990 Hoops 270 David Robinson Card
18 1 59648675 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Skybox 95 Tim Hardaway Card
19 1 59648676 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Skybox 14 Larry Bird Card
20 1 59648677 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Skybox 41 Michael Jordan Card
21 1 59648678 MINT 9 1990 Skybox 41 Michael Jordan Card
22 1 59648679 GEM MINT 10 1990 Skybox 268 Shawn Kemp Card
23 1 59648680 GEM MINT 10 1990 Skybox 268 Shawn Kemp Card
24 1 59648681 MINT 9 1990 Skybox 260 David Robinson Card
25 1 59648682 GEM MINT 10 1991 Hoops McDonald's 51 Charles Barkley Card
26 1 59648683 MINT 9 1991 Front Row Dikembe Mutombo 3 Dikembe Mutombo Card
27 1 59648684 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck Award Winner Hologram AW4 Michael Jordan Card
28 1 59648685 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck Award Winner Hologram AW4 Michael Jordan Card
29 1 59648686 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 2 Larry Johnson Card
30 1 59648687 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 2 Larry Johnson Card
31 1 59648688 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 3 Dikembe Mutombo Card
32 1 59648689 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 125 Scottie Pippen Card
33 1 59648690 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 125 Scottie Pippen Card
34 1 59648691 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 22 Michael Jordan Card
35 1 59648692 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 22 Michael Jordan Card
36 1 59648693 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 324 David Robinson Card
37 1 59648694 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 44 Michael Jordan Card
38 1 59648695 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 44 Michael Jordan Card
39 1 59648696 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 44 Michael Jordan Card
40 1 59648697 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 48 Michael Jordan All-Star Checklist Card
41 1 59648698 NEAR MINT 7 1991 Upper Deck 48 Michael Jordan All-Star Checklist Card
42 1 59648699 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 69 Michael Jordan Card
43 1 59648700 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 546 Team USA 3 Card
44 1 59648701 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 545 Team USA 2 Card
45 1 59648702 MINT 9 1991 Skybox 544 Team USA 1 Card
46 1 59648703 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 39 Michael Jordan Card
47 1 59648704 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 39 Michael Jordan Card
48 1 59648705 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 39 Michael Jordan Card
49 1 59648706 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 462 Michael Jordan/Scottie Pippen Card
50 1 59648707 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 334 Michael Jordan Card
51 1 59648708 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 408 Michael Jordan Card
52 1 59648709 MINT 9 1991 Skybox 583 Michael Jordan Card
53 1 59648710 MINT 9 1991 Skybox 307 Michael Jordan Card
54 1 59648711 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 572 Michael Jordan Card
55 1 59648712 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 333 Michael vs. Magic Card
56 1 59648713 GEM MINT 10 1991 Skybox 12 Larry Bird Card
57 1 59648714 MINT 9 1992 Front Row Draft Picks Christian Laettner Promo-Both Hands on the Ball Card
58 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card
59 1 59648716 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Drake's 37 Shaquille O'Neal Card
60 1 59648717 MINT 9 1993 Fax Pax World of Sport 8 Shaquille O'Neal Card
61 1 59648718 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Ultra 64 Greg Maddux Card
62 1 59648719 MINT 9 1991 Ultra 340 Edgar Martinez Card
63 1 59648720 MINT 9 1991 Ultra 340 Edgar Martinez Card
64 1 59648721 MINT 9 1991 Ultra 339 Randy Johnson Card
65 1 59648722 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 755 Jeff Bagwell Card
66 1 59648723 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 655 Roger Clemens Card
67 1 59648724 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 246 Frank Thomas Card
68 1 59648725 MINT 9 1991 Studio 128 Nolan Ryan Card
69 1 59648726 MINT 9 1990 Donruss 185 Mark McGwire Card
70 1 59648727 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 182 Kirby Puckett Card
71 1 59648728 MINT 9 1989 Topps 343 Gary Sheffield Card
72 1 59648729 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 647 Randy Johnson Card
73 1 59648730 MINT 9 1989 Topps 530 Nolan Ryan Card
74 1 59648731 MINT 9 1989 Topps 530 Nolan Ryan Card
75 1 59648732 MINT 9 1989 Topps 401 Jose Canseco All-Star Card
76 1 59648733 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Fleer 196 Gary Sheffield Card
77 1 59648734 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 196 Gary Sheffield Card
78 1 59648735 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 202 Barry Bonds Card
79 1 59648736 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 361 Barry Bonds Card
80 1 59648737 MINT 9 1987 Topps 450 Kirby Puckett Card
81 1 59648738 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer Update U-68 Greg Maddux Card
82 1 59648739 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps Traded 11T Barry Bonds Card
83 1 59648740 MINT 9 1986 Fleer Update U-20 Jose Canseco Card
84 1 59648741 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer Update U-76 Kevin Mitchell Card
85 1 59648742 MINT 9 1986 Fleer Update U-14 Barry Bonds Card
86 1 59648743 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer Update U-14 Barry Bonds Card
87 1 59648744 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Topps 536 Kirby Puckett Card
88 1 59648745 NEAR MINT 7 1982 Donruss 216 Rod Carew Card
89 1 59648746 MINT 9 1986 Procards Wasau Timbers Omar Visquel Wausau Timbers Card
90 1 59648747 GEM MINT 10 1986 Procards Wasau Timbers Omar Visquel Wausau Timbers Card
91 1 59648748 GEM MINT 10 1986 Procards Ventura Gulls Dave Wells Ventura Gulls Card
92 1 59648749 MINT 9 1986 Procards Pittsfield Cubs Rafael Palmeiro Card
93 1 59648750 MINT 9 1990 Procards A & AA Minor League Stars 26 Jeff Bagwell Card
94 1 59648751 MINT 9 1990 Star Minor League Baseball Wax 26 Ivan Rodriguez Card
95 1 59648752 MINT 9 1990 Star Minor League Baseball Wax 26 Ivan Rodriguez Card
96 1 59648753 GEM MINT 10 1990 Star Minor League Baseball Wax 26 Ivan Rodriguez Card
97 1 59648754 MINT 9 1990 Star Minor League Baseball Wax 30 Jeff Bagwell Card
98 1 59648755 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 TCMA Pawtucket Red Sox 5 Bob Ojeda Card
99 1 59648756 GEM MINT 10 1980 TCMA Wichita Aeros 12 Lee Smith Card
100 1 59648757 MINT 9 1980 TCMA Wichita Aeros 12 Lee Smith Card
101 1 59648758 MINT 9 1979 TCMA Tidewater Tides 7 Mookie Wilson Tidewater Tides Card
102 1 59648759 MINT 9 1979 TCMA Albuquerque Dukes 16 Pedro Guerrero Card
103 1 59648760 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Front Row Club House 2 Ken Griffey Jr. Drafted-Promo Card
104 1 59648761 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1993 Front Row Gold Collection Ken Griffey Jr. 1 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
105 1 59648762 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1994 Fleer Atlantic 13 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
106 1 59648763 MINT 9 1990 Topps Glossy Rookies 11 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
107 1 59648764 MINT 9 1990 Topps Glossy Rookies 11 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
108 1 59648765 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps Glossy Rookies 11 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
109 1 59648766 NEAR MINT 7 1990 Topps Glossy Rookies 11 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
110 1 59648767 MINT 9 1990 Sportflics 64 Randy Johnson Card
111 1 59648768 MINT 9 1990 Sportflics 64 Randy Johnson Card
112 1 59648769 MINT 9 1990 Sportflics 143 Barry Bonds Card
113 1 59648770 MINT 9 1990 Sportflics 143 Barry Bonds Card
114 1 59648771 MINT 9 1989 Sportflics 115 Nolan Ryan Card
115 1 59648772 MINT 9 1989 Sportflics 146 Barry Bonds Card
116 1 59648773 MINT 9 1987 Sportflics 10 Roger Clemens 1986 Copyright Card
117 1 59648774 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Sportflics 190 Bo Jackson 1986 Copyright Card
118 1 59648775 MINT 9 1989 Sportflics 224 Hot Rookie Prospects Milacki/Johnson/Martinez Card
119 1 59648776 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 Sportflics 7 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
120 1 59648777 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Sportflics 7 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
121 1 59648778 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Upper Deck 18 Pedro Martinez Star Rookie Card
122 1 59648779 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Classic Best 355 Pedro Martinez Card
123 1 59648780 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 Classic Best 355 Pedro Martinez Card
124 1 59648781 MINT 9 1991 Classic Best 355 Pedro Martinez Card
125 1 59648782 MINT 9 1995 Best Top 100 80 Vladimir Guerrero Albany Polecats Card
126 1 59648783 GEM MINT 10 1995 Best Top 100 80 Vladimir Guerrero Albany Polecats Card
127 1 59648784 MINT 9 1995 Best Top 100 80 Vladimir Guerrero Albany Polecats Card
128 1 59648785 MINT 9 1992 Classic 4 Sport 231 Derek Jeter Card
129 1 59648786 MINT 9 1992 Classic 4 Sport 231 Derek Jeter Card
130 1 59648787 MINT 9 1990 Fleer 363 Larry Walker Card
131 1 59648788 GEM MINT 10 1990 Fleer 520 Edgar Martinez Card
132 1 59648789 MINT 9 1990 Fleer 638 McGwire\Mattingly Card
133 1 59648790 GEM MINT 10 1990 Fleer 548 Sammy Sosa Card
134 1 59648791 MINT 9 1990 Fleer 548 Sammy Sosa Card
135 1 59648792 GEM MINT 10 1990 Fleer 461 Barry Bonds Card
136 1 59648793 GEM MINT 10 1990 Upper Deck 72 Juan Gonzalez Star Rookie Card
137 1 59648794 MINT 9 1990 Upper Deck 72 Juan Gonzalez Star Rookie Card
138 1 59648795 MINT 9 1990 Upper Deck 466 Larry Walker Card
139 1 59648796 MINT 9 1990 Upper Deck 711 Dave Justice Card
140 1 59648797 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Upper Deck 711 Dave Justice Card
141 1 59648798 FAIR 1.5 1978 Crack Campeonato Mundial 24 Maradona Card
142 1 59648799 GOOD 2 1979 Crack Super Futbol 58 Diego Maradona Card
143 1 59648800 GOOD 2 1979 Crack Super Futbol 1 Diego Maradona Card
144 1 59648801 GOOD 2 1979 Crack Super Futbol 12 Diego Maradona Card
145 1 59648802 GOOD 2 1979 Crack Super Futbol 15 Diego Maradona Card
146 1 59648803 POOR 1 1979 Crack Super Futbol Argentinos Juniors Discs 10 Maradona Card
147 1 59648804 GOOD 2 1979 Crack Super Futbol 21 Diego Maradona Card
148 1 59648805 VERY GOOD 3 1979 Crack Super Futbol 24 Diego Maradona Card
149 1 59648806 GOOD 2 1979 Crack Super Futbol 2 Diego Maradona Card
150 1 59648807 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 7-Eleven Discs Steve Yzerman Card
151 1 59648808 MINT 9 1988 Topps Stickers 8 Wayne Gretzky Card
152 1 59648809 MINT 9 1988 Topps Stickers 8 Wayne Gretzky Card
153 1 59648810 MINT 9 1985 Topps 85 Paul Coffey Card
154 1 59648811 GEM MINT 10 1985 Topps 85 Paul Coffey Card
155 1 59648812 MINT 9 1985 Topps 90 Marcel Dionne Card
156 1 59648813 MINT 9 1985 Topps Stickers 2 Wayne Gretzky Card
157 1 59648814 MINT 9 1985 Topps 29 Steve Yzerman Card
158 1 59648815 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Topps 120 Wayne Gretzky Card
159 1 59648816 MINT 9 1985 Topps 86 Ed Olczyk Card
160 1 59648817 MINT 9 1984 O-Pee-Chee 357 Wayne Gretzky Card
161 1 59648818 MINT 9 1984 O-Pee-Chee 357 Wayne Gretzky Card
162 1 59648819 MINT 9 1984 O-Pee-Chee 357 Wayne Gretzky Card
163 1 59648820 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1984 Topps 51 Wayne Gretzky Card
164 1 59648821 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Topps 1 Ray Bourque Card
165 1 59648822 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Topps 1 Ray Bourque Card
166 1 59648823 MINT 9 1984 Topps 1 Ray Bourque Card
167 1 59648824 MINT 9 1984 Topps 1 Ray Bourque Card
168 1 59648825 NEAR MINT 7 1984 Topps 1 Ray Bourque Card
169 1 59648826 NEAR MINT 7 1988 Esso All-Stars Mario Lemieux Card
170 1 59648827 GEM MINT 10 1988 Esso All-Stars Mario Lemieux Card
171 1 59648828 MINT 9 1988 Esso All-Stars Wayne Gretzky Card
172 1 59648829 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Esso All-Stars Wayne Gretzky Card
173 1 59648830 MINT 9 1986 Kraft Drawings Wendel Clark Card
174 1 59648831 GEM MINT 10 1986 Kraft Drawings Chris Chelios Card
175 1 59648832 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1992 Swedish Semic Elitserien Stickers 319 Daniel Alfredsson Card
176 1 59648833 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Semic World Championship Stickers 178 Dominik Hasek Card
177 1 59648834 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1982 McDonald's Sticker 22 Wayne Gretzky Card
178 1 59648835 NEAR MINT 7 1982 McDonald's Sticker 20 Wayne Gretzky Card
179 1 59648836 MINT 9 1983 O-Pee-Chee 385 Dale Hawerchuk Card
180 1 59648837 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 O-Pee-Chee 29 Wayne Gretzky Card
181 1 59648838 NEAR MINT 7 1983 O-Pee-Chee 216 Wayne Gretzky Assist Leader Card
182 1 59648839 MINT 9 1983 O-Pee-Chee 215 Wayne Gretzky Goal Leaders Card
183 1 59648840 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 O-Pee-Chee 212 Wayne Gretzky Record Breaker Card
184 1 59648841 MINT 9 1983 O-Pee-Chee 203 Wayne Gretzky Hart Trophy Card
185 1 59648842 NEAR MINT 7 1982 O-Pee-Chee 7 Ray Bourque Card
186 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1986 Kamloops Blazers Perforated Mark Recchi Card
187 1 59648844 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Kamloops Blazers Perforated Scott Neidermayer Card
188 1 59648845 MINT 9 1990 Kraft 34 Mike Modano Card
189 1 59648846 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 Kraft 42 Mats Sundin Card
190 1 59648847 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 Panini Stickers 340 Mike Modano Card
191 1 59648848 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Panini Stickers 341 Mark Recchi Card
192 1 59648849 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 O-Pee-Chee 475 Ray Bourque Card
193 1 59648850 GEM MINT 10 1992 Topps 513 Martin Brodeur Card
194 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card
195 1 59648852 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 148 Joe Sakic French Card
196 1 59648853 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 157 Brett Hull French Card
197 1 59648854 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 445 Nicklas Lidstrom French Card
198 1 59648855 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 263 Dominik Hasek French Card
199 1 59648856 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 449 Dominik Hasek French Card
200 1 59648857 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 222 Wayne Gretzky French Card
201 1 59648858 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 222 Wayne Gretzky French Card
202 1 59648859 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 433 Wayne Gretzky French Card
203 1 59648860 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 429 Wayne Gretzky French Card
204 1 59648861 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 207 Wayne Gretzky French Card
205 1 59648862 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 73 Wayne Gretzky French Card
206 1 59648863 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 73 Wayne Gretzky French Card
207 1 59648864 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 73 Wayne Gretzky French Card
208 1 59648865 NEAR MINT 7 1991 Parkhurst 81 Mike Modano French Card
209 1 59648866 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 94 Scott Niedermayer French Card
210 1 59648867 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
211 1 59648868 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
212 1 59648869 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
213 1 59648870 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
214 1 59648871 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
215 1 59648872 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
216 1 59648873 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
217 1 59648874 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr French Card
218 1 59648875 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 137 Mario Lemieux French Card
219 1 59648876 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov French Card
220 1 59648877 NEAR MINT 7 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov French Card
221 1 59648878 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov French Card
222 1 59648879 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 219 Brett Hull French Card
223 1 59648880 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 398 Felix Potvin French Card
224 1 59648881 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 404 Pavel Bure French Card
225 1 59648882 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 424 Keith Tkachuk French Card
226 1 59648883 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Blues Kodak 31 Curtis Joseph Card
227 1 59648884 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 Upper Deck Award Winners Holograms AW6 Wayne Gretzky Card
228 1 59648885 NEAR MINT 7 1991 Upper Deck Award Winners Holograms AW6 Wayne Gretzky Card
229 1 59648886 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Upper Deck Award Winners Holograms AW7 Ed Belfour Card
230 1 59648887 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Upper Deck 698 Keith Tkachuk Card
231 1 59648888 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 21 Teemu Selanne Card
232 1 59648889 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 32 Mike Modano Card
233 1 59648890 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 26 Niklas Lidstrom Card
234 1 59648891 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 460 Felix Potvin Card
235 1 59648892 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Upper Deck 144 Sergei Fedorov Card
236 1 59648893 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Upper Deck 144 Sergei Fedorov Card
237 1 59648894 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 54 Pavel Bure Card
238 1 59648895 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 54 Pavel Bure Card
239 1 59648896 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 64 Peter Forsberg Card
240 1 59648897 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 64 Peter Forsberg Card
241 1 59648898 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 64 Peter Forsberg Card
242 1 59648899 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 Upper Deck 335 Dominik Hasek Card
243 1 59648900 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 335 Dominik Hasek Card
244 1 59648901 MINT 9 1991 Upper Deck 335 Dominik Hasek Card
245 1 59648902 GEM MINT 10 1991 Upper Deck 20 Jaromir Jagr Card
246 1 59648903 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Upper Deck 20 Jaromir Jagr Card
247 1 59648904 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 424 Keith Tkachuk French Card
248 1 59648905 GEM MINT 10 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 81 Petr Nedved Card
249 1 59648906 GEM MINT 10 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 30 Sergei Fedorov Card
250 1 59648907 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 30 Sergei Fedorov Card
251 1 59648908 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 75 Alexander Mogilny Card
252 1 59648909 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 61 Brian Leetch Card
253 1 59648910 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 51 Curtis Joseph Card
254 1 59648911 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 47 Brett Hull Card
255 1 59648912 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 63 Mario Lemieux Card
256 1 59648913 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 86 Owen Nolan Card
257 1 59648914 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 38 Wayne Gretzky Card
258 1 59648915 MINT 9 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 38 Wayne Gretzky Card
259 1 59648916 GEM MINT 10 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 25 Tie Domi Card
260 1 59648917 GEM MINT 10 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 50 Jaromir Jagr Card
261 1 59648918 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov Card
262 1 59648919 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov Card
263 1 59648920 GEM MINT 10 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov Card
264 1 59648921 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 38 Sergei Fedorov Card
265 1 59648922 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst Phc PHC5 Sergei Federov Card
266 1 59648923 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Parkhurst 94 Scott Niedermayer Card
267 1 59648924 GEM MINT 10 1991 Parkhurst 94 Scott Niedermayer Card
268 1 59648925 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 94 Scott Niedermayer Card
269 1 59648926 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 37 Nicklas Lidstrom (Niklas) Card
270 1 59648927 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 132 Jaromir Jagr Card
271 1 59648928 MINT 9 1991 Parkhurst 73 Wayne Gretzky Card
272 1 59648929 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 67 Pavel Bure Card
273 1 59648930 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 24 Jaromir Jagr Card
274 1 59648931 MINT 9 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 3 Wayne Gretzky Card
275 1 59648932 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 117 Nicklas Lidstrom Card
276 1 59648933 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 117 Nicklas Lidstrom Card
277 1 59648934 MINT 9 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 117 Nicklas Lidstrom Card
278 1 59648935 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 O-Pee-Chee Premier 114 Mario Lemieux Card
279 1 59648936 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Score Canadian 179 Jeremy Roenick Card
280 1 59648937 NEAR MINT 7 1990 7th Inning Sketch Lhjmq 222 Martin Brodeur Card
281 1 59648938 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 7th Inning Sketch Hmq 35 Felix Potvin Hmq Card
282 1 59648939 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 7th Inning Sketch Hmq 35 Felix Potvin Hmq Card
283 1 59648940 MINT 9 1989 7th Inning Sketch Ohl 1 Eric Lindros Oshawa Generals Card
284 1 59648941 MINT 9 1989 7th Inning Sketch Ohl 195 Eric Lindros Card
285 1 59648942 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Upper Deck French 352 Owen Nolan Card
286 1 59648943 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 Upper Deck French 55 Ed Belfour Card
287 1 59648944 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Upper Deck French 63 Jeremy Roenick Card
288 1 59648945 NEAR MINT 7 1990 Upper Deck French 526 Pavel Bure Card
289 1 59648946 MINT 9 1990 Upper Deck French 24 Alexander Mogilny Card
290 1 59648947 GEM MINT 10 1990 Upper Deck French 24 Alexander Mogilny Card
291 1 59648948 GEM MINT 10 1990 Upper Deck French 175 Curtis Joseph Card
Wow!!! Glad you came out where expected (or thereabouts)!
I enjoyed looking at your results (especially the maradonas)!!!
Live long, and prosper.
PSA has had my cards for 16 months now….still in "Grading" (They were actually entered 05.04.2021). PSA is simply overpriced, inconsistent, and way, way SLOW. A terrific combination! No thanks.
There absolutely has to be something wrong when you can get a $50 submission back in 15 to 18 days and other in-hand orders are wallowing for months.... now even years! My puny little 20 card submission was entered 4/14/2021.
Just give me my order back sometime this century so I can close the book on this fiasco!
sjjs28@comcast.net
Collector of Baseball Hall of Famer's and Stars, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game and 1969 Topps Decals
Registered Sets: 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
Got some nice surprise poppage. Was not expecting it so soon. 18 days turnaround on comic books is pretty cool. Think they were charging $24 for 180 days and $15 more for quick turnaround which was supposed to be 39 days. So they blew that out of the water. Dont know much about comics but had these sitting around all this time and I like getting things slabbed so thought I would give it a try. Was not necessarily looking at it as a return on investment thing. Just was interested in getting them slabbed for the PC and knowing soon. Very pleased with the results. I knew the 7.0 was not that great looking but it just was something I always loved so wanted to see it in the case.
Finally getting some cards back from the great backlog. Most of what I sent in was for registry sets I’m working on. Initial impressions is that things are slightly different and the 6s and 7s popped more than I would have liked or have seen in the past. Nothing that was a head scratcher as I can see what kept them from mint just wasn’t sure they warranted the extreme drop.
Lots of AROD
Some various autos (wish this was in a Bears uni)
Loved the extra inscription on this one …. A for the effort
I'm in QA2 Step 7 and the site is down for maintenance. Noooo.
Cant remember seeing that previously. Any idea how long that lasts? And if your grades pop you probably cant see them right? I can see the stage but it wont let me click on Orders for Details. If we are this late in the game, does that mean I wont be contacted for upcharge? If so, I guess no grand slams this time. Or 3-run homers. But maybe a 2 run-homer. And a double and a walk.
Usually only a week or two. Just kidding. A couple of hours at most. They usually do it during "off hours" but must be something urgent. Good luck!