I have stuff that has been in Newport Beach for over 14 months (over 12 months since "entered")...I am sure many of you do also. They shut down submissions, hired boatloads of people, invested in tech and still submissions remain piled up there...I just don't get it...
Had another economy sub pop overnight. A mixed bag of ultra modern and vintage stuff. Had two gem looking 1989 Score Barry Sanders from sealed sets, one got an 8 and one got N5: Altered Stock. Also had a Marino rc get min-sized. Something of note, they didn't charge me for the Marino. In my previous experience they would charge then give a voucher. In this case, no charge and no voucher.
In other news, a value modern entered 4/7/21 moved from assembly to QA2 this morning.
Well I have my Last of the 11 subs submitted before the Lockdown moving. On Friday last week it moved from Assem to Qual Ck 1, then Tuesday it moved from Qual Ck 1 to Qual Ck 2. Am I going to have to wait until after Midnight on This Fri/Sat like my last 3 subs, or can we just get a break and Get R Done!
14 Months since arrival.
This ones going to be interesting, 26 Cards, 19 of them are Mark McGwire's. Measured for Centering 4 different times with the Centering Tool. They should all be 9's, but we'll see if with the new Standards they don't all become 8's! Taking Bets!
Seems like last two weeks has been at a standstill for my subs. Oldest arrived over 14 months ago, still in grading. Finally got the lottery submission, and now they are in grading too. Dying to see how some breakouts do being re-graded.
Order # Submission # Arrived Entered Shipped Status Items Service
22634398 10820042 04/11/22 04/13/22 N/A See Details 20 Economy
22625377 10812302 04/04/22 04/06/22 N/A See Details 20 Economy
22342902 10656070 06/11/21 06/14/21 08/10/21
282416624010 Completed 1 CRC
22287311 10621401 03/18/21 05/03/21 N/A See Details 70 Deal
22271607 10584479 03/15/21 04/27/21 N/A See Details 22 Value Vintage (1971-)
22208341 10560564 02/26/21 03/31/21 05/11/21
9210890163776906336583 Completed 2 Regular
22230612 10524901 02/16/21 04/11/21 N/A See Details 44 Monthly Special 14
"...life is but a dream."
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
Ask and you shall receive! Just Popped and pretty much how I thought it would go if not just a tad better. 7 out of 17 MINT 9's on the Topps McGwire, I guess is better than I was expecting. Overall the results are one notch above Garbage, but actually this will be good for the long term Mission.
Mission: At any time that I think about subbing cards after PSA is back to some sort of relevance, I'll just think of the last 3-4 subs from this time period, and that should Clearly dissuade me from that Path!
YeeHaw!
Neil
1 1 58224317 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire Card
2 1 58224318 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire Card
3 1 58224319 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire Card
4 1 58224320 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire Card
5 1 58224321 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire Card
6 1 58224322 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 548 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
7 1 58224323 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 548 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
8 1 58224324 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 548 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
9 1 58224325 NEAR MINT 7 1988 Donruss 40 Mark Grace Card
10 1 58224326 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Donruss 40 Mark Grace Card
11 1 58224327 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 616 Bill Ripken Black Box Over Error Card
12 1 58224328 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 196 Gary Sheffield Card
13 1 58224329 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 320 Barry Bonds Card
14 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
15 1 58224331 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
16 1 58224332 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
17 1 58224333 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
18 1 58224334 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
19 1 58224335 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
20 1 58224336 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
21 1 58224337 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
22 1 58224338 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
23 1 58224339 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
24 1 58224340 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
25 1 58224341 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
26 1 58224342 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
What does a PSA 8, 9, and 10 go for with the 87 McGwire?...I may have to sub a bunch when prices come back down.....I have 125 minty ones in my closet....Congrats Neil!
@azvike said:
What does a PSA 8, 9, and 10 go for with the 87 McGwire?...I may have to sub a bunch when prices come back down.....I have 125 minty ones in my closet....Congrats Neil!
Not much, before the whole PSA IMO changing up the Grading Goal Posts, or new inexperienced Graders afraid to give out 9's and 10's, you could get a reasonable return on 9's and 10's (of course this was 14-15 months ago, not now!), but now, even when you get them, you can't give them away, the 8's go for like $5-$8 bucks.....MINT 9's like $10-$12, Not worth it! This was more of an experiment for myself after 25 years of doing this (Subbing), and with the new grading system it made my experiment moot! I still think the entire sub was MINT 9. WITHOUT EXCEPTION! Well maybe one EXCEPTION, Although I missed something on the one VG-EX 4 and as for the Min Size....heres another abbreviation for you...B. S. !
I have another 20-30 of these, but this told me what I need to know...Only cost me $364 for this lesson...wait it didn't really tell me Sheisa on a shingle!
Last Sub! LAST LAST SUB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry to hear Neil! Now that I’m starting to get my grades back and have time to sort through them. I still can’t believe the inconsistencies in grades. My last 2 came back pretty close to expectations that I wrote down before I submitted the cards almost 14 months ago. The two before that averaged about 2 grades lower than the expectations that I wrote down with some 3 grades lower. I also had more damage to cards submitted than all my other submissions combined. I still have 5 subs to go including one with 185 cards.
@burghman said:
Not many ticket subbers here, but just a heads up that my 2 ticket sub that hit grading June 2021 moved to assembly today. The finish line is near.
In case anyone out there is awaiting tickets, my grades popped tonight and I’m very happy. I bought a lot of 5 Super Bowl tickets - 3 slabbed as 8s and a 9 with 2 raw. In hand the raw ones looked pretty damn good but I’m no ticket expert. Why wouldn’t they be graded unless there was something seriously wrong with them? Figured I’d need them slabbed for resale eventually anyway, so sent them in. Got an 8 on a 2002 gold (Brady’s first and SB MVP) and a 7 on a 2005 purple (his 3rd). I’m no Pats fan as you may guess from my avatar and nickname here, but I recognize the value his name brings. Got the grades I hoped even though I was expected much worse news - if they had initially been graded, the lot would have been way out of my price range. The risk paid off - definitely no complaints from me.
@burghman said:
Not many ticket subbers here, but just a heads up that my 2 ticket sub that hit grading June 2021 moved to assembly today. The finish line is near.
In case anyone out there is awaiting tickets, my grades popped tonight and I’m very happy. I bought a lot of 5 Super Bowl tickets - 3 slabbed as 8s and a 9 with 2 raw. In hand the raw ones looked pretty damn good but I’m no ticket expert. Why wouldn’t they be graded unless there was something seriously wrong with them? Figured I’d need them slabbed for resale eventually anyway, so sent them in. Got an 8 on a 2002 gold (Brady’s first and SB MVP) and a 7 on a 2005 purple (his 3rd). I’m no Pats fan as you may guess from my avatar and nickname here, but I recognize the value his name brings. Got the grades I hoped even though I was expected much worse news - if they had initially been graded, the lot would have been way out of my price range. The risk paid off - definitely no complaints from me.
That's great to hear, as I just sent my first two ticket subs off last week. Thanks!
Day 01 3.22 Picked for Econ$50 20-card submission
Day 01 3.22 USPS Priority Mailed 7-Cards
Day 03 3.24 Received / Arrived
Day 08 3.29 Order Prep / Research/ID
Day 15 4.06 Grading
Day 32 4.22 Assembly
Day 35 4.25 QA Check 1
Day 37 4.27 QA Check 2
Day 38 4.28 Shipping
1997 (26 year old) Modern Cards: Three 10's, Four 9's
Just an FYI... I sent in three signed baseballs (1 graded, 2 just authenticated), two of which were at the $15 quarterly special level. I mailed them on 4/19, received 4/21, entered 4/25, popped 4/27. That's EXCEPTIONALLY fast service, and even more surprising when two of them were at the $15 special level. All three passed, as they should've (Trout, Griffey, Balkovec).
Not new to card collecting but new to the grading game. Reading through this thread Im on the fence now if I should submit my high value nba cards 90s and some 80s to PSA at all. Sounds like the scale is all over the place w much less consistency then before and actually much harder grading then a couple years back. For $50 or $100 per card it seems like playing the lottery - which it should not be.
@jkpilot said:
Not new to card collecting but new to the grading game. Reading through this thread Im on the fence now if I should submit my high value nba cards 90s and some 80s to PSA at all. Sounds like the scale is all over the place w much less consistency then before and actually much harder grading then a couple years back. For $50 or $100 per card it seems like playing the lottery - which it should not be.
I've seen many more posting with positive results from the Economy submissions than with stuff coming out of the backlog. I've personally had 2 Economy submissions (a total of 10 cards) that were as I was expecting or better. I feel like this is safer if you have some higher value cards really worth submitting at $50 a pop. I don't know if PSA is giving these more attention or just has the more senior graders handling them. You also get them back in a very reasonable turnaround time.
My economy orders this year have been on point ... My first order from the baacklog has been in QA2 for an eternity ... I am hoping those are as expected as well.
First one hit just over a year old. Mostly cards for registry sets I have been building.
Mixed bag ... 1 upcharge and that is a first for me. Some unfortunate N6/N8s. I would have liked to see a few more 10s but overall pretty satisfied. A few misses, likely on my end, that dropped a couple of 4-6s.
Looking for a Glen Rice Inkredible and Alex Rodriguez cards
@jkpilot said:
Not new to card collecting but new to the grading game. Reading through this thread Im on the fence now if I should submit my high value nba cards 90s and some 80s to PSA at all. Sounds like the scale is all over the place w much less consistency then before and actually much harder grading then a couple years back. For $50 or $100 per card it seems like playing the lottery - which it should not be.
If you've not submitted cards before, it is too expensive right now to submit. Instead you should at the very least post pictures to see if the more experienced submitters think that you can get the grades you'd need to make the cost worthwhile.
@jkpilot said:
Not new to card collecting but new to the grading game. Reading through this thread Im on the fence now if I should submit my high value nba cards 90s and some 80s to PSA at all. Sounds like the scale is all over the place w much less consistency then before and actually much harder grading then a couple years back. For $50 or $100 per card it seems like playing the lottery - which it should not be.
If you've not submitted cards before, it is too expensive right now to submit. Instead you should at the very least post pictures to see if the more experienced submitters think that you can get the grades you'd need to make the cost worthwhile.
I heavily scrutinized all my picks for submission. Looked at them under light at all angles, corners/surface no visible flaws. Some older 80s early 90s NBA cards are off center some more then others, not sure how much they knock down for OC but rest of cards mint. I can honestly say what I want to send is all 9/10s (maybe 7-8 for OC older cards) if they are not Im really not sure what could be any higher grade!
@jkpilot said:
Not new to card collecting but new to the grading game. Reading through this thread Im on the fence now if I should submit my high value nba cards 90s and some 80s to PSA at all. Sounds like the scale is all over the place w much less consistency then before and actually much harder grading then a couple years back. For $50 or $100 per card it seems like playing the lottery - which it should not be.
If you've not submitted cards before, it is too expensive right now to submit. Instead you should at the very least post pictures to see if the more experienced submitters think that you can get the grades you'd need to make the cost worthwhile.
I heavily scrutinized all my picks for submission. Looked at them under light at all angles, corners/surface no visible flaws. Some older 80s early 90s NBA cards are off center some more then others, not sure how much they knock down for OC but rest of cards mint. I can honestly say what I want to send is all 9/10s (maybe 7-8 for OC older cards) if they are not Im really not sure what could be any higher grade!
Look at POP report for your cards in question, that should give you insight into how many 10s you can expect.
Buy some cheap 9s and 10s of cards from those sets to have them in hand to compare.
Post pictures here, for non biased opinions.
And finally, temper expectations of getting a lot of 10s from that era
Is anybody getting poppage from the great backup period yet - i.e. Values logged in from mid-April forward? Anybody have a pop from the 60's special of that same timeframe? Thanks
@Bosox1976 said:
Is anybody getting poppage from the great backup period yet - i.e. Values logged in from mid-April forward? Anybody have a pop from the 60's special of that same timeframe? Thanks
I'm still waiting for my 60's special that is in grading.
ARRIVED ENTERED
04/05/21 05/05/21
@Bosox1976 said:
Is anybody getting poppage from the great backup period yet - i.e. Values logged in from mid-April forward? Anybody have a pop from the 60's special of that same timeframe? Thanks
Arrived Entered
03/04/21 04/12/21
Grades available today
I have several more in assembly from the same time frame and some still in grading
Looking for a Glen Rice Inkredible and Alex Rodriguez cards
@Bosox1976 said:
Is anybody getting poppage from the great backup period yet - i.e. Values logged in from mid-April forward? Anybody have a pop from the 60's special of that same timeframe? Thanks
Arrived Entered
03/04/21 04/12/21
Grades available today
I have several more in assembly from the same time frame and some still in grading
How long were each of you in QA2? My order was entered 4/15/21 and I’m about to pass the one-week mark in QA2.
We need to have beneficiary forms with the subs. I believe there is an actual chance of celebrating 3 birthdays before poppage. Feb 21, 22 and 2023. Oh my. Thank goodness they're doing the ebay authentication now to keep them busy. OMG.
@Bosox1976 said:
Is anybody getting poppage from the great backup period yet - i.e. Values logged in from mid-April forward? Anybody have a pop from the 60's special of that same timeframe? Thanks
Arrived Entered
03/04/21 04/12/21
Grades available today
I have several more in assembly from the same time frame and some still in grading
How long were each of you in QA2? My order was entered 4/15/21 and I’m about to pass the one-week mark in QA2.
about 2 weeks
Looking for a Glen Rice Inkredible and Alex Rodriguez cards
My cards that I have been waiting on for 14 months are on a FedEx truck about 12 miles down the road. Hard to not be distracted by that. Hope that truck gets here soon.
@UlyssesExtravaganza said:
My cards that I have been waiting on for 14 months are on a FedEx truck about 12 miles down the road. Hard to not be distracted by that. Hope that truck gets here soon.
Forget the FEDEX truck....you could have walked to Newport Beach by now.
@Bosox1976 said:
Is anybody getting poppage from the great backup period yet - i.e. Values logged in from mid-April forward? Anybody have a pop from the 60's special of that same timeframe? Thanks
Arrived Entered
03/04/21 04/12/21
Grades available today
I have several more in assembly from the same time frame and some still in grading
How long were each of you in QA2? My order was entered 4/15/21 and I’m about to pass the one-week mark in QA2.
Longest I had waited was 5 days but most were 1-2 days now I have an economy order that has been in QA2 for 6 days now. I went digging for an upcharge email thinking that must be why but I don't see anything.
They are now here. Probably my most anxiously awaited package ever. Been a rough 14 month wait but great to have them back. I know many like pics so here are my faves. For now, I will stay positive. Letdowns maybe another time. I did try to put them in order of how much I liked them.
@UlyssesExtravaganza said:
They are now here. Probably my most anxiously awaited package ever. Been a rough 14 month wait but great to have them back. I know many like pics so here are my faves. For now, I will stay positive. Letdowns maybe another time. I did try to put them in order of how much I liked them.
@UlyssesExtravaganza said:
They are now here. Probably my most anxiously awaited package ever. Been a rough 14 month wait but great to have them back. I know many like pics so here are my faves. For now, I will stay positive. Letdowns maybe another time. I did try to put them in order of how much I liked them.
Thanks. Larkins actually came from a vending box case that I still have not finished going through. Unfortunately also submitted Bo and McGwire but no gems there. Its funny the condition is pretty consistent for specific players from box to box. Dont think there is a single mint Bonds Canseco Mattingly Ripken after going through 15 or so boxes. But Larkin McGwire, Bo, Bobby Witt Mitch Williams 🤣, they usually look like they have a nice shot at mint or better. Bought the case from BBCE and for the price it was well worth it for the entertainment. Last I checked they still have one.
@UlyssesExtravaganza said:
They are now here. Probably my most anxiously awaited package ever. Been a rough 14 month wait but great to have them back. I know many like pics so here are my faves. For now, I will stay positive. Letdowns maybe another time. I did try to put them in order of how much I liked them.
What are the odds that Montana, Marino and Elway got 9's while the other black refractors got 10s? Do those grades jive with what you are seeing?
I'm glad (:() to see I'm not the only one waiting on a Value submission from 2021. I entered 175 and all Topps from 1981.
They arrived on March 3rd, were entered on April 19th and are still in Grading. Maybe they'll be out by Memorial Day!?!
I've done better with Economy since they've reopened, but I noticed that each submission has taken 4 or 5 days longer than the previous submittals. The most recent took exactly 30 days. A couple months ago they were shipped after about 21 days.
Valid point on which refractors got the 9s. I do feel like the 9s of Elway and Marino and Montano look pretty solid. Its a tough one cause not clear how much space is supposed to be underneath the name. Think I have seen some variation there. Did just learn the Gus Frerotte was a POP 1. Feel confident it could stay that because if we dont get to $12 again not sure anyone will submit a Gus again. I cant complain and say the 10 was not given because it is a more valuable card. I had some 1984 Nestle Hand Cuts and the ones that are submitted are all pretty much centered to PSA 10 specifications with sharp corners and edges and free of major print defects. So there they gave me a 10 on a Strawberry and a 9 on Kent Tekulve and Jack Clark. So it balances out. It works out for me they felt that was a 10. But with a lot of those hard for me to see the difference between the 9 and the 10. Even sometimes an 8 and a 10.
Cool. Thanks. PC stuff for now so nice to know they look like nice examples in the current holders. The Lynn was in my Christmas stocking when I was maybe 12 or 13 so that one for certain stays with me as long as I'm around. Funny cause I think I like the Brett 6 better than one of the 7s.
@Bosox1976 said:
Is anybody getting poppage from the great backup period yet - i.e. Values logged in from mid-April forward? Anybody have a pop from the 60's special of that same timeframe? Thanks
Arrived Entered
03/04/21 04/12/21
Grades available today
I have several more in assembly from the same time frame and some still in grading
How long were each of you in QA2? My order was entered 4/15/21 and I’m about to pass the one-week mark in QA2.
Grades popped today. Assumed the worst based on stories others have shared recently...and got it. Managed to get an 8 on an Eric Dickerson rookie but every other pre-1987 card was a 7 or below. It's a damn miracle I got an 8 on my Jerry Rice rookie last spring. An expensive pile of coasters, paperweights and door stops.
20 card economy popped today after 7 days in QA2 (My longest stint in QA2 in over a year). 14/20 cards got 10's including a 1996 Bowmans Best Ray Lewis HOF RC I needed for my set. Bought it raw a month ago for $30 and predicted a 9 on the high side. Kind of nice being being into a card for $80 that would have cost me $700+. This sub a mixed bag of 'older' 1998-2021 stuff I grabbed from a local card shop. I did pretty well on it. Have another economy sub sitting in QA2 that arrived a week before this one. Only difference is the other one is all ultra modern (2020/21 stuff) and this one was mixed.
Grades popped today. Assumed the worst based on stories others have shared recently...and got it. Managed to get an 8 on an Eric Dickerson rookie but every other pre-1987 card was a 7 or below. It's a damn miracle I got an 8 on my Jerry Rice rookie last spring. An expensive pile of coasters, paperweights and door stops.
Ugh. Congratulations on the Dickerson. Sorry about the beatdown on the rest.
Grades popped today. Assumed the worst based on stories others have shared recently...and got it. Managed to get an 8 on an Eric Dickerson rookie but every other pre-1987 card was a 7 or below. It's a damn miracle I got an 8 on my Jerry Rice rookie last spring. An expensive pile of coasters, paperweights and door stops.
Ugh. Congratulations on the Dickerson. Sorry about the beatdown on the rest.
Thanks. Trying not to be too pessimistic. The Dickerson was fair, as was a Randall Cunningham rookie (8), an 86 Steve Young rookie (7…good centering but a softened corner and a few print circles) and a 74 second-year Mike Schmidt (5…hoped for a 6 or 6.5 but oh well). Nothing high dollar but cards from my youth I wanted slabbed.
Thought I had good 8 or better potential with the 86 Kosar/Reed/Payton/Montana/Marino/Smith and couldn’t get anything above a 7. It’s fair to say I have a love/hate relationship with 86 Topps football. Love the cards but hate the grading disappointment!
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I have stuff that has been in Newport Beach for over 14 months (over 12 months since "entered")...I am sure many of you do also. They shut down submissions, hired boatloads of people, invested in tech and still submissions remain piled up there...I just don't get it...
Had another economy sub pop overnight. A mixed bag of ultra modern and vintage stuff. Had two gem looking 1989 Score Barry Sanders from sealed sets, one got an 8 and one got N5: Altered Stock. Also had a Marino rc get min-sized. Something of note, they didn't charge me for the Marino. In my previous experience they would charge then give a voucher. In this case, no charge and no voucher.
In other news, a value modern entered 4/7/21 moved from assembly to QA2 this morning.
Good Day,
Well I have my Last of the 11 subs submitted before the Lockdown moving. On Friday last week it moved from Assem to Qual Ck 1, then Tuesday it moved from Qual Ck 1 to Qual Ck 2. Am I going to have to wait until after Midnight on This Fri/Sat like my last 3 subs, or can we just get a break and Get R Done!
14 Months since arrival.
This ones going to be interesting, 26 Cards, 19 of them are Mark McGwire's. Measured for Centering 4 different times with the Centering Tool. They should all be 9's, but we'll see if with the new Standards they don't all become 8's! Taking Bets!
YeeHaw!
Neil
Seems like last two weeks has been at a standstill for my subs. Oldest arrived over 14 months ago, still in grading. Finally got the lottery submission, and now they are in grading too. Dying to see how some breakouts do being re-graded.
Order # Submission # Arrived Entered Shipped Status Items Service
22634398 10820042 04/11/22 04/13/22 N/A See Details 20 Economy
22625377 10812302 04/04/22 04/06/22 N/A See Details 20 Economy
22342902 10656070 06/11/21 06/14/21 08/10/21
282416624010 Completed 1 CRC
22287311 10621401 03/18/21 05/03/21 N/A See Details 70 Deal
22271607 10584479 03/15/21 04/27/21 N/A See Details 22 Value Vintage (1971-)
22208341 10560564 02/26/21 03/31/21 05/11/21
9210890163776906336583 Completed 2 Regular
22230612 10524901 02/16/21 04/11/21 N/A See Details 44 Monthly Special 14
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
Afternoon,
Ask and you shall receive! Just Popped and pretty much how I thought it would go if not just a tad better. 7 out of 17 MINT 9's on the Topps McGwire, I guess is better than I was expecting. Overall the results are one notch above Garbage, but actually this will be good for the long term Mission.
Mission: At any time that I think about subbing cards after PSA is back to some sort of relevance, I'll just think of the last 3-4 subs from this time period, and that should Clearly dissuade me from that Path!
Neil
1 1 58224317 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire Card
2 1 58224318 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire Card
3 1 58224319 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire Card
4 1 58224320 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire Card
5 1 58224321 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire Card
6 1 58224322 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 548 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
7 1 58224323 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 548 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
8 1 58224324 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 548 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
9 1 58224325 NEAR MINT 7 1988 Donruss 40 Mark Grace Card
10 1 58224326 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Donruss 40 Mark Grace Card
11 1 58224327 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 616 Bill Ripken Black Box Over Error Card
12 1 58224328 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 196 Gary Sheffield Card
13 1 58224329 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 320 Barry Bonds Card
14 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
15 1 58224331 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
16 1 58224332 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
17 1 58224333 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
18 1 58224334 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
19 1 58224335 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
20 1 58224336 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
21 1 58224337 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
22 1 58224338 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
23 1 58224339 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
24 1 58224340 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
25 1 58224341 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
26 1 58224342 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
What does a PSA 8, 9, and 10 go for with the 87 McGwire?...I may have to sub a bunch when prices come back down.....I have 125 minty ones in my closet....Congrats Neil!
Not much, before the whole PSA IMO changing up the Grading Goal Posts, or new inexperienced Graders afraid to give out 9's and 10's, you could get a reasonable return on 9's and 10's (of course this was 14-15 months ago, not now!), but now, even when you get them, you can't give them away, the 8's go for like $5-$8 bucks.....MINT 9's like $10-$12, Not worth it! This was more of an experiment for myself after 25 years of doing this (Subbing), and with the new grading system it made my experiment moot! I still think the entire sub was MINT 9. WITHOUT EXCEPTION! Well maybe one EXCEPTION, Although I missed something on the one VG-EX 4 and as for the Min Size....heres another abbreviation for you...B. S. !
I have another 20-30 of these, but this told me what I need to know...Only cost me $364 for this lesson...wait it didn't really tell me Sheisa on a shingle!
Last Sub! LAST LAST SUB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YeeHaw!
Neil
Sorry to hear Neil! Now that I’m starting to get my grades back and have time to sort through them. I still can’t believe the inconsistencies in grades. My last 2 came back pretty close to expectations that I wrote down before I submitted the cards almost 14 months ago. The two before that averaged about 2 grades lower than the expectations that I wrote down with some 3 grades lower. I also had more damage to cards submitted than all my other submissions combined. I still have 5 subs to go including one with 185 cards.
In case anyone out there is awaiting tickets, my grades popped tonight and I’m very happy. I bought a lot of 5 Super Bowl tickets - 3 slabbed as 8s and a 9 with 2 raw. In hand the raw ones looked pretty damn good but I’m no ticket expert. Why wouldn’t they be graded unless there was something seriously wrong with them? Figured I’d need them slabbed for resale eventually anyway, so sent them in. Got an 8 on a 2002 gold (Brady’s first and SB MVP) and a 7 on a 2005 purple (his 3rd). I’m no Pats fan as you may guess from my avatar and nickname here, but I recognize the value his name brings. Got the grades I hoped even though I was expected much worse news - if they had initially been graded, the lot would have been way out of my price range. The risk paid off - definitely no complaints from me.
Jim
That's great to hear, as I just sent my first two ticket subs off last week. Thanks!
True, once the people who had no clue what they were doing stop submitting cards the gem rate will go up
Grades just popped. Very pleased.
Day 01 3.22 Picked for Econ$50 20-card submission
Day 01 3.22 USPS Priority Mailed 7-Cards
Day 03 3.24 Received / Arrived
Day 08 3.29 Order Prep / Research/ID
Day 15 4.06 Grading
Day 32 4.22 Assembly
Day 35 4.25 QA Check 1
Day 37 4.27 QA Check 2
Day 38 4.28 Shipping
1997 (26 year old) Modern Cards: Three 10's, Four 9's
Just an FYI... I sent in three signed baseballs (1 graded, 2 just authenticated), two of which were at the $15 quarterly special level. I mailed them on 4/19, received 4/21, entered 4/25, popped 4/27. That's EXCEPTIONALLY fast service, and even more surprising when two of them were at the $15 special level. All three passed, as they should've (Trout, Griffey, Balkovec).
20-card value modern
3/3/21 - Arrived
4/15/21 - Entered
11/19/21 - Grading
4/15/22 - Assembly
4/25/22 - QA1
4/26/22 - QA2...
Not new to card collecting but new to the grading game. Reading through this thread Im on the fence now if I should submit my high value nba cards 90s and some 80s to PSA at all. Sounds like the scale is all over the place w much less consistency then before and actually much harder grading then a couple years back. For $50 or $100 per card it seems like playing the lottery - which it should not be.
I've seen many more posting with positive results from the Economy submissions than with stuff coming out of the backlog. I've personally had 2 Economy submissions (a total of 10 cards) that were as I was expecting or better. I feel like this is safer if you have some higher value cards really worth submitting at $50 a pop. I don't know if PSA is giving these more attention or just has the more senior graders handling them. You also get them back in a very reasonable turnaround time.
My economy orders this year have been on point ... My first order from the baacklog has been in QA2 for an eternity ... I am hoping those are as expected as well.
First one hit just over a year old. Mostly cards for registry sets I have been building.
Mixed bag ... 1 upcharge and that is a first for me. Some unfortunate N6/N8s. I would have liked to see a few more 10s but overall pretty satisfied. A few misses, likely on my end, that dropped a couple of 4-6s.
If you've not submitted cards before, it is too expensive right now to submit. Instead you should at the very least post pictures to see if the more experienced submitters think that you can get the grades you'd need to make the cost worthwhile.
I heavily scrutinized all my picks for submission. Looked at them under light at all angles, corners/surface no visible flaws. Some older 80s early 90s NBA cards are off center some more then others, not sure how much they knock down for OC but rest of cards mint. I can honestly say what I want to send is all 9/10s (maybe 7-8 for OC older cards) if they are not Im really not sure what could be any higher grade!
Look at POP report for your cards in question, that should give you insight into how many 10s you can expect.
Buy some cheap 9s and 10s of cards from those sets to have them in hand to compare.
Post pictures here, for non biased opinions.
And finally, temper expectations of getting a lot of 10s from that era
My final value order popped last night. Now it's just economy subs in the works.
Is anybody getting poppage from the great backup period yet - i.e. Values logged in from mid-April forward? Anybody have a pop from the 60's special of that same timeframe? Thanks
Bosox1976
I had a Value-Modern entered 4/8/21 that popped last Wednesday.
I'm still waiting for my 60's special that is in grading.
ARRIVED ENTERED
04/05/21 05/05/21
Arrived Entered
03/04/21 04/12/21
Grades available today
I have several more in assembly from the same time frame and some still in grading
Still in grading.....first in, first out my aXX
22230612 10524901 02/16/21 04/11/21 N/A See Details 44 Monthly Special 14
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
How long were each of you in QA2? My order was entered 4/15/21 and I’m about to pass the one-week mark in QA2.
We need to have beneficiary forms with the subs. I believe there is an actual chance of celebrating 3 birthdays before poppage. Feb 21, 22 and 2023. Oh my. Thank goodness they're doing the ebay authentication now to keep them busy. OMG.
about 2 weeks
I feel like maybe 8 days.
My cards that I have been waiting on for 14 months are on a FedEx truck about 12 miles down the road. Hard to not be distracted by that. Hope that truck gets here soon.
Forget the FEDEX truck....you could have walked to Newport Beach by now.
Longest I had waited was 5 days but most were 1-2 days now I have an economy order that has been in QA2 for 6 days now. I went digging for an upcharge email thinking that must be why but I don't see anything.
They are now here. Probably my most anxiously awaited package ever. Been a rough 14 month wait but great to have them back. I know many like pics so here are my faves. For now, I will stay positive. Letdowns maybe another time. I did try to put them in order of how much I liked them.
nice larkins.. from a factory set or wax box ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
Nice cards!
Thanks. Larkins actually came from a vending box case that I still have not finished going through. Unfortunately also submitted Bo and McGwire but no gems there. Its funny the condition is pretty consistent for specific players from box to box. Dont think there is a single mint Bonds Canseco Mattingly Ripken after going through 15 or so boxes. But Larkin McGwire, Bo, Bobby Witt Mitch Williams 🤣, they usually look like they have a nice shot at mint or better. Bought the case from BBCE and for the price it was well worth it for the entertainment. Last I checked they still have one.
What are the odds that Montana, Marino and Elway got 9's while the other black refractors got 10s? Do those grades jive with what you are seeing?
I'm glad (:() to see I'm not the only one waiting on a Value submission from 2021. I entered 175 and all Topps from 1981.
They arrived on March 3rd, were entered on April 19th and are still in Grading. Maybe they'll be out by Memorial Day!?!
I've done better with Economy since they've reopened, but I noticed that each submission has taken 4 or 5 days longer than the previous submittals. The most recent took exactly 30 days. A couple months ago they were shipped after about 21 days.
Valid point on which refractors got the 9s. I do feel like the 9s of Elway and Marino and Montano look pretty solid. Its a tough one cause not clear how much space is supposed to be underneath the name. Think I have seen some variation there. Did just learn the Gus Frerotte was a POP 1.
Feel confident it could stay that because if we dont get to $12 again not sure anyone will submit a Gus again. I cant complain and say the 10 was not given because it is a more valuable card. I had some 1984 Nestle Hand Cuts and the ones that are submitted are all pretty much centered to PSA 10 specifications with sharp corners and edges and free of major print defects. So there they gave me a 10 on a Strawberry and a 9 on Kent Tekulve and Jack Clark. So it balances out. It works out for me they felt that was a 10. But with a lot of those hard for me to see the difference between the 9 and the 10. Even sometimes an 8 and a 10.
Found a few more I would add to the good pile.
Those 75’s all look better than the grades!
Bosox1976
Another shiny 1990's refractor for my Nomar collection.
Cool. Thanks. PC stuff for now so nice to know they look like nice examples in the current holders. The Lynn was in my Christmas stocking when I was maybe 12 or 13 so that one for certain stays with me as long as I'm around. Funny cause I think I like the Brett 6 better than one of the 7s.
Ask and ye shall receive, I guess. Thanks for the responses, gents.
Just moved into assembly tonight:
03/08/21 04/19/21 N/A See Details 27 Value Modern (1972- 2017)
Bosox1976
Nice work Mike. I am pulling for you. My cards are simply not moving. I have been stuck in grading for 9 months. I've stopped even caring.
03/04/21 05/03/21 59 Value Modern (1972- 2017)
Grades popped today. Assumed the worst based on stories others have shared recently...and got it. Managed to get an 8 on an Eric Dickerson rookie but every other pre-1987 card was a 7 or below. It's a damn miracle I got an 8 on my Jerry Rice rookie last spring. An expensive pile of coasters, paperweights and door stops.
20 card economy popped today after 7 days in QA2 (My longest stint in QA2 in over a year). 14/20 cards got 10's including a 1996 Bowmans Best Ray Lewis HOF RC I needed for my set. Bought it raw a month ago for $30 and predicted a 9 on the high side. Kind of nice being being into a card for $80 that would have cost me $700+. This sub a mixed bag of 'older' 1998-2021 stuff I grabbed from a local card shop. I did pretty well on it. Have another economy sub sitting in QA2 that arrived a week before this one. Only difference is the other one is all ultra modern (2020/21 stuff) and this one was mixed.
Ugh. Congratulations on the Dickerson. Sorry about the beatdown on the rest.
Bosox1976
Thanks. Trying not to be too pessimistic. The Dickerson was fair, as was a Randall Cunningham rookie (8), an 86 Steve Young rookie (7…good centering but a softened corner and a few print circles) and a 74 second-year Mike Schmidt (5…hoped for a 6 or 6.5 but oh well). Nothing high dollar but cards from my youth I wanted slabbed.
Thought I had good 8 or better potential with the 86 Kosar/Reed/Payton/Montana/Marino/Smith and couldn’t get anything above a 7. It’s fair to say I have a love/hate relationship with 86 Topps football. Love the cards but hate the grading disappointment!