North/South/Central American Coins Thursday, let's see them!

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  • bidask
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    @Euclid said:
    I'm a day late but I couldn't be happier with the grading results I got back today. The first coin I cracked out of an old slab that said VF 30 and the other two coins I purchased raw.

    Nice and crusty original.

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • TwoKopeiki
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    Controversial grade but definitely one of a kind coin. Congrats!

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  • Boosibri
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    @TwoKopeiki said:
    Controversial grade but definitely one of a kind coin. Congrats!

    All about the price you pay for it

    Latin American Collection

  • HoledandCreative
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    It's only money!

  • carabonnair
    carabonnair Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    One of those fantastic 1804 dollars!

    Gawain

    Pacific Northwest Numismatic Association
  • Abuelo
    Abuelo Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @pruebas I cannot understand why on Earth the put that legend. Makes 0 sense.

  • Euclid
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    @pruebas said:

    Interesting that it says "No numismatic value." Ha! If they only knew!

    That is truly hilarious :D

  • Abuelo
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    Once again @pruebas did not disappoint.

  • TwoKopeiki
    TwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That's an outstanding pattern @pruebas

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  • Weiss
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    edited February 10, 2022 9:24AM
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    All of you fancy guys with your fancy low population museum quality conditional rarities might not appreciate her, but... bite me, I like circulated coins :)

    Bought a pile of stuff from one of the local shops yesterday. They threw this piece on the counter and asked for my opinion. They know I like big Mexican silver, but this piece felt "off".
    Came in with several period piece that were good. It's got a wholesome color. But the sound was a little off (if you know the ring silver makes), and the texture was greasy. Erratic on the Sigma. Too smooth even given the strike weakness or even adjustment/damage on the cap:

    They pronounced it a fake. But It didn't seem like a modern flea market fake. So I suggested contemporary counterfeit and offered to buy it anyway if they priced it right--a nice early counterfeit every bit as interesting as a circulated 8 reale to me. To my surprise, the dealer threw it in for free.

    When I got home I noticed the dark spot at 1:00 cap side and figured it might be PVC. But a closer look with my loop showed what looked like a rim, or edges, around the spot. And that appeared to be my answer: She'd been lacquered.

    So a couple of hours in acetone and she seems to have been restored to her used, abused, but apparently authentic, 145-year old self. Thoughts?

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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  • JohnnyCache
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    @Weiss said:
    but... bite me, I like circulated coins :)

    LOL

    Erratic on the Sigma.

    appeared .... She'd been lacquered.

    Just Curious, does the Sigma like her any better now that she's had a bath?
    Either way, Free is always nice!

  • Weiss
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    @JohnnyCache said:

    Just Curious, does the Sigma like her any better now that she's had a bath?
    Either way, Free is always nice!

    Great question. The erratic reading was on their Sigma, not mine. But I just burned through that pile above on my Sigma, and each piece read somewhere within the 90% pre 1900 bracket...except for that obvious contemporary counterfeit far left in the above image, and this new piece. The fake doesn't even register, I believe it's silver washed copper. But this new piece reads just outside the brackets. Interestingly, I happened to have two later Peruvian sols (1923, 1930) in this same tube, and this new piece reads identically to their 50% silver, 40% copper, 10% silver alloy.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • BustDMs
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    One of my Newps this week.

    Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?



    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
  • BustDMs
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    Another new 8.

    Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?



    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
  • BustDMs
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    Another 8, photos bookending the others, a 4 and a 2.

    Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?



    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
  • TwoKopeiki
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    @Abuelo what's not to like?

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  • Abuelo
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    @TwoKopeiki said:
    @Abuelo what's not to like?

    What I paid for it? :D

  • pruebas
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    @Abuelo said:

    @TwoKopeiki said:
    @Abuelo what's not to like?

    What I paid for it? :D

    Five years from now, you will have forgotten that. But the nice coin will remain! 🥳

  • bidask
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    What are you doing with that 1884 65 pl ?

    You don’t collect that stuff

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • pruebas
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    edited February 17, 2022 9:08PM
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    @bidask said:
    What are you doing with that 1884 65 pl ?

    You don’t collect that stuff

    I have been buying PL coins for many years. Sold off maybe half of them last year. I kept my "PL type set."

    Most are in NGC holders, so I can't show them off.

  • Abuelo
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    @pruebas yes it is considered a medal nowadays. Gral Victoria was quite scary looking, so the engraver did a good job 😂

  • ELuis
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    edited February 18, 2022 6:13AM
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    ^ no one nowadays know his real name: José Miguel Ramón Adaucto Fernández Félix

  • BustDMs
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    Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?



    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
  • Que_sai_je
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  • pruebas
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    @Que_sai_je said:

    That's wandering pretty far away from coins, eh? Next they will be auctioning the sand that the coins were found laying in or some other such nonsense.

  • MrEureka
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    edited February 24, 2022 4:15PM
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    34.2 grams for that clump sounds impossibly light, doesn't it?

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • RSP
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    Yea it does, maybe that's why I can't see the coin anywhere!

  • TwoKopeiki
    TwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Shiny

    https://youtu.be/UHzY-40AVYA

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  • pruebas
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    @TwoKopeiki very flashy for a 53. Very nice coin!

    You are going to have to license the Musical Coins In Motion to the "other" auction company.

  • SimonW
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    @TwoKopeiki said:
    @pruebas thanks for sharing some of your beauties with us. Wonderful coins (and medals).

    @SimonW - great pillar 4R <3

    Here's one of my favorites. Only able to capture it accurately with video

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaGxmuyFEf4/?utm_medium=copy_link

    That's the stuff dreams are made of! Seriously nice!!!

    I'm BACK!!! Used to be Billet7 on the old forum.

  • inkdiver
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    Colombia 2000 Pesos 300th Anniversary of Medellin Proof from 1975; 8.6 grams, 90% gold. To the best of my knowledge, Colombia's only square coin, along with the 1000 Pesos version (smaller size of this one).

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