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  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just had one of my crossover orders move from R&ID to grading. It was shipped end of March and logged end of April. How long have crossovers been taking lately? It's a 64 card order of pre-1972. Mostly SGC but a handful of ISA and a GAI. It will be interesting to see how the ISA's do. Some mixed feedback on here about them but the cards look strong. Nothing too crazy. Mostly commons though some are low pop.

  • I find it frustrating that I have thousands of dollars worth of submissions there that are already over or will be well over a year at PSA and they are already opening up lower tier submissions. That coupled with grading inconsistencies has made me dabble in other grading companies. PSA is king but it may not be for much longer. Seem to be running off many loyal customers.

    while I agree the backlog sucks and technically Regular is lower tier, at $100 a card I don't think it will make much difference when you get your cards back. Their goal is to keep x% devoted to higher level submissions, let's not forget they have expenses to cover as well which a mix of 100% lower dollar subs probably doesn't support.

    I do have a couple in the same boat as you and at this point I get them when I get them. I used to get frustrated, now I think of it as youthful anticipation that I will get some new cards that I have long since forgot what they where :smiley:

  • @maddux69 said:
    As of yesterday, I have a sub that has been in Long Beach for 14 months! :o

    Arrived 11/9/20
    Entered 1/29/21
    Still in the grading phase

    That's bonkers. What kind of sub is this?

  • Jayman1982Jayman1982 Posts: 469 ✭✭✭

    @maddux69 said:
    As of yesterday, I have a sub that has been in Long Beach for 14 months! :o

    Arrived 11/9/20
    Entered 1/29/21
    Still in the grading phase

    That's officially older than any posted CTD on their website, worthy of a phone call and an explanation of how your order is prior to that date!

  • TerwinTerwin Posts: 70 ✭✭

    Yeah, I've got a review order that's been there since 11/20/20, still in grading. A review order should need no research as they're already in PSA holders. No problem once I get all those bumps. haha!

  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For the people that have waited a year I find it mind blowing that PSA isn't offering some sort of discount/vouchers for future use.

    Successful coin BST transactions with Gerard and segoja.

    Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
  • maddux69maddux69 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MarshallFaulk28 said:
    That's bonkers. What kind of sub is this?

    @Jayman1982 said:
    That's officially older than any posted CTD on their website, worthy of a phone call and an explanation of how your order is prior to that date!

    It's a grade add on for PSA/DNA items. While not part of the CTD process, still hard to believe it would be last on the list.

  • CentauriCentauri Posts: 129 ✭✭✭

    I had something crazy happen over the weekend, and now I am jonesing for my order to come back.

    I sent in the ungraded cards from a rainbow of 2016 Topps Lindor. I put it together mainly in 2016/17, with a dozen PSA 10’s already. The rest I sent in as a bulk order. However, there was 1 card I could never find and I had essentially given up on it - until this weekend. I picked up the /10 clear acetate to finish the flagship/chrome/side set rainbow - 40ish cards in all. Now that I have the missing piece after 5 years of looking, I want to get the rest of the band together!

    Over a year at PSA, still in “grading”

  • 76collector76collector Posts: 986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yikes, that Ichiro 6 looks like an 8 to me, but what do I know. And don't get me started on that Clemente 3. GTFOH, no way is that card a 3. What are we paying PSA for if they deem that a 3...

    I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid.
    Collecting:
    post world war II HOF rookie
    76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
    Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
    successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
  • scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭

    Regular 34 Card Sub
    Mailed - 12/30
    Rec'd - 12/31
    Logged/Research & ID - 1/6
    Grading - 1/10

    2.5 is pretty much my speed.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭

    Regular 3 Card Sub:
    Mailed - 12/30
    Rec'd - 1/5
    Logged/Research & ID - 1/8
    Grading - 1/11

    Moving right along...

  • scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭

    @jeffcbay said:
    Regular 3 Card Sub:
    Mailed - 12/30
    Rec'd - 1/5
    Logged/Research & ID - 1/8
    Grading - 1/11

    Moving right along...

    Looks like you & I are on the same track. Hope we end up at the finish line speedily!

    2.5 is pretty much my speed.
  • scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭

    Regular 34 Card Sub
    Mailed - 12/30
    Rec'd - 12/31
    Logged/Research & ID - 1/6
    Grading - 1/10
    Assembly - 1/12

    @jeffcbay Maybe yours will get there tomorrow?

    2.5 is pretty much my speed.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You mean these were shipped in December, 2020, right? :)

  • ejguruejguru Posts: 618 ✭✭✭

    Good luck to both of you (and all those) who go $100 per card. If they could make sure it doesn't end up in the hands of a rookie grader, maybe I'd try...

    "...life is but a dream."

    Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭

    The three cards I sent in are literally up against the max value of $1499... if any of them GEM I'll end up owing an upcharge. That would be a GREAT problem to have.

  • threeofsixthreeofsix Posts: 641 ✭✭✭✭

    @jeffcbay said:
    The three cards I sent in are literally up against the max value of $1499... if any of them GEM I'll end up owing an upcharge. That would be a GREAT problem to have.

    Good Luck with your 3 problems!

    You should know soon….

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one.
    Live long, and prosper.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭

    Speaking of which!

    Regular 3 Card Sub:
    Mailed - 12/30
    Rec'd - 1/5
    Logged/Research & ID - 1/8
    Grading - 1/11
    Assembly - 1/13

    Since one of them is a 2000 Ultra Tom Brady rookie, I'll go ahead and quote him: LET'S GO!!

  • threeofsixthreeofsix Posts: 641 ✭✭✭✭

    And with the playoffs here…you and I are both happy to have a Brady to root for! I agree…Let’s Goooooooo!

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one.
    Live long, and prosper.
  • scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭

    @jeffcbay said:
    Speaking of which!

    Regular 3 Card Sub:
    Mailed - 12/30
    Rec'd - 1/5
    Logged/Research & ID - 1/8
    Grading - 1/11
    Assembly - 1/13

    Since one of them is a 2000 Ultra Tom Brady rookie, I'll go ahead and quote him: LET'S GO!!

    One of mine is a Brady rookie too... but it's the Skybox one with Gio Carmazzi on it. I guess it was just in a box of cards I got somewhere, as I don't buy football cards. Fun little find, even though it's one of his least desirable RCs.

    2.5 is pretty much my speed.
  • 76collector76collector Posts: 986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you could take a moment to wish my cards a happy 1 year anniversary arriving at PSA I'd really appreciate it. I assume they are not lonely with plenty of brothers to keep them company in the warehouse, but they have been missing me, and I know they would appreciate the sentiment, considering they are still in grading and show no sign of getting to come home any time soon.

    22171978 10465453 01/13/21 03/12/21 N/A See Details 23 Value Ultra Modern (2018+)
    22172046 10465370 01/13/21 03/12/21 N/A See Details 32 Value Modern (1972- 2017)

    Jeff

    I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid.
    Collecting:
    post world war II HOF rookie
    76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
    Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
    successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
  • @76collector said:
    If you could take a moment to wish my cards a happy 1 year anniversary arriving at PSA I'd really appreciate it. I assume they are not lonely with plenty of brothers to keep them company in the warehouse, but they have been missing me, and I know they would appreciate the sentiment, considering they are still in grading and show no sign of getting to come home any time soon.

    22171978 10465453 01/13/21 03/12/21 N/A See Details 23 Value Ultra Modern (2018+)
    22172046 10465370 01/13/21 03/12/21 N/A See Details 32 Value Modern (1972- 2017)

    Jeff

    Happy Birthday to your cards! 🎂 They grow up so fast. You’ll barely recognize them when you finally see them again.

  • CentauriCentauri Posts: 129 ✭✭✭

    @76collector said:
    If you could take a moment to wish my cards a happy 1 year anniversary arriving at PSA I'd really appreciate it. I assume they are not lonely with plenty of brothers to keep them company in the warehouse, but they have been missing me, and I know they would appreciate the sentiment, considering they are still in grading and show no sign of getting to come home any time soon.

    22171978 10465453 01/13/21 03/12/21 N/A See Details 23 Value Ultra Modern (2018+)
    22172046 10465370 01/13/21 03/12/21 N/A See Details 32 Value Modern (1972- 2017)

    Jeff

    I picture something like the Indiana Jones warehouse - piles and piles of boxes gathering dust. Happy anniversary!

  • scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭
    edited January 14, 2022 12:56PM

    Regular 34 Card Sub
    Mailed - 12/30
    Rec'd - 12/31
    Logged/Research & ID - 1/6
    Grading - 1/10
    Assembly - 1/12
    QA1 - 1/13
    QA2 - 1/14

    Also, I've been able to sneak a peek at a few of the grades, and while the HOF RC I was hoping for a 10 on didn't quite make it, there have been a few pleasant surprises. And one that is a super low pop 10 that could be pretty big!

    2.5 is pretty much my speed.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭

    Regular 3 Card Sub:
    Mailed - 12/30
    Rec'd - 1/5
    Logged/Research & ID - 1/8
    Grading - 1/11
    Assembly - 1/13
    QA1 - 1/14
    QA2 - 1/15

    Truckin' right along!

  • FrozencaribouFrozencaribou Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ve enjoyed using the express option for a few of my cards but I’m so fed up with my outstanding value submissions not moving. One order has been in the grading phase since July.

    My 4/15 order is still in the research phase. If it takes 7-9 months in the grading phase I’m looking at a 2023 return for that order.

    I saw the New Years resolutions PSA posted and cannot imagine Psa can clear the backlog if they still have millions of cards to grade and are opening up new levels at the same time.

    -Nathanael

  • shawthershawther Posts: 284 ✭✭✭

    I am still waiting on a quarterly special that was sent 12/2/20. Still sitting in the grading phase. I have additional 8 orders with around 600 cards that were all entered throughout the month of August after spending about 8 weeks in limbo. Most of those are in the grading phase but as the post above stated, it could still be several months to a year before I get all of those back. I honestly won’t care as long as the grades come back with decent results.

  • CentauriCentauri Posts: 129 ✭✭✭

    So, how much do ya’ll believe the reported CTD numbers? I have a group that was officially entered on 3/15 last year (mailed 2 months earlier). Value Modern. PSA reports a CTD of 2/1, with 96% of February complete. If those numbers are accurate, I should be looking at something in the range of 2 months more, no?

  • I have 2 orders from early March in Assembly, one has been stuck there for almost a month. A 125 card value sub from Apr. 2 also just hit Assembly today.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    supply chain issues.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭
    edited January 19, 2022 9:57PM

    Regular 34 Card Sub
    Mailed - 12/30
    Rec'd - 12/31
    Logged/Research & ID - 1/6
    Grading - 1/10
    Assembly - 1/12
    QA1 - 1/13
    QA2 - 1/14
    Grades Popped - 1/19

    Overall, I had about a 40% gem rate. I expected 7 gems and got 13, including a couple of low pops and a pop 1. One card was N6 Min Size, which was surprising (a modern card) but results were very good other than that. Only 3 cards graded lower than predicted, half I predicted correctly, and the rest were higher. No half grades, all whole number grades. Very pleased, this was the best sub I've had in awhile.

    @jeffcbay get ready!

    2.5 is pretty much my speed.
  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The last of two of my six subs currently there hit grading this morning. The previous four hit grading on 10/14/21 where they still sit. So, there are no delusions that I am anywhere close to getting any of these cards back.

    Looking for FB HOF Rookies
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nam812 said:

    @nam812 said:
    Here's where I'm at

    Value ultra modern
    Received 12/13/20
    Entered 02/17/21
    Grading 08/26/21
    Assembly - Not yet

    Value modern
    Received 12/13/20
    Entered 02/23/21
    Grading 08/31/21
    Assembly - Not yet

    Just an update. Both are still in grading (13+ weeks now). :'(

    An update to the update, Both are still in grading (21+ weeks now). :'(:'(

  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rexvos said:
    The last of two of my six subs currently there hit grading this morning. The previous four hit grading on 10/14/21 where they still sit. So, there are no delusions that I am anywhere close to getting any of these cards back.

    Hitting the grading room is like standing in line at a new ride at Disneyworld at the point where you can now see the ride but you still have hundreds of people standing in line in front of you.

  • envoy982envoy982 Posts: 388 ✭✭✭

    My 4 subs arrived in Feb '21, entered Apr '21, Grading late-Oct & early Nov '21. No movement on any of them but I suspect based on the CTD that maybe I will see something in the next 2 months. I can't wait to get back my Gardner Minshew cards :D

  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nam812 said:

    Just an update. Both are still in grading (13+ weeks now). :'(

    An update to the update, Both are still in grading (21+ weeks now). :'(:'(

    Ouch - that stinks.

    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • RoflesRofles Posts: 753 ✭✭✭✭✭

    7 card express
    Rec’d and R&ID 1/18
    Grading 1/19

  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well whadaya know, I spoke too soon. One of my two subs is alive.

    Value ultra modern
    Received 12/13/20
    Entered 02/17/21
    Grading 08/26/21
    Assembly - 1/20/22

  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭

    Regular 3 Card Sub:
    Mailed - 12/30
    Rec'd - 1/5
    Logged/Research & ID - 1/8
    Grading - 1/11
    Assembly - 1/13
    QA1 - 1/14
    QA2 - 1/15
    Poppage - 1/20

    Grades popped at 9:30pm Pacific Time, they must be working shifts over at PSA.

    Kinda bummed about the Brady, I though it had a real shot at a 10, I must have missed something. The Roethlisberger is right where I thought it would be, and I assumed the Rodgers would be an 8 but was hoping for better. Still very satisfied with the results. Pretty fast turnaround considering they said it could take 90 days.

  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,403 ✭✭✭✭

    @nam812 said:
    Well whadaya know, I spoke too soon. One of my two subs is alive.

    Value ultra modern
    Received 12/13/20
    Entered 02/17/21
    Grading 08/26/21
    Assembly - 1/20/22

    Crazy your sub has spanned 3 calendar years. I’m assuming you’ll get them back on ‘22. If not, god help us all

    Collecting
    HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
  • @Centauri said:
    So, how much do ya’ll believe the reported CTD numbers? I have a group that was officially entered on 3/15 last year (mailed 2 months earlier). Value Modern. PSA reports a CTD of 2/1, with 96% of February complete. If those numbers are accurate, I should be looking at something in the range of 2 months more, no?

    if it was entered on 3/15 and they are essentially done with February Value orders, seems like you should expect something sooner than 2 months but only the genie actually knows ;)

  • envoy982envoy982 Posts: 388 ✭✭✭

    For everything I've gotten back and what I've been tracking for the last 9+ months, CTD has been behind my actual results. That is to say, CTD shows Feb 1 but we are seeing stuff pop that was entered Mar 1 for example. I agree with beachbum, if your entered date is 3/15 I would expect to see something before your 1 year anniversary. I think the stuff with an entered date starting mid-late April is going to be where we see an even greater slowdown as I believe there was a major influx of items sent once there was rumors of the shutdown.

  • scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭

    I guess I didn't post my grades before. Here they are, with anything interested noted.
    1 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT
    2 1 63938824 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2020 Topps Chrome Formula 1 1 Lewis Hamilton Refractor Card
    3 1 63938825 MINT 9 2001 Topps Traded T247 Albert Pujols Only real disappointment, hoped for a 10
    4 1 63938826 MINT 9 2020 Topps Chrome Formula 1 1 Lewis Hamilton Card
    5 1 63938827 GEM MINT 10 2020 Topps Now Formula 1 23 Max Verstappen Card
    6 1 63938828 MINT 9 2016 Bowman Prospects BCP17 Fernando Tatis Jr. Chrome Card
    7 1 63938829 EXCELLENT 5 1955 Topps 50 Jackie Robinson Expected a 4, very happy
    8 1 63938830 GEM MINT 10 2017 Bowman Mega Box Chrome Prospects BCP31 Shohei Otani Card
    9 1 63938831 GEM MINT 10 2017 Bowman Mega Box Chrome Prospects BCP31 Shohei Otani Card
    10 1 63938832 MINT 9 2018 Topps Heritage Real One Autographs RA Ronald Acuna Card
    11 1 63938833 GEM MINT 10 2020 Panini Prizm WNBA Signatures Sgsbd Sue Bird Green Ice Pop 1
    12 1 63938834 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2000 Skybox Dominion 234 Tom Brady/Giovanni Carmazzi Card
    13 1 63938835 GEM MINT 10 1990 Fleer 26 Michael Jordan Card
    14 1 63938836 GEM MINT 10 2018 Topps Chrome 150 Shohei Ohtani Pitching-Sepia Refractor Card
    15 1 63938837 MINT 9 2018 Topps 700 Shohei Ohtani Pitching-Gold Card
    16 1 63938838 GEM MINT 10 2014 Bowman Prospects BP73 Jacob DeGrom Orange Pop 3, Big Card
    17 1 63938839 MINT 9 2019 Topps Chrome Rookie Autographs RA-Vgj Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Card
    18 1 63938840 GEM MINT 10 2021 Topps Triple Threads Rookie Autographs Racji Jonathan India Card
    19 1 63938841 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2001 Fleer WNBA 196 Lauren Jackson Card
    20 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card
    21 1 63938843 NEAR MINT 7 2006 WNBA Rookies RC1 Seimone Augustus Card
    22 1 63938844 MINT 9 2006 WNBA Rookies RC6 Candice Dupree Card
    23 1 63938845 NEAR MINT 7 2006 WNBA Rookies RC2 Cappie Pondexter Card
    24 1 63938846 MINT 9 2016 Rittenhouse WNBA 105 Kahleah Copper Card
    25 1 63938847 MINT 9 2020 Panini Prizm WNBA Signatures Sgsio Sabrina Ionescu Card
    26 1 63938848 GEM MINT 10 2010 Rittenhouse WNBA Rookies R1 Tina Charles Psyched!
    27 1 63938849 MINT 9 2010 Rittenhouse WNBA Rookies R1 Tina Charles Card
    28 1 63938850 GEM MINT 10 2018 Rittenhouse WNBA 48 A'JA Wilson Card
    29 1 63938851 GEM MINT 10 2011 Rittenhouse WNBA Rookies R3 Courtney Vandersloot Double Psyched!
    30 1 63938852 MINT 9 2011 Rittenhouse WNBA Rookies R3 Courtney Vandersloot Card
    31 1 63938853 GEM MINT 10 2011 Rittenhouse WNBA Rookies R2 Elizabeth Cambage Card
    32 1 63938854 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2008 Rittenhouse WNBA Autograph Candace Parker Card
    33 1 63938855 MINT 9 2011 Rittenhouse Archives WNBA Autographs Maya Moore Card
    34 1 63938856 GEM MINT 10 2011 Rittenhouse Archives WNBA Autographs Courtney Vandersloot Card

    2.5 is pretty much my speed.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nam812 said:
    Well whadaya know, I spoke too soon. One of my two subs is alive.

    Value ultra modern
    Received 12/13/20
    Entered 02/17/21
    Grading 08/26/21
    Assembly - 1/20/22
    QA1 - 1/21/22
    QA2 -
    Shipped -

    Had to add some new categories to my date list above since I moved into QA1 today. What stage are the grades viewable? I ask that because I'm going to wait until they arrive to see the grades in person. They've been gone 13 months, what's a little bit more. :D

  • threeofsixthreeofsix Posts: 641 ✭✭✭✭

    Once it hits shipped…the grades become viewable.

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one.
    Live long, and prosper.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 22, 2022 5:34PM

    Value ultra modern
    Received 12/13/20
    Entered 02/17/21
    Grading 08/26/21
    Assembly - 1/20/22
    QA1 - 1/21/22
    QA2 - 1/22/22
    Shipped -

    Another day another move.

    Edited to add: Hopefully it pops Monday and I can have it in hand by like Thursday since I have some sweet Joe Burrow cards in there, and he just made it to the AFC championship game.

  • RoflesRofles Posts: 753 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rofles said:
    7 card express
    Rec’d and R&ID 1/18
    Grading 1/19

    Assembly 1/24

  • envoy982envoy982 Posts: 388 ✭✭✭

    Did anyone get in on an economy allocation today? I managed to get one this time around so packed up 5 cards that I will ship out tomorrow. It says 90 day turnaround, which for $50 is obscene but these are 5 cards I don't need to see for 90 days so I'll give it a shot. Not sure if I can get another allocation on Thursday without these being received by PSA or not but I'll try.

  • @envoy982 said:
    Did anyone get in on an economy allocation today? I managed to get one this time around so packed up 5 cards that I will ship out tomorrow. It says 90 day turnaround, which for $50 is obscene but these are 5 cards I don't need to see for 90 days so I'll give it a shot. Not sure if I can get another allocation on Thursday without these being received by PSA or not but I'll try.

    I tried, but after sitting in the waiting room for an hour, it dropped me about 2800 in line. I think it decreased to about 1000 before it said it was now full.

    I did get in on the first one in December, and my cards are still sitting in Research and ID since January 5. I’m still a little skeptical they will hit the 90 day turnaround, but we’ll see.

    Also, $50 is obscene, but at least I got dual grading for all mine included before they announced they are charging extra for that.

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