Just jumped from Assembly to QA 1. (Value Vintage, 1971 - )
What is the prevailing thought about jumping to QA 2 then Shipping? A day, A week or A month?
A long awaited Christmas present or Happy New Year?
Steve Saldutti sjjs28@comcast.net Collector of Baseball Hall of Famer's and Stars, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game and 1969 Topps Decals Registered Sets: 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
@Cakes said:
Reggie, I wish your Griffey cards had graded better.
What does the complete set part mean? 39 1 62009481 GEM MINT 10 2020 Topps Complete Set 392 Luis Robert Chrome Card
I have a love/hate relationship with those grades. Obviously, I wish all my cards got a 10, but that would actually be a very bad thing for my collection since it would mean PSA is giving turd cards 10s they don't deserve. Two years ago, those cards would have gotten better grades. I'm happy to see the new stricter standards.
The "complete set" part of the Robert is a title any non-regular base card gets that comes in a Topps Factory set. Different factory sets have different "bonuses" inside them. One of the annual retail versions includes one of five Chrome photo variations for five rookies that they choose. This is the Chrome photo variation for Robert.
@sjjs28 said:
Just jumped from Assembly to QA 1. (Value Vintage, 1971 - )
What is the prevailing thought about jumping to QA 2 then Shipping? A day, A week or A month?
A long awaited Christmas present or Happy New Year?
Surprise! Just clicked over to QA 2... (Two days in QA 1)
Maybe this WILL be a long awaited Christmas present!
Steve Saldutti sjjs28@comcast.net Collector of Baseball Hall of Famer's and Stars, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game and 1969 Topps Decals Registered Sets: 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
Value ultra modern
Received 12/13/20
Entered 02/17/21
Grading 08/26/21
Assembly - Not yet
Value modern
Received 12/13/20
Entered 02/23/21
Grading 08/31/21
Assembly - Not yet
First in first out huh? Yeah right. Both still in grading after about 16 weeks of moving to the grading phase.
I feel your pain. Truly, PSA has lost my submission business. I will purchase PSA cards for sure as I know they are the most respected CGC, but will no longer waste my time submitting. Too many issues, constantly changing flips, too long, inconsistent grading, woeful customer service, and the whole Nat Turner takeover has soured me. I mean, really?, Kevin Durant is a major investor and PSA puts him on the cover of SMR? Talk about conflict of interest.
Value ultra modern
Received 12/13/20
Entered 02/17/21
Grading 08/26/21
Assembly - Not yet
Value modern
Received 12/13/20
Entered 02/23/21
Grading 08/31/21
Assembly - Not yet
First in first out huh? Yeah right. Both still in grading after about 16 weeks of moving to the grading phase.
Talk about first in first out…I had a sub leapfrog one of my others. I submitted them in the same box and they were sequentially numbered. They were entered on the same day and hit grading the same day then assembly on the same day. Sub 1 hit QA1 on Sunday and is still in QA1. Sub 2 didn’t hit QA1 until yesterday and is already in QA2 and the review list has disappeared so I expect it to pop today. These subs have the same amount of cards and are the same service level. How did sub 2 fall 4 days behind and then leapfrog to the finish line in 1 day???
I don’t see the method to the madness. Oh well at least they are both close to complete!
Very nice hit on the 73 Clemente Mike, and after all these years of knowing you and your eye for grading, I can see that lots of those cards are graded incorrectly.
Mike, nice hits on the Clemente and '78 Palmer. With the '76's, some graders consider cards with the green strip at the edge on the reverse as a 'miscut' while other graders will holder them. If that was their issue, I'd try resubmitting them someday.
@Bosox1976 said:
Bah. Mixed bag. At least 35-40 “No Way” grades here. Way too many not graded too. But some decent ones. Ah well.
TOTAL ITEMS
135
DATE RECEIVED
3/5/2021
DATE SHIPPED
N/A
1
1
56487681
MINT 9
1973 Topps 175 Frank Robinson
Card
2
1
56487682
NEAR MINT 7
1973 Topps 174 Rich Gossage
Card
3
1
56487683
MINT 9
1973 Topps 50 Roberto Clemente
Card
4
1
56487684
VERY GOOD 3
1973 Topps 50 Roberto Clemente
Card
5
1
56487685
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1974 Topps 207 Strikeout Leaders N.Ryan/T.Seaver
Card
6
1
56487686
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1974 Topps 350 Bob Gibson
Card
7
1
56487687
EXCELLENT 5
1974 Topps 473 World Series Game 2
Card
8
1
56487688
NEAR MINT 7
1976 Topps 600 Tom Seaver
Card
9
1
56487689
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1976 Topps 19 George Brett
Card
10
1
56487690
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1976 Topps 98 Dennis Eckersley
Card
11
1
56487691
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1976 Topps 160 Dave Winfield
Card
12
1
N8: MISCUT
1976 Topps 240 Pete Rose
Card
13
1
N8: MISCUT
1976 Topps 300 Johnny Bench
Card
14
1
N8: MISCUT
1976 Topps 330 Nolan Ryan
Card
15
1
56487695
MINT 9
1976 Topps 316 Robin Yount
Card
16
1
56487696
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1976 Topps 347 Ted Williams All Time All-Star
Card
17
1
56487697
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1976 Topps 420 Joe Morgan
Card
18
1
56487698
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1976 Topps 480 Mike Schmidt
Card
19
1
56487699
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1976 Topps 500 Reggie Jackson
Card
20
1
56487700
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1976 Topps 550 Hank Aaron
Card
21
1
56487701
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1976 Topps 592 Rookie Infielders
Card
22
1
56487702
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1976 Topps 600 Tom Seaver
Card
23
1
56487703
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1976 Topps 140 Vida Blue
Card
24
1
56487704
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1976 Topps 150 Steve Garvey
Card
25
1
56487705
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1976 Topps 340 Jim Rice
Card
26
1
56487706
NEAR MINT 7
1976 Topps 373 Johnny Briggs
Card
27
1
56487707
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1977 Topps 150 Tom Seaver
Card
28
1
56487708
NEAR MINT 7
1977 Topps 295 Gary Carter
Card
29
1
56487709
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1977 Topps 140 Mike Schmidt
Card
30
1
56487710
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1977 Topps 144 Bruce Sutter
Card
31
1
56487711
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1977 Topps 450 Pete Rose
Card
32
1
56487712
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1978 Topps 530 Dave Winfield
Card
33
1
56487713
NEAR MINT 7
1978 Topps 36 Eddie Murray
Card
34
1
56487714
NEAR MINT 7
1978 Topps 700 Johnny Bench
Card
35
1
56487715
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1978 Topps 380 Ted Simmons
Card
36
1
56487716
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1978 Topps 135 Ron Guidry
Card
37
1
56487717
MINT 9
1978 Topps 40 Carl Yastrzemski
Card
38
1
56487718
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1978 Topps 360 Mike Schmidt
Card
39
1
56487719
MINT 9
1978 Topps 704 Rookie 2nd Basemen
Card
40
1
56487720
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1978 Topps 36 Eddie Murray
Card
41
1
56487721
MINT 9
1978 Topps 60 Thurman Munson
Card
42
1
56487722
GEM MINT 10
1978 Topps 160 Jim Palmer
Card
43
1
56487723
EXCELLENT 5
1978 Topps 270 Carlton Fisk
Card
44
1
56487724
NEAR MINT 7
1978 Topps 707 Rookie Shortstops
Card
45
1
56487725
EXCELLENT 5
1978 Topps 360 Mike Schmidt
Card
46
1
56487726
NEAR MINT 7
1978 Topps 36 Eddie Murray
Card
47
1
56487727
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1978 Topps 707 Rookie Shortstops
Card
48
1
56487728
MINT 9
1978 Topps 6 Nolan Ryan
Card
49
1
56487729
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1978 Topps 34 Willie McCovey
Card
50
1
56487730
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1978 Topps 60 Thurman Munson
Card
51
1
56487731
MINT 9
1978 Topps 170 Lou Brock
Card
52
1
56487732
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1978 Topps 300 Joe Morgan
Card
53
1
56487733
NEAR MINT 7
1978 Topps 360 Mike Schmidt
Card
54
1
56487734
MINT 9
1978 Topps 450 Tom Seaver
Card
55
1
56487735
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1979 Topps 412 All-Time RBI Ldrs. H.Wilson/H.Aaron
Card
56
1
56487736
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1979 Topps 116 Ozzie Smith
Card
57
1
56487737
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1979 Topps 95 Robin Yount
Card
58
1
56487738
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1979 Topps 115 Nolan Ryan
Card
59
1
56487739
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1979 Topps 610 Mike Schmidt
Card
60
1
56487740
MINT 9
1982 Topps 21 Orioles Future Stars Bonner/Ripken/Schneider
Card
61
1
56487741
MINT 9
1983 Topps Traded 108T Darryl Strawberry
Card
62
1
56487742
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1984 Topps Traded 103T Pete Rose
Card
63
1
56487743
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1984 Topps Traded 42T Dwight Gooden
Card
64
1
56487744
MINT 9
1984 Topps 182 Darryl Strawberry
Card
65
1
56487745
VERY GOOD 3
1984 Topps 8 Don Mattingly
Card
66
1
56487746
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1985 Topps 536 Kirby Puckett
Card
67
1
56487747
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1985 Topps 401 Mark McGwire 1984 USA Baseball Team
Card
68
1
56487748
GEM MINT 10
1985 Topps 30 Cal Ripken Jr.
Card
69
1
56487749
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1985 Topps 401 Mark McGwire 1984 USA Baseball Team
Card
70
1
56487750
MINT 9
1985 Topps 200 Reggie Jackson
Card
71
1
56487751
MINT 9
1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate
Card
72
1
56487752
GEM MINT 10
1985 Fleer 286 Kirby Puckett
Card
73
1
56487753
MINT 9
1986 Topps Traded 11T Barry Bonds
Card
74
1
56487754
MINT 9
1986 Topps Traded 20T Jose Canseco
Card
75
1
56487755
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1986 Donruss 39 Jose Canseco
Card
76
1
56487756
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1986 Donruss 28 Fred McGriff
Card
77
1
56487757
MINT 9
1986 Fleer 649 Major League Pros. E.Plunk/J.Canseco
Card
78
1
56487758
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1986 Fleer 653 Major League Pros. C.Fielder/C.Snyder
Card
79
1
56487759
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1987 Topps 757 Nolan Ryan
Card
80
1
56487760
MINT 9
1987 Topps All-Star Glossy Set of 60 30 Barry Bonds
Card
81
1
56487761
GEM MINT 10
1987 Fleer 604 Barry Bonds
Card
82
1
56487762
GEM MINT 10
1987 Fleer Update U-24 Andre Dawson
Card
83
1
56487763
GEM MINT 10
1987 Fleer Update U-30 Dennis Eckersley
Card
84
1
56487764
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1987 Fleer Update U-31 Cecil Fielder
Card
85
1
56487765
GEM MINT 10
1987 Fleer Update U-68 Greg Maddux
Card
86
1
56487766
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1987 Fleer Update U-68 Greg Maddux
Card
87
1
56487767
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1987 Fleer Update U-68 Greg Maddux
Card
88
1
56487768
GEM MINT 10
1987 Fleer Update U-68 Greg Maddux
Card
89
1
56487769
MINT 9
1987 Fleer Update U-68 Greg Maddux
Card
90
1
56487770
MINT 9
1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire
Card
91
1
56487771
GEM MINT 10
1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire
Card
92
1
56487772
MINT 9
1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire
Card
93
1
56487773
MINT 9
1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire
Card
94
1
56487774
MINT 9
1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire
Card
95
1
56487775
MINT 9
1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire
Card
96
1
56487776
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire
Card
97
1
56487777
GEM MINT 10
1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire
Card
98
1
56487778
MINT 9
1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire
Card
99
1
56487779
MINT 9
1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire
Card
100
1
56487780
MINT 9
1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire
Card
101
1
56487781
MINT 9
1988 Topps 779 Tom Glavine
Card
102
1
56487782
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1988 Score 638 Tom Glavine
Card
103
1
56487783
NEAR MINT 7
1988 Fleer 539 Tom Glavine
Card
104
1
56487784
MINT 9
1988 Fleer 423 Greg Maddux
Card
105
1
56487785
GEM MINT 10
1989 Upper Deck 25 Randy Johnson Star Rookie
Card
106
1
56487786
MINT 9
1989 Fleer 616 Bill Ripken FF Error
Card
107
1
56487787
GEM MINT 10
1989 Fleer 616 Bill Ripken Black Box Over Error
Card
108
1
56487788
MINT 9
1989 Fleer Update U-59 Randy Johnson
Card
109
1
56487789
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1989 Fleer 381 Randy Johnson Ad Partially Obscured
Card
110
1
56487790
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1989 Fleer 548 Ken Griffey Jr.
Card
111
1
56487791
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1989 Score 645 Randy Johnson
Card
112
1
56487792
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1989 Score 637 Edgar Martinez
Card
113
1
56487793
MINT 9
1989 Donruss Rookies 43 Randy Johnson
Card
114
1
56487794
EXCELLENT 5
1989 Donruss Rookies 3 Ken Griffey Jr.
Card
115
1
56487795
MINT 9
1989 Score Traded 100T Ken Griffey Jr.
Card
116
1
56487796
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1989 Donruss 33 Ken Griffey Jr.
Card
117
1
56487797
MINT 9
1989 Topps Traded 41T Ken Griffey Jr.
Card
118
1
56487798
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1989 Topps Traded 41T Ken Griffey Jr.
Card
119
1
56487799
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
2001 Topps Limited Edition 726 Ichiro Suzuki
Card
120
1
56487800
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
2001 Topps Limited Edition 726 Ichiro Suzuki
Card
121
1
56487801
EXCELLENT 5
2001 Topps Limited Edition 726 Ichiro Suzuki
Card
122
1
56487802
EXCELLENT 5
2001 Topps Limited Edition 726 Ichiro Suzuki
Card
123
1
56487803
NEAR MINT 7
1975 Topps 35 Ken Dryden
Card
124
1
56487804
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1989 Fleer Sticker 3 Michael Jordan
Card
125
1
56487805
MINT 9
1989 Fleer Sticker 3 Michael Jordan
Card
126
1
56487806
MINT 9
1989 Fleer Sticker 3 Michael Jordan
Card
127
1
56487807
MINT 9
1989 Fleer Sticker 3 Michael Jordan
Card
128
1
56487808
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1989 Fleer Sticker 3 Michael Jordan
Card
129
1
56487809
NEAR MINT 7
1989 Fleer Sticker 5 Magic Johnson
Card
130
1
56487810
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1989 Fleer Sticker 4 Charles Barkley
Card
131
1
56487811
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1989 Fleer Sticker 4 Charles Barkley
Card
132
1
56487812
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1989 Fleer Sticker 6 Isiah Thomas
Card
133
1
56487813
NEAR MINT-MINT 8
1989 Fleer Sticker 7 Patrick Ewing
Card
134
1
56487814
MINT 9
1989 Fleer 49 Dennis Rodman
Card
135
1
N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT
1989 Fleer 100 Patrick Ewing
Card
Sorry about your luck on some of these. I've been getting similar results lately. I call it the Clint Eastwood good the bad and the ugly time of grading. I'd love to see those Ichiro's in particular.
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
first thing that comes to mind for me is how the 2001 sets bricked and I believe the cards in packs had a tendency to do that as well...maybe some very tiny paper transfers from one card to another on the Ichiro rookies?
The Ichiro's were (sadly) from a sealed set case and a bonus sealed set. they just cut them poorly, making the limiited's tough. Thought it would be a seven and three sixes... so not too bad relative to expectation. They weren't even bricked... just cut poorly for the shinier stock. Can't fault PSA as much as Topps (or my poor judgement o open them).
@Bosox1976 said:
The Ichiro's were (sadly) from a sealed set case and a bonus sealed set. they just cut them poorly, making the limiited's tough. Thought it would be a seven and three sixes... so not too bad relative to expectation. They weren't even bricked... just cut poorly for the shinier stock. Can't fault PSA as much as Topps (or my poor judgement o open them).
I had all 3 sets of these at one point. I noticed the HTA cards held up best. The limited all seemed to get some sort of film on them. Though it would wipe off that green border would flake very easily.
Just happened to have this card sitting on the desk as I was typing this. See if the ichiro shows any sign of this when you get it back. The flaking could have happened when the grader took the card out of the Card Saver.
The Ichiros definitely had border flaking. You can probably blow on those cards and the green will flake off. Limited Edition seems to do it the worst.
On your second Clemente I see a print dot in the black border almost in the center of the catcher’s thigh. There is something going on with the left edge by the umpire’s head. Still don’t see that card being a 3! The back got you pretty hard but I have seen 5s and 6s worse looking than that! Nice hit on the 9 though!
I got a head scratcher myself the other day. Now this card is nothing compared to those Clemente cards, in terms of value. It is the only Russell Wilson baseball card I have ever pulled in all of the ultra modern I have opened so I thought it was cool and wanted it slabbed. Thought for sure this was a 10, as it’s pretty easy to eyeball ultra modern and pre-grade them yourself. The card got an 8.5 but I can’t see anything wrong. Maybe someone can point out what I missed
@Bosox1976 said: @parthur1607 here are the Ichiros. Topps should have figured out how to cut them better, but still nice looking cards. Ah well…
Zoom in and you can see the hazy film that I mentioned as well. It will wipe off but you really run the risk of causing even more flaking. Someone mentioned those cards bricking really bad and that was a problem with mine as well. I can’t remember which set it happened on the worst but I don’t think it was on the limited set.
paper loss (if that is what it is) would do it...under "AVG"
That was my thought too. Maybe just a tiny bit somewhere would unfortunately be enough to kill a grade. I just thought maybe paper loss would take it to a 1, but if all other aspects of the card are so strong, maybe it brought it up to a 3? A light crease/bend wouldn't be enough to take it to a 3, it would be a 4.
Thanks for the thoughts guys - here is a closeup of the couple of ideas mentioned. It is not paper loss to the right, just some kind of paper imperfection that kept the gold/yellow color out. Not seeing any wrinkle by the 114 either, let alone a crease that would go through to the front causing a 3 (versus a 5). Am sure this one will get cracked out and sent in to someone again, but will happily keep the 9
Happy for you, and glad to see lots of 10s, but I have a value ultra modern received 12/13/20 and logged 2/17/21 but still languishing in the grading stage.
@MarshallFaulk28 said:
I sent in 5 cards for that $50 Economy promotion they had, and I see they just arrived yesterday. I wonder how long these will take...
I sent in 5 cards on the economy promotion, and they are in grading already.
@MarshallFaulk28 said:
I sent in 5 cards for that $50 Economy promotion they had, and I see they just arrived yesterday. I wonder how long these will take...
I sent in 5 cards on the economy promotion, and they are in grading already.
Fun times: it was just 1 year ago today that I sent my 2016 Topps group off for grading and today, still grading. By this time next year, I think we can maybe get over to assembly.
I find it frustrating that I have thousands of dollars worth of submissions there that are already over or will be well over a year at PSA and they are already opening up lower tier submissions. That coupled with grading inconsistencies has made me dabble in other grading companies. PSA is king but it may not be for much longer. Seem to be running off many loyal customers.
Comments
Reggie, I wish your Griffey cards had graded better.
What does the complete set part mean? 39 1 62009481 GEM MINT 10 2020 Topps Complete Set 392 Luis Robert Chrome Card
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
QA1 12/11
Bosox1976
Don’t worry Nick. Your 10’s take longer to hatch than my 7’s.
Bosox1976
Just jumped from Assembly to QA 1. (Value Vintage, 1971 - )
What is the prevailing thought about jumping to QA 2 then Shipping? A day, A week or A month?
A long awaited Christmas present or Happy New Year?
sjjs28@comcast.net
Collector of Baseball Hall of Famer's and Stars, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game and 1969 Topps Decals
Registered Sets: 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
I have a love/hate relationship with those grades. Obviously, I wish all my cards got a 10, but that would actually be a very bad thing for my collection since it would mean PSA is giving turd cards 10s they don't deserve. Two years ago, those cards would have gotten better grades. I'm happy to see the new stricter standards.
The "complete set" part of the Robert is a title any non-regular base card gets that comes in a Topps Factory set. Different factory sets have different "bonuses" inside them. One of the annual retail versions includes one of five Chrome photo variations for five rookies that they choose. This is the Chrome photo variation for Robert.
Arthur
A week (or two) is a good bet
Surprise! Just clicked over to QA 2... (Two days in QA 1)
Maybe this WILL be a long awaited Christmas present!
sjjs28@comcast.net
Collector of Baseball Hall of Famer's and Stars, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game and 1969 Topps Decals
Registered Sets: 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
QA2 12/14
Bosox1976
LOL order shipped today, exactly one year from the arrive date.
Grades were ALL OVER the place, but I'm prolly done again with grading, the current atmosphere at PSA is certainly Conservative. No fun to be had.
First in first out huh? Yeah right. Both still in grading after about 16 weeks of moving to the grading phase.
I feel your pain. Truly, PSA has lost my submission business. I will purchase PSA cards for sure as I know they are the most respected CGC, but will no longer waste my time submitting. Too many issues, constantly changing flips, too long, inconsistent grading, woeful customer service, and the whole Nat Turner takeover has soured me. I mean, really?, Kevin Durant is a major investor and PSA puts him on the cover of SMR? Talk about conflict of interest.
Talk about first in first out…I had a sub leapfrog one of my others. I submitted them in the same box and they were sequentially numbered. They were entered on the same day and hit grading the same day then assembly on the same day. Sub 1 hit QA1 on Sunday and is still in QA1. Sub 2 didn’t hit QA1 until yesterday and is already in QA2 and the review list has disappeared so I expect it to pop today. These subs have the same amount of cards and are the same service level. How did sub 2 fall 4 days behind and then leapfrog to the finish line in 1 day???
I don’t see the method to the madness. Oh well at least they are both close to complete!
Bah. Mixed bag. At least 35-40 “No Way” grades here. Way too many not graded too. But some decent ones. Ah well.
TOTAL ITEMS
135
DATE RECEIVED
3/5/2021
DATE SHIPPED
12/22/2021
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 56487681 MINT 9 1973 Topps 175 Frank Robinson Card
2 1 56487682 NEAR MINT 7 1973 Topps 174 Rich Gossage Card
3 1 56487683 MINT 9 1973 Topps 50 Roberto Clemente Card
4 1 56487684 VERY GOOD 3 1973 Topps 50 Roberto Clemente Card
5 1 56487685 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1974 Topps 207 Strikeout Leaders N.Ryan/T.Seaver Card
6 1 56487686 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1974 Topps 350 Bob Gibson Card
7 1 56487687 EXCELLENT 5 1974 Topps 473 World Series Game 2 Card
8 1 56487688 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 600 Tom Seaver Card
9 1 56487689 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 19 George Brett Card
10 1 56487690 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 98 Dennis Eckersley Card
11 1 56487691 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 160 Dave Winfield Card
12 1 N8: MISCUT 1976 Topps 240 Pete Rose Card
13 1 N8: MISCUT 1976 Topps 300 Johnny Bench Card
14 1 N8: MISCUT 1976 Topps 330 Nolan Ryan Card
15 1 56487695 MINT 9 1976 Topps 316 Robin Yount Card
16 1 56487696 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 347 Ted Williams All Time All-Star Card
17 1 56487697 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 420 Joe Morgan Card
18 1 56487698 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 480 Mike Schmidt Card
19 1 56487699 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 500 Reggie Jackson Card
20 1 56487700 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 550 Hank Aaron Card
21 1 56487701 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 592 Rookie Infielders Card
22 1 56487702 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 600 Tom Seaver Card
23 1 56487703 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 140 Vida Blue Card
24 1 56487704 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 150 Steve Garvey Card
25 1 56487705 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 340 Jim Rice Card
26 1 56487706 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 373 Johnny Briggs Card
27 1 56487707 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 150 Tom Seaver Card
28 1 56487708 NEAR MINT 7 1977 Topps 295 Gary Carter Card
29 1 56487709 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 140 Mike Schmidt Card
30 1 56487710 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 144 Bruce Sutter Card
31 1 56487711 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 450 Pete Rose Card
32 1 56487712 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 530 Dave Winfield Card
33 1 56487713 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 36 Eddie Murray Card
34 1 56487714 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 700 Johnny Bench Card
35 1 56487715 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 380 Ted Simmons Card
36 1 56487716 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 135 Ron Guidry Card
37 1 56487717 MINT 9 1978 Topps 40 Carl Yastrzemski Card
38 1 56487718 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 360 Mike Schmidt Card
39 1 56487719 MINT 9 1978 Topps 704 Rookie 2nd Basemen Card
40 1 56487720 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 36 Eddie Murray Card
41 1 56487721 MINT 9 1978 Topps 60 Thurman Munson Card
42 1 56487722 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 160 Jim Palmer Card
43 1 56487723 EXCELLENT 5 1978 Topps 270 Carlton Fisk Card
44 1 56487724 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 707 Rookie Shortstops Card
45 1 56487725 EXCELLENT 5 1978 Topps 360 Mike Schmidt Card
46 1 56487726 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 36 Eddie Murray Card
47 1 56487727 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 707 Rookie Shortstops Card
48 1 56487728 MINT 9 1978 Topps 6 Nolan Ryan Card
49 1 56487729 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 34 Willie McCovey Card
50 1 56487730 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 60 Thurman Munson Card
51 1 56487731 MINT 9 1978 Topps 170 Lou Brock Card
52 1 56487732 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 300 Joe Morgan Card
53 1 56487733 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 360 Mike Schmidt Card
54 1 56487734 MINT 9 1978 Topps 450 Tom Seaver Card
55 1 56487735 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 Topps 412 All-Time RBI Ldrs. H.Wilson/H.Aaron Card
56 1 56487736 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1979 Topps 116 Ozzie Smith Card
57 1 56487737 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 Topps 95 Robin Yount Card
58 1 56487738 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 Topps 115 Nolan Ryan Card
59 1 56487739 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1979 Topps 610 Mike Schmidt Card
60 1 56487740 MINT 9 1982 Topps 21 Orioles Future Stars Bonner/Ripken/Schneider Card
61 1 56487741 MINT 9 1983 Topps Traded 108T Darryl Strawberry Card
62 1 56487742 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1984 Topps Traded 103T Pete Rose Card
63 1 56487743 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1984 Topps Traded 42T Dwight Gooden Card
64 1 56487744 MINT 9 1984 Topps 182 Darryl Strawberry Card
65 1 56487745 VERY GOOD 3 1984 Topps 8 Don Mattingly Card
66 1 56487746 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Topps 536 Kirby Puckett Card
67 1 56487747 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Topps 401 Mark McGwire 1984 USA Baseball Team Card
68 1 56487748 GEM MINT 10 1985 Topps 30 Cal Ripken Jr. Card
69 1 56487749 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Topps 401 Mark McGwire 1984 USA Baseball Team Card
70 1 56487750 MINT 9 1985 Topps 200 Reggie Jackson Card
71 1 56487751 MINT 9 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars Tim Raines/Roberto Ramos/Bobby Pate Card
72 1 56487752 GEM MINT 10 1985 Fleer 286 Kirby Puckett Card
73 1 56487753 MINT 9 1986 Topps Traded 11T Barry Bonds Card
74 1 56487754 MINT 9 1986 Topps Traded 20T Jose Canseco Card
75 1 56487755 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Donruss 39 Jose Canseco Card
76 1 56487756 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Donruss 28 Fred McGriff Card
77 1 56487757 MINT 9 1986 Fleer 649 Major League Pros. E.Plunk/J.Canseco Card
78 1 56487758 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer 653 Major League Pros. C.Fielder/C.Snyder Card
79 1 56487759 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 757 Nolan Ryan Card
80 1 56487760 MINT 9 1987 Topps All-Star Glossy Set of 60 30 Barry Bonds Card
81 1 56487761 GEM MINT 10 1987 Fleer 604 Barry Bonds Card
82 1 56487762 GEM MINT 10 1987 Fleer Update U-24 Andre Dawson Card
83 1 56487763 GEM MINT 10 1987 Fleer Update U-30 Dennis Eckersley Card
84 1 56487764 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer Update U-31 Cecil Fielder Card
85 1 56487765 GEM MINT 10 1987 Fleer Update U-68 Greg Maddux Card
86 1 56487766 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer Update U-68 Greg Maddux Card
87 1 56487767 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer Update U-68 Greg Maddux Card
88 1 56487768 GEM MINT 10 1987 Fleer Update U-68 Greg Maddux Card
89 1 56487769 MINT 9 1987 Fleer Update U-68 Greg Maddux Card
90 1 56487770 MINT 9 1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire Card
91 1 56487771 GEM MINT 10 1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire Card
92 1 56487772 MINT 9 1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire Card
93 1 56487773 MINT 9 1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire Card
94 1 56487774 MINT 9 1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire Card
95 1 56487775 MINT 9 1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire Card
96 1 56487776 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire Card
97 1 56487777 GEM MINT 10 1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire Card
98 1 56487778 MINT 9 1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire Card
99 1 56487779 MINT 9 1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire Card
100 1 56487780 MINT 9 1987 Fleer Update U-76 Mark McGwire Card
101 1 56487781 MINT 9 1988 Topps 779 Tom Glavine Card
102 1 56487782 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Score 638 Tom Glavine Card
103 1 56487783 NEAR MINT 7 1988 Fleer 539 Tom Glavine Card
104 1 56487784 MINT 9 1988 Fleer 423 Greg Maddux Card
105 1 56487785 GEM MINT 10 1989 Upper Deck 25 Randy Johnson Star Rookie Card
106 1 56487786 MINT 9 1989 Fleer 616 Bill Ripken FF Error Card
107 1 56487787 GEM MINT 10 1989 Fleer 616 Bill Ripken Black Box Over Error Card
108 1 56487788 MINT 9 1989 Fleer Update U-59 Randy Johnson Card
109 1 56487789 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 381 Randy Johnson Ad Partially Obscured Card
110 1 56487790 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Fleer 548 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
111 1 56487791 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Score 645 Randy Johnson Card
112 1 56487792 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Score 637 Edgar Martinez Card
113 1 56487793 MINT 9 1989 Donruss Rookies 43 Randy Johnson Card
114 1 56487794 EXCELLENT 5 1989 Donruss Rookies 3 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
115 1 56487795 MINT 9 1989 Score Traded 100T Ken Griffey Jr. Card
116 1 56487796 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Donruss 33 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
117 1 56487797 MINT 9 1989 Topps Traded 41T Ken Griffey Jr. Card
118 1 56487798 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps Traded 41T Ken Griffey Jr. Card
119 1 56487799 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 2001 Topps Limited Edition 726 Ichiro Suzuki Card
120 1 56487800 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 2001 Topps Limited Edition 726 Ichiro Suzuki Card
121 1 56487801 EXCELLENT 5 2001 Topps Limited Edition 726 Ichiro Suzuki Card
122 1 56487802 EXCELLENT 5 2001 Topps Limited Edition 726 Ichiro Suzuki Card
123 1 56487803 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 35 Ken Dryden Card
124 1 56487804 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Fleer Sticker 3 Michael Jordan Card
125 1 56487805 MINT 9 1989 Fleer Sticker 3 Michael Jordan Card
126 1 56487806 MINT 9 1989 Fleer Sticker 3 Michael Jordan Card
127 1 56487807 MINT 9 1989 Fleer Sticker 3 Michael Jordan Card
128 1 56487808 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer Sticker 3 Michael Jordan Card
129 1 56487809 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Fleer Sticker 5 Magic Johnson Card
130 1 56487810 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer Sticker 4 Charles Barkley Card
131 1 56487811 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer Sticker 4 Charles Barkley Card
132 1 56487812 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer Sticker 6 Isiah Thomas Card
133 1 56487813 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer Sticker 7 Patrick Ewing Card
134 1 56487814 MINT 9 1989 Fleer 49 Dennis Rodman Card
135 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1989 Fleer 100 Patrick Ewing Card
Bosox1976
mike , seems like a bunch of nice grades and a bunch of head scratchers. 84 mattingly 3? say what!!
Very nice hit on the 73 Clemente Mike, and after all these years of knowing you and your eye for grading, I can see that lots of those cards are graded incorrectly.
Mike, nice hits on the Clemente and '78 Palmer. With the '76's, some graders consider cards with the green strip at the edge on the reverse as a 'miscut' while other graders will holder them. If that was their issue, I'd try resubmitting them someday.
Sorry about your luck on some of these. I've been getting similar results lately. I call it the Clint Eastwood good the bad and the ugly time of grading. I'd love to see those Ichiro's in particular.
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
first thing that comes to mind for me is how the 2001 sets bricked and I believe the cards in packs had a tendency to do that as well...maybe some very tiny paper transfers from one card to another on the Ichiro rookies?
The Ichiro's were (sadly) from a sealed set case and a bonus sealed set. they just cut them poorly, making the limiited's tough. Thought it would be a seven and three sixes... so not too bad relative to expectation. They weren't even bricked... just cut poorly for the shinier stock. Can't fault PSA as much as Topps (or my poor judgement o open them).
Bosox1976
I had all 3 sets of these at one point. I noticed the HTA cards held up best. The limited all seemed to get some sort of film on them. Though it would wipe off that green border would flake very easily.
Just happened to have this card sitting on the desk as I was typing this. See if the ichiro shows any sign of this when you get it back. The flaking could have happened when the grader took the card out of the Card Saver.
Definitely some bombs in there (in a good way). Congrats on those!
Arthur
Got them back yesterday. Still scratching my head on many of the off grade results. I thought these would both be 8’s…
Bosox1976
Why did the second Clemente get a PSA 3? Is it the back? Amazing that there are still raw 50 year old cards in mint condition out there.
Can’t find anything of note on front or back. Weird.
Bosox1976
You have some supremo cards, Mike!!!!! Love seeing them.
@parthur1607 here are the Ichiros. Topps should have figured out how to cut them better, but still nice looking cards. Ah well…



Bosox1976
Thanks for posting the photos to give a better sense to followers here.
From the photos you sent, the corners on the 3 look sharper than those on the 9s! LOL.
There appears to be something irregular going on in the '70 to '72 stats...perhaps the card absorbed some water?
The Ichiros definitely had border flaking. You can probably blow on those cards and the green will flake off. Limited Edition seems to do it the worst.
On your second Clemente I see a print dot in the black border almost in the center of the catcher’s thigh. There is something going on with the left edge by the umpire’s head. Still don’t see that card being a 3! The back got you pretty hard but I have seen 5s and 6s worse looking than that! Nice hit on the 9 though!
I got a head scratcher myself the other day. Now this card is nothing compared to those Clemente cards, in terms of value. It is the only Russell Wilson baseball card I have ever pulled in all of the ultra modern I have opened so I thought it was cool and wanted it slabbed. Thought for sure this was a 10, as it’s pretty easy to eyeball ultra modern and pre-grade them yourself. The card got an 8.5 but I can’t see anything wrong. Maybe someone can point out what I missed
The white spots are just dust on the case
Zoom in and you can see the hazy film that I mentioned as well. It will wipe off but you really run the risk of causing even more flaking. Someone mentioned those cards bricking really bad and that was a problem with mine as well. I can’t remember which set it happened on the worst but I don’t think it was on the limited set.
Very pleased here...Value - Ultra Modern.
rcvd 12/29/20
logged 2/25//2021
Popped 12/27/21
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2 1 55883164 GEM MINT 10 2017 Topps Chrome Update HMT50 Aaron Judge Card
3 1 55883165 MINT 9 2017 Panini Prestige 294 Myles Garrett Purple Xtra Points Card
4 1 55883166 GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Certified 136 Myles Garrett Mirror Orange Card
5 1 55883167 GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Unparalleled 237 Myles Garrett Pink Card
6 1 55883168 GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Unparalleled 237 Myles Garrett Yellow Card
7 1 55883169 MINT 9 2017 Panini Illusions Mystique 1 Myles Garrett Card
8 1 55883170 GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Donruss the Elite Series 7 Patrick Mahomes II Rookies Card
9 1 55883171 GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Donruss 327 Patrick Mahomes II Card
10 1 55883172 GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Prestige Blue Chip Prospects 8 Patrick Mahomes II Card
11 1 55883173 MINT 9 2017 Panini Score NFL Draft 2 Patrick Mahomes II Card
12 1 55883174 MINT 9 2017 SA-GE Hit Premier Draft 43 Patrick Mahomes II Card
13 1 55883175 GEM MINT 10 2017 SA-GE Hit Premier Draft 43 Patrick Mahomes II Card
14 1 55883176 GEM MINT 10 2017 SA-GE Hit Premier Draft 5 Patrick Mahomes II Card
15 1 55883177 GEM MINT 10 2017 SA-GE Hit Premier Draft 5 Patrick Mahomes II Card
16 1 55883178 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2017 Panini Donruss 343 Dalvin Cook Card
17 1 55883179 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2018 Panini Donruss 317 Lamar Jackson Card
18 1 55883180 GEM MINT 10 2018 Panini Donruss 308 Nick Chubb Card
19 1 55883181 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm Draft Picks 100 Tom Brady Card
20 1 55883182 MINT 9 2020 Leaf Metal Draft Autographs BAHB1 Harrison Bryant Red Prismatic Card
21 1 55883183 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2017 Panini Essentials EssentiAL Stars ES-1 LeBron James Card
22 1 55883184 MINT 9 2019 Panini Contenders Draft Picks 83 Dylan Windler Autograph-Building Blocks Card
23 1 55883185 GEM MINT 10 2020 Panini Chronicles Draft Picks Prestige 3 Joe Burrow Card
24 1 55883186 GEM MINT 10 2020 Panini Donruss 301 Joe Burrow Card
25 1 55883187 GEM MINT 10 2020 Leaf Draft 1 Joe Burrow Card
26 1 55883188 GEM MINT 10 2020 Leaf Draft 61 Joe Burrow Card
27 1 55883189 MINT 9 2020 Sage Hit Premier Draft 47 Joe Burrow Card
28 1 55883190 MINT 9 2019 Panini Score NFL Draft DFT9 Kyler Murray Red Card
29 1 55883191 GEM MINT 10 2020 Panini Score 439 Tee Higgins Card
30 1 55883192 GEM MINT 10 2020 Leaf Draft 69 Tee Higgins Card
31 1 55883193 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2017 Panini Score NFL Draft 3 Deshaun Watson Card
32 1 55883194 MINT 9 2019 Panini Certified 177 Kevin Porter Jr. Mirror Red Card
The PSA 3 appears to have some miniscule back imperfection. Send it to PWCC for "HE" designation. LOL.
1973 Clemente Clemente might have a crease on back. From stat 114 through 3rd
paper loss (if that is what it is) would do it...under "AVG"
t> @azvike said:
That was my thought too. Maybe just a tiny bit somewhere would unfortunately be enough to kill a grade. I just thought maybe paper loss would take it to a 1, but if all other aspects of the card are so strong, maybe it brought it up to a 3? A light crease/bend wouldn't be enough to take it to a 3, it would be a 4.
Thanks for the thoughts guys - here is a closeup of the couple of ideas mentioned. It is not paper loss to the right, just some kind of paper imperfection that kept the gold/yellow color out. Not seeing any wrinkle by the 114 either, let alone a crease that would go through to the front causing a 3 (versus a 5). Am sure this one will get cracked out and sent in to someone again, but will happily keep the 9
Bosox1976
Happy for you, and glad to see lots of 10s, but I have a value ultra modern received 12/13/20 and logged 2/17/21 but still languishing in the grading stage.
Ouch...absolutely should be moving soon...Mine was in Grading forever, but once it got out of there it moved along quickly...good luck!
Modern
Arrived: 12/11/20
Entered: 2/25/21
Grade results: 12/28/21
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Until they publish subgrades it's always going to be a black box result. And they won't publish subgrades, so....
I sent in (3) cards under the new $100 Regular level... they should land on Monday. It'll be interesting to see how long these take.
I sent in 5 cards for that $50 Economy promotion they had, and I see they just arrived yesterday. I wonder how long these will take...
I sent in 5 cards on the economy promotion, and they are in grading already.
That's cool. Here's hoping... 🤞🏻
I sent in a 34 card Regular ($100 per card) sub, and they were logged as Received on Friday, 12/31. The wait begins...
Fun times: it was just 1 year ago today that I sent my 2016 Topps group off for grading and today, still grading. By this time next year, I think we can maybe get over to assembly.
I find it frustrating that I have thousands of dollars worth of submissions there that are already over or will be well over a year at PSA and they are already opening up lower tier submissions. That coupled with grading inconsistencies has made me dabble in other grading companies. PSA is king but it may not be for much longer. Seem to be running off many loyal customers.
Regular 34 Card Sub
Mailed - 12/30
Rec'd - 12/31
Logged/Research & ID - 1/6