Already told PSA the stickers are all being returned so I can have a Senior grader review these. I may be a touch older, but I've submitted 10's and 9's--dozens upon dozens of them. There's just no way...
"...life is but a dream."
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
Does anyone know if they have started using the AI grading mechanism? If so, I have a feeling all of the pre-89 (sans upper deck) will be receiving tougher grades moving forward.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
@ejguru said:
All stickers being sent right back to CS for a senior grader. No way anyone with any vintage sticker experience looked at all of them.
Are you saying you called and got them to have someone else take a look at them before they are being sent back to you?
Occasionally they will do this, I had an order of over 100 each 1987-88 Fleer Basketball, straight from a BBCE sealed box. They held the order after giving me a week timeout cause I was so pissed (Mouthed off on the Forums), over 1/2 were graded EOT. They relooked at them and Graded all 100plus, but F&%$ed on the Grades, giving most 7's and 8's, 1 MINT 9, and no 10's So they'll get you in the end! They were all cracked out and in other subs got mostly 9's and 7 each10's
@ejguru said:
Sitting in QA 2 myself as of last night. Was in QA 1 for a couple of days prior.
Received Logged
11/24/20 02/09/21 N/A See Details 37 Value Vintage (1971-)
ditto. Mine hit QA2 a few days ago. Description disappeared night before last.
Nice, you guys are giving me hope for a 2021 return on both my order entered Feb 16 that are still in grading
Jayman - when did your orders enter grading? My order is about to begin its eighth month in research and ID (entered 4/15).
The ones entered Feb 18 have been in Grading since late August I believe. I have a sub entered Mar 25 that hit grading around the same time, but all my April entered subs (15th, 19th, 22nd) are all still in R&I.
I tried to have that done before shipping, but no chance. Will simply separate them from the non-stickers and send them back for re-evaluation. Someone is going to have to explain these to me. Maybe I'll send some 9's and 10's so they have some examples--maybe they don't know what one looks like?
"...life is but a dream."
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
@ejguru said:
I tried to have that done before shipping, but no chance. Will simply separate them from the non-stickers and send them back for re-evaluation. Someone is going to have to explain these to me. Maybe I'll send some 9's and 10's so they have some examples--maybe they don't know what one looks like?
I feel your pain. Something is definitely screwy with the grading this year. I am not subbing anything anytime soon either. Not with the kind of grading inconsistencies I've been seeing myself. Sorry for your disappointment and good luck in the future with your collection.
@ejguru said:
I tried to have that done before shipping, but no chance. Will simply separate them from the non-stickers and send them back for re-evaluation. Someone is going to have to explain these to me. Maybe I'll send some 9's and 10's so they have some examples--maybe they don't know what one looks like?
I have the only set of all 9's and higher and have had at least 8 completely graded sets of these stickers. I know Eric has multiples of these and we have traded in the past on a few of these as well as I have sold a bunch of others to him. There is absolutely no way he is sending in an order that gets mostly 5's - 7's. I don't want to go so far to get booted but this is totally unacceptable. There are lots of examples of this happening but this is as cut and dry as they come in my book and no way to defend it besides lack of experience in the grading room which is creating massive inconsistencies which ultimately tarnishes the PSA brand that we all are committed too .............
Anybody getting Sat/Sun Poppage recently. I ask because I have my Oldest sub that moved after several months in Assembly Tues Night/Weds to QC1, then on Thurs Night/Fri it moved to QC2 where it sits! And it does have the correct CC info!
Does anyone remember when they stopped accepting quarterly specials? I would have to imagine that they would be within a month or two from finishing all of those submissions. Then they can focus more on what remains of the value submissions.
@nam812 said:
My value ultra modern that was entered on 2/17/21 went into grading just over 9 weeks ago (8/25/21) and is still in grading. Your mileage may vary.
2 weeks since I made this post and I'm still in grading.
@shawther said:
Does anyone remember when they stopped accepting quarterly specials? I would have to imagine that they would be within a month or two from finishing all of those submissions. Then they can focus more on what remains of the value submissions.
I subbed a 60's special in early April 2021. I think that was cutoff for specials.
@shawther said:
Does anyone remember when they stopped accepting quarterly specials? I would have to imagine that they would be within a month or two from finishing all of those submissions. Then they can focus more on what remains of the value submissions.
I subbed a 60's special in early April 2021. I think that was cutoff for specials.
Yes, that special ended in March. From what I'm hearing and seeing with numbers.....that has minimally another year to completion. OUCH.
Overnight Poppage, The really Bad, Ugly and a few bright spots! The 1965 Rosan Blue Monster Non Sport Card set has only about 540 Graded Cards, of which about 250-300 have been subbed by me. This set I send should have garnered at least 2-6 MINT 9's.
Still overall not terrible, terrible, but not Great by any means. The first #1-5 in 8's are awesome, and #1 & #2 are Highest Graded, Pop 1, and many others are highest Graded, Pop1 or 2! Still way too many EX-MT 6's.
1 1 53505518 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 1 Now Where Was I? Card
2 1 53505519 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 2 Curse of the Faceless Man Card
3 1 53505520 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 3 Gets Me Right Here Card
4 1 53505521 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 4 Bride and the Beast Card
5 1 53505522 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 5 Gramma Will Get You A Cookie Card
6 1 53505523 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 6 Somebody Done This Card
7 1 53505524 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 7 Angry Red Planet Card
8 1 53505525 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 8 Invasion of Saucermen Card
9 1 53505526 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 9 the Golem Card
10 1 53505527 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 10 Haunted Stranger Card
11 1 53505528 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 11 Look MA--No Feet Card
12 1 53505529 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 12 I Smoke Filter Tips Card
13 1 53505530 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 13 Who's A Cabbagehead? Card
14 1 53505531 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 14 the Mysterians Card
15 1 53505532 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 15 You're Cute Too Card
16 1 53505533 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 16 You're Not My Mummy Card
17 1 53505534 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 17 Curse of the Mummy Card
18 1 53505535 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 18 Like Man I'm Tired Card
19 1 53505536 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 19 Fiend Without A Face Card
20 1 53505537 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 20 Speak Up, Boy! Card
21 1 53505538 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 21 Mad Soul Card
22 1 53505539 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 22 Hunchback of Notre Dame Card
23 1 53505540 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 23 Here Kitty Kitty! Card
24 1 53505541 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 24 Phantom of the Opera Card
25 1 53505542 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 25 Hideous Sun Demon Card
26 1 53505543 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 26 It's Only the Avon Lady! Card
27 1 53505544 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 27 Jack the Ripper Card
28 1 53505545 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 28 Look, PA-- No Cavities Card
29 1 53505546 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 29 the Savage Eye Card
30 1 53505547 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 30 Really, Old Chap Card
31 1 53505548 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 32 the Deadly Mantis Card
32 1 53505549 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 33 Brain From Planet Arous Card
33 1 53505550 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 34 Don't You Dare Touch Me! Card
34 1 53505551 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 35 13 Ghosts Card
35 1 53505552 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 36 the Mutant Card
36 1 53505553 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 37 Rodan Card
37 1 53505554 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 38 From Tarantula Card
38 1 53505555 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 39 House of Wax Card
39 1 53505556 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 40 the Tingler Card
40 1 53505557 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 41 Find It Fast in the Yellow Pages Card
41 1 53505558 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 42 I'm Starved Card
42 1 53505559 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 43 Queen of Outer Space Card
43 1 53505560 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 44 Wanna Rassle? Card
44 1 53505561 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 45 Guess Who's Winning? Card
45 1 53505562 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 46 the Blob Card
46 1 53505563 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 47 Hold Still, Now.. Card
47 1 53505564 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 48 You Ain't So Cute Either! Card
48 1 53505565 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 49 Cool It, Man-- Card
49 1 53505566 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 50 You'Ve Got Bad Breath Card
50 1 53505567 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 51 Outer Space Card
51 1 53505568 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1965 Monster Cards 52 Squares Dancing Card
52 1 53505569 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 53 Attack of the Green Leeches Card
53 1 53505570 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 54 I Like Kides (Well Done) Card
54 1 53505571 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 56 Sinbad the Sailor Card
55 1 53505572 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 57 I Need Vitamins Card
56 1 53505573 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 58 Too Much Pizza, Mom! Card
57 1 53505574 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 59 Fly Now--Pay Later Card
58 1 53505575 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 60 I'm Going Batty!! Card
59 1 53505576 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 61 Meanwhile, Back at the Swamp Card
60 1 53505577 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 62 Monster From Green Hell Card
61 1 53505578 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 63 I'm Getting Sick! Card
62 1 53505579 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 64 "Cheese" Card
63 1 53505580 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 65 Strange Earthling Card
64 1 53505581 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 66 You're My Boy Card
65 1 53505582 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 67 the Electronic Monster Card
66 1 53505583 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 68 I'll Carve the Turkey Card
67 1 53505584 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 69 Terror From the Year 5000 Card
68 1 53505585 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 70 Dig That Crazy Grasshopper!!! Card
69 1 53505586 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 71 Where's That Ddt?! Card
70 1 53505587 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 72 Do I Know You? Card
71 1 53505588 EXCELLENT 5 1965 Monster Cards 73 That's One Way to Get Ahead Card
72 1 53505589 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 74 Return of the Vampire Card
73 1 53505590 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 75 Monster on the Campus Card
74 1 53505591 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 76 Shall We Dance? Card
75 1 53505592 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 77 I Smoke Marijuana Card
76 1 53505593 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 78 Satan Satellites Card
77 1 53505594 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 79 the Undead Card
78 1 53505595 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 80 From Hell It Came Card
79 1 53505596 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 81 Blood of Dracula Card
80 1 53505597 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 82 Will It Hurt, Doc? Naw, I'm Just... Card
81 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1965 Monster Cards 83 AW, Let's Be Friends Card
82 1 53505599 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 84 Sure Beats Stamp Collection Card
87 1 53505604 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 55 House of Haunted Hill Card
88 1 53505605 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 31 I Hate Milk Card
@shawther said:
Does anyone remember when they stopped accepting quarterly specials? I would have to imagine that they would be within a month or two from finishing all of those submissions. Then they can focus more on what remains of the value submissions.
I subbed a 60's special in early April 2021. I think that was cutoff for specials.
Yes, that special ended in March. From what I'm hearing and seeing with numbers.....that has minimally another year to completion. OUCH.
wondering if you could elaborate more where minimum of another year is what you are hearing?
currently outside of TCG they are pretty much into February entries for completion. if everything was entered by the end of May, then there are about 4 months of entered orders to go on the backlog. not saying it isn't possible or you are wrong but curious because it looks like progress is being made.
It’s to bad we are left guessing at how many cards they still have piled up. I know that there were a ton of cards submitted before they were shut down. Their progress has definitely slowed lately now that they are getting to submissions that they received at the beginning of the year or end of last year. Unless there are more changes, I could definitely see cards received in April not being back in hand until this time next year. Especially if they open up other sub levels before the then. Again who really knows?
Express Order arrived 11/1, entered 11/2 and grades popped 11/16.
I heard that Nat hinted to opening up another service level within the next couple of weeks. I would assume that will be "regular" and $100 but that purely speculation based on where things ended up. My last regular submission was 6 months, arrived in Feb, entered in April, grades in August. I have to believe that they aren't even into the meat of the surge of cards they received. I think Feb-April was a total onslaught of cards. Curious if anyone has anything (not qtrly special) received end of March or early April and when it was actually entered.
Does anyone know what happened to @blurryface ? No activity since 11/4 and I can only assume his avatar indicates a ban-hammer came down, it's not the jailbird icon I was getting used to seeing.
@nam812 I remember being aggravated when it actually took 45 days. Looking back at some of my old orders, regular was 6 days entered to shipped. A modern special was 8 days, I even had a 300+ card bulk order that was done in under 2 months. Of course those were the days when you could negotiate a $4/card fee too.
@envoy982 said:
Does anyone know what happened to @blurryface ? No activity since 11/4 and I can only assume his avatar indicates a ban-hammer came down, it's not the jailbird icon I was getting used to seeing.
Did he do something ban-worthy? I didn't see anything in this thread. He's just waiting for all his orders like the rest of everyone here. 🤷🏼♂️
@envoy982 said:
Does anyone know what happened to @blurryface ? No activity since 11/4 and I can only assume his avatar indicates a ban-hammer came down, it's not the jailbird icon I was getting used to seeing.
Did he do something ban-worthy? I didn't see anything in this thread. He's just waiting for all his orders like the rest of everyone here. 🤷🏼♂️
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@ldferg said:
Does anyone know if they have started using the AI grading mechanism? If so, I have a feeling all of the pre-89 (sans upper deck) will be receiving tougher grades moving forward.
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I'll learn soon enough if A) AI is being used at all, and if Graders indeed will have final say; and B ) If the AI system sees it as a flaw. I sent in two test cards on my recent Express sub . Both have a well known mark on the item that is manufacturer caused that to my knowledge all 5 examples that have come to light of the 24 possible have it. Highest possible grade because of it is a 9. I'll show off the item when the two new examples come back.
@shawther said:
Does anyone remember when they stopped accepting quarterly specials? I would have to imagine that they would be within a month or two from finishing all of those submissions. Then they can focus more on what remains of the value submissions.
I subbed a 60's special in early April 2021. I think that was cutoff for specials.
Yes, that special ended in March. From what I'm hearing and seeing with numbers.....that has minimally another year to completion. OUCH.
wondering if you could elaborate more where minimum of another year is what you are hearing?
currently outside of TCG they are pretty much into February entries for completion. if everything was entered by the end of May, then there are about 4 months of entered orders to go on the backlog. not saying it isn't possible or you are wrong but curious because it looks like progress is being made.
It had been stated on more than 1 occasion that they were receiving on average 100K cards per day from Jan-Mar. Just that would be 9 mil cards. 600K on one day during that time. It also was said they graded 1.5 mil for the last 2 months combined. Also, many cards are not included on that tracker. Plus, i've heard they are still receiving quite a few cards currently. It adds up to alot of cards still during that time frame to be graded. If 7.5 million and you grade 750K per month.... that's minimally 10 months. That has nothing to do with what you receive and have received since APRIL. They have a lot to figure out. What a great problem for a business to have.
I have reached a full year for one of my subs and it is still in grading. Arrived 11/9/20 and logged 1/29/21, can't remember when it went in to grading but it's been quite a while. Anybody have that beat?
@envoy982 said:
Express Order arrived 11/1, entered 11/2 and grades popped 11/16.
I heard that Nat hinted to opening up another service level within the next couple of weeks. I would assume that will be "regular" and $100 but that purely speculation based on where things ended up. My last regular submission was 6 months, arrived in Feb, entered in April, grades in August. I have to believe that they aren't even into the meat of the surge of cards they received. I think Feb-April was a total onslaught of cards. Curious if anyone has anything (not qtrly special) received end of March or early April and when it was actually entered.
closest I have to report is two value subs (modern and ultra) received Mar 11 and entered Apr 22
@maddux69 said:
I have reached a full year for one of my subs and it is still in grading. Arrived 11/9/20 and logged 1/29/21, can't remember when it went in to grading but it's been quite a while. Anybody have that beat?
@maddux69 said:
I have reached a full year for one of my subs and it is still in grading. Arrived 11/9/20 and logged 1/29/21, can't remember when it went in to grading but it's been quite a while. Anybody have that beat?
A January logged sub still in grading sucks for me to hear (I have 2 mid Feb. logs in grading) as I thought mine would be moving to assembly soon.
What was it Jason? Value modern? Value ultra modern? Other?
It had been stated on more than 1 occasion that they were receiving on average 100K cards per day from Jan-Mar. Just that would be 9 mil cards. 600K on one day during that time. It also was said they graded 1.5 mil for the last 2 months combined. Also, many cards are not included on that tracker. Plus, i've heard they are still receiving quite a few cards currently. It adds up to alot of cards still during that time frame to be graded. If 7.5 million and you grade 750K per month.... that's minimally 10 months. That has nothing to do with what you receive and have received since APRIL. They have a lot to figure out. What a great problem for a business to have.
Imagine how much plastic that requires, to create that many new slabs... in a market where it's hard to get most kinds products or raw materials. Of course we're just speculating because THE PEOPLE RUNNING PSA ARE NO LONGER POSTING UPDATES TO THE PUBLIC!! HELLLLLOOOOOO?!?!?!?!
Sorry, I'm back now. I'm just trying to politely say maybe it would be a good idea to give us (your loyal customers) an update.
Meanwhile:
Value Modern (25 Cards)
Arrived = 10/29/20
Logged = 01/25/21
Grading = 06/30/21
Assembly = not yet...
Wednesday evening Value Modern poppage. Date "received" was 2/11/21.
1 1 54948667 GEM MINT 10 1991 Pro Set 835 John Randle
2 1 54948668 GEM MINT 10 1991 Pro Set 835 John Randle
3 1 54948669 MINT 9 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
4 1 54948670 MINT 9 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
5 1 54948671 MINT 9 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
6 1 54948672 GEM MINT 10 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
7 1 54948673 MINT 9 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
8 1 54948674 GEM MINT 10 1995 SP 147 Tony Boselli
9 1 54948675 MINT 9 1996 Bowman's Best 164 Ray Lewis
10 1 54948676 MINT 9 1996 SP 18 Marvin Harrison
11 1 54948677 MINT 9 1998 Bowman 1 Peyton Manning
12 1 54948678 MINT 9 1998 Bowman's Best 112 Peyton Manning
13 1 54948679 GEM MINT 10 2000 Bowman Chrome 178 Brian Urlacher
14 1 54948680 MINT 9 2000 Bowman Chrome 222 John Abraham Refractor
15 1 54948681 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2001 Topps Chrome 223 Steve Smith Rookie Refractor
16 1 54948682 GEM MINT 10 2003 Topps Chrome 169 Terrell Suggs
17 1 54948683 GEM MINT 10 2004 SP Authentic 146 Bob Sanders
18 1 54948684 GEM MINT 10 2006 Topps Chrome 176 Haloti Ngata
19 1 54948685 MINT 9 2006 Topps Chrome 176 Haloti Ngata
20 1 54948686 MINT 9 2006 Topps Chrome 176 Haloti Ngata
21 1 54948687 MINT 9 2015 Topps 273 Marshal Yanda
22 1 54948688 GEM MINT 10 2015 Topps 273 Marshal Yanda
I'm VERY happy with this one. Got 3/4 gems on the Ravens I needed. The Yanda in particular is a MONSTER - very tough gem there for what amounts to basically an ultra modern shiny. The two Manning 9s were properly graded and the Steve Smith would have been the one card on the order I would have predicted could get any grade - that set is just a crapshoot in my experience. Only bummer for me is the Abraham - I thought I had a 50/50 shot at a gem there and I really want a 10 for my PC.
@maddux69 said:
I have reached a full year for one of my subs and it is still in grading. Arrived 11/9/20 and logged 1/29/21, can't remember when it went in to grading but it's been quite a while. Anybody have that beat?
A January logged sub still in grading sucks for me to hear (I have 2 mid Feb. logs in grading) as I thought mine would be moving to assembly soon.
What was it Jason? Value modern? Value ultra modern? Other?
It's a grade add on for a few PSA/DNA slabs. I feel like Willem Dafoe in Platoon
@shawther said:
Does anyone remember when they stopped accepting quarterly specials? I would have to imagine that they would be within a month or two from finishing all of those submissions. Then they can focus more on what remains of the value submissions.
I subbed a 60's special in early April 2021. I think that was cutoff for specials.
Yes, that special ended in March. From what I'm hearing and seeing with numbers.....that has minimally another year to completion. OUCH.
wondering if you could elaborate more where minimum of another year is what you are hearing?
currently outside of TCG they are pretty much into February entries for completion. if everything was entered by the end of May, then there are about 4 months of entered orders to go on the backlog. not saying it isn't possible or you are wrong but curious because it looks like progress is being made.
It had been stated on more than 1 occasion that they were receiving on average 100K cards per day from Jan-Mar. Just that would be 9 mil cards. 600K on one day during that time. It also was said they graded 1.5 mil for the last 2 months combined. Also, many cards are not included on that tracker. Plus, i've heard they are still receiving quite a few cards currently. It adds up to alot of cards still during that time frame to be graded. If 7.5 million and you grade 750K per month.... that's minimally 10 months. That has nothing to do with what you receive and have received since APRIL. They have a lot to figure out. What a great problem for a business to have.
thanks Mickey, seems like a logical assessment when we are left to wonder.......
couple things that may shrink the estimate and maybe it is just wishful thinking. the 100K per day received was probably on business days which would shrink it down to 64 so maybe 6-7 million. some of those were surely higher priced subs : express, regular , super express .... was it 20% ( I was going to say 10% but there sure were a lot of regular subs from what I remember people commenting. so if that is the case the backlog is probably still around 5-5.5 million. yes some are not counted in the CTD's but from what I am seeing in the group I am in, the bulk submitters are almost inline with the CTD's . I believe the bulk submitters were included in the quotes of what was being received(the 100K a day figure) so there wouldn't be additional excess there. and finally it was quoted that 90% of the current capacity is going to the backlog.
my back of the envelope math would be 6.5M *.8 / (750k * .9) = a little less than 8 months. we can only dream!!
It had been stated on more than 1 occasion that they were receiving on average 100K cards per day from Jan-Mar. Just that would be 9 mil cards. 600K on one day during that time. It also was said they graded 1.5 mil for the last 2 months combined. Also, many cards are not included on that tracker. Plus, i've heard they are still receiving quite a few cards currently. It adds up to alot of cards still during that time frame to be graded. If 7.5 million and you grade 750K per month.... that's minimally 10 months. That has nothing to do with what you receive and have received since APRIL. They have a lot to figure out. What a great problem for a business to have.
Imagine how much plastic that requires, to create that many new slabs... in a market where it's hard to get most kinds products or raw materials. Of course we're just speculating because THE PEOPLE RUNNING PSA ARE NO LONGER POSTING UPDATES TO THE PUBLIC!! HELLLLLOOOOOO?!?!?!?!
Sorry, I'm back now. I'm just trying to politely say maybe it would be a good idea to give us (your loyal customers) an update.
Meanwhile:
Value Modern (25 Cards)
Arrived = 10/29/20
Logged = 01/25/21
Grading = 06/30/21
Assembly = not yet...
I hate to say this may be one of the subs that being held up due to additional research or something of that nature. I had a 25 card value modern that arrived 10/30/20, entered 1/26/21 and I received it back almost a month ago. It was shipped from PSA on 10/15/21 (15 days shy of a complete calendar year!)
Seeing this makes me wonder what kind of process are they using to complete these orders? Regardless of why your submission is being held up I don’t understand how my submission that was received a day later left the facility a month before yours even entered assembly….
All of the cards in my order were pretty common. No parallels, autographs or relics. I think there may have been 1 refractor but nothing special. Were any of the cards in your sub rare? Or maybe some 2020s that they hadn’t seen before.
Hope they pop soon! I have 3 orders logged in February that I certainly thought would have moved to assembly by now just based on the movement of my previous subs.
@thehallmark said:
Wednesday evening Value Modern poppage. Date "received" was 2/11/21.
1 1 54948667 GEM MINT 10 1991 Pro Set 835 John Randle
2 1 54948668 GEM MINT 10 1991 Pro Set 835 John Randle
3 1 54948669 MINT 9 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
4 1 54948670 MINT 9 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
5 1 54948671 MINT 9 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
6 1 54948672 GEM MINT 10 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
7 1 54948673 MINT 9 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
8 1 54948674 GEM MINT 10 1995 SP 147 Tony Boselli
9 1 54948675 MINT 9 1996 Bowman's Best 164 Ray Lewis
10 1 54948676 MINT 9 1996 SP 18 Marvin Harrison
11 1 54948677 MINT 9 1998 Bowman 1 Peyton Manning
12 1 54948678 MINT 9 1998 Bowman's Best 112 Peyton Manning
13 1 54948679 GEM MINT 10 2000 Bowman Chrome 178 Brian Urlacher
14 1 54948680 MINT 9 2000 Bowman Chrome 222 John Abraham Refractor
15 1 54948681 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2001 Topps Chrome 223 Steve Smith Rookie Refractor
16 1 54948682 GEM MINT 10 2003 Topps Chrome 169 Terrell Suggs
17 1 54948683 GEM MINT 10 2004 SP Authentic 146 Bob Sanders
18 1 54948684 GEM MINT 10 2006 Topps Chrome 176 Haloti Ngata
19 1 54948685 MINT 9 2006 Topps Chrome 176 Haloti Ngata
20 1 54948686 MINT 9 2006 Topps Chrome 176 Haloti Ngata
21 1 54948687 MINT 9 2015 Topps 273 Marshal Yanda
22 1 54948688 GEM MINT 10 2015 Topps 273 Marshal Yanda
I'm VERY happy with this one. Got 3/4 gems on the Ravens I needed. The Yanda in particular is a MONSTER - very tough gem there for what amounts to basically an ultra modern shiny. The two Manning 9s were properly graded and the Steve Smith would have been the one card on the order I would have predicted could get any grade - that set is just a crapshoot in my experience. Only bummer for me is the Abraham - I thought I had a 50/50 shot at a gem there and I really want a 10 for my PC.
Wow! Great results! I have a couple subs with similar cards in them. I would love to have the same grader.
@Jayman1982 said:
closest I have to report is two value subs (modern and ultra) received Mar 11 and entered Apr 22
So the received > entered gap was pretty minimal, considering. It was a two month gap when I sent in Feb. I was just wondering how much lag there was if there was a million packages that arrived, were they not entered until June.
@Cyberhawk_27 I would email with the subject line "Do I have a problem order?" and I would try a phone call as well.
@fergie23 said: My pack sub (19 1980 Topps basketball packs) is in QA2. The sub was received 22MAR, entered 14MAY, and went into grading 07OCT.
My sub shipped today (08NOV) and grades popped Friday 05NOV.
Grades were "meh" but I never figured out how PSA graded unopened packs so not a big deal. 18 of the 19 got slabbed with the best grade being a 9 and the worst a 5. I plan to sell the graded packs and will just open the one they rejected.
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So much for them grading FIFO. I have a pack order that was received on 3/16/21 and entered on 5/13/21 and is still sitting in research and id. Only 6 packs and nothing difficult.
(4) 89 Fleer Basketball packs
(2) 90 Fleer Basketball packs with Jordan on back
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I tried to have that done before shipping, but no chance. Will simply separate them from the non-stickers and send them back for re-evaluation. Someone is going to have to explain these to me. Maybe I'll send some 9's and 10's so they have some examples--maybe they don't know what one looks like?
I wish PSA would take a long look at some of their older graded cards and then they might realize they have gotten way to strict this past year.
Successful coin BST transactions with Gerard and segoja.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
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Does anyone know what happened to @blurryface ? No activity since 11/4 and I can only assume his avatar indicates a ban-hammer came down, it's not the jailbird icon I was getting used to seeing.
Did he do something ban-worthy? I didn't see anything in this thread. He's just waiting for all his orders like the rest of everyone here. 🤷🏼♂️
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Does anyone know if they have started using the AI grading mechanism? If so, I have a feeling all of the pre-89 (sans upper deck) will be receiving tougher grades moving forward.
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I'll learn soon enough if A) AI is being used at all, and if Graders indeed will have final say; and B ) If the AI system sees it as a flaw. I sent in two test cards on my recent Express sub . Both have a well known mark on the item that is manufacturer caused that to my knowledge all 5 examples that have come to light of the 24 possible have it. Highest possible grade because of it is a 9. I'll show off the item when the two new examples come back.
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How did we become so strict? I would hate to lose some of our best and most knowledgeable posters.
Successful coin BST transactions with Gerard and segoja.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
Were any of the cards in your sub rare? Or maybe some 2020s that they hadn’t seen before.
Nope, just a Ripken Topps rookie (a 7 if I'm lucky), several basic Jeter rookies and early year cards, eight super basic early 90's Jordans, and eight of those 1997 UD International stickers of Kobe Bryant. Nothing that hasn't been graded before. I would gladly accept an upcharge on any of those.
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Already told PSA the stickers are all being returned so I can have a Senior grader review these. I may be a touch older, but I've submitted 10's and 9's--dozens upon dozens of them. There's just no way...
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
All stickers being sent right back to CS for a senior grader. No way anyone with any vintage sticker experience looked at all of them.
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
Let us know the outcome. It is infuriating when stuff like this happens.
Does anyone know if they have started using the AI grading mechanism? If so, I have a feeling all of the pre-89 (sans upper deck) will be receiving tougher grades moving forward.
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David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Are you saying you called and got them to have someone else take a look at them before they are being sent back to you?
Ultra Modern just popped. My son did really well on this one. (the Kamaras and Kyler were his along with a few others)
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DATE RECEIVED
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DATE SHIPPED
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Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 54697997 MINT 9 2020 Topps 200 Christian Yelich SP Card
2 1 54697998 GEM MINT 10 2019 Topps Chrome 151 Brandon Lowe Blue Refractor Card
3 1 54697999 GEM MINT 10 2020 Topps Chrome 150 Bo Bichette Sepia Refractor Card
4 1 54698000 GEM MINT 10 2019 Topps Heritage 413 Gleyber Torres Card
5 1 54698001 GEM MINT 10 2019 Topps Heritage 481 Juan Soto Card
6 1 54698002 GEM MINT 10 2019 Topps Heritage 481 Juan Soto Card
7 1 54698003 GEM MINT 10 2020 Topps Heritage 291 Kris Bryant Action Card
8 1 54698004 GEM MINT 10 2020 Topps Heritage 308 Manny Machado Action Card
9 1 54698005 MINT 9 2020 Topps Heritage 385 Clayton Kershaw Action Card
10 1 54698006 MINT 9 2020 Topps Heritage 145 Rafael Devers Silver Card
11 1 54698007 GEM MINT 10 2020 Topps Heritage 145 Rafael Devers Action Card
12 1 54698008 GEM MINT 10 2020 Topps Heritage 403 Juan Soto Silver Card
13 1 54698009 GEM MINT 10 2020 Topps Heritage 414 Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Action Card
14 1 54698010 GEM MINT 10 2020 Topps Heritage 447 Bryce Harper Action Card
15 1 54698011 MINT 9 2020 Topps Heritage 493 Mookie Betts Action Card
16 1 54698012 MINT 9 2019 Stadium Club 88 Fernando Tatis Jr. Throwing-Red Foil Card
17 1 54698013 GEM MINT 10 2020 Finest Firsts Autographs Ffaaa Aristides Aquino Card
18 1 54698014 GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Prizm 117 Donovan Mitchell Card
19 1 54698015 MINT 9 2019 Panini Chronicles 143 Zion Williamson Pink Card
20 1 54698016 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Chronicles 165 JA Morant Green Card
21 1 54698017 GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Prizm 291 Alvin Kamara Prizm Card
22 1 54698018 GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Prizm 291 Alvin Kamara Prizm Card
23 1 54698019 GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Prizm 291 Alvin Kamara Prizm Card
24 1 54698020 MINT 9 2017 Panini Donruss Optic 199 Alvin Kamara Holo Card
25 1 54698021 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Absolute 126 Kyler Murray Card
Occasionally they will do this, I had an order of over 100 each 1987-88 Fleer Basketball, straight from a BBCE sealed box. They held the order after giving me a week timeout cause I was so pissed (Mouthed off on the Forums), over 1/2 were graded EOT. They relooked at them and Graded all 100plus, but F&%$ed on the Grades, giving most 7's and 8's, 1 MINT 9, and no 10's So they'll get you in the end! They were all cracked out and in other subs got mostly 9's and 7 each10's
YeeHawhaw!
Neil
I've noticed grades only pop after mi> @Geoff76 said:
The ones entered Feb 18 have been in Grading since late August I believe. I have a sub entered Mar 25 that hit grading around the same time, but all my April entered subs (15th, 19th, 22nd) are all still in R&I.
I tried to have that done before shipping, but no chance. Will simply separate them from the non-stickers and send them back for re-evaluation. Someone is going to have to explain these to me. Maybe I'll send some 9's and 10's so they have some examples--maybe they don't know what one looks like?
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
I feel your pain. Something is definitely screwy with the grading this year. I am not subbing anything anytime soon either. Not with the kind of grading inconsistencies I've been seeing myself. Sorry for your disappointment and good luck in the future with your collection.
I have the only set of all 9's and higher and have had at least 8 completely graded sets of these stickers. I know Eric has multiples of these and we have traded in the past on a few of these as well as I have sold a bunch of others to him. There is absolutely no way he is sending in an order that gets mostly 5's - 7's. I don't want to go so far to get booted but this is totally unacceptable. There are lots of examples of this happening but this is as cut and dry as they come in my book and no way to defend it besides lack of experience in the grading room which is creating massive inconsistencies which ultimately tarnishes the PSA brand that we all are committed too .............
Good Day,
Anybody getting Sat/Sun Poppage recently. I ask because I have my Oldest sub that moved after several months in Assembly Tues Night/Weds to QC1, then on Thurs Night/Fri it moved to QC2 where it sits! And it does have the correct CC info!
Thanks
YeeHaw!
Neil
@thedutymon11 - I have not seen any grades pop on the weekends at all.
I had an order go from QA2 to shipping yesterday (Friday) night at about midnight Chicago time. It was strange, but very welcome!
Does anyone remember when they stopped accepting quarterly specials? I would have to imagine that they would be within a month or two from finishing all of those submissions. Then they can focus more on what remains of the value submissions.
2 weeks since I made this post and I'm still in grading.
I subbed a 60's special in early April 2021. I think that was cutoff for specials.
Express order took a week to get to assembly, 2 days to QA2 and now it's been in QA2 since 11/10. Hopefully one day this week.
Yes, that special ended in March. From what I'm hearing and seeing with numbers.....that has minimally another year to completion. OUCH.
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Overnight Poppage, The really Bad, Ugly and a few bright spots! The 1965 Rosan Blue Monster Non Sport Card set has only about 540 Graded Cards, of which about 250-300 have been subbed by me. This set I send should have garnered at least 2-6 MINT 9's.
Still overall not terrible, terrible, but not Great by any means. The first #1-5 in 8's are awesome, and #1 & #2 are Highest Graded, Pop 1, and many others are highest Graded, Pop1 or 2! Still way too many EX-MT 6's.
1 1 53505518 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 1 Now Where Was I? Card
2 1 53505519 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 2 Curse of the Faceless Man Card
3 1 53505520 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 3 Gets Me Right Here Card
4 1 53505521 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 4 Bride and the Beast Card
5 1 53505522 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 5 Gramma Will Get You A Cookie Card
6 1 53505523 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 6 Somebody Done This Card
7 1 53505524 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 7 Angry Red Planet Card
8 1 53505525 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 8 Invasion of Saucermen Card
9 1 53505526 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 9 the Golem Card
10 1 53505527 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 10 Haunted Stranger Card
11 1 53505528 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 11 Look MA--No Feet Card
12 1 53505529 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 12 I Smoke Filter Tips Card
13 1 53505530 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 13 Who's A Cabbagehead? Card
14 1 53505531 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 14 the Mysterians Card
15 1 53505532 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 15 You're Cute Too Card
16 1 53505533 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 16 You're Not My Mummy Card
17 1 53505534 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 17 Curse of the Mummy Card
18 1 53505535 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 18 Like Man I'm Tired Card
19 1 53505536 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 19 Fiend Without A Face Card
20 1 53505537 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 20 Speak Up, Boy! Card
21 1 53505538 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 21 Mad Soul Card
22 1 53505539 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 22 Hunchback of Notre Dame Card
23 1 53505540 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 23 Here Kitty Kitty! Card
24 1 53505541 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 24 Phantom of the Opera Card
25 1 53505542 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 25 Hideous Sun Demon Card
26 1 53505543 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 26 It's Only the Avon Lady! Card
27 1 53505544 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 27 Jack the Ripper Card
28 1 53505545 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 28 Look, PA-- No Cavities Card
29 1 53505546 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 29 the Savage Eye Card
30 1 53505547 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 30 Really, Old Chap Card
31 1 53505548 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 32 the Deadly Mantis Card
32 1 53505549 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 33 Brain From Planet Arous Card
33 1 53505550 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 34 Don't You Dare Touch Me! Card
34 1 53505551 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 35 13 Ghosts Card
35 1 53505552 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 36 the Mutant Card
36 1 53505553 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 37 Rodan Card
37 1 53505554 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 38 From Tarantula Card
38 1 53505555 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 39 House of Wax Card
39 1 53505556 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 40 the Tingler Card
40 1 53505557 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 41 Find It Fast in the Yellow Pages Card
41 1 53505558 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 42 I'm Starved Card
42 1 53505559 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 43 Queen of Outer Space Card
43 1 53505560 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 44 Wanna Rassle? Card
44 1 53505561 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 45 Guess Who's Winning? Card
45 1 53505562 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 46 the Blob Card
46 1 53505563 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 47 Hold Still, Now.. Card
47 1 53505564 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 48 You Ain't So Cute Either! Card
48 1 53505565 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 49 Cool It, Man-- Card
49 1 53505566 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 50 You'Ve Got Bad Breath Card
50 1 53505567 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 51 Outer Space Card
51 1 53505568 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1965 Monster Cards 52 Squares Dancing Card
52 1 53505569 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 53 Attack of the Green Leeches Card
53 1 53505570 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 54 I Like Kides (Well Done) Card
54 1 53505571 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 56 Sinbad the Sailor Card
55 1 53505572 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 57 I Need Vitamins Card
56 1 53505573 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 58 Too Much Pizza, Mom! Card
57 1 53505574 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 59 Fly Now--Pay Later Card
58 1 53505575 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 60 I'm Going Batty!! Card
59 1 53505576 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 61 Meanwhile, Back at the Swamp Card
60 1 53505577 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 62 Monster From Green Hell Card
61 1 53505578 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 63 I'm Getting Sick! Card
62 1 53505579 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 64 "Cheese" Card
63 1 53505580 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 65 Strange Earthling Card
64 1 53505581 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 66 You're My Boy Card
65 1 53505582 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 67 the Electronic Monster Card
66 1 53505583 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 68 I'll Carve the Turkey Card
67 1 53505584 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 69 Terror From the Year 5000 Card
68 1 53505585 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 70 Dig That Crazy Grasshopper!!! Card
69 1 53505586 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 71 Where's That Ddt?! Card
70 1 53505587 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 72 Do I Know You? Card
71 1 53505588 EXCELLENT 5 1965 Monster Cards 73 That's One Way to Get Ahead Card
72 1 53505589 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 74 Return of the Vampire Card
73 1 53505590 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 75 Monster on the Campus Card
74 1 53505591 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 76 Shall We Dance? Card
75 1 53505592 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 77 I Smoke Marijuana Card
76 1 53505593 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 78 Satan Satellites Card
77 1 53505594 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 79 the Undead Card
78 1 53505595 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 80 From Hell It Came Card
79 1 53505596 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 81 Blood of Dracula Card
80 1 53505597 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 82 Will It Hurt, Doc? Naw, I'm Just... Card
81 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1965 Monster Cards 83 AW, Let's Be Friends Card
82 1 53505599 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Monster Cards 84 Sure Beats Stamp Collection Card
87 1 53505604 NEAR MINT 7 1965 Monster Cards 55 House of Haunted Hill Card
88 1 53505605 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 Monster Cards 31 I Hate Milk Card
YeeHaw!
Have a Great Day!
Neil
These packs moved to QA1 sometime in the last day or two.
wondering if you could elaborate more where minimum of another year is what you are hearing?
currently outside of TCG they are pretty much into February entries for completion. if everything was entered by the end of May, then there are about 4 months of entered orders to go on the backlog. not saying it isn't possible or you are wrong but curious because it looks like progress is being made.
It’s to bad we are left guessing at how many cards they still have piled up. I know that there were a ton of cards submitted before they were shut down. Their progress has definitely slowed lately now that they are getting to submissions that they received at the beginning of the year or end of last year. Unless there are more changes, I could definitely see cards received in April not being back in hand until this time next year. Especially if they open up other sub levels before the then. Again who really knows?
Express Order arrived 11/1, entered 11/2 and grades popped 11/16.
I heard that Nat hinted to opening up another service level within the next couple of weeks. I would assume that will be "regular" and $100 but that purely speculation based on where things ended up. My last regular submission was 6 months, arrived in Feb, entered in April, grades in August. I have to believe that they aren't even into the meat of the surge of cards they received. I think Feb-April was a total onslaught of cards. Curious if anyone has anything (not qtrly special) received end of March or early April and when it was actually entered.
Does anyone know what happened to @blurryface ? No activity since 11/4 and I can only assume his avatar indicates a ban-hammer came down, it's not the jailbird icon I was getting used to seeing.
I miss the good old days of being aggravated when they went from a 45 day turnaround time to 65 day turnaround time.
@nam812 I remember being aggravated when it actually took 45 days. Looking back at some of my old orders, regular was 6 days entered to shipped. A modern special was 8 days, I even had a 300+ card bulk order that was done in under 2 months. Of course those were the days when you could negotiate a $4/card fee too.
Did he do something ban-worthy? I didn't see anything in this thread. He's just waiting for all his orders like the rest of everyone here. 🤷🏼♂️
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Him and Flux are in separate corners of the same high end collector cell block. Enough said on that subject. Newtons rings thread. Go look it up
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I'll learn soon enough if A) AI is being used at all, and if Graders indeed will have final say; and B ) If the AI system sees it as a flaw. I sent in two test cards on my recent Express sub . Both have a well known mark on the item that is manufacturer caused that to my knowledge all 5 examples that have come to light of the 24 possible have it. Highest possible grade because of it is a 9. I'll show off the item when the two new examples come back.
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It had been stated on more than 1 occasion that they were receiving on average 100K cards per day from Jan-Mar. Just that would be 9 mil cards. 600K on one day during that time. It also was said they graded 1.5 mil for the last 2 months combined. Also, many cards are not included on that tracker. Plus, i've heard they are still receiving quite a few cards currently. It adds up to alot of cards still during that time frame to be graded. If 7.5 million and you grade 750K per month.... that's minimally 10 months. That has nothing to do with what you receive and have received since APRIL. They have a lot to figure out. What a great problem for a business to have.
I have reached a full year for one of my subs and it is still in grading. Arrived 11/9/20 and logged 1/29/21, can't remember when it went in to grading but it's been quite a while. Anybody have that beat?
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closest I have to report is two value subs (modern and ultra) received Mar 11 and entered Apr 22
My longest arrived 12/14...entered 2/18.
A January logged sub still in grading sucks for me to hear (I have 2 mid Feb. logs in grading) as I thought mine would be moving to assembly soon.
What was it Jason? Value modern? Value ultra modern? Other?
Imagine how much plastic that requires, to create that many new slabs... in a market where it's hard to get most kinds products or raw materials. Of course we're just speculating because THE PEOPLE RUNNING PSA ARE NO LONGER POSTING UPDATES TO THE PUBLIC!! HELLLLLOOOOOO?!?!?!?!
Sorry, I'm back now. I'm just trying to politely say maybe it would be a good idea to give us (your loyal customers) an update.
Meanwhile:
Value Modern (25 Cards)
Arrived = 10/29/20
Logged = 01/25/21
Grading = 06/30/21
Assembly = not yet...
FYI for pack submitters, from QA1 to QA 2 in a couple of days. Hoping poppage in another few days.
a few weeks back, my packs went from assembly to QA2 in 7 hours time. Then they sat a QA2 for 6 or 7 days.
Wednesday evening Value Modern poppage. Date "received" was 2/11/21.
1 1 54948667 GEM MINT 10 1991 Pro Set 835 John Randle
2 1 54948668 GEM MINT 10 1991 Pro Set 835 John Randle
3 1 54948669 MINT 9 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
4 1 54948670 MINT 9 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
5 1 54948671 MINT 9 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
6 1 54948672 GEM MINT 10 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
7 1 54948673 MINT 9 1994 Playoff 300 Larry Allen
8 1 54948674 GEM MINT 10 1995 SP 147 Tony Boselli
9 1 54948675 MINT 9 1996 Bowman's Best 164 Ray Lewis
10 1 54948676 MINT 9 1996 SP 18 Marvin Harrison
11 1 54948677 MINT 9 1998 Bowman 1 Peyton Manning
12 1 54948678 MINT 9 1998 Bowman's Best 112 Peyton Manning
13 1 54948679 GEM MINT 10 2000 Bowman Chrome 178 Brian Urlacher
14 1 54948680 MINT 9 2000 Bowman Chrome 222 John Abraham Refractor
15 1 54948681 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2001 Topps Chrome 223 Steve Smith Rookie Refractor
16 1 54948682 GEM MINT 10 2003 Topps Chrome 169 Terrell Suggs
17 1 54948683 GEM MINT 10 2004 SP Authentic 146 Bob Sanders
18 1 54948684 GEM MINT 10 2006 Topps Chrome 176 Haloti Ngata
19 1 54948685 MINT 9 2006 Topps Chrome 176 Haloti Ngata
20 1 54948686 MINT 9 2006 Topps Chrome 176 Haloti Ngata
21 1 54948687 MINT 9 2015 Topps 273 Marshal Yanda
22 1 54948688 GEM MINT 10 2015 Topps 273 Marshal Yanda
I'm VERY happy with this one. Got 3/4 gems on the Ravens I needed. The Yanda in particular is a MONSTER - very tough gem there for what amounts to basically an ultra modern shiny. The two Manning 9s were properly graded and the Steve Smith would have been the one card on the order I would have predicted could get any grade - that set is just a crapshoot in my experience. Only bummer for me is the Abraham - I thought I had a 50/50 shot at a gem there and I really want a 10 for my PC.
It's a grade add on for a few PSA/DNA slabs. I feel like Willem Dafoe in Platoon
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@thehallmark would one of those Randles and Allen’s be for sale?
thanks Mickey, seems like a logical assessment when we are left to wonder.......
couple things that may shrink the estimate and maybe it is just wishful thinking. the 100K per day received was probably on business days which would shrink it down to 64 so maybe 6-7 million. some of those were surely higher priced subs : express, regular , super express .... was it 20% ( I was going to say 10% but there sure were a lot of regular subs from what I remember people commenting. so if that is the case the backlog is probably still around 5-5.5 million. yes some are not counted in the CTD's but from what I am seeing in the group I am in, the bulk submitters are almost inline with the CTD's . I believe the bulk submitters were included in the quotes of what was being received(the 100K a day figure) so there wouldn't be additional excess there. and finally it was quoted that 90% of the current capacity is going to the backlog.
my back of the envelope math would be 6.5M *.8 / (750k * .9) = a little less than 8 months. we can only dream!!
I hate to say this may be one of the subs that being held up due to additional research or something of that nature. I had a 25 card value modern that arrived 10/30/20, entered 1/26/21 and I received it back almost a month ago. It was shipped from PSA on 10/15/21 (15 days shy of a complete calendar year!)
Seeing this makes me wonder what kind of process are they using to complete these orders? Regardless of why your submission is being held up I don’t understand how my submission that was received a day later left the facility a month before yours even entered assembly….
All of the cards in my order were pretty common. No parallels, autographs or relics. I think there may have been 1 refractor but nothing special. Were any of the cards in your sub rare? Or maybe some 2020s that they hadn’t seen before.
Hope they pop soon! I have 3 orders logged in February that I certainly thought would have moved to assembly by now just based on the movement of my previous subs.
Wow! Great results! I have a couple subs with similar cards in them. I would love to have the same grader.
I'm worried this morning. The CTD for modern is January 14th but my entered date is January 13th.
May be time for a friendly phone call.🙂
So the received > entered gap was pretty minimal, considering. It was a two month gap when I sent in Feb. I was just wondering how much lag there was if there was a million packages that arrived, were they not entered until June.
@Cyberhawk_27 I would email with the subject line "Do I have a problem order?" and I would try a phone call as well.
So much for them grading FIFO. I have a pack order that was received on 3/16/21 and entered on 5/13/21 and is still sitting in research and id. Only 6 packs and nothing difficult.
(4) 89 Fleer Basketball packs
(2) 90 Fleer Basketball packs with Jordan on back
I wish PSA would take a long look at some of their older graded cards and then they might realize they have gotten way to strict this past year.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
How did we become so strict? I would hate to lose some of our best and most knowledgeable posters.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
Were any of the cards in your sub rare? Or maybe some 2020s that they hadn’t seen before.
Nope, just a Ripken Topps rookie (a 7 if I'm lucky), several basic Jeter rookies and early year cards, eight super basic early 90's Jordans, and eight of those 1997 UD International stickers of Kobe Bryant. Nothing that hasn't been graded before. I would gladly accept an upcharge on any of those.