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  • ejguruejguru Posts: 618 ✭✭✭

    Some movement to report...
    37 card value vintage arrived 11/24/20, received 2/9/21, grading mid-August, moved into Assembly 10/14; TODAY QA1.
    44 card value moderns with same exact dates through the system, synchronized; Assembly 10/14; TODAY QA 1.

    "...life is but a dream."

    Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
  • Jayman1982Jayman1982 Posts: 467 ✭✭✭
    edited October 27, 2021 11:46AM

    @chuckman said:
    I was just looking at my dates and the date the hold was issued on modern value. 30 Mar 21 they said no more cards. At that time CTD was 20 Jul 20...8 months backlog. Today, 26 Oct, the CTD 7 Jan 21...9 1/2 months. How do you fall back a month and a half when you have not received anything in 7 months. This is absurd.

    Because at that time they were working through months that received significantly less cards than Jan/Feb/Mar, which they are just getting into the meat of now.

    CTDs are only going to get worse as they get into Feb/Mar (received, not entered) grading where they saw an all time high # of submissions.

    Sit tight, it's going to get slower before it gets faster.

  • Jayman1982Jayman1982 Posts: 467 ✭✭✭

    @MarshallFaulk28 said:
    I just noticed my membership expiration rolled forward again. It was December and is now moved all the way until June. I guess we must not be close to re-opening?

    Mine went to Aug 18 2022 a couple weeks back, I don't think that date means anything solid

  • parthur1607parthur1607 Posts: 202 ✭✭✭

    @chuckman said:
    Wow, one of my orders went from Assembly to QA2 today in 7 hours time. I am dumbfounded. :)

    What was the entered date on this order?

  • @parthur1607 said:

    @chuckman said:
    Wow, one of my orders went from Assembly to QA2 today in 7 hours time. I am dumbfounded. :)

    What was the entered date on this order?

    Arrived 02/23/21, entered 05/10/21. It's 5 packs of 1987 Fleer B-Ball.

  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭

    My oldest order has been in Assembly for over a month. It's just 65 junk era basketball cards. What could possibly be holding up the assembly?!?

  • FrozencaribouFrozencaribou Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thehallmark said:
    My oldest order has been in Assembly for over a month. It's just 65 junk era basketball cards. What could possibly be holding up the assembly?!?

    I'm in the same situation. My oldest value modern sub arrived at PSA on 11/20/20 and was entered on 2/9/21. It went to grading on 8/1/21 and now has been in assembly for 3 weeks. From what I am hearing here, my order has a long way to go yet.

    Nathanael

  • thedutymon11thedutymon11 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭✭

    Good Day,

    I have 2 orders that have been in Assembly for going on two months. Both received in early Oct 2020 and Logged in in Jan!

    Sheesh!!!!!

    YeeHaw!

    Neil

  • envoy982envoy982 Posts: 371 ✭✭✭

    How long are express orders taking? I see the CTD is about 5-1/2 weeks behind but wasn't sure if that was the expected turnaround right now.

  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,949 ✭✭✭✭

    @thedutymon11 said:
    Good Day,

    I have 2 orders that have been in Assembly for going on two months. Both received in early Oct 2020 and Logged in in Jan!

    Sheesh!!!!!

    YeeHaw!

    Neil

    Wow...

  • tkerstingtkersting Posts: 136 ✭✭✭

    For reference I sent in a pack order that arrived on 3/17, was entered on 5/13 and went to grading yesterday.

  • StatsGuyStatsGuy Posts: 100 ✭✭✭

    @tkersting said:
    For reference I sent in a pack order that arrived on 3/17, was entered on 5/13 and went to grading yesterday.

    Mine have the same dates as yours (actually 3/16 arrivals entered 5/13) still in research. One sub is 1 cello, that I paid extra - regular.(The other order has 5 cellos)

    Gretzky,Ripken, and Sandberg collection. Still trying to complete 1975 Topps baseball set from when I was a kid.

  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭
    edited October 28, 2021 5:59PM

    VALUE MODERN
    RECEIVED - 12/13/20
    ENTERED - 01/27/21
    GRADES - 10/28/21

    GEM MINT 10 2008 FLEER 204 RUSSELL WESTBROOK
    MINT 9 2009 BOWMAN '48 55 RUSSELL WESTBROOK BLUE
    GEM MINT 10 2009 PANINI PRESTIGE 230 STEPHEN CURRY
    GEM MINT 10 2009 PANINI PRESTIGE 157 STEPHEN CURRY
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2008 UPPER DECK RADIANCE 23 MICHAEL JORDAN
    MINT 9 2007 FLEER 212 KEVIN DURANT GLOSSY
    MINT 9 2006 UPPER DECK REFLECTIONS 14 MICHAEL JORDAN
    MINT 9 2012 PANINI PAST & PRESENT 237 ANTHONY DAVIS
    GEM MINT 10 2007 FINEST 71 KEVIN DURANT
    GEM MINT 10 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 23 KLAY THOMPSON
    GEM MINT 10 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 23 KLAY THOMPSON
    MINT 9 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 23 KLAY THOMPSON
    GEM MINT 10 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 27 KAWHI LEONARD
    GEM MINT 10 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 27 KAWHI LEONARD
    MINT 9 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 27 KAWHI LEONARD
    GEM MINT 10 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 27 KAWHI LEONARD
    MINT 9 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 27 KAWHI LEONARD
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2009 DONRUSS ELITE PRIME TARGETS 2 KOBE BRYANT GOLD
    MINT 9 2008 UPPER DECK PREMIER PREMIER REMNANTS TRIPLE PR3KB KOBE BRYANT POSITION
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2012 PANINI PAST & PRESENT WINNING TOUCH BANNERS 3 KOBE BRYANT



    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • FluxFlux Posts: 149 ✭✭

    @thedutymon11 said:
    Good Day,

    I have 2 orders that have been in Assembly for going on two months. Both received in early Oct 2020 and Logged in in Jan!

    Sheesh!!!!!

    YeeHaw!

    Neil

    Do not feel too bad. I have a Single 100 count card order. Arrived early October, logged in 1.12.2021 and has been in grading for months. If I still have Assembly for 60 days that puts me in the 2022 realm. Arrived to PSA in 2020 and not back until 2022.

  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ldferg said:
    VALUE MODERN
    RECEIVED - 12/13/20
    ENTERED - 01/27/21
    GRADES - 10/28/21

    GEM MINT 10 2008 FLEER 204 RUSSELL WESTBROOK
    MINT 9 2009 BOWMAN '48 55 RUSSELL WESTBROOK BLUE
    GEM MINT 10 2009 PANINI PRESTIGE 230 STEPHEN CURRY
    GEM MINT 10 2009 PANINI PRESTIGE 157 STEPHEN CURRY
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2008 UPPER DECK RADIANCE 23 MICHAEL JORDAN
    MINT 9 2007 FLEER 212 KEVIN DURANT GLOSSY
    MINT 9 2006 UPPER DECK REFLECTIONS 14 MICHAEL JORDAN
    MINT 9 2012 PANINI PAST & PRESENT 237 ANTHONY DAVIS
    GEM MINT 10 2007 FINEST 71 KEVIN DURANT
    GEM MINT 10 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 23 KLAY THOMPSON
    GEM MINT 10 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 23 KLAY THOMPSON
    MINT 9 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 23 KLAY THOMPSON
    GEM MINT 10 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 27 KAWHI LEONARD
    GEM MINT 10 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 27 KAWHI LEONARD
    MINT 9 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 27 KAWHI LEONARD
    GEM MINT 10 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 27 KAWHI LEONARD
    MINT 9 2011 SP AUTHENTIC 27 KAWHI LEONARD
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2009 DONRUSS ELITE PRIME TARGETS 2 KOBE BRYANT GOLD
    MINT 9 2008 UPPER DECK PREMIER PREMIER REMNANTS TRIPLE PR3KB KOBE BRYANT POSITION
    NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2012 PANINI PAST & PRESENT WINNING TOUCH BANNERS 3 KOBE BRYANT

    2 nice Curry hits!

    Looking for FB HOF Rookies
  • thedutymon11thedutymon11 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭✭

    @Flux said:

    @thedutymon11 said:
    Good Day,

    I have 2 orders that have been in Assembly for going on two months. Both received in early Oct 2020 and Logged in in Jan!

    Sheesh!!!!!

    YeeHaw!

    Neil

    Do not feel too bad. I have a Single 100 count card order. Arrived early October, logged in 1.12.2021 and has been in grading for months. If I still have Assembly for 60 days that puts me in the 2022 realm. Arrived to PSA in 2020 and not back until 2022.

    Its almost beyond words to know what to say to that....Just disappointment! The 7 subs I have with PSA currently, once they play out, I'm done with PSA for good! Wish you all the best!

    YeeHaw!

    Neil

  • StatsGuyStatsGuy Posts: 100 ✭✭✭

    @StatsGuy said:

    @tkersting said:
    For reference I sent in a pack order that arrived on 3/17, was entered on 5/13 and went to grading yesterday.

    Mine have the same dates as yours (actually 3/16 arrivals entered 5/13) still in research. One sub is 1 cello, that I paid extra - regular.(The other order has 5 cellos)

    Update: The one cello went to grading today

    Gretzky,Ripken, and Sandberg collection. Still trying to complete 1975 Topps baseball set from when I was a kid.

  • Jayman1982Jayman1982 Posts: 467 ✭✭✭

    Exactly one year from being received it was shipped, cool?

    62 card Ultra Modern Value:

    received 10/29/20
    entered 01/25/21
    shipped 10/29/21

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    where is the ctd guy that would post updates? and im not asking facetiously. would really like to see a side by side chart from then vs now. forget his name but had the carrot top looking avatar. i never paid too much attention to those graphs or dates bc they didnt factor in all of the data such as group subs.

    anyways, how are those projected dates looking now vs. then? have to be way off. felt like the villian and debbie downer when saying it was gonna be well over a year when the random stragglers came in asking about eta return dates. knowing they submitted during the height of the mayhem it was impossible for it not to take 12+ months.

  • envoy982envoy982 Posts: 371 ✭✭✭

    @blurryface I have been tracking since the beginning. What would you like to see?

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @envoy982 said:
    @blurryface I have been tracking since the beginning. What would you like to see?

    eta dates from say two months ago to today. have they moved at all? gone way backwards or what? i am in the same boat as most. have a sub logged 1/04 and still in grading. and 70+ more on top of that. w a majority just hitting grading the past week or so.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @envoy982 and i know you, you were not carrot top, btw! 😉

  • envoy982envoy982 Posts: 371 ✭✭✭

    @blurryface you are thinking of @OneDaysRide, he had the nice looking chart. haven't seen him around in a while, maybe he got all of his cards returned and isn't plodding along like the rest of us anymore.

    Here is what I have for dates roughly by-month and today:

  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭✭

    @envoy982 said:
    @blurryface you are thinking of @OneDaysRide, he had the nice looking chart. haven't seen him around in a while, maybe he got all of his cards returned and isn't plodding along like the rest of us anymore.

    Here is what I have for dates roughly by-month and today:

    Those are what is referred to as "ENTERED" dates ????? Why did they get rid of the word LOGGED. I'm getting old and like the old verbage. LOL.

  • envoy982envoy982 Posts: 371 ✭✭✭

    @mickey71 It is all an effort to obfuscate and confuse! lol

    What I shared above are the complete through dates on the page that I check (almost) every day. The "entered" dates are what these work with. So the "Arrived" date is the day they say they got your package. The "Entered" date is the day the (now-obsolete) clock started. So technically if you had a service level with an entered date close to the CTD date you'd expect to see grades very soon. Some orders are way ahead of this of course. I think my voucher order was shipped on 4/29. My entered date was mid-september but CTD was 9/8 so they were a little ahead. The same was true for my regular order; shipped 8/6 when CTD showed 3/30 but my entered date was 4/9.

  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭✭

    @envoy982 said:
    @mickey71 It is all an effort to obfuscate and confuse! lol

    What I shared above are the complete through dates on the page that I check (almost) every day. The "entered" dates are what these work with. So the "Arrived" date is the day they say they got your package. The "Entered" date is the day the (now-obsolete) clock started. So technically if you had a service level with an entered date close to the CTD date you'd expect to see grades very soon. Some orders are way ahead of this of course. I think my voucher order was shipped on 4/29. My entered date was mid-september but CTD was 9/8 so they were a little ahead. The same was true for my regular order; shipped 8/6 when CTD showed 3/30 but my entered date was 4/9.

    It looks like REHOLDERS are in hell.

  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭✭

    Do we all think that they also run out of holders regularly??? I'm thinking that is maybe a regular problem ??

  • envoy982envoy982 Posts: 371 ✭✭✭

    @mickey71 No kidding! Can you imagine waiting months to get your cards back and when you finally do the label is wrong or case is cracked and now it's been sitting there for another 10+ months? I would be livid.

  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭✭

    @envoy982 said:
    @mickey71 No kidding! Can you imagine waiting months to get your cards back and when you finally do the label is wrong or case is cracked and now it's been sitting there for another 10+ months? I would be livid.

    Remember those are entered dates. If received is 2-3 months before that then REHOLDERS take more than a year. November is in a few days

  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭✭

    It's all out of hand and the prices keep going up.

  • envoy982envoy982 Posts: 371 ✭✭✭

    My ultra modern sub entered 4/7/21 just moved into grading.

  • FluxFlux Posts: 149 ✭✭

    Thank you guys for some collaborative information.

  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blurryface said:
    @envoy982 and i know you, you were not carrot top, btw! 😉

    Maxheadroom looking dude.

    Looking for FB HOF Rookies
  • After 400+ days at PSA I finally had one of my oldest subs pop. Four card dual grading - grade add on sub.

    Arrived: 8/21/2020
    Entered: 10/21/2020
    Shipped: 10/27/2021

    I still have two more similar grade add on orders in the pipeline. One is stuck in QA2 (22 cards) and the other is still in grading (31 cards). This service level is not listed on the CTD. So hopefully this info helps others who may have cards at PSA for this service.


  • This is a value ultra modern order and it went into grading on Tuesday… how long do you think the grading step will take?

  • envoy982envoy982 Posts: 371 ✭✭✭

    @brodythecollector 3-6 months is my guess.

  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,583 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @brodythecollector said:
    This is a value ultra modern order and it went into grading on Tuesday… how long do you think the grading step will take?

    My value ultra modern that was entered on 2/17/21 went into grading just over 9 weeks ago (8/25/21) and is still in grading. Your mileage may vary.

  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nick - my timing is about the same as yours:

    Value Vintage - arrived 12/21, entered 2/22, grading 8/13 - no movement since
    Value TCG - arrived 12/21, entered 2/22, grading 8/15 - no movement since

    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • @envoy982 @nam812 thanks y’all 🙏🏻

  • First Order finally popped today. These were mailed on 18 Feb 21

    Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
    1 1 62076085 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Fleer Basketball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
    2 1 62076086 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Fleer Basketball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
    3 1 62076087 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Fleer Basketball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
    4 1 62076088 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer Basketball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack
    5 1 62076089 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Fleer Basketball Wax Pack Wax Pack Pack

    Now the dreaded wait for the other order of 100 cards...still in grading.

  • Oops, meant to post this also...

    Order # Submission # Arrived Entered Shipped Status Items Service
    22306605 10552754 02/23/21 05/10/21 N/A See Details 5 1972 - Present (Packs)
    22213459 10548876 02/23/21 04/02/21 N/A See Details 99 Value Modern (1972- 2017)

  • ejguruejguru Posts: 618 ✭✭✭

    Good to see an April entry already IN GRADING!

    "...life is but a dream."

    Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
  • Yea, they have been in grading for a while now, but based on what I seen people posting, I don't think I have a chance of seeing them until 1st QTR of 2022. And that sucks as I will miss the Christmas sales.

  • tkerstingtkersting Posts: 136 ✭✭✭

    @tkersting said:
    For reference I sent in a pack order that arrived on 3/17, was entered on 5/13 and went to grading yesterday.

    These packs moved to assembly for me when I checked today.

  • thedutymon11thedutymon11 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭✭

    @ejguru said:
    Good to see an April entry already IN GRADING!

    Is That April of last year or this? :s I have 9 subs (Logged In, Not just Received, Logged In!), all in before April of 2021 (Try Several in Jan/Feb) and not one has Popped, 2 have been in ASSM for Months, and at least 3 more in Grading for Two months+.

    I guess I just don't get this whole Thread, as All my Subs seem to be Outliers!

    Sheesh

    YeeHaw!

    Neil

  • envoy982envoy982 Posts: 371 ✭✭✭

    @thedutymon11 - I don't think anyone has had a sub pop that was logged/entered in April, those subs are just now hitting grading. Those have another 3-6 months before I would even start to wonder about grades actually popping. Being in "assembly for months" seems crazy to me. I don't think I've seen that long of a wait, that seems odd. That is technically further along though.

  • bowman54bowman54 Posts: 118 ✭✭

    I have had a 120 card sub sent in just before the shutdown, entered May 10th, and has been in grading since mid June.

  • Jayman1982Jayman1982 Posts: 467 ✭✭✭

    @bowman54 said:
    I have had a 120 card sub sent in just before the shutdown, entered May 10th, and has been in grading since mid June.

    There's no rhyme or reason to when orders hit certain stages, or how they sit there for months and months. The only somewhat accurate dates to follow are the CTD and % Monthly Completion rates.

  • fergie23fergie23 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭✭

    My pack sub (19 1980 Topps basketball packs) is in QA2. The sub was received 22MAR, entered 14MAY, and went into grading 07OCT. I figured I had months to go but after seeing tkersting post figured I would check the status, pleasantly surprised.

    I have had the packs for years (was slowly building towards making a full 36 pack box), so them being at PSA for 7-8 months didn't really impact me one way or the other. With pack & box prices so high for 1980 T basketball, I figured I would never complete my full box project and decided to get them graded and then sell them.

    Robb

  • Bottom order if modern and top order is vintage. Modern CTD is January 10th. That should be close.
    Both are still in grading

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