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    76collector76collector Posts: 986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MarshallFaulk28 said:
    That could be. I'm not seeing any obvious ding or wrinkle, but the card may not be flat. It's super hard to tell in the holder, but the top edge look angled as if the card may be slightly warped.

    It's very frustrating when you find some great cards to submit and have them come back with grades like that Jordan. Believe me, I've been there. All you can do is just keep it and enjoy the card, and disregard the grade. That's a great looking card IMO.

    Jeff

    I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid.
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    beachbumcollectingbeachbumcollecting Posts: 461 ✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2021 7:37AM

    one thing that I think is more prevalent these days are "phantom" back wrinkles. This is probably more applicable to vintage paper than 1989 hoops but I have a bunch of bowman's that were previously much higher graded (7's and 8's)and they came back in psa 3-5's. My only conclusion that I could find was that if that back was not completely smooth it was being interpreted as wrinkles or paper damage.

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    handymanhandyman Posts: 5,250 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if so the warp may have caused a wrinkle that is hard to see.

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    CzoneCzone Posts: 17 ✭✭
    edited September 29, 2021 2:21PM

    60 Card Modern Value

    60
    DATE RECEIVED
    1/18/2021
    DATE SHIPPED
    N/A
    Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
    1 1 53867423 GEM MINT 10 2011 Rittenhouse Archives WNBA Autographs Courtney Vandersloot Card
    2 1 53867424 GEM MINT 10 2011 Rittenhouse Archives WNBA Autographs Courtney Vandersloot Card
    3 1 53867425 GEM MINT 10 1992 Topps Archives 150 Shaquille O'Neal Gold Card
    4 1 53867426 GEM MINT 10 2006 Topps 123 LeBron James Gold Card
    5 1 53867427 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1979 Topps 60 Pete Maravich Card
    6 1 53867428 NEAR MINT 7 1979 Topps 84 Terry Tyler Card
    7 1 53867429 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 Topps 20 Julius Erving Card
    8 1 53867430 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 Topps 10 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Card
    9 1 53867431 NEAR MINT 7 1979 Topps 1 George Gervin Card
    10 1 53867432 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1979 Topps 31 Alex English Card
    11 1 53867433 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 110 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Card
    12 1 53867434 MINT 9 1988 Fleer 124 Larry Bird All-Star Card
    13 1 53867435 MINT 9 2007 Topps 112 Kevin Durant 1957-58 Variation Card
    14 1 53867436 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Fleer 77 Chris Mullin Card
    15 1 53867437 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer 31 Julius Erving Card
    16 1 53867438 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer 16 Maurice Cheeks Card
    17 1 53867439 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer 12 Manute Bol Card
    18 1 53867440 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer 4 Danny Ainge Card
    19 1 53867441 MINT 9 1986 Fleer 3 Mark Aguirre Card
    20 1 53867442 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer 120 Spud Webb Card
    21 1 53867443 MINT 9 1988 Fleer 9 Larry Bird Card
    22 1 53867444 MINT 9 1988 Fleer 67 Magic Johnson Card
    23 1 53867445 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 AW Sports Boxing 69 Muhammad Ali Card
    24 1 53867446 MINT 9 1980 Topps 393 Ozzie Smith Card
    25 1 53867447 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1972 Topps 110 John Havlicek Card
    26 1 53867448 MINT 9 1972 Topps 110 John Havlicek Card
    27 1 53867449 NEAR MINT 7 1972 Topps 180 Artis Gilmore Card
    28 1 53867450 MINT 9 2002 Topps 248 Tom Brady Collection Card
    29 1 53867451 MINT 9 2002 Topps 295 Tom Brady Collection Card
    30 1 53867452 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 34 Stephen Curry Card
    31 1 53867453 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 34 Stephen Curry Card
    32 1 53867454 MINT 9 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 34 Stephen Curry Card
    33 1 53867455 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 34 Stephen Curry Card
    34 1 53867456 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 40 James Harden Card
    35 1 53867457 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 40 James Harden Card
    36 1 53867458 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 40 James Harden Card
    37 1 53867459 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 40 James Harden Card
    38 1 53867460 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 40 James Harden Card
    39 1 53867461 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition Draft Class D-Chh Gerald Henderson/James Harden/Stephen Curry Card
    40 1 53867462 GEM MINT 10 2009 Panini Prestige 203 James Harden Card
    41 1 53867463 MINT 9 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition Tournament Titans TT-SC Stephen Curry Card
    42 1 53867464 MINT 9 1988 Fleer 126 Akeem Olajuwon All-Star Card
    43 1 53867465 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Fleer 115 John Stockton Card
    44 1 53867466 NEAR MINT 7 1988 Fleer 57 Reggie Miller Card
    45 1 53867467 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2008 Topps Chrome 11 Yao Ming Refractor Card
    46 1 53867468 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer 35 Julius Erving Card
    47 1 53867469 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer 35 Julius Erving Card
    48 1 53867470 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer 35 Julius Erving Card
    49 1 53867471 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1972 Topps 263 Aba Rebound Leaders Gilmore/Erving/Daniels Card
    50 1 53867472 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Upper Deck 1B Shaquille O'Neal Trade Card Card
    51 1 53867473 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Upper Deck 1B Shaquille O'Neal Trade Card Card
    52 1 53867474 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Upper Deck 1B Shaquille O'Neal Trade Card Card
    53 1 53867475 MINT 9 1992 Stadium Club 247 Shaquille O'Neal Card
    54 1 53867476 MINT 9 1992 Stadium Club 201 Shaquille O'Neal Card
    55 1 53867477 MINT 9 2006 Bowman Chrome 60 Jason Kidd Gold Refractor Card
    56 1 53867478 MINT 9 2007 Bowman Chrome 103 Ben Wallace Gold Refractor Card
    57 1 53867479 NEAR MINT 7 2008 Bowman Chrome 13 Rudy Gay Blue Refractor Card
    58 1 53867480 MINT 9 2005 Topps 1952 Style 83 Jason Kidd Chrome-Blue Refractor Card
    59 1 53867481 GEM MINT 10 2008 Topps Chrome 111 Tracy McGrady Gold Refractor Card
    60 1 53867482 GEM MINT 10 2006 Finest 17 Chris Paul Blue Refractor Card

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    Geoff76Geoff76 Posts: 150 ✭✭✭

    Question - I’ve seen a few recent posts involving group, special, value orders etc. that are being shipped approx. 8 months after entry. For those of you in that boat, do you recall when you hit the grading phase in that eight-month span? I ask because I have a value modern order that was entered on 4/15 but hasn’t made it out of R&ID. I’d love to get them back before Christmas (two cards belong to my son) but I’m not optimistic if they don’t advance to grading before October.

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    azvikeazvike Posts: 361 ✭✭✭

    @Czone said:
    60 Card Modern Value

    60
    DATE RECEIVED
    1/18/2021
    DATE SHIPPED
    N/A
    Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
    1 1 53867423 GEM MINT 10 2011 Rittenhouse Archives WNBA Autographs Courtney Vandersloot Card
    2 1 53867424 GEM MINT 10 2011 Rittenhouse Archives WNBA Autographs Courtney Vandersloot Card
    3 1 53867425 GEM MINT 10 1992 Topps Archives 150 Shaquille O'Neal Gold Card
    4 1 53867426 GEM MINT 10 2006 Topps 123 LeBron James Gold Card
    5 1 53867427 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1979 Topps 60 Pete Maravich Card
    6 1 53867428 NEAR MINT 7 1979 Topps 84 Terry Tyler Card
    7 1 53867429 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 Topps 20 Julius Erving Card
    8 1 53867430 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 Topps 10 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Card
    9 1 53867431 NEAR MINT 7 1979 Topps 1 George Gervin Card
    10 1 53867432 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1979 Topps 31 Alex English Card
    11 1 53867433 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 110 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Card
    12 1 53867434 MINT 9 1988 Fleer 124 Larry Bird All-Star Card
    13 1 53867435 MINT 9 2007 Topps 112 Kevin Durant 1957-58 Variation Card
    14 1 53867436 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Fleer 77 Chris Mullin Card
    15 1 53867437 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer 31 Julius Erving Card
    16 1 53867438 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer 16 Maurice Cheeks Card
    17 1 53867439 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer 12 Manute Bol Card
    18 1 53867440 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer 4 Danny Ainge Card
    19 1 53867441 MINT 9 1986 Fleer 3 Mark Aguirre Card
    20 1 53867442 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer 120 Spud Webb Card
    21 1 53867443 MINT 9 1988 Fleer 9 Larry Bird Card
    22 1 53867444 MINT 9 1988 Fleer 67 Magic Johnson Card
    23 1 53867445 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 AW Sports Boxing 69 Muhammad Ali Card
    24 1 53867446 MINT 9 1980 Topps 393 Ozzie Smith Card
    25 1 53867447 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1972 Topps 110 John Havlicek Card
    26 1 53867448 MINT 9 1972 Topps 110 John Havlicek Card
    27 1 53867449 NEAR MINT 7 1972 Topps 180 Artis Gilmore Card
    28 1 53867450 MINT 9 2002 Topps 248 Tom Brady Collection Card
    29 1 53867451 MINT 9 2002 Topps 295 Tom Brady Collection Card
    30 1 53867452 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 34 Stephen Curry Card
    31 1 53867453 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 34 Stephen Curry Card
    32 1 53867454 MINT 9 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 34 Stephen Curry Card
    33 1 53867455 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 34 Stephen Curry Card
    34 1 53867456 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 40 James Harden Card
    35 1 53867457 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 40 James Harden Card
    36 1 53867458 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 40 James Harden Card
    37 1 53867459 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 40 James Harden Card
    38 1 53867460 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition 40 James Harden Card
    39 1 53867461 GEM MINT 10 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition Draft Class D-Chh Gerald Henderson/James Harden/Stephen Curry Card
    40 1 53867462 GEM MINT 10 2009 Panini Prestige 203 James Harden Card
    41 1 53867463 MINT 9 2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition Tournament Titans TT-SC Stephen Curry Card
    42 1 53867464 MINT 9 1988 Fleer 126 Akeem Olajuwon All-Star Card
    43 1 53867465 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Fleer 115 John Stockton Card
    44 1 53867466 NEAR MINT 7 1988 Fleer 57 Reggie Miller Card
    45 1 53867467 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2008 Topps Chrome 11 Yao Ming Refractor Card
    46 1 53867468 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer 35 Julius Erving Card
    47 1 53867469 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer 35 Julius Erving Card
    48 1 53867470 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer 35 Julius Erving Card
    49 1 53867471 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1972 Topps 263 Aba Rebound Leaders Gilmore/Erving/Daniels Card
    50 1 53867472 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Upper Deck 1B Shaquille O'Neal Trade Card Card
    51 1 53867473 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Upper Deck 1B Shaquille O'Neal Trade Card Card
    52 1 53867474 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Upper Deck 1B Shaquille O'Neal Trade Card Card
    53 1 53867475 MINT 9 1992 Stadium Club 247 Shaquille O'Neal Card
    54 1 53867476 MINT 9 1992 Stadium Club 201 Shaquille O'Neal Card
    55 1 53867477 MINT 9 2006 Bowman Chrome 60 Jason Kidd Gold Refractor Card
    56 1 53867478 MINT 9 2007 Bowman Chrome 103 Ben Wallace Gold Refractor Card
    57 1 53867479 NEAR MINT 7 2008 Bowman Chrome 13 Rudy Gay Blue Refractor Card
    58 1 53867480 MINT 9 2005 Topps 1952 Style 83 Jason Kidd Chrome-Blue Refractor Card
    59 1 53867481 GEM MINT 10 2008 Topps Chrome 111 Tracy McGrady Gold Refractor Card
    60 1 53867482 GEM MINT 10 2006 Finest 17 Chris Paul Blue Refractor Card

    nice hit line 3!

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    CzoneCzone Posts: 17 ✭✭

    Thank you! It feels good to get some 10's this time.

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    Jayman1982Jayman1982 Posts: 464 ✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2021 3:49PM

    @Geoff76 said:

    Question - I’ve seen a few recent posts involving group, special, value orders etc. that are being shipped approx. 8 months after entry. For those of you in that boat, do you recall when you hit the grading phase in that eight-month span? I ask because I have a value modern order that was entered on 4/15 but hasn’t made it out of R&ID. I’d love to get them back before Christmas (two cards belong to my son) but I’m not optimistic if they don’t advance to grading before October.

    You might get in to grading stage in 2 months, but I highly doubt you will get your cards back by Christmas, they have yet to hit the really big months of submissions (February and March)

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    CzoneCzone Posts: 17 ✭✭

    Very nice gem rate. You must have a great system and a good eye for pre-grading cards. I find myseff needing to spend more time and attention on surfaces.

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    blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2021 8:14PM

    @Czone said:
    Very nice gem rate. You must have a great system and a good eye for pre-grading cards. I find myseff needing to spend more time and attention on surfaces.

    ooooh no. been down this road too many times. as soon as i say i do, ill get slaughtered. im content in just being the blind squirrel. 😉

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    @blurryface said:

    @Czone said:
    Very nice gem rate. You must have a great system and a good eye for pre-grading cards. I find myseff needing to spend more time and attention on surfaces.

    ooooh no. been down this road too many times. as soon as i say i do, ill get slaughtered. im content in just being the blind squirrel. 😉

    You’re too modest. 🙂 Take a bow. You have a great eye.

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    blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2021 8:24PM

    i sorta thought he looked like he was bowing at first. but now im trying to figure out what type of wizardry he’s doing to make that acorn float in between his hands like that…

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    blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MarshallFaulk28 said:
    You are more like this squirrel here!

    >
    this actually did make me laugh at loud! thank you!

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    jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭

    Regular pack grading:
    Arrived 06/30/21
    Entered 07/01/21
    Grading 09/30/21

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    thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭

    @jayhawke said:
    Regular pack grading:
    Arrived 06/30/21
    Entered 07/01/21
    Grading 09/30/21

    "Regular" pack grading? Isn't that the inexpensive level? Was that level removed or am I missing the option somewhere?? I've got a bunch of packs to send in but it's not worth it at $100 per.

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    jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭

    @thehallmark said:

    @jayhawke said:
    Regular pack grading:
    Arrived 06/30/21
    Entered 07/01/21
    Grading 09/30/21

    "Regular" pack grading? Isn't that the inexpensive level? Was that level removed or am I missing the option somewhere?? I've got a bunch of packs to send in but it's not worth it at $100 per.

    I got it in before they stopped accepting packs at this price level. $50/ pack

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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2021 4:24PM

    Today I reached QA1. About a week in Assembly. It is a 20 card Modern-Value sub of 76 & 77 Topps AS cards. I am happy finally to be getting closer but I am also wary of getting hammered (again). Maybe, things will be better this time around....

    EDITED TO ADD: Received 10/08/2020 Entered 01/13/2021 (in case it helps anyone who is tracking).

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    scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,400 ✭✭✭

    Nice hit on the Vandersloots, @Czone I'm sure there are way bigger cards in that sub, but those are the ones that I like best. None of my Sloots are graded.

    2.5 is pretty much my speed.
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    weaselpuppyweaselpuppy Posts: 218 ✭✭✭

    Value Modern marked as received 10/18 moved to Assembly Monday and QA1 this week. Ultra Modern same day still in Assembly from Monday as well. Ultra Modern received 10/26 in grading since early last month.

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    Has anyone received back a dual service grade add on <$250 sub recently? I have three such subs that arrived at PSA August 2020 and were all logged 10/21/2020. All are suck in grading. One since 11/2020 and the other two since 1/2021. Since there is no CTD for this service I'm just flying blind. Hoping someone with a similar sub can shed some light.

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    nam812nam812 Posts: 10,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @weaselpuppy said:
    Value Modern marked as received 10/18 moved to Assembly Monday and QA1 this week. Ultra Modern same day still in Assembly from Monday as well. Ultra Modern received 10/26 in grading since early last month.

    Received doesn't really mean anything, when was it entered?

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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭

    @Soonerific said:

    Great shot of the Greatest Sooner them all! Boomer!

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    SoxPatsFanSoxPatsFan Posts: 197 ✭✭✭✭

    20 card value modern entered assembly today. Received 11/9/20, entered 1/29/21.

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    BigMKBigMK Posts: 93 ✭✭
    edited October 2, 2021 9:36AM

    I have a Value Modern 50 card order received by PSA back in Sept of 2020 and entered on 1/11/21. It moved to QA1 about 2 weeks ago but has not moved since. It has always been the case for me that once an order moved to QA1, within a few days it would reach QA2 and the grades would pop. Is this now the norm for orders to stay dormant in QA1 for weeks? Just when I thought the end was near, it has become another waiting game. PSA has had my cards in their possession for over a full year and the wait has been agonizing. I just want my cards back :'(

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    rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BigMK said:
    I have a Value Modern 50 card order received by PSA back in Sept of 2020 and entered on 1/11/21. It moved to QA1 about 2 weeks ago but has not moved since. It has always been the case for me that once an order moved to QA1, within a few days it would reach QA2 and the grades would pop. Is this now the norm for orders to stay dormant in QA1 for weeks? Just when I thought the end was near, it has become another waiting game. PSA has had my cards in their possession for over a full year and the wait has been agonizing. I just want my cards back :'(

    there is no norm besides long waits in Research and Grading. I had a few stuck in QA1 for up to a week in the not to distant past (last 60 days) but it was not common. My frustration with this end of the hobby is mounting. I have some stuff I could sub at Express level, but I am holding off because I do not like tying up hobby funds. I have already have thousands of dollars in grading fees sitting out at nearing a 365 day level.

    It is altogther unacceptable. I understand the concept of upcharges, and when / if I get them, I happily pay them because I will be happy with the result of the grading, but it is a real bad look to up charge stuff that sits for this long. I have to keep myself on a hobby budget for my own good and having expenses that are so open ended does not mate well with it.

    Looking for FB HOF Rookies
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    smallstockssmallstocks Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭✭

    I hit my one year anniversary mark on two submissions yesterday. One is value modern entered 1/7/2021 which hit grading on 6/17/21 and has not advanced beyond. As such don't expect the CTD date for that category to move forward for at least a few weeks.


    Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports
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    gemintgemint Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a 4 card reholder order that's been sitting in assembly for two to three months now. Is that typical or should I be concerned?

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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭

    @gemint said:
    I have a 4 card reholder order that's been sitting in assembly for two to three months now. Is that typical or should I be concerned?

    I've had recent subs sit in assembly for a couple of months. I wouldn't stress yet. Things are moving at a glacial pace right now.

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    blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gemint said:
    I have a 4 card reholder order that's been sitting in assembly for two to three months now. Is that typical or should I be concerned?

    considering there is no real consistency in the time frame of the pizza levels, i would say its typical. i guess it really depends how long its been there as recvd? for reference, i have one thats been there for well over 6 months.

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    jeffv96mastersjeffv96masters Posts: 599 ✭✭✭✭

    Orders that require any" spec creations" are getting the usual delays. I've had multiple modern and vintage plus a few scattered ultra move into Grading stages lately , sorta all haphazard, and the rest sit in research/ID stage. I'd prefer my ULTRA mod's process now. I gave up on "in season" poppage

    Only order type irritating me currently is Reslabs which frankly I'm not understanding why the 8 to 10 month re-slab delays. I sent some the end of January, and start of feb, expecting it to be back for Thanksgiving, and it's been sitting six and a half months in assembly and not budging. What kind of order processing system does this ? Makes zero sense. Holding up my registry inputs and resale. Wanted to use the resales to pay for some future subs. You know = finance the hobby using the hobby. Instead I get yelled at every thousand bucks my wife sees leave the account and not get replaced.

    They reopen bulks I have 44k+ items on dock growing by 2k a week. Seeing a -LOT- of future sales I think will do well should I get mine back by year end.

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    CentauriCentauri Posts: 122 ✭✭✭

    @jeffv96masters said:

    They reopen bulks I have 44k+ items on dock growing by 2k a week. Seeing a -LOT- of future sales I think will do well should I get mine back by year end.

    Are you saying you are sitting on 44,000 cards ready to be submitted if they reopen? The tidal wave waiting if they ever do reopen is going to be insane.

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    blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Centauri said:

    @jeffv96masters said:

    They reopen bulks I have 44k+ items on dock growing by 2k a week. Seeing a -LOT- of future sales I think will do well should I get mine back by year end.

    Are you saying you are sitting on 44,000 cards ready to be submitted if they reopen? The tidal wave waiting if they ever do reopen is going to be insane.

    dayum. i just whittled my bulk stack down from about 3k to 2k. have about 300 for once it hits the $50 mark, but 44k? i hear ya! must be doing a whole bunch of “hedo rick”!

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    beachbumcollectingbeachbumcollecting Posts: 461 ✭✭✭
    edited October 4, 2021 9:39AM

    @blurryface said:

    @Centauri said:

    @jeffv96masters said:

    They reopen bulks I have 44k+ items on dock growing by 2k a week. Seeing a -LOT- of future sales I think will do well should I get mine back by year end.

    Are you saying you are sitting on 44,000 cards ready to be submitted if they reopen? The tidal wave waiting if they ever do reopen is going to be insane.

    dayum. i just whittled my bulk stack down from about 3k to 2k. have about 300 for once it hits the $50 mark, but 44k? i hear ya! must be doing a whole bunch of “hedo rick”!

    out of curiosity, what eras are waiting in the wings? Is it mostly ultra modern?

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    44k cards.... 🤯

    How much are you expecting to pay per card for these when they re-open? You waiting for a certain price level?

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    rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am considering selling all in my grading pile at this moment......

    Looking for FB HOF Rookies
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    TronTron Posts: 64 ✭✭

    This is what I hate...this order follows up an order of 56 from this morning with a gem rate of 50% and primarily the 1987 classics because I scored an unreal deal on about 40 sets at 3 bucks per and those were super clean copies, the cream of the crop of those 40, and to tell me that not a single card on here was worthy of a 10 is just plain inaccurate and ridiculously inconsistent. There's zero doubt that there would be at least 4-5 gems on that order but definitely at least 1 because its been so long I cant even remember what the others looked like

    Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
    1 1 53778598 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 35 Bo Jackson Card
    2 1 53778599 MINT 9 1987 Leaf 35 Bo Jackson Card
    3 1 53778600 MINT 9 1987 Topps 170 Bo Jackson Future Stars Card
    4 1 53778601 MINT 9 1987 Topps 170 Bo Jackson Future Stars Card
    5 1 53778602 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps Traded 50T Bo Jackson Card
    6 1 53778603 MINT 9 1986 Topps Traded 50T Bo Jackson Card
    7 1 53778604 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer Glossy 369 Bo Jackson Card
    8 1 53778605 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer Glossy 369 Bo Jackson Card
    9 1 53778606 MINT 9 1987 Fleer Glossy 369 Bo Jackson Card
    10 1 53778607 MINT 9 1987 Fleer 369 Bo Jackson Card
    11 1 53778608 MINT 9 1987 Fleer 369 Bo Jackson Card
    12 1 53778609 MINT 9 1986 Donruss Rookies 38 Bo Jackson Card
    13 1 53778610 MINT 9 1986 Donruss Rookies 38 Bo Jackson Card
    14 1 53778611 MINT 9 1986 Donruss Rookies 38 Bo Jackson Card
    15 1 53778612 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Donruss Rookies 38 Bo Jackson Card
    16 1 53778613 MINT 9 1987 Classic MLB Game 15 Bo Jackson Card
    17 1 53778614 MINT 9 1987 Classic MLB Game 15 Bo Jackson Card
    18 1 53778615 MINT 9 1987 Classic MLB Game 15 Bo Jackson Card
    19 1 53778616 MINT 9 1987 Classic MLB Game 15 Bo Jackson Card
    20 1 53778617 MINT 9 1987 Classic MLB Game 15 Bo Jackson Card

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    rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tron said:
    This is what I hate...this order follows up an order of 56 from this morning with a gem rate of 50% and primarily the 1987 classics because I scored an unreal deal on about 40 sets at 3 bucks per and those were super clean copies, the cream of the crop of those 40, and to tell me that not a single card on here was worthy of a 10 is just plain inaccurate and ridiculously inconsistent. There's zero doubt that there would be at least 4-5 gems on that order but definitely at least 1 because its been so long I cant even remember what the others looked like

    Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
    1 1 53778598 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 35 Bo Jackson Card
    2 1 53778599 MINT 9 1987 Leaf 35 Bo Jackson Card
    3 1 53778600 MINT 9 1987 Topps 170 Bo Jackson Future Stars Card
    4 1 53778601 MINT 9 1987 Topps 170 Bo Jackson Future Stars Card
    5 1 53778602 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps Traded 50T Bo Jackson Card
    6 1 53778603 MINT 9 1986 Topps Traded 50T Bo Jackson Card
    7 1 53778604 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer Glossy 369 Bo Jackson Card
    8 1 53778605 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Fleer Glossy 369 Bo Jackson Card
    9 1 53778606 MINT 9 1987 Fleer Glossy 369 Bo Jackson Card
    10 1 53778607 MINT 9 1987 Fleer 369 Bo Jackson Card
    11 1 53778608 MINT 9 1987 Fleer 369 Bo Jackson Card
    12 1 53778609 MINT 9 1986 Donruss Rookies 38 Bo Jackson Card
    13 1 53778610 MINT 9 1986 Donruss Rookies 38 Bo Jackson Card
    14 1 53778611 MINT 9 1986 Donruss Rookies 38 Bo Jackson Card
    15 1 53778612 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Donruss Rookies 38 Bo Jackson Card
    16 1 53778613 MINT 9 1987 Classic MLB Game 15 Bo Jackson Card
    17 1 53778614 MINT 9 1987 Classic MLB Game 15 Bo Jackson Card
    18 1 53778615 MINT 9 1987 Classic MLB Game 15 Bo Jackson Card
    19 1 53778616 MINT 9 1987 Classic MLB Game 15 Bo Jackson Card
    20 1 53778617 MINT 9 1987 Classic MLB Game 15 Bo Jackson Card

    if they would only hold they graders accountable to some level of consistency and be transparent about it then I would not complain. I have 8s become 10s 7.5s 9s. a 4 bump to a 7. Usually all the bad grades come on one order. If the cards deserved the grades they received I would not have sent them back to higher results. Time and time again. They just have at least a few graders I have run across that seem to be particularly bad at their job.

    Looking for FB HOF Rookies
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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 4, 2021 6:16PM

    @rexvos said:
    I am considering selling all in my grading pile at this moment......

    I hear ya. I have hundreds of gradable cards (IMHO) but do not want to pay $50 and wait a year for cards that I don't intend to sell. :/ Anytime soon, anyhow.

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    firstbase23firstbase23 Posts: 451 ✭✭✭

    Got these back on 9/22/21. Arrived on 9/20/20. Entered on 01/09/21

    Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
    1 1 53269287 VERY GOOD 3 1909-11 T206 Piedmont 350-460/25 Francis Pfeffer Card
    2 1 53269288 GOOD 2 1909-11 T206 Sweet Caporal 350/30 Cy Seymour Throwing Card
    3 1 53269289 GOOD 2 1954 Topps 30 Ed Mathews Card
    4 1 53269290 NEAR MINT 7 1956 Topps 86 Ray Jablonski White Back Card
    5 1 53269291 NEAR MINT 7 1956 Topps 303 Jim Dyck Card
    6 1 53269292 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1958 Topps 307 Brooks Robinson Card
    7 1 53269293 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1962 Topps 30 Ed Mathews Card
    8 1 53269294 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1963 Fleer 4 Brooks Robinson Card
    9 1 53269295 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 Topps 276 Hoyt Wilhelm Card
    10 1 53269296 NEAR MINT 7 1967 Topps 250 Hank Aaron Card
    11 1 53269297 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1967 Topps 480 Willie McCovey Card
    12 1 53269298 NEAR MINT 7 1968 Topps 408 Steve Carlton Card
    13 1 53269299 NEAR MINT 7 1950 Bowman 36 Frankie Albert Card
    14 1 53269300 NEAR MINT 7 1951 Bowman 67 Gordon Soltau Card
    15 1 53269301 EXCELLENT 5 1955 Bowman 42 John H. Johnson Card
    16 1 53269302 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1955 Bowman 91 John Sandusky Card
    17 1 53269303 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1959 Topps 5 Hugh McElhenny Card
    18 1 53269304 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 Topps 51 Bart Starr Card
    19 1 53269305 NEAR MINT 7 ST 1961 Fleer 127 Hugh McElhenny Card
    20 1 53269306 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1961 Topps 79 Hugh McElhenny Card
    21 1 53269307 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1961 Topps 145 George Blanda Card
    22 1 53269308 EXCELLENT 5 1962 Topps 63 Bart Starr Card
    23 1 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1963 Topps 86 Bart Starr Card

    Matt

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    blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 5, 2021 7:46AM

    @beachbumcollecting said:

    @blurryface said:

    @Centauri said:

    @jeffv96masters said:

    They reopen bulks I have 44k+ items on dock growing by 2k a week. Seeing a -LOT- of future sales I think will do well should I get mine back by year end.

    Are you saying you are sitting on 44,000 cards ready to be submitted if they reopen? The tidal wave waiting if they ever do reopen is going to be insane.

    dayum. i just whittled my bulk stack down from about 3k to 2k. have about 300 for once it hits the $50 mark, but 44k? i hear ya! must be doing a whole bunch of “hedo rick”!

    out of curiosity, what eras are waiting in the wings? Is it mostly ultra modern?

    ehh a little. ultra modern run from covid ripping about dry. this is mostly stuff ive had for years that just wasnt really worth subbing until recently. ton of 70s 80s, non sports stuff, pre war golf and stuff like that. have a ton of ‘18 stuff from soto chasing that i might consider since technically it should be turning to “modern” very shortly and a cheaper rate. of course id like to see some better consistency before any of it ships…

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    CakesCakes Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kepper19 said:

    @swish54 said:
    74 card football special:
    Arrived: 1/5
    Entered: 1/11
    Grading: 6/28
    Assembly: 9/2
    QA 1: 9/9
    QA 2: 9/9
    Shipped: 9/13

    Overall, pretty disappointed. These were sent in right before the big price jumps, so I was fully expecting upcharges on multiple of the big rookies. That never happened. Thought most were 1-2 grades lower than expected. Other than the big rookies, which would've been submitted no matter what, I thought the others would be mostly 9's, with a few shots at 10's, not mostly 8's with a few shots at 9s like what I received. I felt like I over scrutinized them before sending, knowing they had to get 9's to make it worth it. I'm just thinking out loud here, but couldn't help to wonder if it was a new grader and if they weren't sure of a grade, if they then went by my declared value to help speed it up because a lot of them seemed be a grade where the declared value would put it. I tend to go low on my declared values in years past and this was the first time I noticed it. IDK. Like I said, just thinking out loud. I am looking forward to getting them back in-hand to check them over again and see if I missed something, but I don't think so.

    1 1 53250682 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1986 Topps 374 Steve Young Card
    2 1 53250683 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1986 Topps 374 Steve Young Card
    3 1 53250684 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps 374 Steve Young Card
    4 1 53250685 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1986 Topps 374 Steve Young Card
    5 1 53250686 EXCELLENT 5 1984 Topps 123 Dan Marino Card
    6 1 53250687 EXCELLENT 5 1984 Topps 123 Dan Marino Card
    7 1 53250688 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Topps 123 Dan Marino Card
    8 1 53250689 NEAR MINT 7 1984 Topps 123 Dan Marino Card
    9 1 53250690 NEAR MINT 7 1984 Topps 123 Dan Marino Card
    10 1 53250691 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps 161 Jerry Rice Card
    11 1 53250692 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps 161 Jerry Rice Card
    12 1 53250693 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 161 Jerry Rice Card
    13 1 53250694 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps 161 Jerry Rice Card
    14 1 53250695 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1984 Topps 63 John Elway Card
    15 1 53250696 EXCELLENT 5 1984 Topps 63 John Elway Card
    16 1 53250697 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1984 Topps 63 John Elway Card
    17 1 53250698 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Topps 63 John Elway Card
    18 1 53250699 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 264 Herschel Walker Card
    19 1 53250700 MINT 9 1987 Topps 264 Herschel Walker Card
    20 1 53250701 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 264 Herschel Walker Card
    21 1 53250702 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 264 Herschel Walker Card
    22 1 53250703 MINT 9 1987 Topps 264 Herschel Walker Card
    23 1 53250704 NEAR MINT 7 1988 Topps 352 Vinny Testaverde Card
    24 1 53250705 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 112 Joe Montana Card
    25 1 53250706 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 112 Joe Montana Card
    26 1 53250707 NEAR MINT 7 1985 Topps 157 Joe Montana Card
    27 1 53250708 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 45 Dan Marino Card
    28 1 53250709 MINT 9 1986 Topps 67 Howie Long Card
    29 1 53250710 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 362 Jim Kelly Card
    30 1 53250711 MINT 9 1987 Topps 362 Jim Kelly Card
    31 1 53250712 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 362 Jim Kelly Card
    32 1 53250713 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Topps 327 Bo Jackson Card
    33 1 53250714 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Topps 327 Bo Jackson Card
    34 1 53250715 NEAR MINT 7 1983 Topps 362 Franco Harris Card
    35 1 53250716 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Topps 380 Darrell Green Card
    36 1 53250717 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 255 Boomer Esiason Card
    37 1 53250718 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 255 Boomer Esiason Card
    38 1 53250719 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 255 Boomer Esiason Card
    39 1 53250720 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps 255 Boomer Esiason Card
    40 1 53250721 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 112 John Elway Card
    41 1 53250722 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1978 Topps 315 Tony Dorsett Card
    42 1 53250723 MINT 9 1984 Topps 280 Eric Dickerson Card
    43 1 53250724 NEAR MINT 7 1985 Topps 24 Richard Dent All Pro Card
    44 1 53250725 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 Topps 294 Marcus Allen Card
    45 1 53250726 NEAR MINT 7 1983 Topps 294 Marcus Allen Card
    46 1 53250727 NEAR MINT 7 1982 Topps 434 Lawrence Taylor All-Pro Card
    47 1 53250728 POOR 1 1972 Topps 200 Roger Staubach Card
    48 1 53250729 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 389 Bruce Smith Card
    49 1 53250730 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 389 Bruce Smith Card
    50 1 53250731 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps 389 Bruce Smith Card
    51 1 53250732 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 389 Bruce Smith Card
    52 1 53250733 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1983 Topps 38 Mike Singletary Card
    53 1 53250734 NEAR MINT 7 1983 Topps 38 Mike Singletary Card
    54 1 53250735 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 115 Jerry Rice Card
    55 1 53250736 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 115 Jerry Rice Card
    56 1 53250737 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps 388 Andre Reed Card
    57 1 53250738 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 388 Andre Reed Card
    58 1 53250739 NEAR MINT 7 1984 Topps 228 Walter Payton Card
    59 1 53250740 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1985 Topps 33 Walter Payton All Pro Card
    60 1 53250741 NEAR MINT 7 1985 Topps 33 Walter Payton All Pro Card
    61 1 53250742 MINT 9 1987 Topps 46 Walter Payton Card
    62 1 53250743 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 11 Walter Payton Card
    63 1 53250744 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 Topps 36 Walter Payton Card
    64 1 53250745 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 Topps 36 Walter Payton Card
    65 1 53250746 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 1000 Yard Club 3 Walter Payton Card
    66 1 53250747 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 1000 Yard Club 3 Walter Payton Card
    67 1 53250748 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 350 Warren Moon Card
    68 1 53250749 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps 350 Warren Moon Card
    69 1 53250750 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps 350 Warren Moon Card
    70 1 53250751 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Topps 251 Warren Moon Card
    71 1 53250752 NEAR MINT 7 1985 Topps 251 Warren Moon Card
    72 1 53250753 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1986 Topps 156 Joe Montana Card
    73 1 53250754 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps 156 Joe Montana Card
    74 1 53250755 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 156 Joe Montana Card

    Some tough sets there, especially the 1986 Topps football, with the green borders and usual tough centering...1984 football also typically bad centered...post a few pics of the ones you felt got lower grades than anticipated once you get them back

    Okay I have decided to step back up onto my soapbox. THE 86 TOPPS FOOTBALL IS UNFAIRLY GRADED! The stigma is unfair and it has just stuck. Getting a PSA 9 with the modern graders is damn near impossible. I am still not sure how you got the MINT 9 1986 Topps 67 Howie Long grade.

    Sorry to see your results, I feel for you. You should stop sending in any 86's for at least 3 to 5 years. Thankfully I gave up on ever getting a Rice to grade high 2 or 3 years ago. I couldn't take the pain any longer.

    Successful coin BST transactions with Gerard and segoja.

    Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
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    blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 5, 2021 10:29AM

    so i think today marks the first time my cards have actually sat at psa for an entire calendar year. granted they werent “logged” but i think i am over that padded delay deflection terminology anyways. my cards have been there for 1 full year now. and not female dogging it. just stating facts as its a first for me.

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    @blurryface said:
    so i think today marks the first time my cards have actually sat at psa for an entire calendar year. granted they werent “logged” but i think i am over that padded delay deflection terminology anyways. my cards have been there for 1 full year now. and not female dogging it. just stating facts as its a first for me.

    it is painful. we have a vintage value group sub coming up on a year next week that is still n R&ID. I say I still enjoy it and am still going to be a customer but it gets tougher every day :(

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    @blurryface Hopefully this makes you feel a little better. In just over two weeks these orders will have been at PSA 14 months. At this point I'm almost hoping the hit 1 year since being logged in a couple weeks. Will make a great story some day.

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    blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Soonerific said:

    @blurryface Hopefully this makes you feel a little better. In just over two weeks these orders will have been at PSA 14 months. At this point I'm almost hoping the hit 1 year since being logged in a couple weeks. Will make a great story some day.

    wow! now i feel like an idiot. sorry to see, sooner. are they in qa1 at least?

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    azvikeazvike Posts: 361 ✭✭✭
    edited October 5, 2021 1:04PM

    @blurryface said:
    so i think today marks the first time my cards have actually sat at psa for an entire calendar year. granted they werent “logged” but i think i am over that padded delay deflection terminology anyways. my cards have been there for 1 full year now. and not female dogging it. just stating facts as its a first for me.

    I feel you, Blurry. My oldest "arrived" on 9/16...finally hit "assembly" 2 weeks ago, but there it sits...

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    wow! now i feel like an idiot. sorry to see, sooner. are they in qa1 at least?

    Nah! I wish. @blurryface They are all three still in grading. Been stuck there since 11/2020 on one and 01/2021 on the other two.

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