Found some coins my mom left me: real or fake?
I'm more of a currency collector but I was looking through some things of my mom when she passed away a while ago. I totally forgot about these coins Are they real or fake? I think the gold ones are fake bc how can she get a hold of these coins?? Thanks in advance!!
1855 $3 gold front #1.
1855 $3 gold back #1.
1855 $3 gold front #2.
1855 $3 gold back #2.
2006 Liberty Walker
2006 Liberty Walker (back)
1888 Morgan (front)
1888 Morgan (back)
1881 Morgan S (front)
1881 Morgan S (back)
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Do us (and yourself) a favor and edit your post to link the obverse & reverse together. Is there 1 $3 or 2 $3s
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Looks good! That $3 gold is nice.
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Nice gold!
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I like the gold
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Welcome!
Nice group of coins ... especially the $3 gold pieces. Best of luck to you!
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@BStrauss3 said:
Do us (and yourself) a favor and edit your post to link the obverse & reverse together. Is there 1 $3 or 2 $3sMy bad. I fixed it for everyone. Thanks for letting me know.
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Thank you so for your answers. Kind of shocked my mom would even have these.
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@luckyrollers said:
Thank you so for your answers. Kind of shocked my mom would even have these.
Should I get them graded?i would be pretty shocked if there weren't at least a couple members here that would want the $3. they are quite popular but HIGHLY counterfeited.
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Get the 1855 G$3 slabbed. The other coins aren't worth the cost of getting them slabbed. Nice coins.
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Nice coins can’t c any problems. Get the gold coins slabbed.
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The $3's gold looks legit to me... definitely worth getting them slabbed. Very nice pieces...
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not liberty walker but silver eagle
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@MsMorrisine said:
not liberty walker but silver eagle...the thumbs up variety... ;-)
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I think the three's could be a problem.
Look at the pock before the numeral 3 on the reverse. The same pock (possibly raised),on both coins.
On the obverse, look at the tick on the left bottom of the 'O' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins. How about whatever that is running along the top of the 'F' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins.1 -
Bummer about that big fingerprint.
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@thebeav said:
I think the three's could be a problem.
Look at the pock before the numeral 3 on the reverse. The same pock (possibly raised),on both coins.
On the obverse, look at the tick on the left bottom of the 'O' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins. How about whatever that is running along the top of the 'F' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins.Yeah. I don't trust the 3s. Of course, I often don't. Lol
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@thebeav said:
I think the three's could be a problem.
Look at the pock before the numeral 3 on the reverse. The same pock (possibly raised),on both coins.
On the obverse, look at the tick on the left bottom of the 'O' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins. How about whatever that is running along the top of the 'F' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins.So the best thing to do is to send it off to get graded right? If it's counterfeited then they will send it back, right?
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@thebeav said:
I think the three's could be a problem.
Look at the pock before the numeral 3 on the reverse. The same pock (possibly raised),on both coins.
On the obverse, look at the tick on the left bottom of the 'O' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins. How about whatever that is running along the top of the 'F' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins.The same marks on two different coins are definitely a red flag.
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I love the three dollar gold piece!
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@coinandcurrency242 said:
I love the three dollar gold piece!There are two of them, make him an offer.
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@thebeav said:
I think the three's could be a problem.
Look at the pock before the numeral 3 on the reverse. The same pock (possibly raised),on both coins.
On the obverse, look at the tick on the left bottom of the 'O' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins. How about whatever that is running along the top of the 'F' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins.I'm also spotting the same mark on the reverse on both coins shown below:
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@Crackout said:
@thebeav said:
I think the three's could be a problem.
Look at the pock before the numeral 3 on the reverse. The same pock (possibly raised),on both coins.
On the obverse, look at the tick on the left bottom of the 'O' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins. How about whatever that is running along the top of the 'F' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins.I'm also spotting the same mark on the reverse on both coins shown below:
So it's fake then? Ok I got it.
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@Crackout said:
@thebeav said:
I think the three's could be a problem.
Look at the pock before the numeral 3 on the reverse. The same pock (possibly raised),on both coins.
On the obverse, look at the tick on the left bottom of the 'O' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins. How about whatever that is running along the top of the 'F' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins.I'm also spotting the same mark on the reverse on both coins shown below:
@Crackout said:
@thebeav said:
I think the three's could be a problem.
Look at the pock before the numeral 3 on the reverse. The same pock (possibly raised),on both coins.
On the obverse, look at the tick on the left bottom of the 'O' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins. How about whatever that is running along the top of the 'F' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins.I'm also spotting the same mark on the reverse on both coins shown below:
Repeating defects such as this is a sure sign of fake coins made from the same set of false dies. They're probably made from real gold though.
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See if the gold coin sticks to a magnet. If it does, it isn't real gold.
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I think that the OP posted multiple pics of the same gold coin. Even the small scratches seem to match.
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@gumby1234 said:
I think that the OP posted multiple pics of the same gold coin. Even the small scratches seem to match.Two different coins. One with a poor strike but same marks.
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@bolivarshagnasty said:
@gumby1234 said:
I think that the OP posted multiple pics of the same gold coin. Even the small scratches seem to match.Two different coins. One with a poor strike but same marks.
If 2 different then definitely countrrfeit.
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@Crackout said:
@thebeav said:
I think the three's could be a problem.
Look at the pock before the numeral 3 on the reverse. The same pock (possibly raised),on both coins.
On the obverse, look at the tick on the left bottom of the 'O' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins. How about whatever that is running along the top of the 'F' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins.I'm also spotting the same mark on the reverse on both coins shown below:
Started thinking about what if the real die had this mark... but that would be a "die bump" rather than a die pit, so wouldn't happen, right?
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@moursund also look at the marks on both sides of the 3. If these were die diagnostics then it would be well known to collectors by now.
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@gumby1234 said:
@moursund also look at the marks on both sides of the 3. If these were die diagnostics then it would be well known to collectors by now.That was my other thought... that die particularities would be well known, especially for rare coins.
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@moursund its one thing that counterfeiters fail to do. Getting rid of marks that will show up on every coin they fake. No 2 genuine coins get the same marks and dings.
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@luckyrollers said:
@Crackout said:
@thebeav said:
I think the three's could be a problem.
Look at the pock before the numeral 3 on the reverse. The same pock (possibly raised),on both coins.
On the obverse, look at the tick on the left bottom of the 'O' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins. How about whatever that is running along the top of the 'F' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins.I'm also spotting the same mark on the reverse on both coins shown below:
So it's fake then? Ok I got it.
Do you have one $3 gold piece that you posted multiple pictures of or two different coins? If it’s just one coin, my guess is that it’s genuine.
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@MFeld said:
@luckyrollers said:
@Crackout said:
@thebeav said:
I think the three's could be a problem.
Look at the pock before the numeral 3 on the reverse. The same pock (possibly raised),on both coins.
On the obverse, look at the tick on the left bottom of the 'O' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins. How about whatever that is running along the top of the 'F' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins.I'm also spotting the same mark on the reverse on both coins shown below:
So it's fake then? Ok I got it.
Do you have one $3 gold piece that you posted multiple pictures of or two different coins? If it’s just one coin, my guess is that it’s genuine.
It is from two different ones. I guess it's fake or should I bring it to a coin dealer to check? Or just send it to grade and have them check it out?
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@MFeld said:
@luckyrollers said:
@Crackout said:
@thebeav said:
I think the three's could be a problem.
Look at the pock before the numeral 3 on the reverse. The same pock (possibly raised),on both coins.
On the obverse, look at the tick on the left bottom of the 'O' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins. How about whatever that is running along the top of the 'F' in 'OF'. Same thing on both coins.I'm also spotting the same mark on the reverse on both coins shown below:
So it's fake then? Ok I got it.
Do you have one $3 gold piece that you posted multiple pictures of or two different coins? If it’s just one coin, my guess is that it’s genuine.
Two coins. Look at the strike in DOLLARS and 1855. I think they're good gold, but not real. Something a little too clunky looking, but maybe that's just the picture.
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That is confusing - picture wise it looks like 2 different coins but mark wise they have the same dings/dents in the exact same places obverse and reverse
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@luckyrollers If that is 2 different coins they are counterfeit, but may be made of gold. Bring them to a coin dealer and have them tested. Gold is worth money.
@Steven59 they have the same marks because they are fake.Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM
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@gumby1234 said:
[@Steven59 they have the same marks because they are fake.]Gotcha, thanks!
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I don’t like the look of the silver eagle too
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@MsMorrisine said:
I don’t like the look of the silver eagle tooDate is funny, but it could be the picture.
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Silver eagle is fake
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@MsMorrisine said:
[ I don’t like the look of the silver eagle too]Oh yeah, now that you mention it the Sun's rays look off. Really a weight would start to narrow things down.
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@Steven59 said:
@MsMorrisine said:
[ I don’t like the look of the silver eagle too]Oh yeah, now that you mention it the Sun's rays look off. Really a weight would start to narrow things down.
Wow, then I'm going to have to bring all of them to check.
Thank you all for your expert advise!!
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@MsMorrisine said:
Silver eagle is fakeDidn't know people went to the bother of faking ASEs. Isn't that a ~$50 coin?
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Less than 50
Everything is faked
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Unfortunately, I have to agree with what other posters have said.
Pretty sure the 3's are fakes, from the same die. The reverse number and lettering and overall mushiness are tells to me ... as are the identical marks in at least a few places (near O in OF, indent next to 3, indent on lower right of wreath).
The ASE looks okay, I think.
The Morgan's both look real.
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The gold coins appear to be fake.... Best to have them all checked - fake ASE's and Morgans from China are flooding the market. Cheers, RickO
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Compare the date of the coin posted by Goldbully to the date of the OP’s coins.
The OP coins date appear much thicker.
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I first thought that the gold coins were real but after reading the experts comments here, I believe them to be fake.
Another learning experience for me.
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