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ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 27, 2020 12:33PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I just found a second quarter with a countermark.
The Utah one I found about a year ago and posted it here on another thread.
I wonder how many different states and how may of each state was produced. Anyone else have one?

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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are personalized marks and only the individual that made them would be able to say how many he/she made. No numismatic value. Maybe in 100 years some collectors will want them. Cheers, RickO

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    like ric said, not produced but individually stamped. Note the placement of each letter in relation to the others. It indicates each letter was made with and individual punch, one letter at a time. Most machinists have such a set of individual punches that they strike with a hammer.

    The decline from democracy to tyranny is both a natural and inevitable one.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The OP's quarters are part of the "Quarter Notes" project. It is a surrepticious project and has encompassed dozens of different state quarters.

    The tool used is a changeable type holder/punch, so although the letters are ever so slightly misaligned, they would be consistent coin to coin.

    I think the meaning of the Utah message was figured out when you first posted it (?), but I do not at first glance know the meaning of the TN quarter yet.

    Out of curiosity, what part of the country are you in? I have several of these, mostly from eBay, but I have never found one in the wild.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2020 11:03AM

    Thanks @JBK :)
    A quick Google search for "Quarter Notes" brings up a bunch of music related stuff. Anywhere to find more info?

    "I have several of these, mostly from eBay, but I have never found one in the wild."
    Mind showing what you have?

    It took a while but I was able to find the thread from before.
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12426098#Comment_12426098

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2020 2:46PM

    Here are a few more of mine. I have more which I will post in the future.

    The meaning of some of the messages is obvious, while others take quite a bit of analysis to figure out.

    On a Utah quarter: "-K TOO MUCH"

    On an Arkansas quarter (stamped underneath the diamond): "IN THE ROUGH"

    On an Illinois quarter: " SICK N LOUD"

    Here is a rarity - a Quarter Notes counterstamp on a dollar coin: "MARKETING EXCELLENCE"

    This coin was meant as an award; the obverse shows the recipient's name, which has been kept confidential. ;)

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks JBK :)

    Maybe some of the sharp minds around here can figure a few of them out.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice! I haven't found any of those yet.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you are going to stamp EXCELLENCE on a coin, shouldn't the letters be aligned?

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2020 11:59AM

    The "Diamond in the rough" was an easy one.

    The Illinois "Sick n Loud"
    Might be referring to the stampers opinion of farms/city or agriculture/industry in the State.
    Sick is below the farm and Loud is below the city skyline.

    The Utah "-K Too Much" or = Okay too much.
    Might be referring to stampers opinion on religious control over Government & laws. (drinking laws)

    Just a few dumb guesses....cuz I'm not very good at figuring this stuff out. :)

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not know about the quarters but.................I know there were only 13 of these made. :)

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just found a new one. :)
    .
    I wonder if anyone can figure out this one? :D

  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ve made a few of these. Mostly I stamp out names on half oz silver dog bones for people whose pets have passed.

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Found another "Quarter Notes" :)

    I have no idea what this one could mean......anyone else have a guess?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    Found another "Quarter Notes" :)

    I have no idea what this one could mean......anyone else have a guess?

    ANOTHER ONE??? You have the golden touch.

    I can answer....

    It is a reference to the state's name in a play on words.

    "Rhode Island" becomes "Road Island", and a median strip is an island in the road. I have also seen "Roundabout" on RI quarters.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    I can answer....

    It is a reference to the state's name in a play on words.

    "Rhode Island" becomes "Road Island", and a median strip is an island in the road. I have also seen "Roundabout" on RI quarters.

    Thanks for the great answer! I never would have figured that one out. :)

    If you find another one you have that you can add to the thread you might find the RI in your mail box. ;)

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 10, 2020 11:45AM

    :*
    Here is a straight-forward one, made in the COVID-19 era:

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    Wouldn't an armored car service or the federal reserve bank take these coins out of circulation If found?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How would they find them? They work in machines and coin counters.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    :*
    Here is a straight-forward one, made in the COVID-19 era:

    Wow! Thanks for posting that, I didn't realize they were still making them. :)

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    How would they find them? They work in machines and coin counters.

    The armored carrier and Federal Reserve counting machines must have have a reject bin similar to Coinstar.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Modwriter said:

    @JBK said:
    How would they find them? They work in machines and coin counters.

    The armored carrier and Federal Reserve counting machines must have have a reject bin similar to Coinstar.

    But they don't reject. They are the proper weight and size. The distortion is not enough to make them rejectable.

  • DrizztDrizzt Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭

    You take too much
    ILL NOISE, sick and loud
    Road is land median

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Drizzt said:
    You take too much
    ILL NOISE, sick and loud
    Road is land median

    You have lost me.

    I can figure out Illinois = ill noise = sick and loud (counterstamp)

    I already knew the RI slogans.

    What does "you take too much" mean?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe it is UTAH (state on quarter) plus "-K" = "you talk" ?

    That makes the message "you talk too much". ?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BTW, good work on the Illinois. That one was pretty convoluted.

  • DrizztDrizzt Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭

    You talk.....that's it....my mind went to taxes for some reason 🥴

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Found another "Quarter Notes" :)

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,642 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    BTW, good work on the Illinois. That one was pretty convoluted.

    My grandfather would refer to Illinois as Sickpest (Ill + Annoy).

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    Found another "Quarter Notes" :)

    That's downright unfair. ;) You are apparently in the middle of the pipeline.

    Waumbeck is a mountain in NH. I'll have to give the meaning more thought as at first glance it seems a bit too obvious.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lordmarcovan Thanks for posting these to the tread! :)

    The "Quarter Master" should send me a quarter for finding the most out of circulation. ;) LOL

    I am averaging about 1 per 100,000 coins.....they are not easy to find.

    I am kind of surprised a random person has not posted here from a search on the web.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    I am kind of surprised a random person has not posted here from a search on the web.

    I agree, but I think I know why.

    I search on ebay for counterstamps and finding listings by non-collectors is very difficult. They don't know the lingo (counterstamp/countermark).


  • Got a random letter from the quarter master after I found my Michigan j frog quarter! What a awesome amazing human! Thank you to the shadow quarter counter stamper!

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    I was the one that had a hard time posting this guy at first 😂

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @wartty25 Welcome to the forum! :)

    Thanks for posting your finds! :)

  • @ifthevamzarockin thank you so much! Your funds are great too! The quarter master is awesome, I found the Michigan in change two weeks ago and he already done how found my info and sent me another!

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's one. I have not definitively figured out the connection yet.

    It is a Montana quarter stamped MT HEADED.

  • ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not understanding how this quartermaster is finding all yalls addresses 🤷‍♂️

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, I haven’t found any but these are kinda neat. I wonder how many have been done altogether?

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 27, 2020 12:10PM

    @JBK Thanks for posting! :)

    Just a dumb guess..... a mounted head.

    Edited to add: LOL .... Headed .... Ooops try again .... told ya it was a dumb guess :D

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @wartty25
    Yours might be Michigan J. Frog ;)

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    @JBK Thanks for posting! :)

    Just a dumb guess..... a mounted head.

    Edited to add: LOL .... Headed .... Ooops try again .... told ya it was a dumb guess :D

    Actually, I think the answer is in there somewhere. I was thinking along the same lines, but have not quite nailed it down yet.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK Okay, are ya ready for my next dumb guess?

    Maybe the Quarter Master is a fan of MT Danielson's writing???

  • @ifthevamzarockin said:
    @wartty25
    Yours might be Michigan J. Frog ;)

    Yes it is :) and guess what you guys I got another gift or gifts from the quarter master! They are elongated silver dimes and copper pennys he bought from someone who makes it and sent to me!

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,642 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Here's one. I have not definitively figured out the connection yet.

    It is a Montana quarter stamped MT HEADED.

    Empty Headed. Not much inside a skull.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:

    It is a Montana quarter stamped MT HEADED.

    Empty Headed. Not much inside a skull.

    That sounds good to me, I think ya got it! :)

    I knew someone with more brains than me would get it. :D

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:

    @JBK said:
    Here's one. I have not definitively figured out the connection yet.

    It is a Montana quarter stamped MT HEADED.

    Empty Headed. Not much inside a skull.

    Thx! I am sure that's it.

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