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  • dbtunr
    dbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: bestday

    PCGS will have some blowback down the road .. my friend when he takes in coins for PCGS grading.. tells his customers wait time is 10 weeks.. He now takes fees up front for PCGS ....not for NGC




    PCGS just signed a deal with a Chinese Mint to grade a minimum of 200,000 coins/qtr for the next 5 years. I don't think they will be hurting. One has to ask if NGC will still be relevant in 5 years. Yes, I am serious.



  • JeffMTampa
    JeffMTampa Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Business day 36 came and went with no grades on my July 7 order. Let the complaining begin!!
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • TPRC
    TPRC Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    When I joined this thread, I had 9 submissions outstanding from 7/12-7/21. Now I only have 3 and they are all US economy. The others came in-some a little late and some early. My US economy submissions are not even due yet, so I'll just bide my time on those, since that appears to be the toughest category of coins.

    Tom

  • Smittys
    Smittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    day 22 on regular, and day 22 on economy. Hope regular post today, maybe end of Sept for economy
    https://www.ebay.com/str/christyscoins
  • Greeniejr
    Greeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭
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    On day 27 on 4 regular submissions.
  • cardinal
    cardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm on day 39 for 2 regular submissions, and day 17 for one express submission.
  • uofa1285
    uofa1285 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
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    I am at two full months, as of today on orders....
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  • illini420
    illini420 Posts: 11,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    2.5 months + now on my economy submission from the last Long Beach show, submitted June 10... might call this week to see if they'll just get it done and bring it to me at Long Beach which is only 9 days away... would save me the $35 or so in shipping image

    Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 700

  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    June 15 econ not posted yet, I called last week, and CS told me late this week should be posted. I'm keeping fingers crossed, but have doubts especially if Mikes (posted above) Jun 10 isn't done either!
  • illini420
    illini420 Posts: 11,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: jdimmick
    June 15 econ not posted yet, I called last week, and CS told me late this week should be posted. I'm keeping fingers crossed, but have doubts especially if Mikes (posted above) Jun 10 isn't done either!


    Mine was submitted June 10 at the Long Beach show... but not logged in at PCGS until early the next week on June 14... so we're pretty close I hope!

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    Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 700

  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My June 6th Economy posted today. 38 days. The grades were suspiciously conservative, making me wonder who is grading these cheap orders.
  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Conservative"

    I hate to hear that, As long as it has taken, they should toss in a gift or two.
  • JeffMTampa
    JeffMTampa Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313



    My June 6th Economy posted today. 38 days. The grades were suspiciously conservative, making me wonder who is grading these cheap orders.




    Did you mean an Economy Order from July 6th? June 6th would be a lot more than 38 days.....
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  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, I meant July, and they were tough on the grades. I don't generally have many economy orders, but use them sometimes for long shots and toners.
  • TPRC
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    Originally posted by: jdimmick


    Conservative"

    I hate to hear that, As long as it has taken, they should toss in a gift or two.


    I also found the grading to be on the conservative side on my July Regular and World submissions, though I haven't received my Economy submissions yet. Curious if this is a trend. Generally, I am OK with it.

    Tom

  • IndyCoppers
    IndyCoppers Posts: 20 ✭
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    I'm on day 54 of a 6/14 eco lot.... 57 days is my record, once again have a chance to break it.
    Samuel Shafer
  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: IndyCoppers

    I'm on day 54 of a 6/14 eco lot.... 57 days is my record, once again have a chance to break it.




    image I can't imagine you want me to root for a new record though!
  • IndyCoppers
    IndyCoppers Posts: 20 ✭
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    I guess I just need to complain..... They just posted it and I killed it. No bags and great grades!!
    Samuel Shafer
  • Smittys
    Smittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Two days ago, regular was 22 days now it's



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    And isn't it amusing how many graded New 2016 Medals are out there so quick.
    https://www.ebay.com/str/christyscoins
  • illini420
    illini420 Posts: 11,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Smittys
    Two days ago, regular was 22 days now it's

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    And isn't it amusing how many graded New 2016 Medals are out there so quick.



    And you can be certain none of those were submitted under the Express or higher tiers...

    Most likely went through bulk, which is separate from the regular grading. Normally requires 100 coin minimum, but that number does not apply to all submitters and doesn't apply for all modern releases.

    Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 700

  • BAJJERFAN
    BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: illini420

    Originally posted by: Smittys

    Two days ago, regular was 22 days now it's



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    And isn't it amusing how many graded New 2016 Medals are out there so quick.






    And you can be certain none of those were submitted under the Express or higher tiers...



    Most likely went through bulk, which is separate from the regular grading. Normally requires 100 coin minimum, but that number does not apply to all submitters and doesn't apply for all modern releases.







    Good business sense dictates that you don't put $12 coins ahead of $30 coins, so bulk modern grading must be caught up.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • MFH
    MFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
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    Monday, August 29th, I sent PCGS these submissions by FedEx.
    Yesterday, Tuesday, August 30th, they were accepted into their system.

    One Economy - four crack out ANACS inexpensive Barbers ...

    One World Modern - Two Irish Silver coins : 1990 "5 €" and "10 €"

    One Express - Seven Coins - all over $3,000 ea. for Regrade.
    One Express - Three Coins - Cross Over - all over $3,000 ea.

    Two Regulars - Eleven coins on one & Thirteen coins on another - Both for Regrade

    One Regular - Twelve coins - Cross over - all valued under $3,000.
    One Regular - Three coins - Regrade - all valued under $3,000.

    The Express subs I expect mid to late September.... The Regulars due before Thanksgiving,
    The Economy before Christmas - the World Modern by Halloween - once these return, they're
    off to CAC. Those who don't CAC - they're off to Heritage for the next available auction.


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  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I was thinking that the big backlogs might translate into better grades; not really so, one economy ended up all straight grading, one lightly cleaned piece graded, and a coin that CAC said had pvc., graded and sold. Then I sent an express; both coins had CAC stickers previously, one downgraded the other graded the same though it was old holder, CAC and a local long term dealer saw it as a lock upgrade. If it's in the holder don't crack....
  • BAJJERFAN
    BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: MFH



    Those who don't CAC - they're off to Heritage for the next available auction.











    Where they'll be bought for a song, cracked out, bumped a grade at PCGS and stickered at CAC!

    theknowitalltroll;
  • IndyCoppers
    IndyCoppers Posts: 20 ✭
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    50 days on economy and 30 days on regular!?! Absolute insanity. This deserves an explanation from PCGS. How is it that they tell us their fixing the situation when it appears to only be getting worse!
    Samuel Shafer
  • BAJJERFAN
    BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: IndyCoppers

    50 days on economy and 30 days on regular!?! Absolute insanity. This deserves an explanation from PCGS. How is it that they tell us their fixing the situation when it appears to only be getting worse!




    Apparently the scuttlebutt that they're fixing the problem resulted in an increase in submissions.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • brg5658
    brg5658 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: BAJJERFAN

    Originally posted by: MFH



    Those who don't CAC - they're off to Heritage for the next available auction.











    Where they'll be bought for a song, cracked out, bumped a grade at PCGS and stickered at CAC!





    Haha, so true!



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  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: logger7

    I was thinking that the big backlogs might translate into better grades; not really so, one economy ended up all straight grading, one lightly cleaned piece graded, and a coin that CAC said had pvc., graded and sold. Then I sent an express; both coins had CAC stickers previously, one downgraded the other graded the same though it was old holder, CAC and a local long term dealer saw it as a lock upgrade. If it's in the holder don't crack....




    Grades last week were really bad. I know what I am doing and some Rattlers I cracked, really nice ones, went down. If they are hiring new (kid) graders, they are going to grade low so that they don't get in trouble. The old man who knows his stuff is on the red eye to shanghai!
  • amwldcoin
    amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I can't believe this thread hasn't been poofed or caused a few warnings or bans! Patience is a virtue! image

  • Yorkshireman
    Yorkshireman Posts: 4,616 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: amwldcoin

    I can't believe this thread hasn't been poofed or caused a few warnings or bans! Patience is a virtue! image





    Thin ice?
    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
  • amwldcoin
    amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Yorkshireman

    Originally posted by: amwldcoin

    I can't believe this thread hasn't been poofed or caused a few warnings or bans! Patience is a virtue! image





    Thin ice?




    LOL! image



  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    In time, this too shall pass...how much time??? I would find it better to occupy my "worry-time" doing something else; removing scratches from my holders, sending a few choice coins to cac for their approval, cherry-pick a few more varieties that noone else seems to want, wash my truck in the rain,



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  • TwoKopeiki
    TwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Guaranteed resubmission is on business day 65...
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  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I called customer service last week about my June 15, they said be posted mid week, still nothing!
  • illini420
    illini420 Posts: 11,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Total Items: 25
    Date Received: 6/14/2016
    Date Shipped: N/A
    Order Status: In Process


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    Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 700

  • Bochiman
    Bochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: jdimmick

    I called customer service last week about my June 15, they said be posted mid week, still nothing!




    Mid WHICH week? image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • DollarAfterDollar
    DollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Surprised we're not up to 56 days....................yet.
    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • Manorcourtman
    Manorcourtman Posts: 8,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: jdimmick

    I called customer service last week about my June 15, they said be posted mid week, still nothing!




    Calling them is a total waste of time. I feel sorry for the CSR' s because of all the heck they must hear and absorb.
  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I spoke to them to express my frustration on my orders' delays, and they said I could step them up to express and I explained the profit margins are so tight when you go to resell, that increased fees would often kill profit. Hopefully after Labor Day?
  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    56 business days today and still nothing
  • RMLTM79
    RMLTM79 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭
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    This sums it up at PCGS. Makes me not want to collect anything anymore. 2 months for this. It's not even centered right!! lol Complete joke.

    http://s172.photobucket.com/user/mikeabdouni/media/TigerKilo_zpss0oxazfs.jpg.html?sort=3&o=7

    Copy and paste. Forgot how to post pics.

    So I send it back to PCGS just for a correct label and reholder. Going on day 40 and nothing. By Bye PCGS for good!!
  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: RMLTM79

    This sums it up at PCGS. Makes me not want to collect anything anymore. 2 months for this. It's not even centered right!! lol Complete joke.



    http://s172.photobucket.com/us...pg.html?sort=3&o=7



    Copy and paste. Forgot how to post pics.




    Here is your image:







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  • dbtunr
    dbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: RMLTM79

    This sums it up at PCGS. Makes me not want to collect anything anymore. 2 months for this. It's not even centered right!! lol Complete joke.



    http://s172.photobucket.com/us...pg.html?sort=3&o=7



    Copy and paste. Forgot how to post pics.



    So I send it back to PCGS just for a correct label and reholder. Going on day 40 and nothing. By Bye PCGS for good!!




    excuse my ignorance, what is wrong with the pictured coin?



  • RMLTM79
    RMLTM79 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭
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    It's a proof coin graded as a Mint State. PCGS has probably graded 1,000's of these Lunar coins, regardless of size. How this passed multiple "quality control" checks is completely beyond me.
  • dbtunr
    dbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: RMLTM79

    It's a proof coin graded as a Mint State. PCGS has probably graded 1,000's of these Lunar coins, regardless of size. How this passed multiple "quality control" checks is completely beyond me.




    They have graded exactly 3 of that size; 2 proof and your mis-labeled proof.



  • RMLTM79
    RMLTM79 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭
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    They don't get many kilos but still, the smaller ones look identical and are very obviously proofs. I also put on my submission form, PROOF. There is no excuse. It's now a total of 90 days for a misattributed coin that's still not in my hands.

    Now tell me, does this look like an MS coin to you??

    http://www.pcgs.com/cert/81164906
  • DennisH
    DennisH Posts: 14,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My grades posted this morning.

    Two crossovers, Regular Service. Went 'live' in the system on July 29, so today was business day number 25.

    Both crossed at the same grade.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • ranshdow
    ranshdow Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Ahrensdad

    I just had 7 total days from posted to shipped on an express order (including the weekend and Trueview).




    I had an express crossover received 8/18 that was shipped with TrueView 8/29.

  • bestday
    bestday Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: RMLTM79
    They don't get many kilos but still, the smaller ones look identical and are very obviously proofs. I also put on my submission form, PROOF. There is no excuse. It's now a total of 90 days for a misattributed coin that's still not in my hands.

    Now tell me, does this look like an MS coin to you??

    http://www.pcgs.com/cert/81164906



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  • bestday
    bestday Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: dbtunr
    Originally posted by: RMLTM79
    This sums it up at PCGS. Makes me not want to collect anything anymore. 2 months for this. It's not even centered right!! lol Complete joke.

    http://s172.photobucket.com/us...pg.html?sort=3&o=7

    Copy and paste. Forgot how to post pics.

    So I send it back to PCGS just for a correct label and reholder. Going on day 40 and nothing. By Bye PCGS for good!!


    excuse my ignorance, what is wrong with the pictured coin?




    WoW !!

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