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  • DollarAfterDollar
    DollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I thought they had a separate set of monkeys who grade the moderns. No need to involve the regular graders to split hairs between MS 69 and MS 70. That would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face.



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  • bigjpst
    bigjpst Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: DollarAfterDollar

    I thought they had a separate set of monkeys who grade the moderns. No need to involve the regular graders to split hairs between MS 69 and MS 70. That would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face.







    I believe what you are referring to is bulk grading. Not all business strike modern coins fit into this category.



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  • Manorcourtman
    Manorcourtman Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not good news. One step forward and two steps backimage
  • dbtunr
    dbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: DollarAfterDollar

    I thought they had a separate set of monkeys who grade the moderns. No need to involve the regular graders to split hairs between MS 69 and MS 70. That would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face.









    I'm sure they do but graders are only one piece in the whole cog. Lots of people "touch" the coins. It could be anywhere in the whole process. Phil alluded to some storage capacity issues impacting TrueViews. Maybe there are other IT issues.

  • WaterSport
    WaterSport Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Finally got this today after June 10th log in date. I cherry picked it in a unattributed PR 67 holder at the Long Beach Show in June.

    WS

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  • pocketpiececommems
    pocketpiececommems Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    With the Gold SLQ due to be released on September 8 will this push back submission times back even further
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  • Cacoinguy
    Cacoinguy Posts: 279 ✭✭✭
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    Submitted 20 coin economy order at Long Beach , didnt post until 6/17. No results as of yet. Hoping by this Friday? Might be a pipe dream.
  • dbtunr
    dbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: pocketpiececommems

    With the Gold SLQ due to be released on September 8 will this push back submission times back even further




    They graded about 27K of the 125K Gold Mercury Dimes. With a 10K/day avg coin grade rate, can't see how that would slow things down much if at all



  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ca coin,

    I got a 6/15 eco in, Ill post if they get mine by fri hoping!
  • IndyCoppers
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    My 5/26/ Eco finally graded and shipped in 55 business days. With times going up yet again on economy it is very concerning. Jim is right about NGC right now. They are pushing out orders much quicker and that becomes a serious consideration on lower value items.
    Samuel Shafer
  • Manorcourtman
    Manorcourtman Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: IndyCoppers

    My 5/26/ Eco finally graded and shipped in 55 business days. With times going up yet again on economy it is very concerning. Jim is right about NGC right now. They are pushing out orders much quicker and that becomes a serious consideration on lower value items.




    Sad but true. But db will come along soon and say PCGS doesn't want or need the low dollar economy business.
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD
    3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: IndyCoppers
    My 5/26/ Eco finally graded and shipped in 55 business days. With times going up yet again on economy it is very concerning. Jim is right about NGC right now. They are pushing out orders much quicker and that becomes a serious consideration on lower value items.


    ...I have an economy submission with NGC right now that was logged in 7/15 and it still says its in the "scheduled for grading" phase (I want to say it was an estimated 21 business-day wait when sent in)...Of course I want to see the results and I check everyday...I'm not stressing out at all though, but I'm also not a coin dealer.
  • clarkbar04
    clarkbar04 Posts: 5,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Manorcourtman
    Originally posted by: IndyCoppers
    My 5/26/ Eco finally graded and shipped in 55 business days. With times going up yet again on economy it is very concerning. Jim is right about NGC right now. They are pushing out orders much quicker and that becomes a serious consideration on lower value items.


    Sad but true. But db will come along soon and say PCGS doesn't want or need the low dollar economy business.


    When did we start caring what he thinks?

    According to him, we should send every coin in express. I don't need to divulge why this is a dumb idea. I send in toned common date wheat cents, for crying out loud!

    But, I suppose PCGS is probably glad they have a liaison that works for free, even if he doesn't know what he is talking about.
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  • TommyType
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    Every time I get close to joining the Collectors Club.....I read this thread, and decide, "Eh....I can wait a few weeks. The coins won't spoil in their current holders". image



    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • dbtunr
    dbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: clarkbar04

    Originally posted by: Manorcourtman

    Originally posted by: IndyCoppers

    My 5/26/ Eco finally graded and shipped in 55 business days. With times going up yet again on economy it is very concerning. Jim is right about NGC right now. They are pushing out orders much quicker and that becomes a serious consideration on lower value items.




    Sad but true. But db will come along soon and say PCGS doesn't want or need the low dollar economy business.




    When did we start caring what he thinks?



    According to him, we should send every coin in express. I don't need to divulge why this is a dumb idea. I send in toned common date wheat cents, for crying out loud!



    But, I suppose PCGS is probably glad they have a liaison that works for free, even if he doesn't know what he is talking about.






    I never said send in every coin Express. I said if you are so concerned with how fast they are returned, then that is the option you should use. If time is of no importance, send them in Economy but don't complain when they deviate from the "estimated" process time by 1 or 2 std deviations.
  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Is this the same DBCOIN guy? He used to have some sig line that said 1/200th or 2000th or whatever percentage "owner" of PCGS. He would get on the earning calls and smart off in a condescending way. Same guy???
  • dbtunr
    dbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313



    Is this the same DBCOIN guy? He used to have some sig line that said 1/200th or 2000th or whatever percentage "owner" of PCGS. He would get on the earning calls and smart off in a condescending way. Same guy???




    I was never on an earnings call. I think there was a poster from here on a call once and he was respectful. I was 1/300th owner at one time. More diversified now but I have a decent amount.
  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: dbtunr

    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313



    Is this the same DBCOIN guy? He used to have some sig line that said 1/200th or 2000th or whatever percentage "owner" of PCGS. He would get on the earning calls and smart off in a condescending way. Same guy???




    I was never on an earnings call. I think there was a poster from here on a call once and he was respectful. I was 1/300th owner at one time. More diversified now but I have a decent amount.




    My mistake. Sorry!
  • ModCrewman
    ModCrewman Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Drop to 36 day turnaround for Economy submissions on the current estimated turnaround times this week! Down from I believe 47 last week. Moderns are at 20 days and regular at 22 days.



    Here's hoping day 46 is my lucky day!
  • mbogoman
    mbogoman Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Today is Day 23 for my regular order. I see that Regular submission turnaround estimate has dropped to 22, so I expect grades to post soon. And there is nothing special about the order, just two high value moderns...



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  • bestday
    bestday Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: dbtunr
    Originally posted by: clarkbar04
    Originally posted by: Manorcourtman
    Originally posted by: IndyCoppers
    My 5/26/ Eco finally graded and shipped in 55 business days. With times going up yet again on economy it is very concerning. Jim is right about NGC right now. They are pushing out orders much quicker and that becomes a serious consideration on lower value items.


    Sad but true. But db will come along soon and say PCGS doesn't want or need the low dollar economy business.


    When did we start caring what he thinks?

    According to him, we should send every coin in express. I don't need to divulge why this is a dumb idea. I send in toned common date wheat cents, for crying out loud!

    But, I suppose PCGS is probably glad they have a liaison that works for free, even if he doesn't know what he is talking about.



    I never said send in every coin Express. I said if you are so concerned with how fast they are returned, then that is the option you should use. If time is of no importance, send them in Economy but don't complain when they deviate from the "estimated" process time by 1 or 2 std deviations.



    Std Dev ?? What Bs Go figure .. LOL Std Dev plotted from averages
  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    econo down to 36 day, and I am 47 today.
  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: jdimmick

    econo down to 36 day, and I am 47 today.




    LOL. Sorry, how can you not laugh when reading this? image
  • TPRC
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    Originally posted by: mbogoman
    Today is Day 23 for my regular order. I see that Regular submission turnaround estimate has dropped to 22, so I expect grades to post soon. And there is nothing special about the order, just two high value moderns...



    same with me...day 23 for some regular, nice type coins...nothing extraordinary, just nice pieces.



    Tom

  • Manorcourtman
    Manorcourtman Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: jdimmick

    econo down to 36 day, and I am 47 today.




    That's a joke right? My 6/2 order is starting to rot in PCGS vaults. Not even sure how many days that is? I think it's 80 calendar days now. Pathetic!!!
  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Manorcourtman

    Originally posted by: jdimmick

    econo down to 36 day, and I am 47 today.




    That's a joke right? My 6/2 order is starting to rot in PCGS vaults. Not even sure how many days that is? I think it's 80 calendar days now. Pathetic!!!




    56 working days when you minus 4th of July. Something must be up with your order. My 6/1 economy orders shipped on 7/28 and 8/1.

  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It is speeding up: http://www.pcgs.com/Statistics/ My guess, by the time my stuff gets graded they will be faster than projected times.
  • TommyType
    TommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My first ever submission (regular) just got shipped out today. If it comes back before Manorcourtman's comes back, I'll buy him a beer. image



    On a more serious note....maybe it's time to call customer service? Might be stuck at the bottom of a pile somewhere....
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  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I just sent them a nice (very nice and cordial) note thru the system checking on status of mine, see what happens
  • Manorcourtman
    Manorcourtman Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Business day 57 has come and gone. No grades/coins. CSR says probably by the end of the week. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.....Same story, different day......
  • Bochiman
    Bochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Manorcourtman

    Business day 57 has come and gone. No grades/coins. CSR says probably by the end of the week. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.....Same story, different day......




    You'll probably end up with the mint medals before you get your submission back image

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  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The newest problem is shipping. My order was done Friday and has yet to ship. Doesn't look like much of anything is shipping on the orders page.
  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    same here , nothing, and not even a response from CS
  • DollarAfterDollar
    DollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The good news is that they now estimate 36 working days. The bad news is that estimate is for "new" submissions. Your June submission is still on a 47 day turn around.





















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  • Manorcourtman
    Manorcourtman Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313



    The newest problem is shipping. My order was done Friday and has yet to ship. Doesn't look like much of anything is shipping on the orders page.




    Speaking of shipping....when I get time I'm going to post a picture of what I just rec'd back from them. It is quite interesting.........

  • illini420
    illini420 Posts: 11,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    At about 2 1/2 months now on my June Long Beach submission of World coins. I did finally get back all of the US coin orders submitted at the show image Hope they are just taking extra time to review because the grades are so high image

    Submitted at the Long Beach on June 10 (not logged in until the following week on June 14). Still in process after 50+ business days...

    This could be the first time I've submitted coins at a Long Beach show and not received them back in time to have them in my case at the following show... only 2 weeks until the September Long Beach image At this point, it would be nice if they just brought the graded coins to that show for me and saved me the $35 or so in shipping!!!

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  • dbtunr
    dbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Manorcourtman

    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313



    The newest problem is shipping. My order was done Friday and has yet to ship. Doesn't look like much of anything is shipping on the orders page.




    Speaking of shipping....when I get time I'm going to post a picture of what I just rec'd back from them. It is quite interesting.........





    Based on your comments here, it can only be one of two things:



    - horse's head

    - dead fish wrapped in newspaper



    Seriously though, they don't seem to be processing at the same rate they did in the first 6 months of the year.



  • ModCrewman
    ModCrewman Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Day 48...my economy order from 6/17 just posted.
  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    june 15, still nothing!!!!!
  • JeffMTampa
    JeffMTampa Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This thread seems to be slowing down a bit. I guess people are getting used to 45 Business Days for Economy Grading being the new Norm.
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  • Manorcourtman
    Manorcourtman Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: JeffMTampa

    This thread seems to be slowing down a bit. I guess people are getting used to 45 Business Days for Economy Grading being the new Norm.




  • MonsterCoinz
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    6/8 crossover posted. Still waiting on 6/9 economy.
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  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Are there any shows coming up that will slow down the grading times?
  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: logger7

    Are there any shows coming up that will slow down the grading times?




    image You think they are good now?
  • dbtunr
    dbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: logger7

    Are there any shows coming up that will slow down the grading times?




    list of shows



  • cardinal
    cardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: dbtunr
    Originally posted by: logger7
    Are there any shows coming up that will slow down the grading times?


    list of shows



    Don't forget this show schedule as well --

    List of international shows

    I have noticed this week the PCGS output has been down. Last weekend the total number of coins graded was a very interesting number -- a palindrome consisting of 4-fives and 4-threes: 33,555,533. Today, the figure stands at 33,587,676. That makes for a 4-day increase of 32,143, or 8,036 per business day, which projects to 176,787 for a 30-calendar-day period.
  • Cacoinguy
    Cacoinguy Posts: 279 ✭✭✭
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    6/17 economy grades posted wednesday , should have back in mail saturday
  • mbogoman
    mbogoman Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Regular submission, 7/21, just posted today. That's 27 business days from system entry to posting.

    mbogoman

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  • zas107
    zas107 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭
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    I'm still waiting on my coinfacts refund. image Super slow turnaround time there. Have even emailed CS a few times. Gave up a couple months ago on that one.
  • bestday
    bestday Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭✭
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    PCGS will have some blowback down the road .. my friend when he takes in coins for PCGS grading.. tells his customers wait time is 10 weeks.. He now takes fees up front for PCGS ....not for NGC

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