I was being sarcastic. I don't care whether it is BIN or auction. Both prices count.
My dealer friend with his 15 boxes of sets ,, still holds out ..interesting, he knows 3 other dealers who still hold sets bought at show ,after they too, loaded up on sets
All, most, of the recent posts are about the price of sets and singles, graded or not,
I really like the look of this set and give kudos to the Mint for the great job they did producing these beauties. Yes, a few glitches, but over all my favorite Mint product, next to the Palladium, of the year. Something that gets second place to all the back and forth about sales on the secondary market.
@Kudbegud said:
All, most, of the recent posts are about the price of sets and singles, graded or not,
I really like the look of this set and give kudos to the Mint for the great job they did producing these beauties. Yes, a few glitches, but over all my favorite Mint product, next to the Palladium, of the year. Something that gets second place to all the back and forth about sales on the secondary market.
I agree, overall. Some of the quarters are too busy in the designs and the contrast doesn't help. (Effing Effigy mounds...) But I think the cent and half really pop and the dollar looks stunning.
The mint takes up to 16 weeks to process credits when they short ship or take return and still not given credit. Would not be surprised if final number does not go down more. I love the sets.
MY GOD, BESTIE!!! At the rate these sets are ACCELERATING IN VALUE, they'll be at $50 by Christmas!
[end sarcasm]
LOL.. no cherry picking jim ..... 225th prices from Dec 13 -14 ranged all the way down to $26....non PE
Worse ,,NGC 70 sets ranged from $92 -$108.. Better yet, use the 10% bonus bucks offer, to get a NGC 70s ,10 pc 225th set under 90 bucks .. a bargain ? Hurry ...LOL.....Why bother with raw sets
Just think how much NGC 70s sets have fallen off... coin club was offered 100 NGC sets at $250.00 back in August. The Big A suggestion was spot on..
MY GOD, BESTIE!!! At the rate these sets are ACCELERATING IN VALUE, they'll be at $50 by Christmas!
[end sarcasm]
LOL.. no cherry picking jim ..... 225th prices from Dec 13 -14 ranged all the way down to $26....non PE
Worse ,,NGC 70 sets ranged from $92 -$108.. Better yet, use the 10% bonus bucks offer, to get a NGC 70s ,10 pc 225th set under 90 bucks .. a bargain ? Hurry ...LOL.....Why bother with raw sets
Just think how much NGC 70s sets have fallen off... coin club was offered 100 NGC sets at $250.00 back in August. The Big A suggestion was spot on..
THERE WAS NO CHERRYPICKING. AS STATED, THOSE WERE THE LAST 5 AUCTION RESULTS AT THE TIME I POSTED.
Also, as predicted, as the BE dump has ended, the prices have returned to "normal". That is to say, pretty much the same as they've been since August: $32 to $37 BIN and $28 to $32 auction. Despite some old curmudgeons calling for an inevitable slide, it simply hasn't happened to the raw sets. They remain in the same range they've always been.
SP70 sets are always a loser. I wouldn't bother with them. Especially now that grade inflation has turned half the submissions into 70s. They aren't rare and really shouldn't be worth much more than the raw set which is all 69 and 70. Unless, of course, you're a coffin collector in which case you probably don't even care if there's a coin in it.
That said, even the SP70 set prices have stabilized. In the last 2 months, they've been $110-ish for NGC and $150ish for PCGS.
This set would be more exciting if there were a rapid slide...or a rapid rise. Instead, it hasn't moved in price in months.
As has been the case all along, the BE sets are lower. Maybe because of the category they are in.
Either way, you were wrong. You called "inevitable slide to $20", and even the BE prices have firmed up and are near issue price. Just own it. A year from now? Time will tell.
@dmwest said:
Once these sets are marked sold out they will start to climb.
Honestly, I don't think so. For a while, I thought it possible that people were waiting on the Mint. But we're in the middle of Christmas shopping season and the Mint is on the sidelines. I think demand will die down after Christmas and the simple fact that the Mint makes it official that it is sold out probably won't change that.
I hope I'm wrong. I'd like an extra few bucks for my last 127 sets! [down from 139 last week - broke up 10 sets and shipped and sold a couple full sets. I know Bestie likes to keep track of my inventory, although he seems to think I have 1000 sets for some odd reason.]
back to the coins. I still pounding the table and dead horse on the quality of the zincoln. best zincoln money can buy and it is coming straight out of a mint set instead of endless searching followed by resignation to accepting some plating problems.
back to the coins. I still pounding the table and dead horse on the quality of the zincoln. best zincoln money can buy and it is coming straight out of a mint set instead of endless searching followed by resignation to accepting some plating problems.
I agree. I think the cent really pops in hand. Eventually, even the most stubborn LIncoln collectors will want one in their collection. IMHO.
@RINATIONALS said:
Hmmmm just got a note from eBay that BE cancelled my bid on some of their lot of 20 sets auctions, have they run out or are readying for a price jump?
It's also possible it was an error. I was a little concerned that they only showed 10 lots in the pictures but labeled it 20 lots. They pulled all of them.
They have no more auctions running and only one BIN lot of 20 for $706.
@RINATIONALS said:
Hmmmm just got a note from eBay that BE cancelled my bid on some of their lot of 20 sets auctions, have they run out or are readying for a price jump?
It's also possible it was an error. I was a little concerned that they only showed 10 lots in the pictures but labeled it 20 lots. They pulled all of them.
They have no more auctions running and only one BIN lot of 20 for $706.
The BE liquidation is apparently over.
BE cancelled a 50 lot last week . also last week, another20 lot cancelled...... still more sets to go
@RINATIONALS said:
Hmmmm just got a note from eBay that BE cancelled my bid on some of their lot of 20 sets auctions, have they run out or are readying for a price jump?
It's also possible it was an error. I was a little concerned that they only showed 10 lots in the pictures but labeled it 20 lots. They pulled all of them.
They have no more auctions running and only one BIN lot of 20 for $706.
The BE liquidation is apparently over.
BE cancelled a 50 lot last week . also last week, another20 lot cancelled...... still more sets to go
They may (or may not) have more sets. My crystal ball is not as shiny as yours. But they haven't listed anything in a week. So, even if they have more, they don't seem inclined to continue the dumping. Unless you also read their minds and know differently.
I've never seen this much discussion about a set that has essentially done absolutely nothing since it was launched.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I have not posted in a while. It looks like I haven’t missed a thing.
Count me in for about a four year supply at the rate we are selling. My one salvation... I was not in Denver. I suspect I would have had a 10 - 15 year supply had I been there.
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Went to a small Midwestern show today. Saw a dealer with 3 sets in his case. Asked him about them. He said they’ve been sitting there since August. He’s had zero interest from buyers about them. Actually he was surprised I knew what they were.
@Manorcourtman said:
Went to a small Midwestern show today. Saw a dealer with 3 sets in his case. Asked him about them. He said they’ve been sitting there since August. He’s had zero interest from buyers about them. Actually he was surprised I knew what they were.
Dealer friend actually sold 3 sets in last 2 weeks ..Christmas shoppers..
225th set should have included a Silver Eagle to hype interest
@coinpalice said:
there is no worse feeling in the world coming home from a 12 hour shift and having to stay up and ship these sets off at a loss
Break them up and sell singly. I'm still making money on them. Even the sets make money at $34-35 (free shipping) with the eBay fee discount for Free Returns. I also offer a $5 discount for buying 3 (single or sets), those are the orders I actually make money on.
@Manorcourtman said:
Went to a small Midwestern show today. Saw a dealer with 3 sets in his case. Asked him about them. He said they’ve been sitting there since August. He’s had zero interest from buyers about them. Actually he was surprised I knew what they were.
This is why I think you will see a second wave. You'd be surprised how many people, including series collectors, aren't even aware the sets exist. Sooner or later, they will want the Lincoln in their album.
@Manorcourtman said:
Went to a small Midwestern show today. Saw a dealer with 3 sets in his case. Asked him about them. He said they’ve been sitting there since August. He’s had zero interest from buyers about them. Actually he was surprised I knew what they were.
This is why I think you will see a second wave. You'd be surprised how many people, including series collectors, aren't even aware the sets exist. Sooner or later, they will want the Lincoln in their album.
Agree. Those who get their info from the annual Red Books or similar sources will see these listed in next year's edition and wonder how they missed knowing about it, then I think there will be a mild second wave of demand.
@coinpalice said:
lack of money too. Millennials make up 25 percent of the population and many have moved back to parents house to live due to lack of funds to pay rent
Many Millennials drank the College loan Kool - aid ;;; last 8 years ...payoff their loans in 10-15 years ??? soaking up their cash flow ?
Some Ms turned 26 .....lost their free Obamacare Health coverage
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I was being sarcastic. I don't care whether it is BIN or auction. Both prices count.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-2017-S-225TH-ANNIVERSARY-US-MINT-ENHANCED-UNCIRCULATED-10-COIN-SETS-17XC/322933523659?epid=2154245153&hash=item4b305684cb:g:JbgAAOSwFb5aJHu4
My dealer friend with his 15 boxes of sets ,, still holds out ..interesting, he knows 3 other dealers who still hold sets bought at show ,after they too, loaded up on sets
All, most, of the recent posts are about the price of sets and singles, graded or not,
I really like the look of this set and give kudos to the Mint for the great job they did producing these beauties. Yes, a few glitches, but over all my favorite Mint product, next to the Palladium, of the year. Something that gets second place to all the back and forth about sales on the secondary market.
I agree, overall. Some of the quarters are too busy in the designs and the contrast doesn't help. (Effing Effigy mounds...) But I think the cent and half really pop and the dollar looks stunning.
Sales through 12/10 210,329
That's NEGATIVE 6 for the week (from 210,335 last week).
They haven't sold any in forever. Why/how do they still get returns. LOL
17XC 210,329
The mint takes up to 16 weeks to process credits when they short ship or take return and still not given credit. Would not be surprised if final number does not go down more. I love the sets.
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Or the return was delayed by usps.
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
Last 5 AUCTION RESULTS ON EBAY:
$31.50
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-US-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-10-Coin-Set-Mint-Sold-Out/382304152010?epid=2154478261&hash=item59031a69ca:g:xPUAAOSw~vpZ~Ixo
$35.50
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-Coin-Set-from-US-Mint-17XC/162783557919?epid=2157086496&hash=item25e6a7f91f:g:TBkAAOSwySVaIxAQ
$36.10
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-HAND-2017-S-225TH-ANNIVERSARY-ENHANCED-UNCIRCULATED-10-COIN-SET-17XC/222746185790?epid=2154380548&hash=item33dcb5103e:g:2bMAAOSwjTlZg2vY
$31.11
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-Coin-Set/282765566986?epid=9004947951&hash=item41d624240a:g:OhkAAOSwKJRZgPQ~
$28.65 (Bullion Exchanges)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-US-Mint-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-10-Coin-Set-W-Box-And/182905227638?hash=item2a96004976:g:BkoAAOSwrhhaBd-g
MY GOD, BESTIE!!! At the rate these sets are ACCELERATING IN VALUE, they'll be at $50 by Christmas!
[end sarcasm]
LOL.. no cherry picking jim ..... 225th prices from Dec 13 -14 ranged all the way down to $26....non PE
Worse ,,NGC 70 sets ranged from $92 -$108.. Better yet, use the 10% bonus bucks offer, to get a NGC 70s ,10 pc 225th set under 90 bucks .. a bargain ? Hurry ...LOL.....Why bother with raw sets
Just think how much NGC 70s sets have fallen off... coin club was offered 100 NGC sets at $250.00 back in August. The Big A suggestion was spot on..
THERE WAS NO CHERRYPICKING. AS STATED, THOSE WERE THE LAST 5 AUCTION RESULTS AT THE TIME I POSTED.
Also, as predicted, as the BE dump has ended, the prices have returned to "normal". That is to say, pretty much the same as they've been since August: $32 to $37 BIN and $28 to $32 auction. Despite some old curmudgeons calling for an inevitable slide, it simply hasn't happened to the raw sets. They remain in the same range they've always been.
SP70 sets are always a loser. I wouldn't bother with them. Especially now that grade inflation has turned half the submissions into 70s. They aren't rare and really shouldn't be worth much more than the raw set which is all 69 and 70. Unless, of course, you're a coffin collector in which case you probably don't even care if there's a coin in it.
That said, even the SP70 set prices have stabilized. In the last 2 months, they've been $110-ish for NGC and $150ish for PCGS.
This set would be more exciting if there were a rapid slide...or a rapid rise. Instead, it hasn't moved in price in months.
Just for you, Bestie, here's the last 5 auction results as of RIGHT NOW THIS MINUTE:
$31.11
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-Coin-Set/282765566986?epid=9004947951&hash=item41d624240a:g:OhkAAOSwKJRZgPQ~
$28.65 BE
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-US-Mint-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-10-Coin-Set-W-Box-And/182905227638?hash=item2a96004976:g:BkoAAOSwrhhaBd-g
$28.26 BE
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-US-Mint-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-10-Coin-Set-W-Box-And/162758759301?hash=item25e52d9385:g:BkoAAOSwrhhaBd-g
$27.77 BE
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-US-Mint-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-10-Coin-Set-W-Box-And/152790255730?hash=item2393024872:g:BkoAAOSwrhhaBd-g
$29 BE
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-US-Mint-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-10-Coin-Set-W-Box-And/182905227354?hash=item2a9600485a:g:BkoAAOSwrhhaBd-g
As has been the case all along, the BE sets are lower. Maybe because of the category they are in.
Either way, you were wrong. You called "inevitable slide to $20", and even the BE prices have firmed up and are near issue price. Just own it. A year from now? Time will tell.
Once these sets are marked sold out they will start to climb.
Don't quote me on that.
Honestly, I don't think so. For a while, I thought it possible that people were waiting on the Mint. But we're in the middle of Christmas shopping season and the Mint is on the sidelines. I think demand will die down after Christmas and the simple fact that the Mint makes it official that it is sold out probably won't change that.
I hope I'm wrong. I'd like an extra few bucks for my last 127 sets! [down from 139 last week - broke up 10 sets and shipped and sold a couple full sets. I know Bestie likes to keep track of my inventory, although he seems to think I have 1000 sets for some odd reason.]
Sold a full set a few minutes ago for $33.99.
no holiday rush on this one.
back to the coins. I still pounding the table and dead horse on the quality of the zincoln. best zincoln money can buy and it is coming straight out of a mint set instead of endless searching followed by resignation to accepting some plating problems.
Hmmmm just got a note from eBay that BE cancelled my bid on some of their lot of 20 sets auctions, have they run out or are readying for a price jump?
It's the second time they dropped the 20 lots.
It also means we are bidding against each other.
I agree. I think the cent really pops in hand. Eventually, even the most stubborn LIncoln collectors will want one in their collection. IMHO.
It's also possible it was an error. I was a little concerned that they only showed 10 lots in the pictures but labeled it 20 lots. They pulled all of them.
They have no more auctions running and only one BIN lot of 20 for $706.
The BE liquidation is apparently over.
BE cancelled a 50 lot last week . also last week, another20 lot cancelled...... still more sets to go
They may (or may not) have more sets. My crystal ball is not as shiny as yours. But they haven't listed anything in a week. So, even if they have more, they don't seem inclined to continue the dumping. Unless you also read their minds and know differently.
Hey there, Bestie! Last 5 auction results on raw sets:
$36.36
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-225TH-ANNIVERSARY-ENHANCED-UNCIRCULATED-10-COIN-SET-17XC/202140025397?epid=2154380548&hash=item2f107c0235:g:K7AAAOSw-olaKTn8
$30.11
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-HAND-2017-S-225TH-ANNIVERSARY-ENHANCED-UNCIRCULATED-10-COIN-SET-17XC/222747466821?epid=2154380548&hash=item33dcc89c45:g:2bMAAOSwjTlZg2vY
$38
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-Coin-Set-from-US-Mint-17XC/152810347178?epid=2157086496&hash=item239434daaa:g:23EAAOSwRxFaIxA5
$31.50
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-US-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-10-Coin-Set-Mint-Sold-Out/382304152010?epid=2154478261&hash=item59031a69ca:g:xPUAAOSw~vpZ~Ixo
$36.10
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-HAND-2017-S-225TH-ANNIVERSARY-ENHANCED-UNCIRCULATED-10-COIN-SET-17XC/222746185790?epid=2154380548&hash=item33dcb5103e:g:2bMAAOSwjTlZg2vY
Inevitable what, now?
Last 5 BIN sales:
$36.94
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-US-Mint-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-Coin-Set/112642136433?epid=2159259595&hash=item1a39fe9971:g:kvgAAOSwdBRZgKiJ
35.90, $35.90 (x2) $35.90 (x2)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-Enhanced-Uncirculated-Set-Original-Box-COA-10-Coins-CN-Clad-US-Mint/202128344133?hash=item2f0fc9c445:g:E-4AAOSwHUhaHZTP
$33
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-Set-in-hand-immediate-shipment/382309852545?hash=item5903716581:g:rAkAAOSwOAZZhqOt
68 back in stock
225th Anniversary Enhanced Uncirculated Coin Set
https://catalog.usmint.gov/225th-anniversary-enhanced-uncirculated-coin-set-17XC.html
SAN FRANCISCO (S)
$29.95
This product is currently unavailable. 8:18 AM Central time
Those 68 went fast....
Seriously, 68! After weeks. Not sure what they are doing with these. Maybe we'll get 14,000 new ones one December 31
that sounds about right. I am down to my last 6 sets, I may sell 1 or 2 more tops. I get 35-40 a set.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/112673140755
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bottom line, just too many sets were made, too many people have large amounts of sets. this guy from Florida has enough sets to sell for the next 9 months alone, took him 36 hours to sell 16 sets at 32.75. he has thousands of sets left too
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-US-Mint-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-10-Coin-Set-W-Box-COA/322938659005?epid=2154478261&hash=item4b30a4e0bd:g:5X8AAOSwIwJZgios
would of been a winner with a population of 25,000
there is no worse feeling in the world coming home from a 12 hour shift and having to stay up and ship these sets off at a loss
225,000 Lincoln cents is NOT too many. 225,000 Kennedy Halves is NOT too many. Hell, 225,000 proof sets is NOT too many.
The Mint botched distribution...with a little help from their flipper friends...but overproduction is not, in my opinion, the issue.
Is that you? How do we know he has thousands of sets?
no it's not me. look at his other auctions, he has 4 rows of boxes of these stacked up to the ceiling
Has or had? I'm still using the same picture from August.
This thread just won't die, lol..
I've never seen this much discussion about a set that has essentially done absolutely nothing since it was launched.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I have not posted in a while. It looks like I haven’t missed a thing.
Count me in for about a four year supply at the rate we are selling. My one salvation... I was not in Denver. I suspect I would have had a 10 - 15 year supply had I been there.
Wondercoin.
Lest we forget . . .
Lowest
Mintage
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Cent
The 1909-S VDB was not selling for moon money in its year of issue either.
I doubt that the 2017-S will be dethroned before they quit making cents altogether.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
been watching him sell for awhile now, he sells about 100 sets a month average between his complete sets and sets he breaks open
Lack of interest by younger generations is part of the equation.
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
lack of money too. Millennials make up 25 percent of the population and many have moved back to parents house to live due to lack of funds to pay rent
when you live a cashless life style your whole life, you never get a chance to admire pocket change,
Went to a small Midwestern show today. Saw a dealer with 3 sets in his case. Asked him about them. He said they’ve been sitting there since August. He’s had zero interest from buyers about them. Actually he was surprised I knew what they were.
A loss ....just forget and wait to catch next winner
Dealer friend actually sold 3 sets in last 2 weeks ..Christmas shoppers..
225th set should have included a Silver Eagle to hype interest
Break them up and sell singly. I'm still making money on them. Even the sets make money at $34-35 (free shipping) with the eBay fee discount for Free Returns. I also offer a $5 discount for buying 3 (single or sets), those are the orders I actually make money on.
This is why I think you will see a second wave. You'd be surprised how many people, including series collectors, aren't even aware the sets exist. Sooner or later, they will want the Lincoln in their album.
Agree. Those who get their info from the annual Red Books or similar sources will see these listed in next year's edition and wonder how they missed knowing about it, then I think there will be a mild second wave of demand.
Many Millennials drank the College loan Kool - aid ;;; last 8 years ...payoff their loans in 10-15 years ??? soaking up their cash flow ?
Some Ms turned 26 .....lost their free Obamacare Health coverage