@jessewvu said:
you post a lot coinp. you also post a lot in succession.
They are cutting their loses, nothing to see th> @coinpalice said:
BE is turning that slow drift into a full blown collapse
Just a temporary blip as they blow off their inventory. They've flooded the market with no reserve auctions and they can't get more than $25 to $28. Fixed price sales continue in the $32 to $37 range but are dwarfed by the BE blow off. When BE is out of inventory, we'll see where the price point lies.
In the end, this does not create any new sets. There's still only 225,000 cents and halves making it a scarce date in those two popular series.
I just don't understand BE's thinking......I asked them how many sets (up to 500) they'd be willing to sell direct at $22. I haven't heard back - and haven't checked all their closing auction prices but even if they're averaging $25 per on ebay they can't be netting any more than that after the fees and time involved in listing & shipping plus the money for the free shipping.. If you're willing to sell at that price why not sell them all at once and be done with it? In the meantime many others are still selling at a profit albeit in much lower quantities. Seems like they'd be making much more just by listing them buy it now at 29.95 and dropping the price a bit at a time if someone else undercut them.
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@RINATIONALS said:
I just don't understand BE's thinking......I asked them how many sets (up to 500) they'd be willing to sell direct at $22. I haven't heard back - and haven't checked all their closing auction prices but even if they're averaging $25 per on ebay they can't be netting any more than that after the fees and time involved in listing & shipping plus the money for the free shipping.. If you're willing to sell at that price why not sell them all at once and be done with it? In the meantime many others are still selling at a profit albeit in much lower quantities. Seems like they'd be making much more just by listing them buy it now at 29.95 and dropping the price a bit at a time if someone else undercut them.
Oddly, there BIN price is still $40.
They might be using them as loss leaders to get new customers. It is a tiny piece of their overall business.
@BigA said:
Last BIN NGC 70 set went for $182.75........Same label auction set $106.15 (one day later)...ER ..not FDI or Denver
Recent BIN raw sets $33.95, $33.77, $33.99....Raw auction sets $24.27 (x2), $21.50, $23.06 (x2),
Seems those that buy with BIN ..... have money to burn......Which is why BINs not good market barometer
Why don't you say what you really mean: BIN don't support your thesis, so you discount them.
Auctions are only representative of market value if there is balance between supply and the number of bidders. As I mentioned earlier, you can take any relatively common coin and easily flood the auction market, even the eBay market. List 500 1970-D halves at 1 cent no reserve and I GUARANTEE many of them won't even get to melt value.
It is very hard to ascertain much about the market value based on the current eBay auction environment. It still appears to me that the price has not moved. Auctions are still $24 to $30. BIN are still $32 to $37. There are MORE $24 auctions than there used to be, but that is all because of BE dumping sets.
I'm actually modestly encouraged that the market is managing to absorb the hundreds of sets being dumped into it right now by BE.
@jmlanzaf said:
It is very hard to ascertain much about the market value based on the current eBay auction environment. It still appears to me that the price has not moved. Auctions are still $24 to $30. BIN are still $32 to $37. There are MORE $24 auctions than there used to be, but that is all because of BE dumping sets.
I'm actually modestly encouraged that the market is managing to absorb the hundreds of sets being dumped into it right now by BE.
I just want to know when will the Mint decide to mark this "Sold Out" or go ahead and release the remaining 15k, if they have them.
@jmlanzaf said:
It is very hard to ascertain much about the market value based on the current eBay auction environment. It still appears to me that the price has not moved. Auctions are still $24 to $30. BIN are still $32 to $37. There are MORE $24 auctions than there used to be, but that is all because of BE dumping sets.
I'm actually modestly encouraged that the market is managing to absorb the hundreds of sets being dumped into it right now by BE.
I just want to know when will the Mint decide to mark this "Sold Out" or go ahead and release the remaining 15k, if they have them.
It's getting close to December 31st. I'm 99.99% sure they do NOT have the sets. I've assumed all along that they simply put these sets on the back burner: mint them if you get the chance. I would imagine that they will either become available before Christmas or be marked sold-out on January 2nd.
@BigA said:
Last BIN NGC 70 set went for $182.75........Same label auction set $106.15 (one day later)...ER ..not FDI or Denver
Recent BIN raw sets $33.95, $33.77, $33.99....Raw auction sets $24.27 (x2), $21.50, $23.06 (x2),
Seems those that buy with BIN ..... have money to burn......Which is why BINs not good market barometer
Why don't you say what you really mean: BIN don't support your thesis, so you discount them.
Auctions are only representative of market value if their is balance between supply and the number of bidders. As I mentioned earlier, you can take any relatively common coin and easily flood the auction market, even the eBay market. List 500 1970-D halves at 1 cent no reserve and I GUARANTEE many of them won't even get to melt value.
Ya miss the point... Dealers check on ebay auction prices ,before setting their buy price..... not BIN price
If I was planning on selling a few sets i would use some Captain Obvious skills and just list as a BIN. I could give a rats azz if a dealer buys them or not. Can't say I have EVER knowingly sold to a dealer but have sold thousands of coins to Joe Normal's
@BigA said:
Last BIN NGC 70 set went for $182.75........Same label auction set $106.15 (one day later)...ER ..not FDI or Denver
Recent BIN raw sets $33.95, $33.77, $33.99....Raw auction sets $24.27 (x2), $21.50, $23.06 (x2),
Seems those that buy with BIN ..... have money to burn......Which is why BINs not good market barometer
Why don't you say what you really mean: BIN don't support your thesis, so you discount them.
Auctions are only representative of market value if their is balance between supply and the number of bidders. As I mentioned earlier, you can take any relatively common coin and easily flood the auction market, even the eBay market. List 500 1970-D halves at 1 cent no reserve and I GUARANTEE many of them won't even get to melt value.
Ya miss the point... Dealers check on ebay auction prices ,before setting their buy price..... not BIN price
Dude, I AM a dealer. I look at ALL prices on eBay, not auction prices. What I look at are SOLD items of both BIN and auction.
Especially for common items, you can't trust no reserve auction prices which is why I NEVER SELL THAT WAY.
Here's the last 5 sales of 1996 proof sets on eBay. A coin set that actually appears in Greysheet ($6 bid) and other value guides:
@BigA said:
So maybe ya don't have to sell to dealers....
If I was planning on selling a few sets i would use some Captain Obvious skills and just list as a BIN. I could give a rats azz if a dealer buys them or not. Can't say I have EVER knowingly sold to a dealer but have sold thousands of coins to Joe Normal's
Missing the point ..talking about value .. BIN prices not a barometer of value ...auction results are
@BigA said:
So maybe ya don't have to sell to dealers....
If I was planning on selling a few sets i would use some Captain Obvious skills and just list as a BIN. I could give a rats azz if a dealer buys them or not. Can't say I have EVER knowingly sold to a dealer but have sold thousands of coins to Joe Normal's
Missing the point ..talking about value .. BIN prices not a barometer of value ...auction results are
Again, simply NOT true. If you put one scarce coin up for auction you will get a measure of value. If you flood the market with common coins at auction you will not.
Even scarce coins can flood the market.
A friend of mine had been waiting to buy an Una the lion coin for YEARS. None had come out in a while. He bought one about 20 years for $25,000. Then another came out the following year and sold for $15,000. Had the coin really decreased in value? Probably not. My friend had overpaid, certainly. But once he was removed from the bidding, the number of people willing to go over $14,000 on the next example simply didn't exist. And, oddly, my friends example was inferior in quality to the $15,000 coin.
I myself bought a large cent at auction for $8500. The following year, 2016, I sold that coin at auction for $6000. By your logic, the large cent market had dropped 25% in a year. That is simply NOT true.
Look at these three coins:
1995-W PCGS Proof 70 Deep Cameo - April 2017 $22,326
Which is the right price? Has that coin dropped by $6,000 since April? Did the coin actually drop $2000 ON ONE DAY IN AUGUST (both those coins sold in the same Heritage auction on the same day)? Or did they simply run out of $20k bidders?
Auction results only represent true value if there is a supply/bidder balance which does not always exist. For you to pretend otherwise is either disingenuous or ignorant.
when I like something I tend to talk about it. When I dislike something I tend to stay away from it. There are folks on here who love to hate on something they don't like....I don't mean voice their opinion and move on, but just rag on it nonstop. If you don't like it why would you keep commenting on a thread or even have it bookmarked? Move on to the things you like....
@BigA said:
So maybe ya don't have to sell to dealers....
If I was planning on selling a few sets i would use some Captain Obvious skills and just list as a BIN. I could give a rats azz if a dealer buys them or not. Can't say I have EVER knowingly sold to a dealer but have sold thousands of coins to Joe Normal's
Missing the point ..talking about value .. BIN prices not a barometer of value ...auction results are
Simply untrue. Your thesis is that if we sell 10,000 coins for $50 each and there is one auction at $40, then the actual price of the coin is $40. That's ludicrous.
The barometer of value is whatever anyone is willing to pay by any means short of theft.
The WORST (day) estimate of value is multiple listings of a no reserve common item. I guarantee I could list 100 VF 1938 Buffalo Nickels for 1 cent free shipping no reserve and have many (most?) of them NOT EVEN SELL. I guarantee virtually none of them would get to Greysheet bid. It isn't because a 1938 Buff nickel has no value, it's that there aren't 100 people looking for them on eBay today.
Several posters here have more sets than they let on.....talking up sets will not bail them
In simple terms BINs are..... list prices..... auctions are true value prices... who wants to pay list price ?
Again, check my numerous examples that put the lie to your assertion. The more you insist that flooding a market with multiple hundreds of no reserve auctions determines REAL VALUE, the sillier you look.
BE is dumping sets which has temporarily created auction bargains. That MAY result in a permanently lowered price point as it pulls people out of the demand pool, but it is too soon to tell. But, quite frankly, the actual value of these sets is more uncertain now than it has been during the entire 4 months they've been out because of the dumping.
@bestday said:
BE sold 190.... 225th sets, in past week....on ebay ...... $22 - 30 most in $25 range
I count 170 from Dec 1st till now. But either number is in the ballpark They have about 75 more still running, but they haven't listed any new ones in the last two days, and they have a couple lots of 20 running, so maybe they are done.
Bullion Exchanges has stopped listing single set auctions. The last ones will be over in 3 days. INSTEAD, they have started listing giant auction lots of 20! Boy, if it weren't for me bidding those up, I wonder what they'd go for. You have to be a dealer or speculator to want that many sets.
It appears prices have stabilized again, right back where they've been all along (more or less)
NGC 70 sets in the $100 to $120 range. PCGS 70 sets in the $150 to $180 range. Raw sets in the $30 to $35 range.
In a lot of ways, this is an incredibly boring offering with the exception of the chaos of the 1st week or so. I also expect it to continue for the next few years. It's just not a set with the likelihood of rising appreciably nor dropping appreciably. My call remains ($40 to $50 2 years from now), based largely on the break up value of the sets. SP70 cents remain $30 to $40 coins and SP70 halves remain $25 coins.
Anecdotally, on raw coins I'm seeing stronger pricing on the dollar coins than previously with greater demand. Demand remains strong for halves and cents. Dimes and nickels remain weak. Quarter sets got hot recently in the $10-$12 range, but I haven't seen much action in the last week.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the New Year.
Also interesting how this product gets so many comments and will probably not go much over issue price for years. Check out the 2016 Annual Dollar set thread which sold for $49.95....minimal interest equals higher price I guess AND these are NOT coins that are special in ANY way. ...just the package
@BigA said:
Also interesting how this product gets so many comments and will probably not go much over issue price for years. Check out the 2016 Annual Dollar set thread which sold for $49.95....minimal interest equals higher price I guess AND these are NOT coins that are special in ANY way. ...just the package
You contribute quite a bit to the list of comments for this product.....
@dmwest said:
It will be interesting to see the numbers today...probably close to zero again....then maybe they will mark it sold out.....
I really don't know what they are doing. We are running out of 2017. With the holidays coming, if they haven't struck the last 14,000, are they really going to?
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BE is turning that slow drift into a full blown collapse
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-US-Mint-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-10-Coin-Set-W-Box-amp-COA-/222740338786?hash=item33dc5bd862:g:5X8AAOSwIwJZgios&nma=true&si=f4HZnFUFTojVenrWakzs3O7PKEs%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
this guy still has about 2,000 sets to sell
you post a lot coinp. you also post a lot in succession.
They are cutting their loses, nothing to see there...
the 1999 silver proof set was at 400 dollars at one time
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-United-States-mint-Silver-proof-complete-9-coin-set/112660453070?hash=item1a3b1616ce:g:n8UAAOSwv~1aHLJr
Yep. Interest in the states quarters has declined.
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
Just a temporary blip as they blow off their inventory. They've flooded the market with no reserve auctions and they can't get more than $25 to $28. Fixed price sales continue in the $32 to $37 range but are dwarfed by the BE blow off. When BE is out of inventory, we'll see where the price point lies.
In the end, this does not create any new sets. There's still only 225,000 cents and halves making it a scarce date in those two popular series.
Don't listen to the negativity.
I just don't understand BE's thinking......I asked them how many sets (up to 500) they'd be willing to sell direct at $22. I haven't heard back - and haven't checked all their closing auction prices but even if they're averaging $25 per on ebay they can't be netting any more than that after the fees and time involved in listing & shipping plus the money for the free shipping.. If you're willing to sell at that price why not sell them all at once and be done with it? In the meantime many others are still selling at a profit albeit in much lower quantities. Seems like they'd be making much more just by listing them buy it now at 29.95 and dropping the price a bit at a time if someone else undercut them.
Oddly, there BIN price is still $40.
They might be using them as loss leaders to get new customers. It is a tiny piece of their overall business.
Last BIN NGC 70 set went for $182.75........Same label auction set $106.15 (one day later)...ER ..not FDI or Denver
Recent BIN raw sets $33.95, $33.77, $33.99....Raw auction sets $24.27 (x2), $21.50, $23.06 (x2),
Seems those that buy with BIN ..... have money to burn......Which is why BINs not good market barometer
Why don't you say what you really mean: BIN don't support your thesis, so you discount them.
Auctions are only representative of market value if there is balance between supply and the number of bidders. As I mentioned earlier, you can take any relatively common coin and easily flood the auction market, even the eBay market. List 500 1970-D halves at 1 cent no reserve and I GUARANTEE many of them won't even get to melt value.
It is very hard to ascertain much about the market value based on the current eBay auction environment. It still appears to me that the price has not moved. Auctions are still $24 to $30. BIN are still $32 to $37. There are MORE $24 auctions than there used to be, but that is all because of BE dumping sets.
I'm actually modestly encouraged that the market is managing to absorb the hundreds of sets being dumped into it right now by BE.
I just broke up some more sets to sell as single coins or quarter sets. If anyone needs/wants anything, PM me.
I just want to know when will the Mint decide to mark this "Sold Out" or go ahead and release the remaining 15k, if they have them.
Don't quote me on that.
It's getting close to December 31st. I'm 99.99% sure they do NOT have the sets. I've assumed all along that they simply put these sets on the back burner: mint them if you get the chance. I would imagine that they will either become available before Christmas or be marked sold-out on January 2nd.
-3 (three) this past report
This is why I think it means it's done..... but I guess we will see....
Don't quote me on that.
Exactly...
Ya miss the point... Dealers check on ebay auction prices ,before setting their buy price..... not BIN price
So maybe ya don't have to sell to dealers....
If I was planning on selling a few sets i would use some Captain Obvious skills and just list as a BIN. I could give a rats azz if a dealer buys them or not. Can't say I have EVER knowingly sold to a dealer but have sold thousands of coins to Joe Normal's
Dude, I AM a dealer. I look at ALL prices on eBay, not auction prices. What I look at are SOLD items of both BIN and auction.
Especially for common items, you can't trust no reserve auction prices which is why I NEVER SELL THAT WAY.
Here's the last 5 sales of 1996 proof sets on eBay. A coin set that actually appears in Greysheet ($6 bid) and other value guides:
BIN $10.99 + $3 ship
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-United-States-Mint-Proof-Set/222746705289?hash=item33dcbcfd89:g:osgAAOSwO7hZ6j9~
BIN $5.99 +$2.95 shipping
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-s-U-S-Proof-set-Genuine-complete-and-original-as-issued-by-US-Mint/362170312799?hash=item545308685f:g:UhUAAOxyUgtTN084
Auction $8 + free shipping
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MBarr-1996-Proof-Set-United-States-5-Coins/362174821338?hash=item54534d33da:g:KHgAAOSwCtJaDu5y
Auction $6.50 + $3.48 SHIPPING - INCLUDES A 1990 MINT SET AND A 1990 PROOF SET ALSO!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Mint-US-Proof-Set-Lot-1996-Proof-Set-1990-Proof-Set-and-1990-Mint-Set/332472184315?hash=item4d68e2edfb:g:lCoAAOSwEEBaJJ-h
Auction $2.76 + $3 shipping
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-S-US-Mint-Proof-Coin-Set-US-Coins-AK1399/202129611296?epid=1731903801&hash=item2f0fdd1a20:g:5IkAAOSw1QpaHuNU
Prices range from $14 total down to $5.76 total.
Auction prices alone run from $8 down to $5.76
If you look more broadly, you'll find prices as cheap as $4 (total with shipping) and as high as $16.25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-S-Proof-Set-5-Coins/362162954927?hash=item54529822af:g:8N8AAOSwPpZaEQxD
And that's on FEWER SETS available than BE is dumping.
Melt up
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-US-Mint-225TH-Anniversary-Uncirculated-ENHANCED-10-Coin-Set-Wth-Box-COA/292291617338?epid=2154478261&hash=item440df0223a:g:N9gAAOSwaLhZgyjG
Wrong forum!
Not really. Don't you think every single person interested in these sets is here.
Hey... I didn't make the rules!
Missing the point ..talking about value .. BIN prices not a barometer of value ...auction results are
Again, simply NOT true. If you put one scarce coin up for auction you will get a measure of value. If you flood the market with common coins at auction you will not.
Even scarce coins can flood the market.
A friend of mine had been waiting to buy an Una the lion coin for YEARS. None had come out in a while. He bought one about 20 years for $25,000. Then another came out the following year and sold for $15,000. Had the coin really decreased in value? Probably not. My friend had overpaid, certainly. But once he was removed from the bidding, the number of people willing to go over $14,000 on the next example simply didn't exist. And, oddly, my friends example was inferior in quality to the $15,000 coin.
I myself bought a large cent at auction for $8500. The following year, 2016, I sold that coin at auction for $6000. By your logic, the large cent market had dropped 25% in a year. That is simply NOT true.
Look at these three coins:
1995-W PCGS Proof 70 Deep Cameo - April 2017 $22,326
https://coins.ha.com/itm/modern-bullion-coins/us-bullion-coins/1995-w-1-silver-eagle-pr70-deep-cameo-pcgs/a/1254-4383.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
1995-W PCGS Proof 70 Deep Cameo - August 2017 $18,800
https://coins.ha.com/itm/modern-bullion-coins/us-bullion-coins/1995-w-1-silver-eagle-pr70-deep-cameo-pcgs/a/1258-4237.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
1995-W PCGS Proof 70 Deep Cameo - August 2017 $16,450
https://coins.ha.com/itm/modern-bullion-coins/us-bullion-coins/1995-w-1-silver-eagle-pr70-deep-cameo-pcgs-secure/a/1258-4239.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
1995-W PCGS Proof 70 Deep Cameo - November 2017 $16,560
https://coins.ha.com/itm/modern-bullion-coins/us-bullion-coins/1995-w-1-silver-eagle-pr70-deep-cameo-pcgs/a/1261-17060.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
Which is the right price? Has that coin dropped by $6,000 since April? Did the coin actually drop $2000 ON ONE DAY IN AUGUST (both those coins sold in the same Heritage auction on the same day)? Or did they simply run out of $20k bidders?
Auction results only represent true value if there is a supply/bidder balance which does not always exist. For you to pretend otherwise is either disingenuous or ignorant.
when I like something I tend to talk about it. When I dislike something I tend to stay away from it. There are folks on here who love to hate on something they don't like....I don't mean voice their opinion and move on, but just rag on it nonstop. If you don't like it why would you keep commenting on a thread or even have it bookmarked? Move on to the things you like....
Don't quote me on that.
Simply untrue. Your thesis is that if we sell 10,000 coins for $50 each and there is one auction at $40, then the actual price of the coin is $40. That's ludicrous.
The barometer of value is whatever anyone is willing to pay by any means short of theft.
The WORST (day) estimate of value is multiple listings of a no reserve common item. I guarantee I could list 100 VF 1938 Buffalo Nickels for 1 cent free shipping no reserve and have many (most?) of them NOT EVEN SELL. I guarantee virtually none of them would get to Greysheet bid. It isn't because a 1938 Buff nickel has no value, it's that there aren't 100 people looking for them on eBay today.
Here ya go Bestie Buddy. eBay auction, ended today, $33 sale price. So, I guess that means the price of these sets is GOING UP?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-Coin-Set/272966215981?epid=9004947951&hash=item3f8e0de92d:g:OhkAAOSwKJRZgPQ~
Holy crap! Look at what's happened to the TRUE VALUE of both an Ike $ and, apparently, silver!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-BU-EISENHOWER-DOLLAR-BLUE-IKE-40-SILVER-LOW-COMBINED-SHIPPING/382297121387?hash=item5902af226b:g:fMUAAOSw0wRaEykc
I had to re-order these coins 5 times up till they finally sold out. They seem to keep moving along just fine.
Best place to buy !
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Several posters here have more sets than they let on.....talking up sets will not bail them
In simple terms BINs are..... list prices..... auctions are true value prices... who wants to pay list price ?
Again, check my numerous examples that put the lie to your assertion. The more you insist that flooding a market with multiple hundreds of no reserve auctions determines REAL VALUE, the sillier you look.
BE is dumping sets which has temporarily created auction bargains. That MAY result in a permanently lowered price point as it pulls people out of the demand pool, but it is too soon to tell. But, quite frankly, the actual value of these sets is more uncertain now than it has been during the entire 4 months they've been out because of the dumping.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquidation_value
Exactly...
BE sold 190.... 225th sets, in past week....on ebay ...... $22 - 30 most in $25 range
I count 170 from Dec 1st till now. But either number is in the ballpark They have about 75 more still running, but they haven't listed any new ones in the last two days, and they have a couple lots of 20 running, so maybe they are done.
Hey, look! An AUCTION - the certified Best Day Actual value of the set ($43.50 each!):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/FREE-S-H-2017-S-225TH-ANNIVERSARY-ENHANCED-UNC-10-COIN-SET-17XC-N-R-3-FULL-SETS/142614893532?epid=2154380548&hash=item21348293dc:g:WKYAAOSwWLBaIhdy
Bullion Exchanges has stopped listing single set auctions. The last ones will be over in 3 days. INSTEAD, they have started listing giant auction lots of 20! Boy, if it weren't for me bidding those up, I wonder what they'd go for. You have to be a dealer or speculator to want that many sets.
BE has a lot of 20 sets in a no reserve
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-20-2017-S-US-Mint-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-10-Coin-Set/182925952490?hash=item2a973c85ea:g:91EAAOSwkotaBdfp
more than one...if you're stocking up!
Non BE ebayer ..... sold a 3 pack for $75 bucks ..or $25 a set...... no sets on fire ..just snow and ice ..LOL
Is that an auction? After all, BIN don't count.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-S-225th-Anniversary-Enhanced-Uncirculated-Coin-Set-from-US-Mint-17XC/162783557593?epid=2157086496&hash=item25e6a7f7d9:g:SVwAAOSwridaIw8m
It appears prices have stabilized again, right back where they've been all along (more or less)
NGC 70 sets in the $100 to $120 range. PCGS 70 sets in the $150 to $180 range. Raw sets in the $30 to $35 range.
In a lot of ways, this is an incredibly boring offering with the exception of the chaos of the 1st week or so. I also expect it to continue for the next few years. It's just not a set with the likelihood of rising appreciably nor dropping appreciably. My call remains ($40 to $50 2 years from now), based largely on the break up value of the sets. SP70 cents remain $30 to $40 coins and SP70 halves remain $25 coins.
Anecdotally, on raw coins I'm seeing stronger pricing on the dollar coins than previously with greater demand. Demand remains strong for halves and cents. Dimes and nickels remain weak. Quarter sets got hot recently in the $10-$12 range, but I haven't seen much action in the last week.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the New Year.
Happy Holidays!
It will be interesting to see the numbers today...probably close to zero again....then maybe they will mark it sold out.....
Don't quote me on that.
Also interesting how this product gets so many comments and will probably not go much over issue price for years. Check out the 2016 Annual Dollar set thread which sold for $49.95....minimal interest equals higher price I guess AND these are NOT coins that are special in ANY way. ...just the package
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/991258/2016-annual-uncirculated-dollar-coin-set#latest
You contribute quite a bit to the list of comments for this product.....
Don't quote me on that.
I really don't know what they are doing. We are running out of 2017. With the holidays coming, if they haven't struck the last 14,000, are they really going to?
yes .. an auction price ......price started at.01