Warning to not to deal with forum member chiniu1976 - Alain P Sterk

rawteam1 · May 21, 2017 1:01PM

Just bringing this to the forefront and to have record posted, reason being this is his 3rd forum return via a different name, at least 2 previous being tee135 & tonedase ... real name Alain P Sterk...

He never fulfilled my order and never fully refunded the money after millions of nice guy posts that he was going to...

Aspie_Rocco · May 21, 2017 2:29PM

Bump for visibility

PerryHall · May 21, 2017 2:34PM

I remember having a problem with tee135.

mkman123 · May 21, 2017 2:52PM

Bump so others know this

Coinstartled · May 21, 2017 2:55PM

Bump cause people need to use Paypal (not the gift).

LindeDad · May 21, 2017 3:09PM

3% can be cheap insurance.

crazyhounddog · May 21, 2017 3:11PM

Note to self.
Do not do business with any of these guys.

hammer1 · May 21, 2017 3:26PM

Ebay allows you to block tee135

ChrisRx · May 21, 2017 5:16PM

ricko · May 22, 2017 5:56AM

Thanks for the 'heads up'...Forum alerts such as this are a definite benefit.... Cheers, RickO

bestday · May 22, 2017 7:09AM

@rawteam1 said:
Just bringing this to the forefront and to have record posted, reason being this is his 3rd forum return via a different name, at least 2 previous being tee135 & tonedase ... real name Alain P Sterk...

He never fulfilled my order and never fully refunded the money after millions of nice guy posts that he was going to...

Thanks for the head up ,, There are probably many others who have been scammed on BST who have not spoken up
Can you believe it ..some on BST still list items for sale they don't have possession. nor own
Scammers attracted to BST by the ease to take advantage of honest, trusting members
What's Moderator ??

tincup · May 22, 2017 7:36AM

Appreciate the info. The days of trusting all forum members is long gone... not as bad as ebay, but caution advised.

Coinstartled · May 22, 2017 7:43AM

@tincup said:
Appreciate the info. The days of trusting all forum members is long gone... not as bad as ebay, but caution advised.

Not sure that that day ever existed.

asheland · May 22, 2017 9:00AM

Thanks for the heads up!

johnny9434 · May 22, 2017 11:00AM

thanks for the warning/heads up

dm679864 · May 22, 2017 12:11PM

So I commented on a sale post, warning the seller that there had been bad things said about dealing with chiniu1976...I got this message from him!
I do not appriciate our negaive comments, so if you want to ask me anything do it in a message or else I will file a
complaint with D.Willis for your no proof, and there is not any becaue I have never taking advantage of anybody, so please remove your comment or else I will have to proceed with further activity
aps

rawteam1 · May 22, 2017 12:17PM

Proceed then... you think I'm stupid enough to erase all my pms I even kept mail correspondence... some people have some nerve... lol

rawteam1 · May 22, 2017 12:19PM

Oh, he can publicly respond in this thread if he would like to..,

bestday · May 22, 2017 12:22PM

@rawteam1 said:
Oh, he can publicly respond in this thread if he would like to..,

@rawteam1 said:
Oh, he can publicly respond in this thread if he would like to..,

His English looks familiar ... use PP ..this will cut down on the scammers at BST

Bochiman · May 22, 2017 12:23PM

I think I have seen that real name somewhere......trying to remember where....
rcc maybe? some other alt from before maybe?

I can't recall right now, but with a name like that, there can't be too many of them.

dm679864 · May 22, 2017 12:23PM

I told him to comment here if he wanted to clear things up:

I have responded long ago and will not go over all this, since you are new, u were not a member then
pls do not get involved unless you have proof, and you do not
any more and I guess I will persue this with Mr Willis

dm679864 · May 22, 2017 12:24PM

All because I shared the link to this thread with a fellow seller

BAJJERFAN · May 22, 2017 12:24PM

@rawteam1 said:
Proceed then... you think I'm stupid enough to erase all my pms I even kept mail correspondence... some people have some nerve... lol

Has anyone figured out how to delete PMs from the new software? Even NGC's new software has ALL of your old PMs even though you thought they were forever.

OPA · May 22, 2017 1:01PM

@hammer1 said:
Ebay allows you to block tee135

waste of time....he's NARU'd

OPA · May 22, 2017 1:08PM

@tincup said:
Appreciate the info. The days of trusting all forum members is long gone... not as bad as ebay, but caution advised.

Not so sure about your eBay statement. I suspect, percentage wise, they may even be greater on the BST, since there is no seller or buyer protection and members are still gullible enough to use PPG.

BAJJERFAN · May 22, 2017 1:32PM

@OPA said:

@tincup said:
Appreciate the info. The days of trusting all forum members is long gone... not as bad as ebay, but caution advised.

Not so sure about your eBay statement. I suspect, percentage wise, they may even be greater on the BST, since there is no seller or buyer protection and members are still gullible enough to use PPG.

I prefer PPCOT!

1630Boston · May 22, 2017 1:55PM

@rawteam1
Thanks for the info

rawteam1 · May 22, 2017 2:12PM

He is a major league bser he won't contact Don, another one of his modus operandi... I think I'll start calling him the toned blowfish...

Leroy · May 22, 2017 3:24PM

He's mad now because you exposed him and he can't run his scam on anyone else.

rawteam1 · May 22, 2017 5:19PM

up there in Bourbonnais, Illinois, I finally found some friends close enough to visit there...

dm679864 · May 22, 2017 5:28PM

@rawteam1 said:
He is a major league bser he won't contact Don, another one of his modus operandi... I think I'll start calling him the toned blowfish...

Yeah I told him, while your at it, pass me Mr Willis contact info, ill give him a call as well! He stopped replying to me after that

rawteam1 · May 23, 2017 11:01AM

Real simple man up and reimburse, how simple is that?, it is crazy to lose your name for such a small price...

bestday · May 23, 2017 6:07PM

@rawteam1 said:
Real simple man up and reimburse, how simple is that?, it is crazy to lose your name for such a small price...

He probably is too embarrassed, or he doesn't the money, or can't afford to pay up, and make it straight . Shame

abcde12345 · May 23, 2017 7:39PM

I guess not everyone deserves a second change.

MICHAELDIXON · May 23, 2017 7:53PM

@abcde12345 said:
I guess not everyone deserves a second change.

This is his third time on the boards using a different name. So...second chances are long gone. It's sad, but I had several positive dealings with Alain several years ago.

ChrisRx · May 23, 2017 7:56PM

Only deal within the circle of trust

oldgoldlover · May 23, 2017 9:53PM

@rawteam1 said:
Just bringing this to the forefront and to have record posted, reason being this is his 3rd forum return via a different name, at least 2 previous being tee135 & tonedase ... real name Alain P Sterk...

He never fulfilled my order and never fully refunded the money after millions of nice guy posts that he was going to...

If the mail was involved he committed mail fraud and the postal service does not like this, If the post office it is still fraud and I would go to the entity that was used to send your money . If you paid him with a c card call them and dispute the transaction as fraud is involved. They can reverse transactions within a certain time period.

rawteam1 · May 24, 2017 11:44AM

His MO is fraud, open 24hrs a day, 365 days a year... whoopdee do...

bestday · May 24, 2017 11:50AM

@oldgoldlover said:

@rawteam1 said:
Just bringing this to the forefront and to have record posted, reason being this is his 3rd forum return via a different name, at least 2 previous being tee135 & tonedase ... real name Alain P Sterk...

He never fulfilled my order and never fully refunded the money after millions of nice guy posts that he was going to...

If the mail was involved he committed mail fraud and the postal service does not like this, If the post office it is still fraud and I would go to the entity that was used to send your money . If you paid him with a c card call them and dispute the transaction as fraud is involved. They can reverse transactions within a certain time period.

Credit cards Cos will reverse within certain time limit from transaction date ..I have seen cards some have a 60 day limit

oldstandard · May 24, 2017 12:57PM

@rawteam1 said:
Just bringing this to the forefront and to have record posted, reason being this is his 3rd forum return via a different name, at least 2 previous being tee135 & tonedase ... real name Alain P Sterk...

Oh yes Alain out of Chicago know him well I fronted him some coins and never paid me for them. He would come up with the craziest stories and very strange replies I just cut my losses.

Timbuk3 · May 24, 2017 5:59PM

Thanks for the heads-up. I've been burned by
Silvereagle and Gregwash !!!

SONOMOSCA · May 30, 2017 5:33AM

Any update?

rawteam1 · May 30, 2017 6:54AM

Lol, you kidding ??? No criminal guilt?? Psychopath?? Most likely and will bless you while pickpocketing you... a real winner...

SONOMOSCA · May 30, 2017 7:29AM

I thought I'd ask since he's still on the BST looking to buy, pretty much just wanted to bump the thread to
keep the sellers and buyers aware. A permanent thread at the top of the page would be helpful with listing
names of thieves not to deal with.

CyndieChildress · May 30, 2017 8:12AM

@dm679864 said:
So I commented on a sale post, warning the seller that there had been bad things said about dealing with chiniu1976...I got this message from him!
I do not appriciate our negaive comments, so if you want to ask me anything do it in a message or else I will file a
complaint with D.Willis for your no proof, and there is not any becaue I have never taking advantage of anybody, so please remove your comment or else I will have to proceed with further activity
aps

WOW!

CyndieChildress · May 30, 2017 8:14AM

@dm679864 said:
All because I shared the link to this thread with a fellow seller

WE Appreciate people like YOU.!.

bestday · May 30, 2017 8:31AM

@SONOMOSCA said:
I thought I'd ask since he's still on the BST looking to buy, pretty much just wanted to bump the thread to
keep the sellers and buyers aware. A permanent thread at the top of the page would be helpful with listing
names of thieves not to deal with.

Excellent idea ..many more scammed on BST then let out in open .. keep the known ones be in spotlight
Shame some trusting ,honest members are being scammed out of sometimes, Hundreds of dollars.

Relaxn · May 30, 2017 8:57AM

But folks lets not forget some basic safety practices. Use paypal regular. Use a credit card linked to pp. Do your due diligence. If someone is selling 100 oz of silver well under market rates do not allow your greed to overwhelm your instincts. Scammers work because we dont take the proper precautions.

Caveat Emptor

oldstandard · May 30, 2017 11:04AM

@rawteam1 said:
Lol, you kidding ??? No criminal guilt?? Psychopath?? Most likely and will bless you while pickpocketing you... a real winner...

That's funny he would always tell me to have a blessed day and go on and on about the importance of god in your life.

bestday · May 30, 2017 11:30AM

@oldstandard said:

@rawteam1 said:
Lol, you kidding ??? No criminal guilt?? Psychopath?? Most likely and will bless you while pickpocketing you... a real winner...

That's funny he would always tell me to have a blessed day and go on and on about the importance of god in your life.

When someone mentions God in a financial deal HOLD ON... CHECK TO SEE IF YOU ARE BEING TAKEN

oldstandard · May 31, 2017 11:23AM

True I got taken

Warning to not to deal with forum member chiniu1976 - Alain P Sterk

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