My guess is date ghosting. Since it’s not labeled as “circulated”, it must have kept in an exposed environment to tone like that (or AT). Nice piece, I like it.
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There was a bunch of great Daniel Carr items that auctioned this weekend, I managed to snag a few myself , will share once everything is said and done.
There is a very interesting DC O/S listed on ebay right now, but the seller has the incorrect information attached to it, if I recall correctly. I'm pointing it out just in case anyone might be interested in snagging the piece.
It is an ICG graded Indian eagle O/S with a pair of Oregon Numismatic Society dies from 1946. On one side is the small beaver and on the other is the ONS information. However, the original dies are larger than an eagle so only the central portion of each die is O/S onto the coins. They make for a spectacular image, but the more modern 1946 date and society information does not appear on the O/S pieces. ICG was sloppy in the certification of this coin, in my opinion, because the cert lists is as an 1849 G$10 even though it is clearly O/S onto an Indian eagle. Also, the seller has it listed as being O/S using the original 1849 pair of dies, but this is also incorrect since the dies used were the 1946 ONS set.
@TomB said:
There is a very interesting DC O/S listed on ebay right now, but the seller has the incorrect information attached to it, if I recall correctly. I'm pointing it out just in case anyone might be interested in snagging the piece.
It is an ICG graded Indian eagle O/S with a pair of Oregon Numismatic Society dies from 1946. On one side is the small beaver and on the other is the ONS information. However, the original dies are larger than an eagle so only the central portion of each die is O/S onto the coins. They make for a spectacular image, but the more modern 1946 date and society information does not appear on the O/S pieces. ICG was sloppy in the certification of this coin, in my opinion, because the cert lists is as an 1849 G$10 even though it is clearly O/S onto an Indian eagle. Also, the seller has it listed as being O/S using the original 1849 pair of dies, but this is also incorrect since the dies used were the 1946 ONS set.
@TomB said:
There is a very interesting DC O/S listed on ebay right now, but the seller has the incorrect information attached to it, if I recall correctly. I'm pointing it out just in case anyone might be interested in snagging the piece.
It is an ICG graded Indian eagle O/S with a pair of Oregon Numismatic Society dies from 1946. On one side is the small beaver and on the other is the ONS information. However, the original dies are larger than an eagle so only the central portion of each die is O/S onto the coins. They make for a spectacular image, but the more modern 1946 date and society information does not appear on the O/S pieces. ICG was sloppy in the certification of this coin, in my opinion, because the cert lists is as an 1849 G$10 even though it is clearly O/S onto an Indian eagle. Also, the seller has it listed as being O/S using the original 1849 pair of dies, but this is also incorrect since the dies used were the 1946 ONS set.
@TomB said:
There is a very interesting DC O/S listed on ebay right now, but the seller has the incorrect information attached to it, if I recall correctly. I'm pointing it out just in case anyone might be interested in snagging the piece.
It is an ICG graded Indian eagle O/S with a pair of Oregon Numismatic Society dies from 1946. On one side is the small beaver and on the other is the ONS information. However, the original dies are larger than an eagle so only the central portion of each die is O/S onto the coins. They make for a spectacular image, but the more modern 1946 date and society information does not appear on the O/S pieces. ICG was sloppy in the certification of this coin, in my opinion, because the cert lists is as an 1849 G$10 even though it is clearly O/S onto an Indian eagle. Also, the seller has it listed as being O/S using the original 1849 pair of dies, but this is also incorrect since the dies used were the 1946 ONS set.
I have sent a message to the seller to let them know about the dies used.
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.That went quickly, to someone with very deep pockets . . . . . .
Z
I'm not certain it actually sold. The banner for the page says-
"This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing."
The seller also responded to my message on the ebay platform and asked for any additional information I had on the piece. I have since replied and sent a link to the PCGS boards.
The seller can thank me for the extra $500 or so (the next bid below me was $939). Happy Halloween!
Congrats to the winner!
I underbid on the 1837-O double strike on eBay last month. A friend saw my post, we made a deal, and I am now the proud owner of two (!) Seated Liberty double strikes.
@braddick said:
As cool as this Moonlight Mint creation is- AND IT IS!- wouldn't it have been even more so having it been struck on a 1964-D Kennedy instead of 1965?!
Yes, but note that the original "1964-D" Peace Dollars were minted (and then melted) in May of 1965.
I just got this one I won on EBay‼️This one’s kooler than I thought‼️ ‼️Ed,( the seller),sent a personal note with this, with a little history on this piece, and why the insert isn’t printed, but is in Dan’s own handwriting ‼️Love this piece even more now‼️
This seller is really good, got this quickly, and he refunded half my shipping fee because I had 2 pieces I won‼️
Something is going on with the mint mark,too, not sure what it is.
@EagleRJO said:
Don't all the originals come with the signed cert in the flip? Mine did.
Very few of my inserts are signed. Dan did that in the beginning but as volume has increased he can't. The only signed ones I have are for my 1908-O and 1848 CAL Double Eagles and the 2022 Saint.
Thats weird it got circulated after it was struck by Ed & Dan. Maybe it got tumbled after strike ?
I bought a pocket piece error from Daniel when I met him in 2012.
Something circulating in a pouch with other goodies.
Good Times !
@Nickpatton said:
I just got this one I won on EBay‼️This one’s kooler than I thought‼️ ‼️Ed,( the seller),sent a personal note with this, with a little history on this piece, and why the insert isn’t printed, but is in Dan’s own handwriting ‼️Love this piece even more now‼️
This seller is really good, got this quickly, and he refunded half my shipping fee because I had 2 pieces I won‼️
Something is going on with the mint mark,too, not sure what it is.
@pcgscacgold said:
Very few of my inserts are signed. Dan did that in the beginning but as volume has increased he can't. The only signed ones I have are for my 1908-O and 1848 CAL Double Eagles and the 2022 Saint.
Yea, I haven't acquired any of his more recent overstrikes, but some pretty amazing workmanship.
Don’t know how I did on this one.
The seller posted it as the date is a clashed date. In the eBay description it says weak date. I’m guessing that it is artificial toned.
The date has some doubling on the 9….. the 8 has a flat bottom .
Dan’s website says there were only 51 bag handled.
The certificate isn’t signed by Dan. I’m thinking if Dan did any “special “ work on this it would be signed by him.
Not sure what is going’s on with piece, but I like it ‼️
@Nickpatton said:
Don’t know how I did on this one.
The seller posted it as the date is a clashed date. In the eBay description it says weak date. I’m guessing that it is artificial toned.
The date has some doubling on the 9….. the 8 has a flat bottom .
Dan’s website says there were only 51 bag handled.
The certificate isn’t signed by Dan. I’m thinking if Dan did any “special “ work on this it would be signed by him.
Not sure what is going’s on with piece, but I like it ‼️
Some of the "bulk-handled" / "antiqued" issues have some color toning. I can't say for sure if that is the color that I released it with, or if it obtained some color afterwards.
The doubled "9" in the date is due to remnants of the original 9 of the host coin over-struck with the new 9 (slightly mis-registered). This particular host coin may have been slightly thinner in the date area and so there are some artifacts resulting from that. The flat-bottomed "8" is probably due to being over-struck on a 1922 host coin.
Thanks Dan…. I couldn’t resist this one….. and as with all Dan Carr pieces, this one looks better “ in hand” than the pictures show ‼️You never cease to amaze ‼️‼️‼️
I was excited to see the many early Carr collector treasures.
I am so happy I won all 4 items I really Needed/Wanted.
I bid on a few other goodies but laid off the pedal to save some gas just for these four.
1970 40% reminds me of a Gasparro picture/article from my childhood & 1975 Type 1 Bold Letters Reverse and CBS error, one of none. One of none is better than one of one. Makes my 2nd one of none from the house of Dan.
2018D on melted 90% unique to my archive & a 2009S VDB Wheatie:
What can I say ?
Sometimes I cannot shop when new drop occurs, then hours pass and poof it's gone...
I really wanted that Wheatie
;^)
@LindyS
Somewhere there are 5 super rare zoins creations and 4 more common ones. I haven’t seen them appear anywhere yet. When there are only 2-3 made and Dan owns 1 and zoins owns one the other will be easy to spot.
@LindyS said:
Your shipping loss still saddens me.
I have not slabbed any coin in 20 years and cannot see why I need to.
Downside of theft is devastating.
I concur. I have, well, a number of Dan's issues and have not slabbed any of them. True, some have begun to tone just a bit but I like them as he released them. These are accessible and really nice coins. I don't see how a slab is needed when they are all as he released them and untouched essentially since he sent them out to me. I guess I am considering slabbing the 1861 Confederate brass to hopefully hold its toning right where it is - I will post a view of it tomorrow.
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
@LindyS said:
Your shipping loss still saddens me.
I have not slabbed any coin in 20 years and cannot see why I need to.
Downside of theft is devastating.
I concur. I have, well, a number of Dan's issues and have not slabbed any of them. True, some have begun to tone just a bit but I like them as he released them. These are accessible and really nice coins. I don't see how a slab is needed when they are all as he released them and untouched essentially since he sent them out to me. I guess I am considering slabbing the 1861 Confederate brass to hopefully hold its toning right where it is - I will post a view of it tomorrow.
In my opinion, It’s all personal preference first but I can see the benefit of slabbing.
Personally, I like 2x2 archival flips for some pieces And slabs for others. Both can be presented nicely in a variety of display cases, albums, or storage compartments.
I guess if sheer volume was a factor then you could technically cram more flips in a tight space, but I don’t have that problem yet so please everyone send me all your carrs
I do like albums, but some are said to tone coins due to the materials in them which speak to the point of…
Slabs being hermetically sealed with inert ingredients to preserve the current state of a coin.
I’m guilty of improperly handling coins to their detriment, rim dings , handing them to someone, rim dings… a slab offers a bit more protection when dropped and other shenanigans.
There is also a liquidity factor.
If I’m buying or selling a large bullion coin, it always helps for me to have the extra authentication “opinion” of the TPGs.
Lots of auctions houses deal exclusively in slabs and their sheldon opinions.
With all that, there is risk involved.
Insurance can be had but there is the risk of loosing the piece and the actual cost of replacement , as in @pcgscacgold case with no replacement, it can be a devastating blow.
I am happy to see you were at least compensated for the purchase of your stolen items, and I’m glad to see you bounce back adding to your collection some really great DCarr pieces !
My first ANACS submission was a single coin, some may call a Keystone piece in my Daniel Carr - Clark Gruber collection.
I mulled over the idea of sending it in for the better part of a year before finally mailing it in.
They turned it around to me (registered mail) within a month and it was a relief to have it back in hand.
This was around the time that ANACS first started the picture service. I had selected that service and checked the site for an image the next month to no avail before calling them and finding out that that part was accidentally overlooked. They said to “just send it back for a free image” to which I declined do to the risks and costs associated with the extra trip.
As a courtesy they offered me a free grade and image…
Thanks @LukeMarshall I do hope to add some gold DC items like you have shown me. Your MS70 1934 Saint is outstanding. I also hope to find some 1/4 oz coins or 1/2 at some point. Those seem to be hoarded.
One thing I like about the slabbed coins is that ANACS does a great job of listing Die Pairs, host coin, etc. Some many of the DC items I buy do not have the insert. This makes it easy to know what I have.
Off the top of my head, I'll guess 70 % of my Carr goodies were purchased direct from Moonlight Mint.
What authentication do I need to assist a cash out ?
You all know what is Dan's versus the fleabay China crude copy Counterfeits.
Until recently, ANACS would not award 70's to obvious MS70.
Now they do. But CAC does not bean anything ANACS, right ?
What is the point of slabbing treasures, putting them in additional shipping jeopardy to encapsulate in holders that eager collectors of the big two automatically discount ?
GC auctions coinage goodies that are not slabbed.
That said I would love to acquire a PCGS Gold Shield 1964D PEACE. I have more than a roll of 64D Peace and I have no interest in playing the 6 month turn around game. Send away & pray...
But if I see a Gold Shield 64D Peace, that's something I would bid up to add to archive.
@pcgscacgold said:
Thanks @LukeMarshall I do hope to add some gold DC items like you have shown me. Your MS70 1934 Saint is outstanding. I also hope to find some 1/4 oz coins or 1/2 at some point. Those seem to be hoarded.
One thing I like about the slabbed coins is that ANACS does a great job of listing Die Pairs, host coin, etc. Some many of the DC items I buy do not have the insert. This makes it easy to know what I have.
LindyS……… You’re a poet and don’t know it‼️………… Send away & pray ‼️‼️That’s too good brother‼️….. I’ve done “exactly” that…. and worried until they got back. And I’m sure everyone “feels” for pcgscacgold’s loss…… everyone’s worst nightmare ‼️😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
FWIW, I stand on the side of "everything from Daniel / Moonlight Mint to ANACS". >90% of the Dan Carr / Moonlight Mint items have been purchased raw, and then sent in to ANACS. The only items that have not gone to ANACS are the 2 oz large diameter coins/medals that are too big for ANACS holders, which I self-slab.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
I send most of mine off too………. A lots of older pieces I’ve bought have uneven toning,( at the top of the piece, do to the “air gap” in the flip), I always try to put them in some kind of air tight environment. I bought a whole plastic page (9 pieces) in the page, at least 6 years in that page, and none of them had any toning on them at all …… so plastic page with Dan’s original coin flip works well too‼️
Another ANACS benefit: Helps prevent numismatically-clueless folks (i.e., my heirs) from naively misrepresenting my Carr fantasy overstrikes to potential buyers.
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@COCollector said:
Another ANACS benefit: Helps prevent numismatically-clueless folks (i.e., my heirs) from naively misrepresenting my Carr fantasy overstrikes to potential buyers.
Yes! ...and a spread sheet that includes mintage figures (and even grade population figures)
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
@COCollector said:
Another ANACS benefit: Helps prevent numismatically-clueless folks (i.e., my heirs) from naively misrepresenting my Carr fantasy overstrikes to potential buyers.
Yes! ...and a spread sheet that includes mintage figures (and even grade population figures)
I cheated and printed color copies of the Moonlight Mint PDF's
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My guess is date ghosting. Since it’s not labeled as “circulated”, it must have kept in an exposed environment to tone like that (or AT). Nice piece, I like it.
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Superb piece @Twobitcollector ! I've been looking for one of those.
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I have one of those as well.
@Nickpatton congrats on the sweet ebay pickups!
There was a bunch of great Daniel Carr items that auctioned this weekend, I managed to snag a few myself , will share once everything is said and done.
It's all about what the people want...
There is a very interesting DC O/S listed on ebay right now, but the seller has the incorrect information attached to it, if I recall correctly. I'm pointing it out just in case anyone might be interested in snagging the piece.
It is an ICG graded Indian eagle O/S with a pair of Oregon Numismatic Society dies from 1946. On one side is the small beaver and on the other is the ONS information. However, the original dies are larger than an eagle so only the central portion of each die is O/S onto the coins. They make for a spectacular image, but the more modern 1946 date and society information does not appear on the O/S pieces. ICG was sloppy in the certification of this coin, in my opinion, because the cert lists is as an 1849 G$10 even though it is clearly O/S onto an Indian eagle. Also, the seller has it listed as being O/S using the original 1849 pair of dies, but this is also incorrect since the dies used were the 1946 ONS set.
The listing is here-
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255828456703?hash=item3b909074ff:g:4SAAAOSws8xjcyAj&amdata=enc:AQAHAAAAoNzi3ZHwBU8dtz/6W8iqU1C5kVf1GbbfCEXndMQygHIMRnj0LWD2jE8TJQnTiq/jgRw6L3Cm1I2MUa0KEmVgIK9WkotHCoQ5mHxcDSdQ+MZxLjrcEjzLaMnpk4kywOHRq90y7wH/9XQhdlaCPkpohkWn3Ji2uDD/moCYqqJpauZs6B/+AgVp0HzV19swO/l8SEszTGkRzIBqaKTpvmsy6Rs=|tkp:Bk9SR76mkMSPYQ
I have sent a message to the seller to let them know about the dies used.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
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.That went quickly, to someone with very deep pockets . . . . . .
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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.> @ZoidMeister said:
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Looks like it didn't sell...
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I'm not certain it actually sold. The banner for the page says-
"This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing."
The seller also responded to my message on the ebay platform and asked for any additional information I had on the piece. I have since replied and sent a link to the PCGS boards.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
I underbid on the 1837-O double strike on eBay last month. A friend saw my post, we made a deal, and I am now the proud owner of two (!) Seated Liberty double strikes.
Here's a 1874-CC double strike (on an 1871):
Here's the 1837-O double strike (on an 1873):
As cool as this Moonlight Mint creation is- AND IT IS!- wouldn't it have been even more so having it been struck on a 1964-D Kennedy instead of 1965?!
peacockcoins
Missd this one be 2 seconds and $9👀‼️‼️😱😱😱😱😱
The gold version is sporting the "medal" alignment instead of "coin" alignment. Looked like a nice set!
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I saw that too…. Only 28 out 181‼️‼️‼️😱😱😱😱
Yes, but note that the original "1964-D" Peace Dollars were minted (and then melted) in May of 1965.
^
Good point!
peacockcoins
I just got this one I won on EBay‼️This one’s kooler than I thought‼️ ‼️Ed,( the seller),sent a personal note with this, with a little history on this piece, and why the insert isn’t printed, but is in Dan’s own handwriting ‼️Love this piece even more now‼️
This seller is really good, got this quickly, and he refunded half my shipping fee because I had 2 pieces I won‼️
Something is going on with the mint mark,too, not sure what it is.
Don't all the originals come with the signed cert in the flip? Mine did.
Older D. Carr pieces have actual signatures. A lot of the newer pieces have printed signatures.
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Very few of my inserts are signed. Dan did that in the beginning but as volume has increased he can't. The only signed ones I have are for my 1908-O and 1848 CAL Double Eagles and the 2022 Saint.
Successful BST with BustDMs , Pnies20, lkeigwin, pursuitofliberty, Bullsitter, felinfoel, SPalladino (CBH's - 37 Die Marriage's)
$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
Thats weird it got circulated after it was struck by Ed & Dan. Maybe it got tumbled after strike ?
I bought a pocket piece error from Daniel when I met him in 2012.
Something circulating in a pouch with other goodies.
Good Times !
Yea, I haven't acquired any of his more recent overstrikes, but some pretty amazing workmanship.
This arrived from the same seller ^^^.
@LindyS , is Ed a member here? Could you PM me his screen name?
Thanks in advance.
Z
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Oh yeah, what I got from him.
2016 MMOH Double Struck over a 40% Silver Eisenhower.
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Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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This MMOH is from Ed.
I bought a few, maybe a dozen or so Carrs outside of fleabay a few years ago, but I don't think he lived in Texas back then.
Look at address on your package, look at his name.
;^)
I’ll message you here ZoidMeister ‼️Gimmie a minute.or LindyS
I would assume Ed has a handle here. No clue if that's correct.
I also assumed he had more Carrs to list and I confirmed last week he now has zero.
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He responded to me in the negative. No presence on CU.
Z
Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!
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He never answered my email (Ed).
( I was hoping he had more‼️)
He had some kool stuff‼️
Don’t know how I did on this one.
The seller posted it as the date is a clashed date. In the eBay description it says weak date. I’m guessing that it is artificial toned.
The date has some doubling on the 9….. the 8 has a flat bottom .
Dan’s website says there were only 51 bag handled.
The certificate isn’t signed by Dan. I’m thinking if Dan did any “special “ work on this it would be signed by him.
Not sure what is going’s on with piece, but I like it ‼️
Some of the "bulk-handled" / "antiqued" issues have some color toning. I can't say for sure if that is the color that I released it with, or if it obtained some color afterwards.
The doubled "9" in the date is due to remnants of the original 9 of the host coin over-struck with the new 9 (slightly mis-registered). This particular host coin may have been slightly thinner in the date area and so there are some artifacts resulting from that. The flat-bottomed "8" is probably due to being over-struck on a 1922 host coin.
Thanks Dan…. I couldn’t resist this one….. and as with all Dan Carr pieces, this one looks better “ in hand” than the pictures show ‼️You never cease to amaze ‼️‼️‼️
I was excited to see the many early Carr collector treasures.
I am so happy I won all 4 items I really Needed/Wanted.
I bid on a few other goodies but laid off the pedal to save some gas just for these four.
1970 40% reminds me of a Gasparro picture/article from my childhood & 1975 Type 1 Bold Letters Reverse and CBS error, one of none. One of none is better than one of one. Makes my 2nd one of none from the house of Dan.
2018D on melted 90% unique to my archive & a 2009S VDB Wheatie:
What can I say ?
Sometimes I cannot shop when new drop occurs, then hours pass and poof it's gone...
I really wanted that Wheatie
;^)
Nice pieces Mr.Lindy....
My NEN shipment came today. I had almost given up on collecting DC things. Even sent 4 items to GC that end next Sunday.
Having all those really cool ones stolen last year bugged me for a while.
Nice to see some have the inserts and some inserts are signed. Good to be back.
Successful BST with BustDMs , Pnies20, lkeigwin, pursuitofliberty, Bullsitter, felinfoel, SPalladino (CBH's - 37 Die Marriage's)
$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
Your shipping loss still saddens me.
I have not slabbed any coin in 20 years and cannot see why I need to.
Downside of theft is devastating.
@LindyS
Somewhere there are 5 super rare zoins creations and 4 more common ones. I haven’t seen them appear anywhere yet. When there are only 2-3 made and Dan owns 1 and zoins owns one the other will be easy to spot.
Successful BST with BustDMs , Pnies20, lkeigwin, pursuitofliberty, Bullsitter, felinfoel, SPalladino (CBH's - 37 Die Marriage's)
$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
I concur. I have, well, a number of Dan's issues and have not slabbed any of them. True, some have begun to tone just a bit but I like them as he released them. These are accessible and really nice coins. I don't see how a slab is needed when they are all as he released them and untouched essentially since he sent them out to me. I guess I am considering slabbing the 1861 Confederate brass to hopefully hold its toning right where it is - I will post a view of it tomorrow.
Well, just Love coins, period.
In my opinion, It’s all personal preference first but I can see the benefit of slabbing.
Personally, I like 2x2 archival flips for some pieces And slabs for others. Both can be presented nicely in a variety of display cases, albums, or storage compartments.
I guess if sheer volume was a factor then you could technically cram more flips in a tight space, but I don’t have that problem yet so please everyone send me all your carrs
I do like albums, but some are said to tone coins due to the materials in them which speak to the point of…
Slabs being hermetically sealed with inert ingredients to preserve the current state of a coin.
I’m guilty of improperly handling coins to their detriment, rim dings , handing them to someone, rim dings… a slab offers a bit more protection when dropped and other shenanigans.
There is also a liquidity factor.
If I’m buying or selling a large bullion coin, it always helps for me to have the extra authentication “opinion” of the TPGs.
Lots of auctions houses deal exclusively in slabs and their sheldon opinions.
With all that, there is risk involved.
Insurance can be had but there is the risk of loosing the piece and the actual cost of replacement , as in @pcgscacgold case with no replacement, it can be a devastating blow.
I am happy to see you were at least compensated for the purchase of your stolen items, and I’m glad to see you bounce back adding to your collection some really great DCarr pieces !
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It's all about what the people want...
On a personal note and pertaining to slabbing…
My first ANACS submission was a single coin, some may call a Keystone piece in my Daniel Carr - Clark Gruber collection.
I mulled over the idea of sending it in for the better part of a year before finally mailing it in.
They turned it around to me (registered mail) within a month and it was a relief to have it back in hand.
This was around the time that ANACS first started the picture service. I had selected that service and checked the site for an image the next month to no avail before calling them and finding out that that part was accidentally overlooked. They said to “just send it back for a free image” to which I declined do to the risks and costs associated with the extra trip.
As a courtesy they offered me a free grade and image…
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It's all about what the people want...
Thanks @LukeMarshall I do hope to add some gold DC items like you have shown me. Your MS70 1934 Saint is outstanding. I also hope to find some 1/4 oz coins or 1/2 at some point. Those seem to be hoarded.
One thing I like about the slabbed coins is that ANACS does a great job of listing Die Pairs, host coin, etc. Some many of the DC items I buy do not have the insert. This makes it easy to know what I have.
Shipping occurs regardless of slabbing.
Successful BST with BustDMs , Pnies20, lkeigwin, pursuitofliberty, Bullsitter, felinfoel, SPalladino (CBH's - 37 Die Marriage's)
$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
Off the top of my head, I'll guess 70 % of my Carr goodies were purchased direct from Moonlight Mint.
What authentication do I need to assist a cash out ?
You all know what is Dan's versus the fleabay China crude copy Counterfeits.
Until recently, ANACS would not award 70's to obvious MS70.
Now they do. But CAC does not bean anything ANACS, right ?
What is the point of slabbing treasures, putting them in additional shipping jeopardy to encapsulate in holders that eager collectors of the big two automatically discount ?
GC auctions coinage goodies that are not slabbed.
That said I would love to acquire a PCGS Gold Shield 1964D PEACE. I have more than a roll of 64D Peace and I have no interest in playing the 6 month turn around game. Send away & pray...
But if I see a Gold Shield 64D Peace, that's something I would bid up to add to archive.
LindyS……… You’re a poet and don’t know it‼️………… Send away & pray ‼️‼️That’s too good brother‼️….. I’ve done “exactly” that…. and worried until they got back. And I’m sure everyone “feels” for pcgscacgold’s loss…… everyone’s worst nightmare ‼️😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
FWIW, I stand on the side of "everything from Daniel / Moonlight Mint to ANACS". >90% of the Dan Carr / Moonlight Mint items have been purchased raw, and then sent in to ANACS. The only items that have not gone to ANACS are the 2 oz large diameter coins/medals that are too big for ANACS holders, which I self-slab.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
I send most of mine off too………. A lots of older pieces I’ve bought have uneven toning,( at the top of the piece, do to the “air gap” in the flip), I always try to put them in some kind of air tight environment. I bought a whole plastic page (9 pieces) in the page, at least 6 years in that page, and none of them had any toning on them at all …… so plastic page with Dan’s original coin flip works well too‼️
Majority of mine are in Dan’s flips in an Intercept shield box with zero toning
Another ANACS benefit: Helps prevent numismatically-clueless folks (i.e., my heirs) from naively misrepresenting my Carr fantasy overstrikes to potential buyers.
Successful BST transactions with forum members thebigeng, SPalladino, Zoidmeister, coin22lover, coinsarefun, jwitten, CommemKing.
Yes! ...and a spread sheet that includes mintage figures (and even grade population figures)
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
I cheated and printed color copies of the Moonlight Mint PDF's
Successful BST with BustDMs , Pnies20, lkeigwin, pursuitofliberty, Bullsitter, felinfoel, SPalladino (CBH's - 37 Die Marriage's)
$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572