@1940coupe said:
Dan car WHILE MOST PEOPLE on this forum agree with everything you say and there is a word for that a lot of people included myself are very disappointed with your new 1964 peace dollar destroying the price of original so my question is which coin will you destroy next ? for your monetary gain ?I think you should stop making your new die now !
His original 1964s were the 4 rays variety, the new ones are the 3 rays variety. He hasn't destroyed anything, just added a new variety.
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Here is something you don't see too often -- a recent pickup!
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Cool Design !
I thought we are in the hole at 27 Trillion
Maybe issue these monthly with updated national debt ?
Its seems our USA debt was 23.3 Trillion plus interest in beginning of February 2020.
A lot has happened since then.
I was thinking along those same lines, but I don't know if Dan could keep up with the modifications in the die & design fast enough at this point.
Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally
Not exactly news, but an April 3rd Coin World article states: "On March 10, 2020, numismatist Daniel Carr from the private Moonlight Mint in Colorado, posted information on the Collectors Universe U.S. Coins Forum, that in late 2019 he had obtained from the Mint an image of a 1964 Peace dollar master die..."
@Kudbegud said:
I learn something every day on this forum. Thanks Dan and the other posters.
An off thread question for you Dan while you are here. With the possible minting of Morgan and Peace dollars in 2021 (if the bill passes) will you be doing a couple in your own style?
Yes, I expect to have several "1921" Morgan and Peace items.
I shall look forward to seeing how you deal with the fact that 1921 Morgan and Peace dollars DO exist, unlike 1964-D dollars which may or may not exist.
@jmski52 said: Cool Design !
I thought we are in the hole at 27 Trillion
Maybe issue these monthly with updated national debt ?
Its seems our USA debt was 23.3 Trillion plus interest in beginning of February 2020.
A lot has happened since then.
I was thinking along those same lines, but I don't know if Dan could keep up with the modifications in the die & design fast enough at this point.
The National debt is 23.9 trillion today, principal only. The interest going forward might be around 1-2% if things keep going downhill and they refinance at current Fed rates and create a 50-year treasury bond to spread out the payments into the future helping to "reduce the deficit". The 2 trillion, plus extra, from the recent virus borrowing would lead me to believe $30 trillion by the end of the year is a safe bet. However, $25 Trillion is close enough for government work...and the "To Infinity and Beyond" pretty much already covers for the increases in the future.
I already ordered 5 for gifts, and had to get the 2020 $100 silver Union once I saw it.
Does anyone know if Daniel changed his catalog numbers throughout the years? I'm trying to look up some of my coins and am finding a lot that the catalog numbers in my orders do not match anything on his website.
Example: cg_60_2016_ms I think is now CG_SE_2016_MS.
@jessewvu said:
Does anyone know if Daniel changed his catalog numbers throughout the years? I'm trying to look up some of my coins and am finding a lot that the catalog numbers in my orders do not match anything on his website.
Example: cg_60_2016_ms I think is now CG_SE_2016_MS.
The "Item Number" shown on the store product page is often different than the "Catalog #" listed in the catalog. The Catalog numbers sometimes are changed after the fact if a new version is produced and some differentiation is needed. It doesn't always make sense, but that is how things "evolved".
@OPA said:
D Carr:
When do you anticipate production to begin and how many CV 19 medals will be produced? Is there a possible proof version in the future?
I just finished making the first 146. The final mintage is yet to be determined. I do not plan any proof version.
@OPA said:
D Carr:
When do you anticipate production to begin and how many CV 19 medals will be produced? Is there a possible proof version in the future?
I just finished making the first 146. The final mintage is yet to be determined. I do not plan any proof version.
Thanks for the "heads-up"
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@1940coupe said:
he will make them next year and next year and the year after AND IN TEN YEARS IF MONEY IS THERE HE WILL MAKE THEM AGAIN !
It's obvious that you are not happy with the way that Dan is doing business. Why do you even bother accessing this thread?
BECAUSE BELIEVE ME DONT BELIEVE i SPENT THOUSAND OF DOLLARS ON HIS 1964 DOLLARS PROOF AND DIE 5 AND 6 WE ARE TALKING HE SAID HE HAS NO INTEREST IN MAKING SAME COINS AGAIN YET HE DID 1 I will do WHAT ever I wANT
@1940coupe said:
he will make them next year and next year and the year after AND IN TEN YEARS IF MONEY IS THERE HE WILL MAKE THEM AGAIN !
If there is a repeat episode next year I might make more then ... with updated debt numbers and a "2021" date.
NO YOU WILL MAKE WANT YOU WANT IT DONT MATTER THE DATE
So it looks like you have a point. You bought something TO MAKE MONEY and it didn't work out for you because more were made. I don't hear any of those lucky people who got the re-issue YELLING and bleeding foul! You'll get over it,
@dcarr said:
If there is a repeat episode next year I might make more then ... with updated debt numbers and a "2021" date.
This is an event unlike anything mankind has ever seen before and deserves to be memorialized to be remembered. I hope we are done with it soon but should it resurface next year I think it very appropiate to strike new tokens with the 2021 date.
@1940coupe said:
he will make them next year and next year and the year after AND IN TEN YEARS IF MONEY IS THERE HE WILL MAKE THEM AGAIN !
If there is a repeat episode next year I might make more then ... with updated debt numbers and a "2021" date.
NO YOU WILL MAKE WANT YOU WANT IT DONT MATTER THE DATE
So it looks like you have a point. You bought something TO MAKE MONEY and it didn't work out for you because more were made. I don't hear any of those lucky people who got the re-issue YELLING and bleeding foul! You'll get over it,
SO YOU TRUST SOMEBODY AND THY STICK YOU HOW DO DEAL WITH THAT I HOPE THE WORST FOR HIM gov INTERVENTION
@dcarr said:
If there is a repeat episode next year I might make more then ... with updated debt numbers and a "2021" date.
This is an event unlike anything mankind has ever seen before and deserves to be memorialized to be remembered. I hope we are done with it soon but should it resurface next year I think it very appropiate to strike new tokens with the 2021 date.
@dcarr said:
If there is a repeat episode next year I might make more then ... with updated debt numbers and a "2021" date.
This is an event unlike anything mankind has ever seen before and deserves to be memorialized to be remembered. I hope we are done with it soon but should it resurface next year I think it very appropiate to strike new tokens with the 2021 date.
DO HAVE TO SAY A RESPONSE CAUSE WE KNOW HOW DELICATE YOU ARE
@dcarr said:
If there is a repeat episode next year I might make more then ... with updated debt numbers and a "2021" date.
This is an event unlike anything mankind has ever seen before and deserves to be memorialized to be remembered. I hope we are done with it soon but should it resurface next year I think it very appropiate to strike new tokens with the 2021 date.
@dcarr said:
If there is a repeat episode next year I might make more then ... with updated debt numbers and a "2021" date.
This is an event unlike anything mankind has ever seen before and deserves to be memorialized to be remembered. I hope we are done with it soon but should it resurface next year I think it very appropiate to strike new tokens with the 2021 date.
DO HAVE TO SAY A RESPONSE CAUSE WE KNOW HOW DELICATE YOU ARE
I think you would be better off to keep your mouth closed as I don't think this is going to end well for you again. >
@dcarr said:
If there is a repeat episode next year I might make more then ... with updated debt numbers and a "2021" date.
This is an event unlike anything mankind has ever seen before and deserves to be memorialized to be remembered. I hope we are done with it soon but should it resurface next year I think it very appropiate to strike new tokens with the 2021 date.
@dcarr said:
If there is a repeat episode next year I might make more then ... with updated debt numbers and a "2021" date.
This is an event unlike anything mankind has ever seen before and deserves to be memorialized to be remembered. I hope we are done with it soon but should it resurface next year I think it very appropiate to strike new tokens with the 2021 date.
DO HAVE TO SAY A RESPONSE CAUSE WE KNOW HOW DELICATE YOU ARE
I think you would be better off to keep your mouth closed as I don't think this is going to end well for you again. >
@dcarr said:
If there is a repeat episode next year I might make more then ... with updated debt numbers and a "2021" date.
This is an event unlike anything mankind has ever seen before and deserves to be memorialized to be remembered. I hope we are done with it soon but should it resurface next year I think it very appropiate to strike new tokens with the 2021 date.
@dcarr said:
If there is a repeat episode next year I might make more then ... with updated debt numbers and a "2021" date.
This is an event unlike anything mankind has ever seen before and deserves to be memorialized to be remembered. I hope we are done with it soon but should it resurface next year I think it very appropiate to strike new tokens with the 2021 date.
DO HAVE TO SAY A RESPONSE CAUSE WE KNOW HOW DELICATE YOU ARE
I think you would be better off to keep your mouth closed as I don't think this is going to end well for you again. >
Many people on here know me and I had at one time one of the largest DC collections at one time. I agree with 1940coupe and that is the exact reason I have been selling all of them off. Never lost more money in my life. Not a very wise investment. If your interested I have a pile of DC junk silver.
@Mfriday4962 said:
Many people on here know me and I had at one time one of the largest DC collections at one time. I agree with 1940coupe and that the exact reason I have been selling all of them off. Never lost more money in my life. Not a very wise investment. If your interested I have a pile of DC junk silver.
thank you ! he ruined his self people on can kid their self but his stuff is at bullion value didnt buy it for resale bought for investment someday
The issue at that time related to my selling of certain items in person at the Summer ANA Denver show (some of those items were imaged in this thread by the buyer). For the record, that buyer paid fair market prices for them. But that person had also helped me out quite a bit at my rather large table space that I had at that show.
Anyway, @coupe1940 has not been excluded from obtaining unusual items, such as the double over-struck "1816" bust (see avatar), a recent double-over-struck "1964-D" Peace Die Pair 9, and maybe some others that I don't recall right now.
The issue at that time related to my selling of certain items in person at the Summer ANA Denver show (some of those items were imaged in this thread by the buyer). For the record, that buyer paid fair market prices for them. But that person had also helped me out quite a bit at my rather large table space that I had at that show.
Anyway, @coupe1940 has not been excluded from obtaining unusual items, such as the double over-struck "1816" bust (see avatar), a recent double-over-struck "1964-D" Peace Die Pair 9, and maybe some others that I don't recall right now.
I bought on ebay didn't get special price like you give people
I think @1940coupe has a great collection. He has an abundance of super-rare double struck pieces. I think he had like 3-4 of the double struck 1816 CBHs before I knew they even existed. I've always been impressed by his collection and focus. I wasn't aware he had any of the regular issue pieces mentioned above based on what he posted in the past, but at least the 1964 proof-like Peace dollars are rare and no more proof-likes have been struck. It's a shame that he's soured on Dan's pieces.
The issue at that time related to my selling of certain items in person at the Summer ANA Denver show (some of those items were imaged in this thread by the buyer). For the record, that buyer paid fair market prices for them. But that person had also helped me out quite a bit at my rather large table space that I had at that show.
Anyway, @coupe1940 has not been excluded from obtaining unusual items, such as the double over-struck "1816" bust (see avatar), a recent double-over-struck "1964-D" Peace Die Pair 9, and maybe some others that I don't recall right now.
I bought on ebay didn't get special price like you give people
You didn't buy them all on eBay. You got at least one, maybe more, as a "special offer". Note that most of the multi-over-struck pieces that I sold were initially priced not far off what they would probably net on eBay. So it wasn't so much a special price offer. The special offer was a chance to just get one in the first place.
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Fast work there AK!!!!
Thank Mr Carr!
@dcarr - will this be struck in copper as well?
My Eisenhower Dollar Complete Variety Set, Circulation Strikes and Proof (PCGS Registry):
https://www.PCGS.com/SetRegistry/dollars/eisenhower-dollars-specialty-sets/eisenhower-dollars-complete-variety-set-circulation-strikes-proof-1971-1978/publishedset/119137
Darth Morgan - "The Other Ike Dollars" Showcase: https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/showcase/3354
The Eisenhower Dollar Meeting Room: https://www.facebook.com/groups/933585237044733
I am planning to do only the one silver version.
@dcarr
I was curious about how you make your circulated versions, are they just run thru a sorter multiple times or a tumbler of some kind?
They look really good and even.
I have a couple different methods. One does involve a "tumbler". The details are a trade secret, however
His original 1964s were the 4 rays variety, the new ones are the 3 rays variety. He hasn't destroyed anything, just added a new variety.
Welcome @Atcarroll to the discussion!
Cool Design !
I thought we are in the hole at 27 Trillion
Maybe issue these monthly with updated national debt ?
Its seems our USA debt was 23.3 Trillion plus interest in beginning of February 2020.
A lot has happened since then.
Had to order the one posted above.
And, I did not order anything else, hard to believe!
I think Dan makes some fantastic coins! He is clearly a mad scientist of coinage....Impressive to say the least.
What is the mintage going to be? Preorder total? How long is preorder window?
Here is something you don't see too often -- a recent pickup!
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Cool Design !
I thought we are in the hole at 27 Trillion
Maybe issue these monthly with updated national debt ?
Its seems our USA debt was 23.3 Trillion plus interest in beginning of February 2020.
A lot has happened since then.
I was thinking along those same lines, but I don't know if Dan could keep up with the modifications in the die & design fast enough at this point.
I knew it would happen.
Not exactly news, but an April 3rd Coin World article states: "On March 10, 2020, numismatist Daniel Carr from the private Moonlight Mint in Colorado, posted information on the Collectors Universe U.S. Coins Forum, that in late 2019 he had obtained from the Mint an image of a 1964 Peace dollar master die..."
Master die exists at Philadelphia Mint for 1964 Peace dollar
Successful BST transactions with forum members thebigeng, SPalladino, Zoidmeister, coin22lover, coinsarefun, jwitten, CommemKing.
Moved here from another thread:
One possibility is a 50mm format like this:
But with wording like this:
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These look beautiful!!! By jove Dan, you've done it again!
The National debt is 23.9 trillion today, principal only. The interest going forward might be around 1-2% if things keep going downhill and they refinance at current Fed rates and create a 50-year treasury bond to spread out the payments into the future helping to "reduce the deficit". The 2 trillion, plus extra, from the recent virus borrowing would lead me to believe $30 trillion by the end of the year is a safe bet. However, $25 Trillion is close enough for government work...and the "To Infinity and Beyond" pretty much already covers for the increases in the future.
I already ordered 5 for gifts, and had to get the 2020 $100 silver Union once I saw it.
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
Just ordered the Covid 2020. Proof of life after this event makes this a worthy memento. Peace Roy
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Does anyone know if Daniel changed his catalog numbers throughout the years? I'm trying to look up some of my coins and am finding a lot that the catalog numbers in my orders do not match anything on his website.
Example: cg_60_2016_ms I think is now CG_SE_2016_MS.
D Carr:
When do you anticipate production to begin and how many CV 19 medals will be produced? Is there a possible proof version in the future?
The "Item Number" shown on the store product page is often different than the "Catalog #" listed in the catalog. The Catalog numbers sometimes are changed after the fact if a new version is produced and some differentiation is needed. It doesn't always make sense, but that is how things "evolved".
I just finished making the first 146. The final mintage is yet to be determined. I do not plan any proof version.
Mine just shipped !
(The CV 19 medal that is.)
Thanks for the "heads-up"
dont worry he will make more if the money is there !
he will make them next year and next year and the year after AND IN TEN YEARS IF MONEY IS THERE HE WILL MAKE THEM AGAIN !
It's obvious that you are not happy with the way that Dan is doing business. Why do you even bother accessing this thread?
As Leroy Jethro Gibbs would say "Rule 2 - Posts must not contain libelous (accusatory, attacking) remarks concerning any individual, company, or other entity."
If there is a repeat episode next year I might make more then ... with updated debt numbers and a "2021" date.
Edited to add: Regardless, I'd rather there not be any repeat episodes.
BECAUSE BELIEVE ME DONT BELIEVE i SPENT THOUSAND OF DOLLARS ON HIS 1964 DOLLARS PROOF AND DIE 5 AND 6 WE ARE TALKING HE SAID HE HAS NO INTEREST IN MAKING SAME COINS AGAIN YET HE DID 1 I will do WHAT ever I wANT
NO YOU WILL MAKE WANT YOU WANT IT DONT MATTER THE DATE
So it looks like you have a point. You bought something TO MAKE MONEY and it didn't work out for you because more were made. I don't hear any of those lucky people who got the re-issue YELLING and bleeding foul! You'll get over it,
This is an event unlike anything mankind has ever seen before and deserves to be memorialized to be remembered. I hope we are done with it soon but should it resurface next year I think it very appropiate to strike new tokens with the 2021 date.
SO YOU TRUST SOMEBODY AND THY STICK YOU HOW DO DEAL WITH THAT I HOPE THE WORST FOR HIM gov INTERVENTION
DO HAVE TO SAY A RESPONSE CAUSE WE KNOW HOW DELICATE YOU ARE
I@1940coupe said:
I think you would be better off to keep your mouth closed as I don't think this is going to end well for you again.
>
-Please come see me
like i said before you people on here are up DC behind but not the rest of the world i will do what i can cause he lost credit with me
up there
Many people on here know me and I had at one time one of the largest DC collections at one time. I agree with 1940coupe and that is the exact reason I have been selling all of them off. Never lost more money in my life. Not a very wise investment. If your interested I have a pile of DC junk silver.
thank you ! he ruined his self people on can kid their self but his stuff is at bullion value didnt buy it for resale bought for investment someday
Post it on the BST. I've purchased a number fo Dan's pieces on the BST and eBay.
I just got me some more Corona Virus 🦠 ones and I got me a shiped email!!!!!Ohhhhh Boy! Ohhhhh Boy!
If you got any of them confederate ones I would be a buyer?
It seems there was a similar period of disgruntlement exhibited in this very thread in September 2017 (starting on page 39 and for a few pages after that): https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/970119/dan-carrs-latest/p39
The issue at that time related to my selling of certain items in person at the Summer ANA Denver show (some of those items were imaged in this thread by the buyer). For the record, that buyer paid fair market prices for them. But that person had also helped me out quite a bit at my rather large table space that I had at that show.
Anyway, @coupe1940 has not been excluded from obtaining unusual items, such as the double over-struck "1816" bust (see avatar), a recent double-over-struck "1964-D" Peace Die Pair 9, and maybe some others that I don't recall right now.
I bought on ebay didn't get special price like you give people
I think @1940coupe has a great collection. He has an abundance of super-rare double struck pieces. I think he had like 3-4 of the double struck 1816 CBHs before I knew they even existed. I've always been impressed by his collection and focus. I wasn't aware he had any of the regular issue pieces mentioned above based on what he posted in the past, but at least the 1964 proof-like Peace dollars are rare and no more proof-likes have been struck. It's a shame that he's soured on Dan's pieces.
worth nothing cause you can make anything you want
You didn't buy them all on eBay. You got at least one, maybe more, as a "special offer". Note that most of the multi-over-struck pieces that I sold were initially priced not far off what they would probably net on eBay. So it wasn't so much a special price offer. The special offer was a chance to just get one in the first place.