Nice coin. I was interested in the grade and for some reason, its not being found in the PCGS cert verification system...
I forgot about that. That is the old cert number. The grade is a 55, which is ludicrous in my opinion. I bought it as an NGC 61. It is the sharpest looking lion Daalder I have ever seen. It looks much better than those graded P62 or 63. I asked for a regrade and it came back the same. I think the graders are put off by the irregular shape but that is how it left the mint.
I may send it back “across the street” to have it regraded because this grade is just wrong.
I would rather have this than any P62-63 I have ever seen.
(Sorry Hosts, but I am right here.)
Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
Nice coin. I was interested in the grade and for some reason, its not being found in the PCGS cert verification system...
I forgot about that. That is the old cert number. The grade is a 55, which is ludicrous in my opinion. I bought it as an NGC 61. It is the sharpest looking lion Daalder I have ever seen. It looks much better than those graded P62 or 63. I asked for a regrade and it came back the same. I think the graders are put off by the irregular shape but that is how it left the mint.
I may send it back “across the street” to have it regraded because this grade is just wrong.
I would rather have this than any P62-63 I have ever seen.
(Sorry Hosts, but I am right here.)
Nice coin. I was interested in the grade and for some reason, its not being found in the PCGS cert verification system...
I forgot about that. That is the old cert number. The grade is a 55, which is ludicrous in my opinion. I bought it as an NGC 61. It is the sharpest looking lion Daalder I have ever seen. It looks much better than those graded P62 or 63. I asked for a regrade and it came back the same. I think the graders are put off by the irregular shape but that is how it left the mint.
I may send it back “across the street” to have it regraded because this grade is just wrong.
I would rather have this than any P62-63 I have ever seen.
(Sorry Hosts, but I am right here.)
I would take my 63, but to each his own
While my comments were directed at other pieces in general and not at yours specifically, yours seemed to be directed at me and mine. That “to each his own” comment seems completely unnecessary and bordering on rude, but to each his own.
Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
Nice coin. I was interested in the grade and for some reason, its not being found in the PCGS cert verification system...
I forgot about that. That is the old cert number. The grade is a 55, which is ludicrous in my opinion. I bought it as an NGC 61. It is the sharpest looking lion Daalder I have ever seen. It looks much better than those graded P62 or 63. I asked for a regrade and it came back the same. I think the graders are put off by the irregular shape but that is how it left the mint.
I may send it back “across the street” to have it regraded because this grade is just wrong.
I would rather have this than any P62-63 I have ever seen.
(Sorry Hosts, but I am right here.)
I would take my 63, but to each his own
While my comments were directed at other pieces in general and not at yours specifically, yours seemed to be directed at me and mine. That “to each his own” comment seems completely unnecessary and bordering on rude, but to each his own.
You said “ I would rather have this than any P62-63 I have ever seen.” immediately below the post of my coin, which is a 63. I simply responded that I would rather have my 63 in response to your post stating that you find yours superior to any you have seen. You might have been generalizing but your post seems to have originally been directly in response to mine.
Nice coin. I was interested in the grade and for some reason, its not being found in the PCGS cert verification system...
I forgot about that. That is the old cert number. The grade is a 55, which is ludicrous in my opinion. I bought it as an NGC 61. It is the sharpest looking lion Daalder I have ever seen. It looks much better than those graded P62 or 63. I asked for a regrade and it came back the same. I think the graders are put off by the irregular shape but that is how it left the mint.
I may send it back “across the street” to have it regraded because this grade is just wrong.
I would rather have this than any P62-63 I have ever seen.
(Sorry Hosts, but I am right here.)
I would take my 63, but to each his own
While my comments were directed at other pieces in general and not at yours specifically, yours seemed to be directed at me and mine. That “to each his own” comment seems completely unnecessary and bordering on rude, but to each his own.
You said “ I would rather have this than any P62-63 I have ever seen.” immediately below the post of my coin, which is a 63. I simply responded that I would rather have my 63 in response to your post stating that you find yours superior to any you have seen. You might have been generalizing but your post seems to have originally been directly in response to mine.
Nice coin btw
Not at all intended that way.
Peace
Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
Glad everyone is getting along now. Mine is a much more modest 45, but I still love it.
@Yorkshireman - serious question for you or the group, how do you know that the coin left the mint that way vs. being clipped? I get that the quality control on these was garbage. In particular, on my coin and @Boosibri 's there are areas where it looks like the metal just ran out or the planchet was crap. But the straight edges on yours I am not sure how one would tell. When you cracked it out I guess you could see the edges and maybe that yielded a clue?
@Bob13 said:
Glad everyone is getting along now. Mine is a much more modest 45, but I still love it.
@Yorkshireman - serious question for you or the group, how do you know that the coin left the mint that way vs. being clipped? I get that the quality control on these was garbage. In particular, on my coin and @Boosibri 's there are areas where it looks like the metal just ran out or the planchet was crap. But the straight edges on yours I am not sure how one would tell. When you cracked it out I guess you could see the edges and maybe that yielded a clue?
Thanks.
Bob13,
That is a great question. I honestly couldn’t tell you myself. The dealer from whom I bought the coin (John Agre, CRO) told me he thought it had left with mint without being round due to imprecise striking. I suppose this meant hammering.
Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
@Yorkshireman - serious question for you or the group, how do you know that the coin left the mint that way vs. being clipped? I get that the quality control on these was garbage. In particular, on my coin and @Boosibri 's there are areas where it looks like the metal just ran out or the planchet was crap. But the straight edges on yours I am not sure how one would tell. When you cracked it out I guess you could see the edges and maybe that yielded a clue?
Bob13,
That is a great question. I honestly couldn’t tell you myself. The dealer from whom I bought the coin (John Agre, CRO) told me he thought it had left with mint without being round due to imprecise striking. I suppose this meant hammering.
These coins weren't made well; it is not necessary to suspect clipping unless they are underweight (should be around 29 to 30 grams, I believe). Coarse edges are the norm, and both the mint state (or near; not looking to debate this, since most so-called MS62 pieces can also be "AU62" too) pieces have coarse edges that are obfuscated by the border enveloping the coin in the TrueView images. The EF45 coin looks to have smoother edges, but that is likely due to natural usage instead of an intentional act.
All three are nice, so -- congrats on having them!
When it comes to Mexican XIX century coinage every one goes after the 8 reales. But the decimal coinage is super nice. I have never seen one as pretty as this one before. And it is even more beautiful on hand...
Not a newp per se...other than apparently I bought it a few months ago and gave it to Hubs to give me for my birthday. I was surprised . Been super slow taking photos, but finally have these ready to go. Needless to say, the photos are not as good as jeton is in hand.
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Hall in Swabia. Free City Germany 1705 GFN NGC AU55, KM-10
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"Numismatic categorizations, if left unconstrained, will increase spontaneously over time." -me
Try to keep this thread live so post one more. 1895 Japan Yen NGC MS64
BHM #191, 1774. Peter Muilman, eminent Dutch merchant of Kirby Hall, Essex, commissioned this 40th year wedding anniversary medal by Thomas Pingo.
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We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
My current "Box of 20"
Happy Tuesday!
A new one on its way...
Robert the Wise, 1309-1343. AR gigliato (29 mm, 3.88 g, 6 h). King seated on throne with lion head supports / Floreate cross.
"Bob" to his friends.
My current "Box of 20"
Middlesex 389a halfpenny
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Here we go...
I was buying something on a website and spotted this medal...it accidentally fell into my shopping cart.
I was trying to take pictures and realized the PCGS one was up.
We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
On its way to me now.
My current "Box of 20"
Here are a few world toners I picked up recently.
Best toning I have ever seen for the type
Latin American Collection
I’m partial to this one:
One of my favorites from my collection. This coin showed up on ebay as a buy it now and it took me all of 2 seconds to purchase it.
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
Jim Elliot
Nice coin. I was interested in the grade and for some reason, its not being found in the PCGS cert verification system...
I forgot about that. That is the old cert number. The grade is a 55, which is ludicrous in my opinion. I bought it as an NGC 61. It is the sharpest looking lion Daalder I have ever seen. It looks much better than those graded P62 or 63. I asked for a regrade and it came back the same. I think the graders are put off by the irregular shape but that is how it left the mint.
I may send it back “across the street” to have it regraded because this grade is just wrong.
I would rather have this than any P62-63 I have ever seen.
(Sorry Hosts, but I am right here.)
I would take my 63, but to each his own
Latin American Collection
While my comments were directed at other pieces in general and not at yours specifically, yours seemed to be directed at me and mine. That “to each his own” comment seems completely unnecessary and bordering on rude, but to each his own.
Well... I like them both.
8 Reales Madness Collection
Thanks, 2K
MS65
Collecting world gold, German State silver Marks and other things of interest
You said “ I would rather have this than any P62-63 I have ever seen.” immediately below the post of my coin, which is a 63. I simply responded that I would rather have my 63 in response to your post stating that you find yours superior to any you have seen. You might have been generalizing but your post seems to have originally been directly in response to mine.
Nice coin btw
Latin American Collection
Not at all intended that way.
Peace
Glad everyone is getting along now. Mine is a much more modest 45, but I still love it.
@Yorkshireman - serious question for you or the group, how do you know that the coin left the mint that way vs. being clipped? I get that the quality control on these was garbage. In particular, on my coin and @Boosibri 's there are areas where it looks like the metal just ran out or the planchet was crap. But the straight edges on yours I am not sure how one would tell. When you cracked it out I guess you could see the edges and maybe that yielded a clue?
Thanks.
My current "Box of 20"
Bob13,
That is a great question. I honestly couldn’t tell you myself. The dealer from whom I bought the coin (John Agre, CRO) told me he thought it had left with mint without being round due to imprecise striking. I suppose this meant hammering.
These coins weren't made well; it is not necessary to suspect clipping unless they are underweight (should be around 29 to 30 grams, I believe). Coarse edges are the norm, and both the mint state (or near; not looking to debate this, since most so-called MS62 pieces can also be "AU62" too) pieces have coarse edges that are obfuscated by the border enveloping the coin in the TrueView images. The EF45 coin looks to have smoother edges, but that is likely due to natural usage instead of an intentional act.
All three are nice, so -- congrats on having them!
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
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Gobrecht's Engraved Mature Head Large Cent Model
https://www.instagram.com/rexrarities/?hl=en
A day early, but my postings are more hit and miss now.
This is a recent eBay win...and a nice partner for a lovely gotten last summer.
(last summer's purchase that belonged on this thread too)
Centenary of Sunday Schools by Wyon, 1880.
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A couple recent pickups:
Pictures could be better, but you get the gist.
Resurrecting this thread - the coins are beautiful and it distracts me from the news!
My current "Box of 20"
When it comes to Mexican XIX century coinage every one goes after the 8 reales. But the decimal coinage is super nice. I have never seen one as pretty as this one before. And it is even more beautiful on hand...
Not a newp per se...other than apparently I bought it a few months ago and gave it to Hubs to give me for my birthday. I was surprised
. Been super slow taking photos, but finally have these ready to go. Needless to say, the photos are not as good as jeton is in hand.
Latin American Collection
A bit of colour is always nice.
Cnut quatrefoil penny of Crewkerne
Cromwell shilling
Something a bit later. 1790 pattern halfpenny Peck type R44 in silver.
1807 silver proof halfpenny
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Latin American Collection
To the top!
My current "Box of 20"
Great pickup @Bob13
Taler Custom Set
Ancient Custom Set